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Post by ComedicSociopathy on Nov 26, 2017 22:52:00 GMT
I'm gonna say the Kett. As villains they really are the worst and mess with MEA's light-hearted exploration theme.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2017 23:18:40 GMT
Kett. They did little to nothing to put themselves out as a major threat that needed dealing with. What the previous games did so well was that they made you invested in the villains. I didn't get that with the Kett.
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Post by 10k on Nov 26, 2017 23:32:42 GMT
I would remove ryder. I think if we had a protagonist with an actual personality, I'd enjoy the game more I think. Every dialogue option sound exactly the same, it was just the tone in the delivery which was different.
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Post by bohemiadrinker on Nov 26, 2017 23:39:24 GMT
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Post by midnightwolf on Nov 26, 2017 23:42:22 GMT
I'm gonna say the Kett. As villains they really are the worst and mess with MEA's light-hearted exploration theme.+1. Plus, once you clear an area of them, they come back. What's the bloody point? But then, open world and respawn never were Bioware/EA's best vocations.
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Post by cypherj on Nov 27, 2017 1:30:11 GMT
I really want to say the Kett because they failed as villains on so many levels, but I'm going to go with something else.
Vaults: Totally unnecessary, the go to a planet activate three vaults and raise the viability just got old quick. The game would have been much better off with each planet having its own unique issue stopping you from colonizing it. You could have discovered the Angarans on one planet, made first contact and then had to engage in some diplomacy, politics. You could have still had the situation on Kadara be another. A planet could have had a non-humanoid life form that was aggressive. Then you could have either found a way to compromise and co-exist or just gone straight conquerer and wiped them out.
But if you had to have vaults, you could have had one planet where the vault was malfunctioning and activated it. Which could have led you to look further into the tech and still lead you to the realization that the cluster was created by an advanced race who also created the Angarans.
But that's only if you absolutely had to have them for the story. I would have done away with them all together. Then the game could have focused more on you actually being a Pathfinder and not a vault activator as you would first on the ground on most of these planets ascertaining the situation and working to find a solution so you could start a colony.
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Post by Steelcan on Nov 27, 2017 1:42:19 GMT
There's nothing that can really be done to save the game by just changing one element. However I went for the Angara, they're unimaginative, cliche riddled, uninteresting, and offer nothing new the table
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Post by Felya87 on Nov 27, 2017 1:46:20 GMT
Alec Ryder, or at least his death. Thanks to his face we had (probably) a very restrictive CC, plus he dies at mission N° 1, and there isn't even some kind of funeral or actually goodbye or a body. I wasn't attached to him, I didn't have the chance to interact with him enought to be. Plus it was terribly clichè.
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Post by Shinobu on Nov 27, 2017 1:55:05 GMT
I'd remove the Outcasts. Killing them was illogical because it was detrimental to the survival/genetic diversity of the initiative. Yet we were forced to kill them despite learning their psychosis was caused by being in cryo and Lexi had the makings of a cure. By the end of the game my Ryder had killed what felt like an ark's worth. I took to just driving by and not stopping because it felt stupid to fight them.
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Post by Otter on Nov 27, 2017 1:55:30 GMT
Remove all romance content, and instead give us a 90-second fully cinematic short of Grunt playing with dinosaur and spaceship action figures and making laser sounds with his mouth.
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Post by stealthfox94 on Nov 27, 2017 2:22:24 GMT
Something else (Roekaar). I also would have dramatically changed the way vaults worked.
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Post by warrior on Nov 27, 2017 3:24:46 GMT
Remove the Kett and especially the Archon and replace them with something scarier and more urgent. If the villain suitably motivates me, I can more easily overlook other issues.
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Post by pessimistpanda on Nov 27, 2017 3:31:14 GMT
FUCKING JILL
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Post by beelzebub on Nov 27, 2017 4:53:06 GMT
The ancient aliens plot hook. We've been there, done that. I realize that would probably mean retooling the motivations of all the factions in the game, but that would probably be for the best.
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Post by isaidlunch on Nov 27, 2017 6:02:22 GMT
I'd cut Liam and replace him with a character that isn't severely mentally disabled.
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Post by Ahriman on Nov 27, 2017 7:50:33 GMT
Remnant/vault gimmick. Press the button - fix a planet - repeat. Cheap, deus-ex y (sorry for that word) and unrewarding. Not to mention a little detail - scourge supposedly broke these planets because it's attracted to remtech and we fix it by activating, that's right, remtech. What could possibly go wrong? I would remove ryder. I think if we had a protagonist with an actual personality, I'd enjoy the game more I think. Every dialogue option sound exactly the same, it was just the tone in the delivery which was different. But that's the thing, they had personality. As you say yourself in next sentence this personality is pretty much there no matter what you do.
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Post by KaiserShep on Nov 27, 2017 7:51:44 GMT
Alec Ryder, or at least his death. Thanks to his face we had (probably) a very restrictive CC, plus he dies at mission N° 1, and there isn't even some kind of funeral or actually goodbye or a body. I wasn't attached to him, I didn't have the chance to interact with him enought to be. Plus it was terribly clichè. You can't really blame the CC's restrictions on Alec. Nothing really prevented BioWare from allowing more options and control over the shape of each preset. If anything, the game could have allowed us to customize Alec along with the sibling, and we decide for ourselves what likeness we like for the family members. Bio simply chose to simplify the whole thing.
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Post by mannyray on Nov 27, 2017 10:13:07 GMT
I chose the Kett not because we didn't need an antagonist, but said antagonist needed to be better. I've said it before. They're just Borg and their leader is a big babyhead emoji that broods. Oh, and we're supposed to believe that a ring fashioned in a circle out of his skullbone is natural and not machined on a lathe or otherwise carved. The list goes on with the Kett. If I could choose another thing, I'd say the corny firefly humor. I'm not saying eliminate levity, but the story was written seemingly by people who apparently have little experience in the world beyond working with other kids at gamestop.
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Post by Pounce de León on Nov 27, 2017 10:34:25 GMT
I didn't really like the Angarans. They are so happy family like. But Pibbi is actually worse. I'd rather have the story about benefactor and sabotage on the nexus finished.
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Post by themikefest on Nov 27, 2017 13:52:32 GMT
remove the asari and replace them with quarians/drell/vorcha remove the frozen mother popsicle and have father Ryder survive remove the stowaway and replace her with no one remove the tempest for a bigger ship so that the krogan doesn't have to be in the kitchen and the stowaway isn't with the escape pod remove the car and replace it with a shuttle remove Kosta and replace him with either Greer or Kirkland remove Reyes and replace him with Zia remove the implant for the sam voice thing and have the sam thing available through the omnitool if Ryder doesn't let the krogan have the drive core, Ryder gets an option to put a 2nd outpost on Eos or Voeld remove the angaran and replace them with a species know as the Unga Bunga. They have 4 arms, 3 legs and 3 eyes remove Cora's commando dialogue and replace it with dialogue with her talking more about the alliance, gardening and sports especially football when at the bar on Kadara for the first time, Ryder orders a Bud light and says "dilly, dilly" Everyone in the bar yells "DILLY, DILLY" remove MEA and replace it with a sequel to ME3
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2017 14:00:08 GMT
I would have kept the Nexus uprising as a part of the game, and would have cut off Voeld and Eladeen and focused the first part of the game on the internecine strife around Nexus and Kadara, and let Ryder chose which faction he belongs with, and divide the rest of the game (now only consisting of Habitat 7, Aya, Havarl, Eos and Remnant Territories) and dealings with Angara and Kett from that faction's perspective. I would have settled Krogans in the Kadara's badlands instead of Eladeen.
I would have made a clearer replacement of the Achron with the Primarch as the central villain, allowing the Kett story to develop a little further even if the last battle is still being fought with the Archon.
I would have replaced Gil, the Human Engineer with a Quarian Engineer and expanded on his story to give his interest in eventual procreation a bit of a different, more theoretical and poignant twist, given that the Quarians did not arrive & taking pressure off Ryder. It is not a big thing in the grand scheme of things, but I would have liked that very much.
Another small alteration I would have liked is Liam's Kosta's ethnicity being Asian rather than Black or being able to recruit the slum doctor from Kadara as the Tempest's field medic. I am a bit tired of Asians being barred from the crew.
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Post by LogicGunn on Nov 27, 2017 14:37:49 GMT
The only thing I would remove is the open world design. But I'd improve some things, like the Kett would be more alien and much scarier.
I wouldn't change characters or plot, I don't expect to like all the characters in a game and I think disliking a character is as valid as liking them.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2017 14:52:00 GMT
remove Andromeda from the equation and set it in a post reaper milky way.
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Post by jamiecotc on Nov 27, 2017 21:35:17 GMT
Remove every fetch quest from the game and replace them with more time spent on developing the world, the characters, the animation, and the plot. Aside from that, remove the Kett completely, rework the Angarans so they are more complex, spend the game either working with them to coexist or against them to conquer the cluster.
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Post by anarchy65 on Nov 27, 2017 23:38:34 GMT
It's not really about what should be removed, but what should be added. The game is very poor on new races and characters. Between kett, angara and squadmates, I can't decide which are more useless
I think I would remove Liam because he is the worst character ever written by Bioware and replace him with a mute-deaf human
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