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Post by alanc9 on Sept 22, 2017 16:00:45 GMT
Gotcha. I'm not one of the complainers for either series. Hell, I've been known to defend TW1's cards. I think they solve an RP problem with the activity not being rewarding enough.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2017 16:01:01 GMT
And makes Bioware games not part of this "teenage fantasy"? Ah the defensiveness is leaking out of you. Point is Geralt can't make anyone pregnant or give them a disease. In a medieval setting that's a pretty big fantasy. Ahem...Miranda
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Post by samhain444 on Sept 22, 2017 16:19:42 GMT
I thought Habitat 7 was the best part of the game. Things didn't really start falling apart till you reach the Nexus for the first time. If EA had been smart they would have stopped the trial there at the end of Habitat 7 instead of an open 10 hour sample. Aside from that they only thing they could have done to make it better is to have the game in a more finished state before going to launch. Hmm.. Habitat 7 is misleading, but the rest of the game is bad, so to boost sales the trial should have been made more misleading than it was? It's a defensible hypothesis, although a fairly despicable strategy. But it's indicative of the Companion and Main Missions in the game. Plus, I don't agree the rest of the game is bad, that's an opinion so I don't see how it would be considered despicable. The point of, say, previews for movies is to entice you to see the movie so you edit it to appear appealing to the consumer, that's accepted marketing strategy. I don't see how providing an enticing video game trial is any different
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Post by smilesja on Sept 22, 2017 16:22:56 GMT
This just shows how few RPGs you’ve actually played... if anything, it better explains why you love Andromeda. TW 3, Skyrim, Fallout 4, All four Mass Effect games, all four DA games ( ), Kingdoms of Avalur, No need to prove yourself.
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Post by smilesja on Sept 22, 2017 16:25:46 GMT
It's funny really, I've spent more time in DA:I than I have Witcher 3 (having played the first 2). I wonder why; on paper I should love the game but it just leaves me cold. The only thing that has changed for me personally from W2 to W3 is having two daughters be born. Maybe it means I've had enough of the gruff manly man chisel jawed woman magnet mcgruffathon so beloved of teenage boys? Who knows. People on the BSN always bring up Geralt's sexual exploits, but that stuff is entirely player-driven. I really don't get the thought process; especially given BioWare's disturbing emphasis on (obsession with) relationships and sex. Because they have a fan base that loves the relationships.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2017 16:33:36 GMT
People on the BSN always bring up Geralt's sexual exploits, but that stuff is entirely player-driven. I really don't get the thought process; especially given BioWare's disturbing emphasis on (obsession with) relationships and sex. Because they have a fan base that loves the relationships. Duh...That was his point. People on here bring up Geralt but fail to see the similarity in Mass Effect.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2017 16:38:03 GMT
TW 3, Skyrim, Fallout 4, All four Mass Effect games, all four DA games ( ), Kingdoms of Avalur, No need to prove yourself. But you and others expect people who dislike the game to show why less they be called "Haters".
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Post by vonuber on Sept 22, 2017 16:42:31 GMT
If you need an in-game explanation for it, Gerald is a witcher. They are virtually immune to disease. It's an important trait, considering the filth they encounter. You can say that the sexual encounters are juvenile fantasies if you wish. I broadly agree. You can't single out TW, though, and spare BioWare, without seeming disingenuous. BioWare historically features far more juvenile depictions of sex and romance, in my opinion, with its alien waifus and such. I don't mean the romances are juvenile- my point is that the consequence free setup in a world that focuses so much on consequence is the fantasy. It deliberately makes Geralt and by extension the player uniquely desirable in the world.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2017 16:49:01 GMT
If you need an in-game explanation for it, Gerald is a witcher. They are virtually immune to disease. It's an important trait, considering the filth they encounter. You can say that the sexual encounters are juvenile fantasies if you wish. I broadly agree. You can't single out TW, though, and spare BioWare, without seeming disingenuous. BioWare historically features far more juvenile depictions of sex and romance, in my opinion, with its alien waifus and such. I don't mean the romances are juvenile- my point is that the consequence free setup in a world that focuses so much on consequence is the fantasy. It deliberately makes Geralt and by extension the player uniquely desirable in the world. This is pretty much real life though. Geralt is well known through out the books and game to be great at sex. The man can't help it if pussy follows him around everywhere...
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Post by suikoden on Sept 22, 2017 17:12:07 GMT
TW 3, Skyrim, Fallout 4, All four Mass Effect games, all four DA games ( ), Kingdoms of Avalur, No need to prove yourself. That’s not proving yourself... it just shows how limited his rpg experiences are. Casual gamers have played most of those games. If you can only go back one console generation in terms of your experience playing rpgs - you’re kind of a noob to the genre.
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Post by alanc9 on Sept 22, 2017 17:14:18 GMT
No need to prove yourself. That’s not proving yourself... it just shows how limited his rpg experiences are. Casual gamers have played most of those games. If you can only go back one console generation in terms of your experience playing rpgs - you’re kind of a noob to the genre. Oh, put away the e-peen, already. If you're going to actually take on his point, then come up with counterexamples.
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Post by vonuber on Sept 22, 2017 17:34:54 GMT
This is pretty much real life though. What, you are uniquely desirable are you?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2017 17:38:30 GMT
This is pretty much real life though. What, you are uniquely desirable are you? In my 40 years of live experience i've slept with many a women if that's what your getting at. I've been blessed to be well endowed and I'm not shy in the least about it.
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Post by vonuber on Sept 22, 2017 17:39:36 GMT
In my 40 years of live experience i've slept with many a women if that's what your getting at. I've been blessed to be well endowed and I'm not shy in the least about it. Oh that's worth quoting for posterity.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2017 17:40:50 GMT
In my 40 years of live experience i've slept with many a women if that's what your getting at. I've been blessed to be well endowed and I'm not shy in the least about it. Oh that's worth quoting for posterity. You asked right...
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Post by Steelcan on Sept 22, 2017 18:09:09 GMT
If you need an in-game explanation for it, Gerald is a witcher. They are virtually immune to disease. It's an important trait, considering the filth they encounter. You can say that the sexual encounters are juvenile fantasies if you wish. I broadly agree. You can't single out TW, though, and spare BioWare, without seeming disingenuous. BioWare historically features far more juvenile depictions of sex and romance, in my opinion, with its alien waifus and such. I don't mean the romances are juvenile- my point is that the consequence free setup in a world that focuses so much on consequence is the fantasy. It deliberately makes Geralt and by extension the player uniquely desirable in the world. This is a charge you can level at any RPG protagonist. Geralt however does face the consequences for trying to have sex with Triss and Yen, they both leave him and he lives out his life alone. How is that not a consequences?
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Post by smilesja on Sept 22, 2017 18:28:50 GMT
No need to prove yourself. That’s not proving yourself... it just shows how limited his rpg experiences are. Casual gamers have played most of those games. If you can only go back one console generation in terms of your experience playing rpgs - you’re kind of a noob to the genre. That's a lot of experience to me who cares if the "casual" gamers played those games? He played enough to be experienced.
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Post by vonuber on Sept 22, 2017 18:48:47 GMT
This is a charge you can level at any RPG protagonist. Geralt however does face the consequences for trying to have sex with Triss and Yen, they both leave him and he lives out his life alone. How is that not a consequences? I'm not saying it isn't- but it is a different type of consequence, I.e. the result of trying to sleep with two desirable women at once. That's a fantasy in of itself! All I'm saying is that the Witcher has at its core one massive (male) fantasy. It's just interesting that I find that pretty 'meh' now. Unlike Mr WellEndowed, obviously.
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Post by suikoden on Sept 22, 2017 18:49:36 GMT
That’s not proving yourself... it just shows how limited his rpg experiences are. Casual gamers have played most of those games. If you can only go back one console generation in terms of your experience playing rpgs - you’re kind of a noob to the genre. Oh, put away the e-peen, already. If you're going to actually take on his point, then come up with counterexamples. Go back and play the classic SNES rpgs, the dozens of excellent rpgs on PS1 and PS2, and countless crpgs. I think most people that dislike Andromeda will have had a much more thorough gaming background, and won’t be as easily wowed by a mediocre rpg.
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Post by suikoden on Sept 22, 2017 18:50:23 GMT
That’s not proving yourself... it just shows how limited his rpg experiences are. Casual gamers have played most of those games. If you can only go back one console generation in terms of your experience playing rpgs - you’re kind of a noob to the genre. That's a lot of experience to me who cares if the "casual" gamers played those games? He played enough to be experienced. That’s because you have even less experience. You’re helping to prove my point.
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Post by vonuber on Sept 22, 2017 18:51:34 GMT
Go back and play the classic SNES rpgs, the dozens of excellent rpgs on PS1 and PS2, and countless crpgs. I think most people that dislike Andromeda will have had a much more thorough gaming background, and won’t be as easily wowed by a mediocre rpg. Oh get over yourself. I've been gaming since I was 8 (29 years) and I enjoyed Andromeda. You are just coming across as a berk now.
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Post by samhain444 on Sept 22, 2017 18:54:23 GMT
Go back and play the classic SNES rpgs, the dozens of excellent rpgs on PS1 and PS2, and countless crpgs. I think most people that dislike Andromeda will have had a much more thorough gaming background, and won’t be as easily wowed by a mediocre rpg. Oh get over yourself. I've been gaming since I was 8 (29 years) and I enjoyed Andromeda. You are just coming across as a berk now. Now?
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Sept 22, 2017 18:55:42 GMT
Oh, put away the e-peen, already. If you're going to actually take on his point, then come up with counterexamples. Go back and play the classic SNES rpgs, the dozens of excellent rpgs on PS1 and PS2, and countless crpgs. I think most people that dislike Andromeda will have had a much more thorough gaming background, and won’t be as easily wowed by a mediocre rpg.
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Post by Steelcan on Sept 22, 2017 18:58:33 GMT
This is a charge you can level at any RPG protagonist. Geralt however does face the consequences for trying to have sex with Triss and Yen, they both leave him and he lives out his life alone. How is that not a consequences? I'm not saying it isn't- but it is a different type of consequence, I.e. the result of trying to sleep with two desirable women at once. That's a fantasy in of itself! All I'm saying is that the Witcher has at its core one massive (male) fantasy. It's just interesting that I find that pretty 'meh' now. Unlike Mr WellEndowed, obviously. And all I'm saying is that it's no different from any other RPG. Geralt is no different from any other RPG protagonist in this regard, especially BioWare ones. NPCs fawn over Shepard, Hawke, and the warden just as much as they do in TW3.
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Post by samhain444 on Sept 22, 2017 18:59:09 GMT
Kinda funny...rare when you have figurative and literal "dick measuring" in a thread but, you know, there it is
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