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Post by suikoden on Sept 22, 2017 18:59:33 GMT
Go back and play the classic SNES rpgs, the dozens of excellent rpgs on PS1 and PS2, and countless crpgs. I think most people that dislike Andromeda will have had a much more thorough gaming background, and won’t be as easily wowed by a mediocre rpg.  You’re right - I meant to write “bad” - not mediocre. Thanks for pointing that out. |
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Post by Steelcan on Sept 22, 2017 19:08:43 GMT
Oh, put away the e-peen, already. If you're going to actually take on his point, then come up with counterexamples. Go back and play the classic SNES rpgs, the dozens of excellent rpgs on PS1 and PS2, and countless crpgs. I think most people that dislike Andromeda will have had a much more thorough gaming background, and won’t be as easily wowed by a mediocre rpg. Contemporary RPGs have plenty of examples of superior games. TW3, Skyrim, DA:I, Tyranny, PoE, Dvinity OS1/2 |
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Post by vonuber on Sept 22, 2017 19:10:04 GMT
And all I'm saying is that it's no different from any other RPG. Geralt is no different from any other RPG protagonist in this regard, especially BioWare ones. NPCs fawn over Shepard, Hawke, and the warden just as much as they do in TW3. True, but with Geralt it is written in the lore that women find them attractive because of that specific detail, regardless of their personality or faults. In other RPG's it's generally a result of their actions / words. |
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Sept 22, 2017 19:12:38 GMT
Go back and play the classic SNES rpgs, the dozens of excellent rpgs on PS1 and PS2, and countless crpgs. I think most people that dislike Andromeda will have had a much more thorough gaming background, and won’t be as easily wowed by a mediocre rpg. Contemporary RPGs have plenty of examples of superior games. TW3, Skyrim, DA:I, Tyranny, PoE, Dvinity OS1/2 According to them those don't count since casual gamers have played those. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2017 19:15:48 GMT
This is a charge you can level at any RPG protagonist. Geralt however does face the consequences for trying to have sex with Triss and Yen, they both leave him and he lives out his life alone. How is that not a consequences? I'm not saying it isn't- but it is a different type of consequence, I.e. the result of trying to sleep with two desirable women at once. That's a fantasy in of itself! All I'm saying is that the Witcher has at its core one massive (male) fantasy. It's just interesting that I find that pretty 'meh' now. Unlike Mr WellEndowed, obviously. I guess you forgot about the Liara and Ashley "Can't I have both" option... |
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Post by Steelcan on Sept 22, 2017 19:19:02 GMT
And all I'm saying is that it's no different from any other RPG. Geralt is no different from any other RPG protagonist in this regard, especially BioWare ones. NPCs fawn over Shepard, Hawke, and the warden just as much as they do in TW3. True, but with Geralt it is written in the lore that women find them attractive because of that specific detail, regardless of their personality or faults. In other RPG's it's generally a result of their actions / words. Seeing as how that's not one woman's reason for sleeping with Geralt in TW3, I'm gonna call bull. All the potential sexual encounters (excluding prostitues) are wholly down to Geralt's decisions and actions. |
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Post by Steelcan on Sept 22, 2017 19:21:38 GMT
Contemporary RPGs have plenty of examples of superior games. TW3, Skyrim, DA:I, Tyranny, PoE, Dvinity OS1/2 According to them those don't count since casual gamers have played those. Well god forbid that people play different things |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2017 19:22:48 GMT
Let's not forget about this little tidbit for that matter...   |
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Post by vonuber on Sept 22, 2017 19:31:23 GMT
Seeing as how that's not one woman's reason for sleeping with Geralt in TW3, I'm gonna call bull. All the potential sexual encounters (excluding prostitues) are wholly down to Geralt's decisions and actions. I wasn't on about the Witcher 3, but the previous games. I think it is a lore entry in the first one where it is mentioned that women find them desirable because of this, leading to jealousy from husbands and other men. |
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Post by smilesja on Sept 22, 2017 19:39:06 GMT
That's a lot of experience to me who cares if the "casual" gamers played those games? He played enough to be experienced. That’s because you have even less experience. You’re helping to prove my point. Oh please people can enjoy classic RPG and today's RPG. |
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Post by mannyray on Sept 22, 2017 19:45:08 GMT
Ah well it that case it is easier to RP in Andromeda. You aren't set to a specific character. Geralt is set in stone. You can alter his personality a tad but not much. I feel exactly the opposite. Ryder is every bit the set protagonist that Geralt is. The difference is that Geralt gets to actually make judgments and take meaningful action, to have real interaction with his world. There are far too many examples to even name, since they're found at every turn. Ryder, on the other hand, gets 2hro flavors of friendly, passive or submissive 99% of the time. I enjoy MEA, but this is my single greatest disappointment with it. I don't find it to offer any real RP opportunities. Every PT is essentially the same thing, regardless of dialogue and "moral" choices. I gotta agree here. You can customize Ryder's appearance, but compared to the choices you had to build Shepard's backstory and personality, Ryder's choices only get you various shades of immature, socially maladjusted teenager even in spots where it's glaringly obvious different choices need drastically different outcomes. In Witcher 3, I'm barely 25% through my first playthrough and I already can see I have more control with my choices over what happens around me in-game as well as Geralt's personality. |
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Post by mannyray on Sept 22, 2017 19:45:58 GMT
to be fair though most RPGs have really weak...let's say...first ten percent of their gameplay. Only real exceptions are DA 2 and ME 3. This just shows how few RPGs you’ve actually played... if anything, it better explains why you love Andromeda. Not to beat a dead horse, but you pretty much showed weeks ago you didn't even play the trial. Just sayin. |
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Post by majesticjazz on Sept 22, 2017 19:54:44 GMT
This is a charge you can level at any RPG protagonist. Geralt however does face the consequences for trying to have sex with Triss and Yen, they both leave him and he lives out his life alone. How is that not a consequences? I'm not saying it isn't- but it is a different type of consequence, I.e. the result of trying to sleep with two desirable women at once. That's a fantasy in of itself! All I'm saying is that the Witcher has at its core one massive (male) fantasy. It's just interesting that I find that pretty 'meh' now. Unlike Mr WellEndowed, obviously. You act like Bioware games havent had similar situations in both Dragon Age and Mass Effect. I mean within the first hour or so Shepard can bang the Asari consort. In DAO there is the entire brothel and possible 3some or even 4some. Hell, even the Imperial Agent and Smuggler in SWTOR had their various come hither moments although more implied and less graphic, they were still very sexually liberal. So I fail to see why TW3 must be singled out. |
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Post by smilesja on Sept 22, 2017 19:55:38 GMT
Because they have a fan base that loves the relationships. Duh...That was his point. People on here bring up Geralt but fail to see the similarity in Mass Effect. And vice versa for the fans of the witcher. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2017 19:59:47 GMT
Duh...That was his point. People on here bring up Geralt but fail to see the similarity in Mass Effect. And vice versa for the fans of the witcher. I mean....WTF. Did you even read anything from before? Here...Let me help you with some kindergarten level shit. ABCDEFG...HIJK go back and read the shit again... |
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Post by slimgrin727 on Sept 22, 2017 20:07:25 GMT
Let's not forget about this little tidbit for that matter... Holy shit I forgot about this, lol. I miss the old Bioware. |
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Post by majesticjazz on Sept 22, 2017 20:08:46 GMT
Duh...That was his point. People on here bring up Geralt but fail to see the similarity in Mass Effect. And vice versa for the fans of the witcher. Umm, have you read how this all started? No Witcher fan called out Bioware or MEA for being a "teenage boy fantasy". |
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Sept 22, 2017 20:09:42 GMT
And vice versa for the fans of the witcher. I mean....WTF. Did you even read anything from before? Here...Let me help you with some kindergarten level shit. ABCDEFG...HITK go back and read the shit again... Is the mistake in your alphabet intentional? Just curious why there is a T between I and K rather than a J. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2017 20:15:50 GMT
I mean....WTF. Did you even read anything from before? Here...Let me help you with some kindergarten level shit. ABCDEFG...HITK go back and read the shit again... Is the mistake in your alphabet intentional? Just curious why there is a T between I and K rather than a J. LOL OMG...I just changed over to a 60% keyboard and still getting use to this thing. Thanks for the notice. |
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Sept 22, 2017 20:17:05 GMT
Is the mistake in your alphabet intentional? Just curious why there is a T between I and K rather than a J. LOL OMG...I just changed over to a 60% keyboard and still getting use to this thing. Thanks for the notice. No problem. Glad I could help.  I just didn't know if it was a mistake or if it was part of a joke or reference or something.  |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2017 20:18:05 GMT
Go back and play the classic SNES rpgs, the dozens of excellent rpgs on PS1 and PS2, and countless crpgs. I think most people that dislike Andromeda will have had a much more thorough gaming background, and won’t be as easily wowed by a mediocre rpg. What was this from? For the life of me I can't remember the name of this anime. |
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Post by smilesja on Sept 22, 2017 20:26:28 GMT
And vice versa for the fans of the witcher. Umm, have you read how this all started? No Witcher fan called out Bioware or MEA for being a "teenage boy fantasy". Not even in this thread. Witcher fans called Bioware games Social justice propaganda. |
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Sept 22, 2017 20:27:13 GMT
What was this from? For the life of me I can't remember the name of this anime. So Ra No Wo To aka Sound of the Sky. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2017 20:29:38 GMT
What was this from? For the life of me I can't remember the name of this anime. So Ra No Wo To aka Sound of the Sky. Thank You! |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2017 20:35:56 GMT
Umm, have you read how this all started? No Witcher fan called out Bioware or MEA for being a "teenage boy fantasy". Not even in this thread. Witcher fans called Bioware games Social justice propaganda. So when one fan does it all of them do right? Do you even listen to yourself before you type? |
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