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Post by saMoorai on Sept 22, 2017 20:38:56 GMT
Again with the Bioware/CDPR rivalry. And wow, it's been a bit since I've seen some good old fashioned RPG elitism. It's like going to RPG Codex without the fear that Chris Avellone is silently watching.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2017 20:41:59 GMT
Again with the Bioware/CDPR rivalry. And wow, it's been a bit since I've seen some good old fashioned RPG elitism. It's like going to RPG Codex without the fear that Chris Avellone is silently watching. The problem is that it never was intended to be a rivalry. It was merely stating a point that what can be applied to one romance can be applied to the other. But common sense has never been a strong point for some. Hence all the bickering.
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Post by decafhigh on Sept 22, 2017 20:43:55 GMT
I thought Habitat 7 was the best part of the game. Things didn't really start falling apart till you reach the Nexus for the first time. If EA had been smart they would have stopped the trial there at the end of Habitat 7 instead of an open 10 hour sample. Aside from that they only thing they could have done to make it better is to have the game in a more finished state before going to launch. Hmm.. Habitat 7 is misleading, but the rest of the game is bad, so to boost sales the trial should have been made more misleading than it was? It's a defensible hypothesis, although a fairly despicable strategy. I don't disagree, but in the context of what would have been the best thing for EA to do in selling the game that is my opinion on what they should have done. Wouldn't have made the game any better, true, but it would have made some of those early reviews and first impressions better. Maybe. Couldn't have hurt at least.
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Post by vonuber on Sept 22, 2017 20:52:04 GMT
And vice versa for the fans of the witcher. Umm, have you read how this all started? No Witcher fan called out Bioware or MEA for being a "teenage boy fantasy". Thing is i haven't said anything about Bioware. It's well known that they do the power fantasy trope like no other, indidnt dispute that. My comment was merely in relation to why i personally don't have the Witcher 3 grabbing me, mainly due to how Geralt is setup. It's funny how vocal people are in its defence though, given that's all I am saying. I'm not saying it's a bad game at all, it just doesn't grab me at present. I am just currently preferring to play the sequel to the game that actually won the bafta for story telling, just not the game that didn't
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2017 21:14:13 GMT
Umm, have you read how this all started? No Witcher fan called out Bioware or MEA for being a "teenage boy fantasy". Thing is i haven't said anything about Bioware.It's well known that they do the power fantasy trope like no other, indidnt dispute that. My comment was merely in relation to why i personally don't have the Witcher 3 grabbing me, mainly due to how Geralt is setup. It's funny how vocal people are in its defence though, given that's all I am saying. I'm not saying it's a bad game at all, it just doesn't grab me at present. I am just currently preferring to play the sequel to the game that actually won the bafta for story telling, just not the game that didn't Given you're previous comparison to Dragon Age in relation to Geralt and TW3, one can only assume (based off of the natural progression of the discussion) that you were actually talking from a Bioware stand point. We're only trying to figure out why TW3 is a "teen boy fantasy" and the other (DA being able to have a 4some or ME1 asking for a 3some) isn't. This is just a debate that went too far because smilesja has no damn clue what the hell he's talking about. Edit: I have nothing against you personally and it's all in good faith. I would never put down someone else's enjoyment in a game.
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Post by vonuber on Sept 22, 2017 21:23:02 GMT
My point was that I am currently playing DA:I rather than trying to play W3. It was mere musing as to why that is, and i suspect part of it is Geralt. I am intrigued about Ciri, so maybe I will don't eventually.
However i am also due to start divinity 2, which I hope is suitable enough RPG credentials for Suikoden.
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Post by samhain444 on Sept 22, 2017 21:43:18 GMT
My point was that I am currently playing DA:I rather than trying to play W3. It was mere musing as to why that is, and i suspect part of it is Geralt. I am intrigued about Ciri, so maybe I will don't eventually. However i am also due to start divinity 2, which I hope is suitable enough RPG credentials for Suikoden. While I'd be up in the air about getting into another game with Geralt as the protagonist (and from what CDProjekt Red stated this is the end of Geralt's story), but I would be happy with a new story/game centered around Ciri...that would be interesting. Also, hyped for Divinity 2 as well...will be starting that up in the near future
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Post by Serza on Sept 22, 2017 21:44:51 GMT
What, you are uniquely desirable are you? In my 40 years of live experience i've slept with many a women if that's what your getting at. I've been blessed to be well endowed and I'm not shy in the least about it. I knew there was something genuinely trustworthy about you, Mr. Special Forces!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2017 21:54:17 GMT
In my 40 years of live experience i've slept with many a women if that's what your getting at. I've been blessed to be well endowed and I'm not shy in the least about it. I knew there was something genuinely trustworthy about you, Mr. Special Forces! I tried but never made it. I injured myself on a 28 mile road march. My knee gave out and it never quite recovered the same. As for the endowed comment, I can't help it if he asked for more than he could handle...
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Post by Serza on Sept 22, 2017 21:57:05 GMT
Yeah. I'm very inclined to believe you.
Oh my, I do wonder...
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Post by Andrew Lucas on Sept 22, 2017 22:42:41 GMT
I knew there was something genuinely trustworthy about you, Mr. Special Forces! I tried but never made it. I injured myself on a 28 mile road march. My knee gave out and it never quite recovered the same. As for the endowed comment, I can't help it if he asked for more than he could handle... If I wasn't dating, I was going to say "teach me your ways, senpai." These other dudes are devoid of any common sense.
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Post by colfoley on Sept 22, 2017 23:05:57 GMT
Again with the Bioware/CDPR rivalry. And wow, it's been a bit since I've seen some good old fashioned RPG elitism. It's like going to RPG Codex without the fear that Chris Avellone is silently watching. i love Bioware. I love CDPR. They probably are the two best companies out there for gaming right now.
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Post by heathenoxman on Sept 22, 2017 23:13:20 GMT
I like WRPGs.
Don't care who makes them.
Can't we all just get along?
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Post by smilesja on Sept 22, 2017 23:17:30 GMT
I like that I'm being dragged into this. but yeah I like both the Witcher and Dragon Age/Mass Effect series. If anything, both fans have a lot in common.
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Post by vonuber on Sept 22, 2017 23:22:03 GMT
As for the endowed comment, I can't help it if he asked for more than he could handle... I can't recall asking you how big your cock was - it's not something I am particularly interested in; nor something I am interested in handling. Still, whatever floats your boat.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2017 23:47:12 GMT
As for the endowed comment, I can't help it if he asked for more than he could handle... I can't recall asking you how big your cock was - it's not something I am particularly interested in; nor something I am interested in handling. Still, whatever floats your boat. Really now? So you never said... ...in a prior post? You asked so you got it. Don't back track now.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2017 23:50:42 GMT
I like that I'm being dragged into this. but yeah I like both the Witcher and Dragon Age/Mass Effect series. If anything, both fans have a lot in common. That passive/aggressive crap has to stop. But here's a little something for you...
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Post by thedarkprince on Sept 23, 2017 0:49:38 GMT
Only mistake was Bioware making a bad game.
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Post by colfoley on Sept 23, 2017 1:08:59 GMT
passive aggressive you say?
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Post by suikoden on Sept 23, 2017 1:10:05 GMT
Go back and play the classic SNES rpgs, the dozens of excellent rpgs on PS1 and PS2, and countless crpgs. I think most people that dislike Andromeda will have had a much more thorough gaming background, and won’t be as easily wowed by a mediocre rpg. Contemporary RPGs have plenty of examples of superior games. TW3, Skyrim, DA:I, Tyranny, PoE, Dvinity OS1/2 I'd only rank TW3 and Skyrim as quality RPGs out of that list... I'd put them behind games like FFT, SMT:Nocturne, Suikoden 1-3, Vagrant Story, Xenogears, Chrono Trigger and Chrono Cross, Wild Arms 1, Lunar, Persona 3/4/5, BG1-2, IWD 1-2... the list is endless. As a fan of rpgs I feel like you probably should have played most of those - if you did, your contemporary list would pale much more in comparison.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2017 1:11:05 GMT
passive aggressive you say? You got your buddies back? How cute...
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Post by suikoden on Sept 23, 2017 1:12:18 GMT
Only mistake was Bioware making a bad game. *multiple bad games.
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Post by majesticjazz on Sept 23, 2017 1:55:16 GMT
Umm, have you read how this all started? No Witcher fan called out Bioware or MEA for being a "teenage boy fantasy". Not even in this thread. Witcher fans called Bioware games Social justice propaganda. Yes, TW3 fanatics have called Bioware games SJW agenda pieces. However TW3 itself isnt a SJW agenda piece so to speak so those fans arent being hypocritical. What is going on here is hypocrisy. One calls out TW3 for being a teenage male fantasy because the maim character has numerous sexual encounters with females and yet that same act has taken place in Bioware games in the past and yet doesnt call ME1 or DAO out for the same thing they call TW3 out on. Nobody really considers TW3 to be "SJW territory" so calling out Bioware on that isnt hypocrisy.
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Post by colfoley on Sept 23, 2017 1:58:15 GMT
Not even in this thread. Witcher fans called Bioware games Social justice propaganda. Yes, TW3 fanatics have called Bioware games SJW agenda pieces. However TW3 itself isnt a SJW agenda piece so to speak so those fans arent being hypocritical. What is going on here is hypocrisy. One calls out TW3 for being a teenage male fantasy because the maim character has numerous sexual encounters with females and yet that same act has taken place in Bioware games in the past and yet doesnt call ME1 or DAO out for the same thing they call TW3 out on. Nobody really considers TW3 to be "SJW territory" so calling out Bioware on that isnt hypocrisy. Because ME 1 and DA O isn't even in the same solar system of depravity as TW 1. I will never play Witcher 1 just for howbad it treats its 'sex'.
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Post by Steelcan on Sept 23, 2017 2:03:10 GMT
Yes, TW3 fanatics have called Bioware games SJW agenda pieces. However TW3 itself isnt a SJW agenda piece so to speak so those fans arent being hypocritical. What is going on here is hypocrisy. One calls out TW3 for being a teenage male fantasy because the maim character has numerous sexual encounters with females and yet that same act has taken place in Bioware games in the past and yet doesnt call ME1 or DAO out for the same thing they call TW3 out on. Nobody really considers TW3 to be "SJW territory" so calling out Bioware on that isnt hypocrisy. Because ME 1 and DA O isn't even in the same solar system of depravity as TW 1. I will never play Witcher 1 just for howbad it treats its 'sex'. a mistake, that the developers owned up to and vowed to improve on in the future if your enjoyment of a game is completely and totally hampered by optional side content... that's just weird. Especially when there's so many more valid criticisms to lob at TW1, the combat is atrocious for one
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