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Post by linksocarina on Nov 14, 2017 13:34:12 GMT
Downvoting and criticizing EA is now considered the equivalent of harrassment? O.o They lose all credibility the minute assholes threaten people over a game disk. It is too common to dismiss one's critics by lumping them in with bad actors, or by equivocating criticism with bullying. In this case, if EA has publicly stated the price decrease is in any way related to developers being harassed, they have done something horrible to themselves and their customers. Not even talking about reddit users. Talking about the other shit surrounding this.
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Post by reighto on Nov 14, 2017 14:50:07 GMT
They just removed the refund button on their homepage because too many people were refunding it.
Edit: Seems like now you have to get in contact with the customer service.
https://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/7cv8hc/ea_removed_the_refund_button_on_their_webpage_and/
https://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/7ct7j5/at_least_ea_customer_service_knows_the_score/
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Post by Jeremiah12LGeek on Nov 14, 2017 15:16:36 GMT
Downvoting and criticizing EA is now considered the equivalent of harrassment? O.o It is too common to dismiss one's critics by lumping them in with bad actors, or by equivocating criticism with bullying. In this case, if EA has publicly stated the price decrease is in any way related to developers being harassed, they have done something horrible to themselves and their customers. Not even talking about reddit users. Talking about the other shit surrounding this. It really reads like you're talking about reddit users and the gaming community. Possibly because you actually used the phrase "the gaming community" when responding to comments about the reddit thread. I'm not sure you followed the entire subtext of biscuit's comment, since he was criticizing them not only for caving to trolls, but to publicly responding to the community as though the trolls were their representatives, rather than being a few anonymous bad actors. Let me put it this way, if you're not blaming the gaming community or reddit users for what you see as a superstitious throng prone to rioting, who exactly were you blaming? O.o
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Post by Jeremiah12LGeek on Nov 14, 2017 15:22:54 GMT
I try to avoid reveling in schadenfreude too much, but I genuinely hope Battlefront II is a disaster. The only way we'll see any change is if it dramatically under-performs. But, realistically, it's far more likely to be very successful. Particularly because of the hefty micro-transaction pricetags. It only takes a small number of people paying enormous amounts of money to make up for the few of us that will take an actual pass on buying the game. Again, maybe true in the abstract but the consumers are mobilizing in an unprecedented way this time. The sheer numbers are suggesting millions in losses. I'm admittedly pessimistic when it comes to the industry, but my suspicion is that the microtransactions and content paywall will end up successfully paying for the losses and then some. That having been said, it obviously wasn't enough to keep ME:A MP plugged in, so here's hoping that I'm wrong.
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Post by Hrungr on Nov 14, 2017 15:25:11 GMT
They just removed the refund button on their homepage because too many people were refunding it. Edit: Seems like now you have to get in contact with the customer service. https://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/7cv8hc/ea_removed_the_refund_button_on_their_webpage_and/ https://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/7ct7j5/at_least_ea_customer_service_knows_the_score/ Whaaa? Seriously??
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Post by Vortex13 on Nov 14, 2017 15:30:04 GMT
Sound like the campaign mode is pretty short, about how long does it run in terms of hours? Any good set pieces to play around in at least?
Also, how's the reviews looking; after the whole debacle with the loot boxes and hero locking I can't imagine it's going to be good.
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Post by Hrungr on Nov 14, 2017 15:31:54 GMT
Polygon touched on the BF outrage this morning...Why your Battlefront 2 outrage is a compliment to EA (and how to use it effectively) www.polygon.com/2017/11/14/16648582/star-wars-battlefront-2-loot-box-ea-outrageOn a related note, this kinda walks hand-in-hand with big publishers being perfectly fine with the narrative that they the studios are the "good guys" and the publishers are the "bad guys" who are "forcing" these MT/LB practices on the studios' games. The truth is often a lot more muddy however.
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Post by linksocarina on Nov 14, 2017 15:48:00 GMT
Not even talking about reddit users. Talking about the other shit surrounding this. It really reads like you're talking about reddit users and the gaming community. Possibly because you actually used the phrase "the gaming community" when responding to comments about the reddit thread. I'm not sure you followed the entire subtext of biscuit's comment, since he was criticizing them not only for caving to trolls, but to publicly responding to the community as though the trolls were their representatives, rather than being a few anonymous bad actors. Let me put it this way, if you're not blaming the gaming community or reddit users for what you see as a superstitious throng prone to rioting, who exactly were you blaming? O.o I like how you try to seperate bad actors from the gaming community when they are one in the same most of the time. The criticism is towards the community for such complacency of that behavior by their own members. It's bad enough that people in the community act like idiots to begin with, but the sort of circling of the wagons to protect them by a large portion of the crowd is so maddening to me. There is already an over sensitive sort of streak going on with people as it is, for whatever reason folks have a chip on their shoulder when it comes to games. Events like this just exacerbate that behavior, and like clockwork it seems that the community encourages it by being silent 9 times out of 10 or worse, by joining the bandwagon in the most negative ways possible. Bains criticism is more than just companies responding to trolls, it's the fact that the community is full of them and they are the face of us all. Maybe that should stop, as with this "bad actors" shtick. We need to own that and act accordingly, meaning cutting them put as the face so to speak, and not pretend they are outsiders looking in.
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Post by shinobiwan on Nov 14, 2017 15:48:27 GMT
Sound like the campaign mode is pretty short, about how long does it run in terms of hours? Any good set pieces to play around in at least? Also, how's the reviews looking; after the whole debacle with the loot boxes and hero locking I can't imagine it's going to be good. Gamespot gave it a tentative 6/10 - same as MEA.
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Post by smilesja on Nov 14, 2017 15:52:58 GMT
*sigh* Who's the bludy writer? I change my mind, I'm not buying this. My guess is that they put in SP because of the complaints there was none in the first one. From the looks of it, there isn't much investment put into the story and chars. There's not much substance, just a lot of dumping into battlegrounds very quickly and very fast point to point completion in other parts. I believe the writer was the same guy who wrote Spec Ops: the line.
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Post by smilesja on Nov 14, 2017 15:53:59 GMT
Sound like the campaign mode is pretty short, about how long does it run in terms of hours? Any good set pieces to play around in at least? Also, how's the reviews looking; after the whole debacle with the loot boxes and hero locking I can't imagine it's going to be good. If it’s 7 or above then expect accusations of paid reviews.
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Post by Vortex13 on Nov 14, 2017 15:55:42 GMT
Sound like the campaign mode is pretty short, about how long does it run in terms of hours? Any good set pieces to play around in at least? Also, how's the reviews looking; after the whole debacle with the loot boxes and hero locking I can't imagine it's going to be good. Gamespot gave it a tentative 6/10 - same as MEA. 6? That's better than I would have expected to be honest. So with an 'average' review does this mean that EA is going to cut any and all DLC plans for the future of this title as well?
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Post by Vortex13 on Nov 14, 2017 15:57:53 GMT
Sound like the campaign mode is pretty short, about how long does it run in terms of hours? Any good set pieces to play around in at least? Also, how's the reviews looking; after the whole debacle with the loot boxes and hero locking I can't imagine it's going to be good. If it’s 7 or above then expect accusations of paid reviews. All of the crap with MT and general EA tomfoolery aside, I would personally rate the game, based on the bit I played of the beta, to be a 6-7; maybe a 7.5 if you could actually play split screen in both campaign and online MP. EDIT: Oh and if the game shipped with a Galactic Conquest mode, I would have bumped up my rating of the title another .25 points
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Post by Obsidian Gryphon on Nov 14, 2017 16:09:34 GMT
*sigh* Who's the bludy writer? I change my mind, I'm not buying this. My guess is that they put in SP because of the complaints there was none in the first one. From the looks of it, there isn't much investment put into the story and chars. There's not much substance, just a lot of dumping into battlegrounds very quickly and very fast point to point completion in other parts. I believe the writer was the same guy who wrote Spec Ops: the line. I don't think I've played that game. Or maybe, if it has anything to do with Dubai and someone rabbiting out of his mind. I never finished it. Whatever. There's no meat in the story and chars of SW BF II. The lack of context is ridiculous. They just can't be bothered to set things up properly. You're being herded and dumped from one pew pew pew to the next pew pew pew (x 100) That's what SW BF II is, pew x 1000.
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Post by shinobiwan on Nov 14, 2017 16:16:56 GMT
It really reads like you're talking about reddit users and the gaming community. Possibly because you actually used the phrase "the gaming community" when responding to comments about the reddit thread. I'm not sure you followed the entire subtext of biscuit's comment, since he was criticizing them not only for caving to trolls, but to publicly responding to the community as though the trolls were their representatives, rather than being a few anonymous bad actors. Let me put it this way, if you're not blaming the gaming community or reddit users for what you see as a superstitious throng prone to rioting, who exactly were you blaming? O.o I like how you try to seperate bad actors from the gaming community when they are one in the same most of the time. The criticism is towards the community for such complacency of that behavior by their own members. It's bad enough that people in the community act like idiots to begin with, but the sort of circling of the wagons to protect them by a large portion of the crowd is so maddening to me. There is already an over sensitive sort of streak going on with people as it is, for whatever reason folks have a chip on their shoulder when it comes to games. Events like this just exacerbate that behavior, and like clockwork it seems that the community encourages it by being silent 9 times out of 10 or worse, by joining the bandwagon in the most negative ways possible. Bains criticism is more than just companies responding to trolls, it's the fact that the community is full of them and they are the face of us all. Maybe that should stop, as with this "bad actors" shtick. We need to own that and act accordingly, meaning cutting them put as the face so to speak, and not pretend they are outsiders looking in. What in the fuck? So say a company is dumping toxic chemicals into a town, causing serious health problems to the residents. Two residents are deranged psychopaths and run off and murder someone in the company. The town puts them to trial and sentences them to life in prison. Nonetheless, by your logic, we can ignore the legitimate cries of the town and let the company continue to harm the residents because two of the residents did something bad? Up to seven people in the bf2 community (no clue if they came from Reddit) are deranged and deserve criminal sanctions. That in no way reflects on the community at large. They disavowed their actions and it's unrelated to the underlying problems in any event.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Nov 14, 2017 16:24:54 GMT
I've been loving it so far. Love the story, love the characters, love the gameplay.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Nov 14, 2017 16:32:10 GMT
Gamespot gave it a tentative 6/10 - same as MEA. 6? That's better than I would have expected to be honest. So with an 'average' review does this mean that EA is going to cut any and all DLC plans for the future of this title as well? I hope not.
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Post by linksocarina on Nov 14, 2017 16:35:57 GMT
I like how you try to seperate bad actors from the gaming community when they are one in the same most of the time. The criticism is towards the community for such complacency of that behavior by their own members. It's bad enough that people in the community act like idiots to begin with, but the sort of circling of the wagons to protect them by a large portion of the crowd is so maddening to me. There is already an over sensitive sort of streak going on with people as it is, for whatever reason folks have a chip on their shoulder when it comes to games. Events like this just exacerbate that behavior, and like clockwork it seems that the community encourages it by being silent 9 times out of 10 or worse, by joining the bandwagon in the most negative ways possible. Bains criticism is more than just companies responding to trolls, it's the fact that the community is full of them and they are the face of us all. Maybe that should stop, as with this "bad actors" shtick. We need to own that and act accordingly, meaning cutting them put as the face so to speak, and not pretend they are outsiders looking in. What in the fuck? So say a company is dumping toxic chemicals into a town, causing serious health problems to the residents. Two residents are deranged psychopaths and run off and murder someone in the company. The town puts them to trial and sentences them to life in prison. Nonetheless, by your logic, we can ignore the legitimate cries of the town and let the company continue to harm the residents because two of the residents did something bad? Up to seven people in the bf2 community (no clue if they came from Reddit) are deranged and deserve criminal sanctions. That in no way reflects on the community at large. They disavowed their actions and it's unrelated to the underlying problems in any event. Actually by my logic, the town would be able to get their point across with the toxic chemicals without becoming psychopaths. Plus the way you worded that is like saying the behavior of people threatening to kill folks over a video game is because the game company itself caused it to happen. that's almost victim blaming in a weird, perverted way. See, i'm glad they disavowed such actions, that's good. But here's the problem: they still are the face. They still get the headlines, the clickbaiting, and attention. It doesn't matter if it's one or one-hundred in that way. And while many condemn it, others are very blase about it for their own reasons which gives it more power. That is what I have a problem with. We should be more of a hive mind on that behavior and make it unrelated to the problems. But we shouldn't be afraid to call the spade what it is. These are people in our community, regardless of how we disavow them we need to own that to change that.
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Post by Jeremiah12LGeek on Nov 14, 2017 16:36:06 GMT
I like how you try to seperate bad actors from the gaming community How dare I. I like how you try to seperate bad actors from the gaming community when they are one in the same most of the time. The criticism is towards the community for such complacency of that behavior by their own members. There are so many logic problems in just those two sentences that I'm actually having a hard time picking a couple to focus on. 1 - Blaming an entire community for the actions of a few is generally regarded as a form a bigotry. 2 - Claiming communities are responsible for stopping all possible bad behaviour of everyone in that community is also regarded as a form of bigotry. Neither of those techniques is productive, because they eschew individual responsibility in favour of collective responsibility while denying personal responsibility. It's bad enough that people in the community act like idiots to begin with, but the sort of circling of the wagons to protect them by a large portion of the crowd is so maddening to me. What "circling of the wagons" are you talking about? Protecting whom? O.o There is already an over sensitive sort of streak going on with people as it is, for whatever reason folks have a chip on their shoulder when it comes to games. Mhmm. Events like this just exacerbate that behavior, and like clockwork it seems that the community encourages it by being silent 9 times out of 10 or worse, by joining the bandwagon in the most negative ways possible. Events like what? What are you talking about? Criticism? Down-voting? Why would I speak out against criticism? Why would anyone? There's nothing wrong with it. Bains criticism is more than just companies responding to trolls, it's the fact that the community is full of them and they are the face of us all. He referred to them as anonymous trolls, which quite literally means the opposite of calling them the face of the community. You didn't understand his comment at all. Maybe that should stop, as with this "bad actors" shtick. We need to own that and act accordingly, meaning cutting them put as the face so to speak, and not pretend they are outsiders looking in. Well, have fun on your holy crusade against the evils of criticizing content paywalls. It doesn't seem like an insane over-reaction at all.
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Post by Jeremiah12LGeek on Nov 14, 2017 16:40:01 GMT
*snip* So say a company is dumping toxic chemicals into a town, causing serious health problems to the residents. Two residents are deranged psychopaths and run off and murder someone in the company. *snip* Actually by my logic, the town would be able to get their point across with the toxic chemicals without becoming psychopaths. For heaven's sake, shinobiwan just finished saying two people were psychopaths and you interpreted that to represent the whole town becoming psychopaths? Well, at least it provided a measure of insight into how you see the world. O.O
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Post by linksocarina on Nov 14, 2017 16:40:52 GMT
I like how you try to seperate bad actors from the gaming community How dare I. I like how you try to seperate bad actors from the gaming community when they are one in the same most of the time. The criticism is towards the community for such complacency of that behavior by their own members. There are so many logical problems in just those two sentences that I'm actually having a hard time picking a couple to focus on. 1 - Blaming an entire community for the actions of a few is generally regarded as a form a bigotry. 2 - Claiming communities are responsible for stopping all possible bad behaviour of everyone in that community is also regarded as a form of bigotry. Neither of those techniques is productive, because they eschew individual responsibility in favour of collective responsibility while denying personal responsibility. It's bad enough that people in the community act like idiots to begin with, but the sort of circling of the wagons to protect them by a large portion of the crowd is so maddening to me. What "circling of the wagons" are you talking about? Protecting whom? O.o There is already an over sensitive sort of streak going on with people as it is, for whatever reason folks have a chip on their shoulder when it comes to games. Mhmm. Events like this just exacerbate that behavior, and like clockwork it seems that the community encourages it by being silent 9 times out of 10 or worse, by joining the bandwagon in the most negative ways possible. Events like what? What are you talking about? Criticism? Down-voting? Why would I speak out against criticism? Why would anyone? There's nothing wrong with it. Bains criticism is more than just companies responding to trolls, it's the fact that the community is full of them and they are the face of us all. He referred to them as anonymous trolls, which quite literally means the opposite of calling them the face of the community. You didn't understand his comment at all. Maybe that should stop, as with this "bad actors" shtick. We need to own that and act accordingly, meaning cutting them put as the face so to speak, and not pretend they are outsiders looking in. Well, have fun on your holy crusade against the evils of criticizing content paywalls. It doesn't seem like an insane over-reaction at all. You still missed the point. The issue is not about paywalls, in fact that issue is interchangeable because it can be about anything that is rightfully a problem. It's about the gaming community being embarrassing time and again over some sort of slight, and then moving onto the next outrage with the same behavior. I would hope we can do better. I guess I have the right to hope.
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Post by Iakus on Nov 14, 2017 16:41:43 GMT
It really reads like you're talking about reddit users and the gaming community. Possibly because you actually used the phrase "the gaming community" when responding to comments about the reddit thread. I'm not sure you followed the entire subtext of biscuit's comment, since he was criticizing them not only for caving to trolls, but to publicly responding to the community as though the trolls were their representatives, rather than being a few anonymous bad actors. Let me put it this way, if you're not blaming the gaming community or reddit users for what you see as a superstitious throng prone to rioting, who exactly were you blaming? O.o I like how you try to seperate bad actors from the gaming community when they are one in the same most of the time. The criticism is towards the community for such complacency of that behavior by their own members. Wait, isn't that exactly what you want? To separate the "bad actors" from the rest of the community with legitimate grievances? The trolls are the minority, the loudmouths who take things too far. They are not the gaming community as a whole. All terriers are dogs, but not all dogs are terriers.
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Post by linksocarina on Nov 14, 2017 16:43:12 GMT
Actually by my logic, the town would be able to get their point across with the toxic chemicals without becoming psychopaths. For heaven's sake, shinobiwan just finished saying two people were psychopaths and you interpreted that to represent the whole town becoming psychopaths? Well, at least it provided a measure of insight into how you see the world. O.O That's an appeal to emotion to distract from the point of the argument. You also put words in my mouth again. Don't do that, that actually annoys me.
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Post by Iakus on Nov 14, 2017 16:43:32 GMT
The issue is not about paywalls, in fact that issue is interchangeable because it can be about anything that is rightfully a problem. It's about the gaming community being embarrassing time and again over some sort of slight, and then moving onto the next outrage with the same behavior. I would hope we can do better. I guess I have the right to hope. Until and angry crowd of demonstrates wearing pink hats appears outside EA headquarters, I'm not going to get too worried over the community embarrassing itself
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Post by linksocarina on Nov 14, 2017 16:46:45 GMT
I like how you try to seperate bad actors from the gaming community when they are one in the same most of the time. The criticism is towards the community for such complacency of that behavior by their own members. Wait, isn't that exactly what you want? To separate the "bad actors" from the rest of the community with legitimate grievances? The trolls are the minority, the loudmouths who take things too far. They are not the gaming community as a whole. All terriers are dogs, but not all dogs are terriers. I want us to own the fact that a lot of people in our community suck, so to speak. When we do that, we can then work at making it better I feel. Unfortunately, the more I see the less I believe it's a minority now a days. At least when it comes to most online interactions as of late. I want to be proven wrong, but most of the time I just don't see it.
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