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Post by shinary on Sept 30, 2017 15:45:56 GMT
Hey guys. I don't know if there has been a thread like this already, but I had some ideas that I would like to share for returning companions for DA4. In the previous games we have had one companion returning and a secondary character show up as a companion as well. And in DAI we had several characters from the books join us as well (Vivienne and Cole). These are the characters I would like see returning: Cole: Cole is one of the characters that can't die, which makes him more likely than Iron Bull and Blackwall imo(But they could pull a Lelianna, so who knows). I think it would be great if he returned because he is probably one of the few, who could give us a deeper insight into Solas. No matter how you feel about Solas, he is a grey character that is both good and bad. I could fear that there would be a lot of focus on the bad the next time around. Cole, due to his nature and friendship with Solas, could give a different insight into his friends feelings and motivations. I imagine that Cole would probably help the new protagonist in an attempt to save him from himself. I would also love for him to be a love interest this time around, as he has grown quite a bit (and the bard left him for Khrem ). I think it would be an interesting romance with a different type of character than they have had before. (He can still be optional for those who don't like him - or you can just go so much after killing Solas that he eventually leaves). Scout Harding: She is a loved character with a fun personality, and I really think she will be a companion this time around. It would make sense that she join on behalf of the Inquisitor, who is now missing an arm, and is probably not that combat-efficient anymore (at least my archer is screwed). It would make a connection between the two games, that Cole can not provide because you might have told him to go away. I also really hope that she will be a proper romance option this time around. Maevaris: Now originally I wanted Khrem to return, but I actually think she might be a better choice (also, you might have killed Khrem - you monster ). As a friend of Dorian and part of the new movement in Tevinter I think she would be really interesting. She has a sad backstory, with a dead husband and has a powerful personality, that made her succeed despite the opposition in the magestirium (she is transgender). She also has a fun personality. Now, I think it would be interesting to make her a love interest for a male protagonist, but I seriously doubt Bioware is brave enough to attempt this (and I don't blame them for this). An Avvar: I loved getting to know more about them in DAI. I found them truly fascinating - especially their relationship with spirits. I would love to learn more in the next installment and a companion would be a good way to do this. (I would also settle for a talking hold beast ) Anyway, these are my immediate ideas and speculations. Who and what would like to see in the next game?
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Post by Artemis on Oct 1, 2017 1:51:53 GMT
Even though I don't care for Harding, I think she will return just because she's so popular. (Because otherwise she has no real reason to be in the game - I think she's from Lothering? Redcliffe? Not affiliated with Tevinter in anyway.) She's the new Cullen.
I think we will see Maevaris; only caveat is she was Gaider's character and he's gone. But I don't think that will affect her inclusion. I DON'T think she will be a love interest. I think she's at least mid-40s at this point. I mean, okay, maybe they do a mid-40s woman, but... I would be surprised.
I think we'll see Dorian, even though I don't find him personally interesting enough to warrant a return. He's another Gaider character, but I don't think that will matter. The fact that Trespasser basically "broke up" Dorian and the Inquisitor suggests to me they want to use Dorian without having to bother with the Inquisitor. Pretty lame for Dorianmancers.
Cole... I don't think we will see him. Because the decision to make him fully human or spirit is too big to be dealt with so that the fourth game adequately recognizes this difference.
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Post by Artemis on Oct 1, 2017 2:04:01 GMT
People I WANT to see return -- haha guess I didn't read your post correctly Krem -- I think he's so interesting and offers a unique perspective of Tevinter, being that he's a non-mage and no one of particular importance. He's like... a regular guy. I really want that perspective; I'm really tired of the "great families" and mage aristocracy and what not. Delvin Barris -- So okay I know he can die, but... I mean, Leliana came back, right?! I thought he was rather sweet and naive, not surprising since he seems to be a young man. It'd be interesting to see him rebuildling the templars, though not sure how that would align with the fourth game. Also he's super cute and would make a great romance option. Maevaris -- I would love to finally see her in the game. I'd like her to be an advisor. Have a feeling she'll be straight if romance-able, so, meh. Some really minor characters I think it would be interesting to see return as major characters: Minaeve, Lysas, Charade (from DA2), Frederic, Fairbanks, the dwarven author of the Notes in the Wastes, the Warden who writes the notes found throughout the Storm Coast, Judith (Crestwood)... and that's off the top of my head. Some of these are such interesting characters with personalities that really stood out (even if just in writing).
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2017 15:28:48 GMT
I'd love to see Dorian back, and Nathaniel or Sebastian if at all possible, and as fully fledged romantic options.
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Post by gervaise21 on Oct 2, 2017 15:50:23 GMT
I wouldn't mind having entirely new characters. With the wholly different culture up north from the Anderfels, through Tevinter, over to Rivain, not to mention Seheron, there is a lot of potential for interesting new people to be introduced. I am particularly hoping for a Fog Warrior or Fog Dancer.
I do hope to see Dorian because otherwise there was no point in having him leave the Inquisitor but I'm sure he will only be a contact/advisor to the new PC. I did like Scout Harding and would like her as a romance option but she is "known" to Solas and her connections are in the south, so I really don't know how they would justify sending her north.
I believe they have ruled out anyone who could potentially be dead, which excludes a lot of former characters. I think we could see Calpernia because she is never definitively seen dead and even her entry in WoT2 leaves her fate ambiguous. Whether she will return as an enemy or a friend is another matter but she does have strong connections with Tevinter and therefore a legitimate reason to be up there. She is also anti-slavery, unlike Maevaris. If the latter is a companion I hope we are allowed to take her to task over the issue of slavery a bit more robustly than we were allowed to do with Dorian. If she declares "Everyone has slaves in Tevinter, darling" to me, I will not be amused.
We could be seeing Vaea and Ser Aaron from the comic series because they are heading for Tevinter. I think one returning warrior, rogue and mage character would be sufficient. Leave the other slots open for new people.
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Post by shinary on Oct 2, 2017 19:01:29 GMT
I believe they have ruled out anyone who could potentially be dead, which excludes a lot of former characters. I think we could see Calpernia because she is never definitively seen dead and even her entry in WoT2 leaves her fate ambiguous. Whether she will return as an enemy or a friend is another matter but she does have strong connections with Tevinter and therefore a legitimate reason to be up there. She is also anti-slavery, unlike Maevaris. If the latter is a companion I hope we are allowed to take her to task over the issue of slavery a bit more robustly than we were allowed to do with Dorian. If she declares "Everyone has slaves in Tevinter, darling" to me, I will not be amused. I Hadn't even thought of Calpernia, but that would be interesting actually. I hardly ever encounter her myself because: Mages. But I could see some potential in that. I doubt it though, as she could be seen as dead. And as much as I love Krem, I don't think we will see him either.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Oct 2, 2017 19:08:24 GMT
Anyway, these are my immediate ideas and speculations. Who and what would like to see in the next game? The Inquisitor as the protagonist.
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Post by shinary on Oct 2, 2017 19:14:42 GMT
Cole... I don't think we will see him. Because the decision to make him fully human or spirit is too big to be dealt with so that the fourth game adequately recognizes this difference. Actually changing making him spirit or human doesn't change him that much, beyond the ability to make people forget him. But he is really the only companion I can see returning as another companion. Which wouldn't be the biggest issue in terms of his character. He still wants to help and he still maintains most of his abilities. People seeing him actually seems to be the only real difference that occurs as a result. Dorian: Will definitely see him in some capacity, but I doubt as a companion Vivienne: She would have no reason to be in Tevinter. Sera: Same as "Viv", but she is also hated by a lot of fans. (I can tolerate her) Blackwall: could be dead Varric: Was already in two games and is the viscount of Kirkwall Bull: Could be dead Cassandra: Seriously doubt it, as she could be divine Solas: .... nope Which leaves us with Cole. All we know is that he either travels the road with the bard or vanishes back to the fade until "He can be where people hurt the most" - as well as hints as to him wanting to comfort Solas. As I see it, IF they continue with transferring a companion from the previous game to the next one, then he seems the most likely. Though, if they do a 180 and give us Shale from DA:O I won't complain
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Post by shinary on Oct 2, 2017 19:20:49 GMT
Anyway, these are my immediate ideas and speculations. Who and what would like to see in the next game? The Inquisitor as the protagonist. That would be nice, but I am 99.1% certain that they won't. 1. A one armed protagonist might be screwed. 2. They have never done it before. 3. I think it got confirmed somewhere that they would always make new protagonists for each installment in the series. Now that being said, I do hope they bring the inquisitor back, like with Hawke, but with the option to control them in certain phases of the game. If a Lavellan, who romanced Solas for example, tries to redeem him I think it would be nice if it was the player who decided their reaction to him. One thing that bother me about DA:I was how Hawke would always be so down on blood magic. What about the people who played as a blood mage?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2017 19:21:45 GMT
I will be okay if none of the companions from DA3 retirns tbh. It is set in Tevinter, after all, and the fresh team would be cool. Folks mentioned Fenris as a potential cameo as well, since slaves+Tevinter, despite a chance of being dead. Honestly, it's all fine as long as there are not more than one or two returning characters, as imo the game needs new blood/feel/mood & we already inherited a frenemy.
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Post by shinary on Oct 2, 2017 19:28:08 GMT
I will be okay if none of the companions from DA3 retirns tbh. It is set in Tevinter, after all, and the fresh team would be cool. Folks mentioned Fenris as a potential cameo as well, since slaves+Tevinter, despite a chance of being dead. Honestly, it's all fine as long as there are not more than one or two returning characters, as imo the game needs new blood/feel/mood & we already inherited a frenemy. I wouldn't mind this terribly, but I doubt if the previous installments are any indication. If the next Dragon Age is an actual DA4. If it is a spin-off as some have theorized, then an entirely new crew wouldn't be that unlikely.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Oct 2, 2017 19:29:12 GMT
The Inquisitor as the protagonist. That would be nice, but I am 99.1% certain that they won't. 1. A one armed protagonist might be screwed. 2. They have never done it before. 3. I think it got confirmed somewhere that they would always make new protagonists for each installment in the series. Now that being said, I do hope they bring the inquisitor back, like with Hawke, but with the option to control them in certain phases of the game. If a Lavellan, who romanced Solas for example, tries to redeem him I think it would be nice if it was the player who decided their reaction to him. One thing that bother me about DA:I was how Hawke would always be so down on blood magic. What about the people who played as a blood mage? To address your points. 1. They could always give the Inquisitor a prosthetic limb. In our own medieval history we have cases where people had prosthetic hands and could still do things like ride horses, fight in battles, and even write and we didn't have the engineering prowess of the dwarves or qunari and of course magic. Bioware has even played around with the idea, as The Iron Bull was originally going to have a prosthetic arm. It even gives the perfect reason for the Inquisitor to start back at Level 1. 2. True they have never done it before but then they've never had a setup like they had at the end of Trespasser before. There is so much potential there that would be lost if we play as some new person. Add to that that DAI was originally going to have twice the content but they cut the second half out and it's possible that the second half will be DA4. 3. They have said though that is certain circumstances occur they may drop that rule they set for themselves temporarily. The Inquisitor becoming a NPC would be the worst thing for me. Bioware always ruin player characters when they become NPCs. They ruined Revan and Hawke, and I don't want to see my favorite protagonist suffer the same fate. Dual-protagonist I wouldn't mind, with Inquisitor doing the Solas story and a new PC doing the Qun-Tevinter War.
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Post by smilesja on Oct 2, 2017 19:30:18 GMT
I believe Dorian will return since the DA4 is most likely set in Tevinter.
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Post by shinary on Oct 2, 2017 19:32:01 GMT
That would be nice, but I am 99.1% certain that they won't. 1. A one armed protagonist might be screwed. 2. They have never done it before. 3. I think it got confirmed somewhere that they would always make new protagonists for each installment in the series. Now that being said, I do hope they bring the inquisitor back, like with Hawke, but with the option to control them in certain phases of the game. If a Lavellan, who romanced Solas for example, tries to redeem him I think it would be nice if it was the player who decided their reaction to him. One thing that bother me about DA:I was how Hawke would always be so down on blood magic. What about the people who played as a blood mage? The Inquisitor becoming a NPC would be the worst thing for me. Bioware always ruin player characters when they become NPCs. They ruined Revan and Hawke, and I don't want to see my favorite protagonist suffer the same fate. Dual-protagonist I wouldn't mind, with Inquisitor doing the Solas story and a new PC doing the Qun-Tevinter War. I love this idea and I'd love to see it. Could be done like with Geralt and Ciri in Witcher 3. I still doubt it, but I would love to be proven wrong
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Post by ellehaym on Oct 2, 2017 21:59:56 GMT
I can see Calpurnia making a return, maybe even being a companion?
As another poster said, her fate is rather ambiguous. That and she not only had a short story written about her, but she also made a cameo appearance in Magekiller whose protagonist was her lover.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Oct 2, 2017 22:00:54 GMT
If Calpernia does return, I hope we can bring her to justice for all the atrocities she committed in DAI.
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Post by OhDaniGirl on Oct 2, 2017 22:44:15 GMT
The Inquisitor returning as the player character would be ideal for me. They are my favorite pc, and I think they could definitely do something cool with a prosthetic arm. I mean Dagna would be thrilled at the prospect of building a kickass arm.
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Post by mattjamho on Oct 3, 2017 14:41:02 GMT
If the story follows us going to Tevinter to hunt Solas, then I can't see any of the past companions returning to the party. As NPCs and advisers, sure, but we're supposed to be getting people Solas doesn't know.
I'd like to have both Maevaris and Calpernia as companions, they both represent what can become of a powerful mage in Tevinter. I'd like to see Marius as a companion, his and Calpernia's history would be interesting to explore, especially is they are no longer involved with each other. Plus he has a fighting style of killing mages that would make a good specialization.
As for the rest, I want all new characters. Tevinter is pretty far from Skyhold, seeing too many old faces makes the world seem small.
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Post by shinary on Oct 3, 2017 18:34:48 GMT
As for the rest, I want all new characters. Tevinter is pretty far from Skyhold, seeing too many old faces makes the world seem small. Oh, I don't think we will see a lot of them. But if they are staying true to their "trend", there will be one previous companion returning and one supporting character returning as well. So two characters we have seen before. (Oghren, Anders & Isabella, Varric & Cassandra) As for the distance, that has no relevance at all. In DA:O we get Zevran, who came all the way from Antiva and Sten who came all the way from Qunandar. I also think it is unlikely that the next story will start with "Everyone hunt down Solas!". I think we will start in the Tevinter/Qunari war and then go from there. Like we start having to sort out the Mage/Templar issue in the beginning of DA:I. Remember, it might be very few who actually believe that Fen'Harel is real. For all they know the Inquisitor has just invented him in order to remain in power. But I expect us to be getting mostly new characters, which I really want. As I said earlier, I think an Avar would be interesting. EDIT: Oh, and Merrill! Completely forgot about her. So yeah, based on past evidence we are most certainly going to see returning characters on the new team.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2017 22:45:40 GMT
I'd love to see Merrill back, but iirc she did not pass the "not killed previously" test. I am not sure, though. Frankly, if not her, Josephine as a party member will also appeal to me, though she was terrified of violence. So, perhaps a new female Antivan Crow instead, or even Josephine's kid sister we met at the ball out trying to adventure. It's been a while we had seen Skie type character.
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Post by Catilina on Oct 3, 2017 23:07:17 GMT
If Calpernia does return, I hope we can bring her to justice for all the atrocities she committed in DAI. Yes, probably Justice can help her to blow up the Magisterium and start a slave rebellion, what a great idea!
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Post by shinary on Oct 3, 2017 23:31:12 GMT
If Calpernia does return, I hope we can bring her to justice for all the atrocities she committed in DAI. Yes, probably Justice can help her to blow up the Magisterium and start a slave rebellion, what a great idea! Well, to be perfectly fair, we do need a mage to betray us in the next game. Might as well be her
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Post by numphet on Oct 9, 2017 6:06:39 GMT
I know this is far-fetched, but I'd like to see Jowan (from Origins) again. I've always felt his story didn't do him justice. While he's dead in (probably?) most world states, I like to think that Alexius' meddling with time magic in Redcliffe castle, where Jowan may have been executed, could have somehow brought him back. Maybe he could have joined rebel mages or even Venatori and thus ended up in Tevinter. I'd like to see seasoned and more confident (and preferably romanceable :'D) version of him. Not gonna happen, but a girl can always dream, yes?
More seriously, I think we'll see Dorian, but maybe not as a companion. If DA4 will have a recurring companion as the previous games have, I hope it will be Cole.
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Post by rowrow on Oct 9, 2017 23:23:43 GMT
People I'd like to see return as companions or non-companions: I would love to see Maevaris in any capacity. If she's a companion I'll let out a bloodcurdling scream Dorian has to come back. I'll be legit mad if he's not around. I want him in my party, too. Returning companion, please. Calpurnia is really interesting, I'd love her to be a companion. She won't actually be known by all players, but hey, that didn't stop Merril. I want Cole back, not as a companion again, but doing something. He can't be sitting things out while his pal Solas is messing with the world again. I'm not sure how they'd handle the human/spirit split though. I will cry tears of happiness if Cass is a companion again. Yes, I know it's impossible. :sob: I also want to see Sten. Not in my party, god no. But ... around, Arishok-ing, and being annoying. Fenris. I want to see him return to Tevinter and bust some heads. I don't even care whose! I'd be OK if Varric was around. Not as a companion. He'll likely be stuck in Kirkwall though. If we see him, it'd be nice to see Aveline too. Who I don't want back but probably will be back: Morrigan.
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Post by Catilina on Oct 9, 2017 23:38:42 GMT
People I'd like to see return as companions or non-companions: I would love to see Maevaris in any capacity. If she's a companion I'll let out a bloodcurdling scream Dorian has to come back. I'll be legit mad if he's not around. I want him in my party, too. Returning companion, please. Calpurnia is really interesting, I'd love her to be a companion. She won't actually be known by all players, but hey, that didn't stop Merril. I want Cole back, not as a companion again, but doing something. He can't be sitting things out while his pal Solas is messing with the world again. I'm not sure how they'd handle the human/spirit split though. I will cry tears of happiness if Cass is a companion again. Yes, I know it's impossible. I also want to see Sten. Not in my party, god no. But ... around, Arishok-ing, and being annoying. Fenris. I want to see him return to Tevinter and bust some heads. I don't even care whose!I'd be OK if Varric was around. Not as a companion. He'll likely be stuck in Kirkwall though. If we see him, it'd be nice to see Aveline too. Who I don't want back but probably will be back: Morrigan. Dorian's...
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