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Post by 10k on Sept 25, 2017 3:56:09 GMT
I'd like anything that would bring back Shepard and his crew as the main protagonists.
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Post by alanc9 on Sept 25, 2017 4:12:07 GMT
Ick. Pass.
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Post by mushroomtagger on Sept 25, 2017 5:30:20 GMT
The Ryder family and also the characters in Andromeda isn't bad. They all have their own strengths and they are worth revisiting. The problem is the amount of fetch quests in the game. Huge planets but not enough meaningful content.
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Post by General Mahad on Sept 25, 2017 19:24:19 GMT
A Mass Effect game in a galaxy that's less than 1% explored.
But I'll come up with a compromise, Andromeda 2 without the idiots of the Tempest minus Drack.
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Post by griffith82 on Sept 25, 2017 19:58:04 GMT
I'd like anything that would bring back Shepard and his crew as the main protagonists. How about no.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2017 20:03:19 GMT
I'd like anything that would bring back Shepard and his crew as the main protagonists. How about no. IMOLet me fix that for you since well... ...you know.
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Post by colfoley on Sept 25, 2017 21:06:38 GMT
I'd like anything that would bring back Shepard and his crew as the main protagonists. Andrastae's ass I think I just vomited in my mouth a little.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2017 21:23:28 GMT
I'd like anything that would bring back Shepard and his crew as the main protagonists. Andrastae's ass I think I just vomited in my mouth a little. I honestly wonder if you were this critical of Shepard throughout the series before ME:A. I'm willing to bet you weren't.
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Post by Serza on Sept 25, 2017 21:26:13 GMT
We have another.
Yet another poor soul who doesn't understand when a story is concluded.
My, my... I thought most people were aware of the fact that you can only make so many stories with certain characters before they stop being worthwhile.
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Post by colfoley on Sept 25, 2017 21:42:44 GMT
Andrastae's ass I think I just vomited in my mouth a little. I honestly wonder if you were this critical of Shepard throughout the series before ME:A. I'm willing to bet you weren't. of course not. But A. I quite enjoyed Shepard. But their time is done. Time for someone else to take charge. B. Shepard was my first RP protagonist. As such i did not realize their weaknesses. C. Ryder raised the bar for protagonist in ME games.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2017 21:48:00 GMT
I honestly wonder if you were this critical of Shepard throughout the series before ME:A. I'm willing to bet you weren't. of course not. But A. I quite enjoyed Shepard. But their time is done. Time for someone else to take charge. B. Shepard was my first RP protagonist. As such i did not realize their weaknesses. C. Ryder raised the bar for protagonist in ME games. I feel "C" is just plain wrong. Ryder (to me at least) is lackluster when compared to all the other protagonist for Bioware. He/She feels very rushed and not fleshed out at all. Of course this is my opinion.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Sept 25, 2017 21:49:53 GMT
Among recent Bioware protagonists for me it goes from best to worst: 1. Inquisitor 2. Ryder 3. HoF 4. Shepard 5. Hawke
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2017 22:29:40 GMT
Among recent Bioware protagonists for me it goes from best to worst: 1. Inquisitor 2. Ryder 3. HoF 4. Shepard 5. Hawke 1. HoF 2. Shepard 3. Inquisitor 4. Hawke 5. Ryder
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Post by akaranzo on Sept 27, 2017 16:01:23 GMT
It can take place in Andromeda, but not with the characters of MEA. I'm sorry but there is simply no way to resurrect the absolutely awful and uninspired story of Mass Effect Andromeda.
There is no way you can make the Kett threatening in any way or the Angara interesting. The squad is also a pale imitation of the original trilogy. I would just completely forget about that story and make the next game about the Quarian ark. You play as not the Quarian pathfinder, but just an engineer/scientist/soldier or some other class who has to take action once your ark encounters trouble and gets spaced. Make the game take place in a completely different area of Andromeda, one that is much harsher and tougher. One that has some actually interesting races that seem way more alien and unnerving than the ones we saw in MEA.
Make the environment conditions and the planet themselves be the biggest obstacle, not a shooting gallery of generic aliens. Make the game more linear in the sense that you remove all the clutter of exploring giant empty areas, but instead you are constantly in focused story related instances and you have to make important decisions more frequently. Quality over quantity (the opposite of MEA). That is what makes Mass Effect the great franchise that it is. A compelling and ambitious sci-fi story, that takes place in an immersive world. And you can make that world immersive without cluttering it with pointless and dragged out sidequests in a giant bland looking area.
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Post by alanc9 on Sept 27, 2017 16:32:35 GMT
That would fail so hard.....
Though it'd be a creative way to solve the animations problem, since almost all of the NPCs wouldn't have facial animations.
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Post by Superhik on Sept 27, 2017 16:51:57 GMT
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Post by Iakus on Sept 27, 2017 19:19:25 GMT
That would fail so hard..... Though it'd be a creative way to solve the animations problem, since almost all of the NPCs wouldn't have facial animations. I dunno. Some of those details I wouldn't like, such as making the game more linear. But a true "player vs the environment" game would be a nice novelty as opposed to "depopulate a planet full of aliens" like we usually get.
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Post by anarchy65 on Sept 27, 2017 19:29:47 GMT
It can take place in Andromeda, but not with the characters of MEA. I'm sorry but there is simply no way to resurrect the absolutely awful and uninspired story of Mass Effect Andromeda. Exactly, that's, for me, the main problem of Andromeda. They tried to develop the characters, but all of them are pretty pathetic and epic fail copies from previous characters. Vetra is "female Garrus", she even has the visor, just like Garrus, Drack is older Wrex (hahaha, I'm here to say badass things and tell war stories), Cora and Liam are the two initial stupid human characters we couldn't care less about (what a pity we couldn't let one of them, or even both of them die in Andromeda), SAM is a far less interesting EDI, etc. Cora and Liam are the worst, IMO. Liam is an absolutely idiot and Cora can't say 10 words without one of them being "asari". If they work REALLY hard they could fix some of them and give them more depth, but I don't see it happening, it's better to write all characters from scratch And of course, BRING BACK RENEGADE OPTIONS, I DON'T WANNA BE NICE ALL THE TIME! I just missed a renegade interruption that allowed me to punch Tann in the face for his racism. One of the hardest options was when I had to tell Liam either "You're an asset to the team" or "It's good to have you here", because both of them are absolutely not true. That's one of the things that made Ryder the worst main character EVER on a Bioware game.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Sept 27, 2017 19:32:17 GMT
I have to admit I'm pleasantly surprised that having MEA2 with Ryder and Co has more votes than literally every other option combined. Hopefully Bioware listens.
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Post by skrillex on Sept 27, 2017 19:34:12 GMT
IF MASS EFFECT GETS ANOTHER GAME, WHAT WOULD YOU WANT? Faces that don't look so tired.
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Post by akaranzo on Sept 28, 2017 1:20:52 GMT
That would fail so hard..... Though it'd be a creative way to solve the animations problem, since almost all of the NPCs wouldn't have facial animations. Would it though? It would certainly be risky and a publisher like EA would take a lot of convincing to go through with something like this but I think it could be a great success. Gamers are itching for something that dares to innovate and bring in something new to the RPG genre. The Witcher 3 was such a hit that it sort of defined everything that the genre should be for a lot of people (personally I didn't care much for it) and as a result, any RPG that comes out now is immediately compared to TW3 and if it is worse in any aspect, it gets shit on. So why not just come out with something that's different. Offer the players a great story still and an RPG experience but make it different enough so that the comparisons don't make themselves. That would fail so hard..... Though it'd be a creative way to solve the animations problem, since almost all of the NPCs wouldn't have facial animations. I dunno. Some of those details I wouldn't like, such as making the game more linear. But a true "player vs the environment" game would be a nice novelty as opposed to "depopulate a planet full of aliens" like we usually get. Well linear in the sense that there are less fetch quests added to stretch out the game time. You could still choose the order of the missions you're going to take on, but every mission actually has some direct relevance to the main story and is a more focused experience in that sense. Maybe I've got the wrong idea but I feel like the vast open world aspect of RPG's has become a little stale for people as of late, unless it's absolutely perfect, people are going to complain about MMO like quests and boring open areas. So why not try and replace those with smaller but more plot relevant missions and sequences?
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Post by smilesja on Sept 28, 2017 1:42:39 GMT
I prefer they continue Andromeda. Lots of untapped potential.
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Post by flyingovertrout on Sept 28, 2017 8:18:48 GMT
MEA2, occurs a few years later, new protagonist, Ryders as NPCs, a carry-over legacy squad member, new plot but expanding the continuity from MEA. Basically, I want Mass Effect to stay in Andromeda and be more like Dragon Age (I realize this is not a popular take).
Edit: Alternatively, play as the Ryder twin you didn't pick.
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Post by colfoley on Sept 28, 2017 8:23:31 GMT
MEA2, occurs a few years later, new protagonist, Ryders as NPCs, a carry-over legacy squad member, new plot but expanding the continuity from MEA. Basically, I want Mass Effect to stay in Andromeda and be more like Dragon Age (I realize this is not a popular take). Edit: Alternatively, play as the Ryder twin you didn't pick. I could support it.
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Post by griffith82 on Sept 28, 2017 17:52:16 GMT
MEA2, occurs a few years later, new protagonist, Ryders as NPCs, a carry-over legacy squad member, new plot but expanding the continuity from MEA. Basically, I want Mass Effect to stay in Andromeda and be more like Dragon Age (I realize this is not a popular take). Edit: Alternatively, play as the Ryder twin you didn't pick. I could get behind that if and I mean if it continues the story from MEA so not too far in the future maybe a few months ala ME2. Have some reason why the Ryder's are benched. Like game starts and in the Prologue Meridian is attacked. You control Ryder and in your squad is your twin and Vetra. Both of you are critically injured. *unkown hero within lore* arrives to help. Cue CC and game goes on. Doesn't have to be this cliche but something along these lines.
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