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Post by alanc9 on Aug 31, 2017 17:25:19 GMT
It's been a very long time since I played an HN. Does the PC even know that Howe and Loghain are in cahoots? The player sees the cutscenes, but the PC doesn't.
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Post by phoray on Aug 31, 2017 17:27:29 GMT
Congrats, you're accepting any shit BioWare sells you. You're incorrectly assuming I was an uninformed consumer that is simply trying to defend their purchase. I tried the trial. Waited 4 months. Watched SIX HOURS of YouTube of the game. then purchased it. I accepted nothing. I wanted what I got. I also have not bought Jade Empire, KOTOR, SWOTOR, NWN, or baldura gate. So definitely NOT accepting "any shit" Bioware makes. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2017 17:27:36 GMT
Sure the Darkspawn were the main enemy. They were the only reason Howe had an opportunity to sack Highever castle, and the only reason Loghain was able to assume position of Regent. Beyond a couple of unsuccessful attempts by people seeking bounties or the elven slave deal in the alienage (some of which was Howe's doing), Loghain himself didn't do much to get in the Warden's way. Ser Cauthrien and her men was his most powerful hand to play. Darkspawn were the fodder enemy, they were not the main enemy. The horde were fodder; the archdemon was the primary enemy target. Most of Ferelden's forces were decimated at Ostagar, so the Warden needed to invoke the treaties to raise armies against the spawn. Could they have defeated the spawn at Ostagar if Loghain hadn't turned tail? Doubtful. We saw only the horde at Ostagar; the archdemon did not appear until later. That only prevented you from access to Eamon's armies, and I believe if Eamon had died, you could have worked with Bann Teagan instead. Loghain had nothing to do with the problems you had to solve at the mage tower, dalish camp, or Orzammar. Uh... no. Duncan recruited you in the origin story, none of which really involve Loghain. (You can argue that Howe was in cahoots with Loghain on the Cousland coup, but that's debatable. And Duncan was at Highever to recruit someone, irrespective of Howe's treachery.) You drank the kool-aide prior to the battle of Ostagar, and were a fully-fledged Warden when it occurred. Well - defeating the spawn was your primary goal, but you needed to raise armies to do that. Each faction (mages, elves, dwarves, Eamon) presented a different problem you needed to solve in order to gain their help in the battle to defeat the archdemon. Not all that different, really, from the hoops Shepard jumped through to gain assets and unite the galaxy against the reapers - while fighting reaper hordes and with Cerberus trying to thwart her efforts. Loghain was a great antagonist, to be sure, but so was TIM. Both had reasons they believed valid to try to stop you. |
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Post by smilesja on Aug 31, 2017 17:29:29 GMT
Congrats, you're accepting any shit BioWare sells you. You're incorrectly assuming I was an uninformed consumer that is simply trying to defend their purchase. I tried the trial. Waited 4 months. Watched SIX HOURS of YouTube of the game. then purchased it. I accepted nothing. I wanted what I got. I also have not bought Jade Empire, KOTOR, SWOTOR, NWN, or baldura gate. So definitely NOT accepting "any shit" Bioware makes. You don't need to prove yourself to him phoray. He's trying to rile you up. |
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Post by smilesja on Aug 31, 2017 17:30:17 GMT
- Story-- There were several plots going on at once. Can you be more specific? - Uninteresting characters: Kallo was excellent The drack/Kesh dynamic was interesting, Jaal was interesting (outside of cutscenes), but yeah, they seemed to be "themed" characters rather than people. I agree.
- Dull open world- Open Worlds can only be so interesting in a video game. Have you tried looking outside your window lately? - Bad side quest design-- Can you be more specific? I found that I actually wanted to do most of them, especially on Voeld. - Cant control squadmates combat abilities-- Maybe Bioware watched players like me NEVER control their abilties in the first place. Programable AI of DAO and DA2 is as much controlling as I ever want to do- Micromanage ONCE and forget it. And sadly, it's gone forever.
- Ryder not as interesting/couldnt roleplay: Agree about lack of role play. On the fence about "not as interesting." I could agree with "not as badass." - Villain -- I totally hated the Archon. What was wrong with the villain? I wanted to smash him. Isn't that the Villain's job? Job accomplished.
- Over use of jokes/humor in serious situations: I can only think of 2-3 times where there was inappropriate hilarity. I think at least one of them was optional.
The Asari clone army- I could not give a fuck about this. I was more annoyed by another human having my hairstyle than I ever will be about Asari's looking alike. Or the fact that all of the Turian's look either bone white or someone had vomited green bile all over them. Salarian's and most Krogan looked alike too, but there is little or no urge to fuck them, so people aren't looking as closely.
- Only 2 Andromeda races vs 5 MW races. - Yeah, I missed me some Drell and Quarians, but we got an entire new race from scratch (technically, new engine, EVERYTHING was from scratch) I ENJOYED MYSELF. I did not expect an epic sonnet, poetry, something life changing. RYDER IS NOT SHEPARD. And the sooner you stop expecting her/him to be Shepard, the sooner you can pluck out the silver linings of a solid game. *drops mic* Congrats, you're accepting any shit BioWare sells you. You don't know how she came to like ME: A. |
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Post by alanc9 on Aug 31, 2017 17:42:16 GMT
Congrats, you're accepting any shit BioWare sells you. You're incorrectly assuming I was an uninformed consumer that is simply trying to defend their purchase. I tried the trial. Waited 4 months. Watched SIX HOURS of YouTube of the game. then purchased it. I accepted nothing. I wanted what I got. I also have not bought Jade Empire, KOTOR, SWOTOR, NWN, or baldura gate. So definitely NOT accepting "any shit" Bioware makes. You might want to look into the older stuff. KotOR at least. Dunno about BG2 and NWN. |
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Post by phoray on Aug 31, 2017 17:45:07 GMT
You're incorrectly assuming I was an uninformed consumer that is simply trying to defend their purchase. I tried the trial. Waited 4 months. Watched SIX HOURS of YouTube of the game. then purchased it. I accepted nothing. I wanted what I got. I also have not bought Jade Empire, KOTOR, SWOTOR, NWN, or baldura gate. So definitely NOT accepting "any shit" Bioware makes. You might want to look into the older stuff. KotOR at least. Dunno about BG2 and NWN. I have to play games with a controller due to the horrible pain I get otherwise. So unless it's got a controller mod, no dice. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2017 17:52:45 GMT
It's been a very long time since I played an HN. Does the PC even know that Howe and Loghain are in cahoots? The player sees the cutscenes, but the PC doesn't. I don't think so, not unless s/he somehow infers it. They also left the extent of the Loghain/Howe collusion to the viewer, imho. We didn't see them plotting until after Ostagar, so Howe's coup on the Couslands may have been without Loghain's prior knowledge, ditto Loghain turning tail at Ostagar. I think it's also subject to viewer interpretation whether Loghain initially planned to leave Cailan high & dry - he did try to talk Cailan out of riding with the Wardens after all, and it seems like he ended up taking Plan B. Whether that ultimately cost them a victory (and a King) at Ostagar or saved armies that would have otherwise been slaughtered is also subject to interpretation. |
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Post by goishen on Aug 31, 2017 18:06:42 GMT
I suppose it's true that some people will still enjoy The Cat In The Hat like it is high literature. I just wish they would go over there. Oh yeh, I'm already over there. Where all the Castle, NCIS, and every fucking movie made by that Arnold Scharzenegger guy go.
It is what it is. You're employing logic. Logic has no place here. Sure. I'd love to see, "My Adventures Into Mass Effect : Andromeda" thesis paper. Just to see what kind'a backflips and contortionist they would have to be at the end of that thesis if they ended up liking it. Here's a rock. Have fun with it, and just remember to use your imagination. Because fun is all subjective.
So, here's your rock, all of you ADF (Andromeda Defender's Formation). Because all fun is subjective.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2017 18:07:23 GMT
The Reapers and the Darkspawn are one of the main enemies of the game and is the reason why the protagonist are driven to action. This is actually another problem with DA:O. Why does the Blight drive the protagonist to action? A Dalish Elf could reasonably believe that this just isn't his problem -- in fact, his clan escapes the Blight handily -- and for a dwarf, fighting darkspawn is Tuesday. While all three backgrounds give the PC a plausible reason to utilize Warden status instrumentally -- it's the best shot a dwarf commoner has at real power, for instance -- it's not at all obvious why many PCs would care about the whole business. ME can't have such issues because Shepard and Ryder have already made those choices before the game starts. Apparently, all of the factions considered a blight to be a problem they needed to help solve, since they'd signed those treaties. Some might be able to escape the blight's impact for a time, but eventually the taint renders more and more of the land unusable, which would impact everyone. |
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Post by kotoreffect3 on Aug 31, 2017 18:19:35 GMT
I suppose it's true that some people will still enjoy The Cat In The Hat like it is high literature. I just wish they would go over there. Oh yeh, I'm already over there. Where all the Castle, NCIS, and every fucking movie made by that Arnold Scharzenegger guy go. It is what it is. You're employing logic. Logic has no place here. Sure. I'd love to see, "My Adventures Into Mass Effect : Andromeda" thesis paper. Just to see what kind'a backflips and contortionist they would have to be at the end of that thesis if they ended up liking it. Here's a rock. Have fun with it, and just remember to use your imagination. Because fun is all subjective. So, here's your rock, all of you ADF (Andromeda Defender's Formation). Because all fun is subjective. So how is the air up there on that high and objective horse of yours? |
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Post by goishen on Aug 31, 2017 18:33:36 GMT
I dunno, are you an adult? I'm asking here, because I really have no idea.
If so, then you should know. If not, then you've got a hard smack on the nose coming for you.
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Post by colfoley on Aug 31, 2017 18:51:29 GMT
- Story-- There were several plots going on at once. Can you be more specific? - Uninteresting characters: Kallo was excellent The drack/Kesh dynamic was interesting, Jaal was interesting (outside of cutscenes), but yeah, they seemed to be "themed" characters rather than people. I agree.
- Dull open world- Open Worlds can only be so interesting in a video game. Have you tried looking outside your window lately? - Bad side quest design-- Can you be more specific? I found that I actually wanted to do most of them, especially on Voeld. - Cant control squadmates combat abilities-- Maybe Bioware watched players like me NEVER control their abilties in the first place. Programable AI of DAO and DA2 is as much controlling as I ever want to do- Micromanage ONCE and forget it. And sadly, it's gone forever.
- Ryder not as interesting/couldnt roleplay: Agree about lack of role play. On the fence about "not as interesting." I could agree with "not as badass." - Villain -- I totally hated the Archon. What was wrong with the villain? I wanted to smash him. Isn't that the Villain's job? Job accomplished.
- Over use of jokes/humor in serious situations: I can only think of 2-3 times where there was inappropriate hilarity. I think at least one of them was optional.
The Asari clone army- I could not give a fuck about this. I was more annoyed by another human having my hairstyle than I ever will be about Asari's looking alike. Or the fact that all of the Turian's look either bone white or someone had vomited green bile all over them. Salarian's and most Krogan looked alike too, but there is little or no urge to fuck them, so people aren't looking as closely.
- Only 2 Andromeda races vs 5 MW races. - Yeah, I missed me some Drell and Quarians, but we got an entire new race from scratch (technically, new engine, EVERYTHING was from scratch) I ENJOYED MYSELF. I did not expect an epic sonnet, poetry, something life changing. RYDER IS NOT SHEPARD. And the sooner you stop expecting her/him to be Shepard, the sooner you can pluck out the silver linings of a solid game. *drops mic* Congrats, you're accepting any shit BioWare sells you. for shame Andrew. |
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Post by cypherj on Aug 31, 2017 19:01:33 GMT
Darkspawn were the fodder enemy, they were not the main enemy. The horde were fodder; the archdemon was the primary enemy target. Most of Ferelden's forces were decimated at Ostagar, so the Warden needed to invoke the treaties to raise armies against the spawn. Could they have defeated the spawn at Ostagar if Loghain hadn't turned tail? Doubtful. We saw only the horde at Ostagar; the archdemon did not appear until later. That only prevented you from access to Eamon's armies, and I believe if Eamon had died, you could have worked with Bann Teagan instead. Loghain had nothing to do with the problems you had to solve at the mage tower, dalish camp, or Orzammar. Uh... no. Duncan recruited you in the origin story, none of which really involve Loghain. (You can argue that Howe was in cahoots with Loghain on the Cousland coup, but that's debatable. And Duncan was at Highever to recruit someone, irrespective of Howe's treachery.) You drank the kool-aide prior to the battle of Ostagar, and were a fully-fledged Warden when it occurred. Well - defeating the spawn was your primary goal, but you needed to raise armies to do that. Each faction (mages, elves, dwarves, Eamon) presented a different problem you needed to solve in order to gain their help in the battle to defeat the archdemon. Not all that different, really, from the hoops Shepard jumped through to gain assets and unite the galaxy against the reapers - while fighting reaper hordes and with Cerberus trying to thwart her efforts. Loghain was a great antagonist, to be sure, but so was TIM. Both had reasons they believed valid to try to stop you. I'm going off the assumption that they were working together, and if that doesn't occur, the person that Duncan actually came to see would be the Warden, or your brother, but not you. You're the Warden based directly off the events that transpired. Also, I listed the Archdemon as the antagonist in my first post. You would never have gone to the Urn of sacred ashes had Eamon not been poisoned. |
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Post by cypherj on Aug 31, 2017 19:02:38 GMT
Not it's not. Sovereign was in control of everything, controlling Saren, and Saren was controlling the Geth. Reapers were behind the Collectors. Reapers ultimately assimilated races and used them against your in the last game. They were in charge from the start. Reapers were pulling all the strings from before the OT even started. What strings were Darkspawn pulling, what specific things did they during the game to obstruct you other than mindlessly attacking you. Saying Darkspawn were the main enemy in DA is like saying Orcs were the main enemy in LOTR ahead of Sauron and Sauraman. Thing is, Loghain doesn't drive the story forward like, say, the Reapers, the Darkspawn or Sauron do, the last of which is actually the source of the entire conflict to begin with. Granted, he makes the overall journey more interesting, as does Howe, but if you removed him from the equation, the primary conflict would be largely the same. The faction gathering portion of the game doesn't even involve him, since the civil war (which we really see little of in our travels) is of no concern to the mages/Templars, the dalish or the Orzammar dwarves. This goes back to my last point, then are Orcs the main enemy in LOTR. You can make an argument for the Archdemon like I said in my original post, but the Darkspawn, no. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2017 20:04:48 GMT
I'm going off the assumption that they were working together, and if that doesn't occur, the person that Duncan actually came to see would be the Warden, or your brother, but not you. You're the Warden based directly off the events that transpired. I'm not sure what you're trying to say here. Duncan was the only Warden at Highever at the time, and he was there to recruit. IIRC, there's an assumption that he intended to recruit Ser Gilmore, but ended up with the younger Cousland due to events. But that's only one possible origin; even if you assume Loghain was behind Howe's coup, he still has no involvement in any of the other origin stories. Getting back to this statement: You have a point that the darkspawn hordes were not the main enemy; their archdemon was. Killing all of the darkspawn was not the Warden's goal - there were always some roaming mostly the deep roads, sometimes the surface. Thinning them out to mitigate the effects of the taint was part of defeating the blight, however. Loghain put up obstacles much like Udina, The Council, and Cerberus did to Shepard. That qualifies them as antagonists for parts of the story, but they were allies at other times. That includes Loghain, who could be recruited as a fellow Warden. |
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Post by vonuber on Aug 31, 2017 20:16:52 GMT
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Post by cypherj on Aug 31, 2017 20:19:04 GMT
I'm going off the assumption that they were working together, and if that doesn't occur, the person that Duncan actually came to see would be the Warden, or your brother, but not you. You're the Warden based directly off the events that transpired. I'm not sure what you're trying to say here. Duncan was the only Warden at Highever at the time, and he was there to recruit. IIRC, there's an assumption that he intended to recruit Ser Gilmore, but ended up with the younger Cousland due to events. But that's only one possible origin; even if you assume Loghain was behind Howe's coup, he still has no involvement in any of the other origin stories. Getting back to this statement: You have a point that the darkspawn hordes were not the main enemy; their archdemon was. Killing all of the darkspawn was not the Warden's goal - there were always some roaming mostly the deep roads, sometimes the surface. Thinning them out to mitigate the effects of the taint was part of defeating the blight, however. Loghain put up obstacles much like Udina, The Council, and Cerberus did to Shepard. That qualifies them as antagonists for parts of the story, but they were allies at other times. That includes Loghain, who could be recruited as a fellow Warden. That's what I was saying. Duncan wasn't their for you originally. But this whole Darkspawn thing has gotten me off my original point lol. My Original point was that you had enemies in other games that were built up as something to fear, something that you needed help to defeat, whether it be the reapers, the Archdemon, even the collectors. Then these antagonists were allowed to the keep that air of superiority because you didn't constantly defeat them all game, you killed darkspawn, Geth, mercs, etc as the fodder. ME:A didn't have this. The Archon or the Kett were never built up to be anything to be feared even though they were supposed to have this vast empire. They need to give you some setbacks, maybe do the first scene different where this new race shows up, advanced tech, overruns you, your dad dies while covering your escape. NOW, the Kett have set the tone for themselves, and you're not is such a small number just dominating them all game until the end. |
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Post by smilesja on Aug 31, 2017 20:21:52 GMT
Couldn't agree more with the OP. Many fanboys and Bioware shills, still believe the game didn't do well because of the outrage from fans. How about because maybe the game just isn't good? Admittedly, the game isn't terrible, a 6/10 on its best day, but those aren't the standards Bioware and AAA developers go for. So in those regards it's deemed as a failure. There just isn't a whole lot to talk about in Andromeda, nothing stands out but the combat, which in itself is flawed. Weak story, characters, villain, and setting, make this arguably one of the worst, if not, the worst game Bioware has ever done. It's far from the worst Bioware game. |
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Post by Guts on Aug 31, 2017 20:34:54 GMT
Couldn't agree more with the OP. Many fanboys and Bioware shills, still believe the game didn't do well because of the outrage from fans. How about because maybe the game just isn't good? Admittedly, the game isn't terrible, a 6/10 on its best day, but those aren't the standards Bioware and AAA developers go for. So in those regards it's deemed as a failure. There just isn't a whole lot to talk about in Andromeda, nothing stands out but the combat, which in itself is flawed. Weak story, characters, villain, and setting, make this arguably one of the worst, if not, the worst game Bioware has ever done. It's far from the worst Bioware game. Well, how one views Andromeda is subjective, by this I mean either you're going to like it, think it's just ok, or you're going to flat out dislike it. It seems like it's tied with their Sonic game in terms of reception from critics. (Slightly lower in fact) Also considering this thread seems like its going to get nasty. FIREARMS THREAD TIME(I know this shit is off-topic, but talking about firearms is ironically more peaceful than talking about how bad the game is for some people) |
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Post by phoray on Aug 31, 2017 20:42:10 GMT
I suppose it's true that some people will still enjoy The Cat In The Hat like it is high literature. I just wish they would go over there. Oh yeh, I'm already over there. Where all the Castle, NCIS, and every fucking movie made by that Arnold Scharzenegger guy go. It is what it is. You're employing logic. Logic has no place here. Sure. I'd love to see, "My Adventures Into Mass Effect : Andromeda" thesis paper. Just to see what kind'a backflips and contortionist they would have to be at the end of that thesis if they ended up liking it. Here's a rock. Have fun with it, and just remember to use your imagination. Because fun is all subjective. So, here's your rock, all of you ADF (Andromeda Defender's Formation). Because all fun is subjective. Why are you so gosh darn upset and surprised to find FANS on a FAN FORUM run by FANS? Take your logic rock and apply it liberally to your fine self. |
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Post by smilesja on Aug 31, 2017 20:43:31 GMT
I suppose it's true that some people will still enjoy The Cat In The Hat like it is high literature. I just wish they would go over there. Oh yeh, I'm already over there. Where all the Castle, NCIS, and every fucking movie made by that Arnold Scharzenegger guy go. It is what it is. You're employing logic. Logic has no place here. Sure. I'd love to see, "My Adventures Into Mass Effect : Andromeda" thesis paper. Just to see what kind'a backflips and contortionist they would have to be at the end of that thesis if they ended up liking it. Here's a rock. Have fun with it, and just remember to use your imagination. Because fun is all subjective. So, here's your rock, all of you ADF (Andromeda Defender's Formation). Because all fun is subjective. Why are you so gosh darn upset and surprised to find FANS on a FAN FORUM run by FANS? Take your logic rock and apply it liberally to your fine self. This entire thread has been generalizing people who like ME: A. |
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Post by alanc9 on Aug 31, 2017 20:49:05 GMT
You might want to look into the older stuff. KotOR at least. Dunno about BG2 and NWN. I have to play games with a controller due to the horrible pain I get otherwise. So unless it's got a controller mod, no dice. That leaves out NWN and BG2, I think. KotOR was console-native, and I'm pretty sure there are console mods around for it. |
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Post by alanc9 on Aug 31, 2017 20:50:38 GMT
I'm not sure what you're trying to say here. Duncan was the only Warden at Highever at the time, and he was there to recruit. IIRC, there's an assumption that he intended to recruit Ser Gilmore, but ended up with the younger Cousland due to events. But that's only one possible origin; even if you assume Loghain was behind Howe's coup, he still has no involvement in any of the other origin stories. Getting back to this statement: You have a point that the darkspawn hordes were not the main enemy; their archdemon was. Killing all of the darkspawn was not the Warden's goal - there were always some roaming mostly the deep roads, sometimes the surface. Thinning them out to mitigate the effects of the taint was part of defeating the blight, however. Loghain put up obstacles much like Udina, The Council, and Cerberus did to Shepard. That qualifies them as antagonists for parts of the story, but they were allies at other times. That includes Loghain, who could be recruited as a fellow Warden. That's what I was saying. Duncan wasn't their for you originally. But this whole Darkspawn thing has gotten me off my original point lol. My Original point was that you had enemies in other games that were built up as something to fear, something that you needed help to defeat, whether it be the reapers, the Archdemon, even the collectors. Then these antagonists were allowed to the keep that air of superiority because you didn't constantly defeat them all game, you killed darkspawn, Geth, mercs, etc as the fodder. ME:A didn't have this. The Archon or the Kett were never built up to be anything to be feared even though they were supposed to have this vast empire. They need to give you some setbacks, maybe do the first scene different where this new race shows up, advanced tech, overruns you, your dad dies while covering your escape. NOW, the Kett have set the tone for themselves, and you're not is such a small number just dominating them all game until the end. This is actually similar to the standard knock on the way ME2 handled Harbinger. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2017 21:03:10 GMT
I'm not sure what you're trying to say here. Duncan was the only Warden at Highever at the time, and he was there to recruit. IIRC, there's an assumption that he intended to recruit Ser Gilmore, but ended up with the younger Cousland due to events. But that's only one possible origin; even if you assume Loghain was behind Howe's coup, he still has no involvement in any of the other origin stories. Getting back to this statement: You have a point that the darkspawn hordes were not the main enemy; their archdemon was. Killing all of the darkspawn was not the Warden's goal - there were always some roaming mostly the deep roads, sometimes the surface. Thinning them out to mitigate the effects of the taint was part of defeating the blight, however. Loghain put up obstacles much like Udina, The Council, and Cerberus did to Shepard. That qualifies them as antagonists for parts of the story, but they were allies at other times. That includes Loghain, who could be recruited as a fellow Warden. That's what I was saying. Duncan wasn't their for you originally. But this whole Darkspawn thing has gotten me off my original point lol. My Original point was that you had enemies in other games that were built up as something to fear, something that you needed help to defeat, whether it be the reapers, the Archdemon, even the collectors. Then these antagonists were allowed to the keep that air of superiority because you didn't constantly defeat them all game, you killed darkspawn, Geth, mercs, etc as the fodder. ME:A didn't have this. The Archon or the Kett were never built up to be anything to be feared even though they were supposed to have this vast empire. They need to give you some setbacks, maybe do the first scene different where this new race shows up, advanced tech, overruns you, your dad dies while covering your escape. NOW, the Kett have set the tone for themselves, and you're not is such a small number just dominating them all game until the end. Well - the Archon & kett might not have been presented as some world-ending threat, but I'm not sure they were intended or needed to be. They didn't even present a united front; there was friction between the Primus and the Archon. MEA spun multiple yarns with multiple threads/threats into a tapestry instead of some single-threaded trek to victory over some enemy. Remember, the first "enemy" you encountered on the Hyperion was the scourge and what had become of the expected golden worlds. The next "enemy" came from within - the whole Nexus Uprising and the way it fractured the Ai and created the exiles. One of Ryder's challenges was to get to know the angarans and bring them to ally status. Another was to find and free the missing Arks. Ryder was also able to help stabilize places like Kadara and Eladaan, terraform worlds, and establish multiple outposts. Ryder is a Pathfinder trying to help humanity (and the other milkies) establish a home in Andromeda, not a military commander with a singular purpose of defeating some defined enemy. Even so, I found the final assault on Meridian to be one of the best, most satisfying end-game battles I've ever played. So many unexpected allies showing up to help - major kudos for that. |
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