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Post by thesupremedarkone on Sept 2, 2017 19:49:08 GMT
Why do people haters here act like their feelings are facts ? For example : many people had problem with .... the story I have no problem with the story. Is my feeling irrelevant? Am I an idot fanboy? I understand that people may dislike MEA. What I don't understand is why these people repeat ad libitum their hating in a forum which is supposed to host people who like the game ? Why don't you go to a forum untitled "Andromeda for haters" ... what ... it will not be funny to be between haters because soon you would be a lesser hater than somebody else and would have to defend your lesser hating ? Something something freedom of speech, something something it's a discussion forum!!!1!!! Something something MY OPINION IS RELEVANT!!!!!!!I agree with you 100% but some people just like to feel important I guess. The thing that bothers me the most isn't that the haters are here, but that they like to dress their hate up as a valid argument, ask for counter arguments, then pretty much just resort to " Your opinion is subjective and biased but mine is total fact" Yeah, the defenders have never done that before /s
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Post by river82 on Sept 2, 2017 19:58:27 GMT
I understand that people may dislike MEA. What I don't understand is why these people repeat ad libitum their hating in a forum which is supposed to host people who like the game ? It's a Bioware forum for people who like Bioware games, not an Andromeda forum for people who like Andromeda. Here you will have to share space with Bioware fans that have a different opinion than you on their latest debacle. I mean game
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Post by Arcian on Sept 2, 2017 20:07:39 GMT
Oh, like you're the fucking victim here. How's about you give me $80 and I'll go away. Seeing as that's how much I spent on the god damned game. Until that time, I'll say whatever I damn well please. You're not the victim, hell, you're not even the injured party. You're the person who watched the slow moving train crash and giggled. "Buyer beware. I told you my compound would take you places. I never said they'd be places you wanted to go." - Scarecrow This is less "Why did you buy shit if you didn't want to eat shit?" and more "Why don't you like eating shit? It's delicious!"
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Post by krighaur on Sept 2, 2017 20:18:08 GMT
I understand that people may dislike MEA. What I don't understand is why these people repeat ad libitum their hating in a forum which is supposed to host people who like the game ? It's a Bioware forum for people who like Bioware games, not an Andromeda forum for people who like Andromeda. Here you will have to share space with Bioware fans that have a different opinion than you on their latest debacle. I mean game Oops, I thought my post was in the Andromeda part of the Bioware forum ...
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Post by river82 on Sept 2, 2017 20:20:08 GMT
It's a Bioware forum for people who like Bioware games, not an Andromeda forum for people who like Andromeda. Here you will have to share space with Bioware fans that have a different opinion than you on their latest debacle. I mean game Oops, I thought my post was in the Andromeda part of the Bioware forum ... It is, and that section is meant for Bioware fans and Mass Effect fans to discuss the newest game. You're idea that this forum is only meant for Andromeda fans is wrong.
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Post by FluffyCannibal on Sept 2, 2017 20:41:44 GMT
Oops, I thought my post was in the Andromeda part of the Bioware forum ... It is, and that section is meant for Bioware fans and Mass Effect fans to discuss the newest game. You're idea that this forum is only meant for Andromeda fans is wrong. Let's put this another way: If a group of people hate something so much, why do they go out of their way to find a forum dedicated to that very thing, and proceed to spend months bitching about how bad it is despite the fact that that's incredibly unlikely to ever change anything, as opposed to say, finding something that they prefer instead?
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Post by FluffyCannibal on Sept 2, 2017 20:42:32 GMT
Something something freedom of speech, something something it's a discussion forum!!!1!!! Something something MY OPINION IS RELEVANT!!!!!!!I agree with you 100% but some people just like to feel important I guess. The thing that bothers me the most isn't that the haters are here, but that they like to dress their hate up as a valid argument, ask for counter arguments, then pretty much just resort to " Your opinion is subjective and biased but mine is total fact" Yeah, the defenders have never done that before /s "The defenders" don't ask subjective questions then expect non-subjective answers.
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Post by river82 on Sept 2, 2017 20:46:08 GMT
It is, and that section is meant for Bioware fans and Mass Effect fans to discuss the newest game. You're idea that this forum is only meant for Andromeda fans is wrong. If a group of people hate something so much, why do they go out of their way to find a forum dedicated to that very thing, Because Bioware closed the old forums down and nobody goes to RPGCodex anymore. Also nothing exists in a vacuum. Andromeda doesn't exist in a vacuum. Discussions always have context and maybe fans of Bioware and Mass Effect want to have discussions relating to Andromeda and why they were disappointed with Andromeda relative to old Bioware and the Mass Effect trilogy. And a Bioware forum is perfect for that.
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Post by river82 on Sept 2, 2017 20:54:39 GMT
I would offer a tentative suggestion (I don't go there) of Reddit for people who only want to hear positive things about the game. The ability to downvote opinions you don't like until they're out of sight sounds to me like a desirable environment for those who want to be surrounded by only a specific type of opinion.
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Post by krighaur on Sept 2, 2017 20:58:42 GMT
I would offer a tentative suggestion (I don't go there) of Reddit for people who only want to hear positive things about the game. The ability to downvote opinions you don't like until they're out of sight sounds to me like a desirable environment for those who want to be surrounded by only a specific type of opinion. Most funny thing I read : If you like Andromeda, don't post in a Bioware forum but rather go in another forum
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Post by FluffyCannibal on Sept 2, 2017 20:59:47 GMT
If a group of people hate something so much, why do they go out of their way to find a forum dedicated to that very thing, Because Bioware closed the old forums down and nobody goes to RPGCodex anymore. Also nothing exists in a vacuum. Andromeda doesn't exist in a vacuum. Discussions always have context and maybe fans of Bioware and Mass Effect want to have discussions relating to Andromeda and why they were disappointed with Andromeda relative to old Bioware and the Mass Effect trilogy. And a Bioware forum is perfect for that. Way to answer half a question; that's not what I asked and either your reading comprehension sucks, or you knew that.
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Post by river82 on Sept 2, 2017 21:08:02 GMT
I would offer a tentative suggestion (I don't go there) of Reddit for people who only want to hear positive things about the game. The ability to downvote opinions you don't like until they're out of sight sounds to me like a desirable environment for those who want to be surrounded by only a specific type of opinion. Most funny thing I read : If you like Andromeda, don't post in a Bioware forum but rather go in another forum You're not looking for a Bioware forum, you're looking for a forum full of Andromeda fans. You've made this perfectly clear, so maybe a Bioware forum isn't for you.
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Post by river82 on Sept 2, 2017 21:12:59 GMT
Because Bioware closed the old forums down and nobody goes to RPGCodex anymore. Also nothing exists in a vacuum. Andromeda doesn't exist in a vacuum. Discussions always have context and maybe fans of Bioware and Mass Effect want to have discussions relating to Andromeda and why they were disappointed with Andromeda relative to old Bioware and the Mass Effect trilogy. And a Bioware forum is perfect for that. Way to answer half a question; that's not what I asked and either your reading comprehension sucks, or you knew that. Your question is boring, but I'll answer it. Because people don't only talk about things they like but funnily enough also talk about things they don't like. Your assumption that users aren't already on other forums for "products they prefer instead" is laughable, because people can talk about more than one thing at once.
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Post by FluffyCannibal on Sept 2, 2017 21:51:38 GMT
Way to answer half a question; that's not what I asked and either your reading comprehension sucks, or you knew that. Your question is boring, but I'll answer it. Because people don't only talk about things they like but funnily enough also talk about things they don't like. Your assumption that users aren't already on other forums for "products they prefer instead" is laughable, because people can talk about more than one thing at once.
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Post by FluffyCannibal on Sept 2, 2017 21:53:57 GMT
Most funny thing I read : If you like Andromeda, don't post in a Bioware forum but rather go in another forum You're not looking for a Bioware forum, you're looking for a forum full of Andromeda fans. You've made this perfectly clear, so maybe a Bioware forum isn't for you. You mean, like an Andromeda discussion board? I wonder where one would find such a thing.
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Post by river82 on Sept 2, 2017 21:59:11 GMT
You're not looking for a Bioware forum, you're looking for a forum full of Andromeda fans. You've made this perfectly clear, so maybe a Bioware forum isn't for you. You mean, like an Andromeda discussion board? This one's made for Bioware fans. Alas it sounds like he's looking for an Andromeda board strictly for Andromeda fans. Like I said above, maybe Reddit?
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Post by Qolx on Sept 2, 2017 22:14:19 GMT
Friendly reminder: the Mass Effect Andromeda Positivity Thread and other numerous Andromeda-positive posts are open and awaiting updates. Great places for people easily triggered by random, minor inconveniences such as voluntarily clicking on and continuously commenting in a criticism thread.
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Post by maximusarael020 on Sept 2, 2017 22:51:36 GMT
Friendly reminder: the Mass Effect Andromeda Positivity Thread and other numerous Andromeda-positive posts are open and awaiting updates. Great places for people easily triggered by random, minor inconveniences such as voluntarily clicking on and continuously commenting in a criticism thread. The unfortunate thing is this is not an "Andromeda criticism thread". This is an "Andromeda FAN criticism thread". And when you diss us on our own turf... We ain't afraid to throw down, Homes. To expect those the thread is calling out not to respond is asinine.
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Post by antmarch456 on Sept 2, 2017 22:53:31 GMT
This thread is a prime of example of how NOT to follow a very helpful advice... Agree to disagree
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Post by suikoden on Sept 2, 2017 23:24:59 GMT
You're not looking for a Bioware forum, you're looking for a forum full of Andromeda fans. You've made this perfectly clear, so maybe a Bioware forum isn't for you. You mean, like an Andromeda discussion board? I wonder where one would find such a thing. You realize it's fully possible for Mass Effect fans to think that Andromeda is a piece of shit, right?
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Post by Steelcan on Sept 3, 2017 1:22:58 GMT
This thread is a prime of example of how NOT to follow a very helpful advice... Agree to disagree if everyone agreed to disagree, we'd just have a forum full of no one saying anything, and the Drinkquisition thread
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Post by smilesja on Sept 3, 2017 1:26:57 GMT
This thread is a prime of example of how NOT to follow a very helpful advice... Agree to disagree if everyone agreed to disagree, we'd just have a forum full of no one saying anything, and the Drinkquisition threadWouldn't mind that.
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Post by Steelcan on Sept 3, 2017 1:33:47 GMT
if everyone agreed to disagree, we'd just have a forum full of no one saying anything, and the Drinkquisition threadWouldn't mind that. well the thread is always open
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Post by majesticjazz on Sept 3, 2017 1:55:07 GMT
Agreed 100%. Andromeda had a lot of issues that latches simply can not fix, and you named all of them. Overall the game simply was mediocre from top to bottom. The animations were just what haters latched onto, but they were just the tip of the iceberg. But what's being argued here in this thread is that story and characters are subjective while the bugs and animations are more objective. No, that isn't what is being argued here in this thread. What is being argued (at least my initial argument/question) was why do come people assume that the only problem with MEA was the animations/bugs and that if MEA launched in the 1.10 state, then it would have not been criticised. I laid out what is generally seen by many as non-animation/bug MEA problems and what happened was many people here countered my OP by trying to dismiss the list as subjective. So really, the thread was derailed by people defending MEA and bringing up the subjective/objective argument when that isn't what the OP is about. The OP is about animations/bugs being seen as the ONLY problem to MEA when in fact there were many other issues that many gamers had with MEA.
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Post by maximusarael020 on Sept 3, 2017 2:00:38 GMT
But what's being argued here in this thread is that story and characters are subjective while the bugs and animations are more objective. No, that isn't what is being argued here in this thread. What is being argued (at least my initial argument/question) was why do come people assume that the only problem with MEA was the animations/bugs and that if MEA launched in the 1.10 state, then it would have not been criticised. I laid out what is generally seen by many as non-animation/bug MEA problems and what happened was many people here countered my OP by trying to dismiss the list as subjective. So really, the thread was derailed by people defending MEA and bringing up the subjective/objective argument when that isn't what the OP is about. The OP is about animations/bugs being seen as the ONLY problem to MEA when in fact there were many other issues that many gamers had with MEA. Perhaps the thread was derailed because no one on the forums think that animations and glitches were the only issue and that a v1.10 launch would have zero criticisms. For sure that it would have had LESS criticism, but not none. If anyone does think that launch v1.10 would have had no criticisms, please speak now, for I have seen no evidence you exist.
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