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Post by jpcab on Dec 31, 2017 22:56:56 GMT
The sooner they bury this the better. After an iconic trilogy game, story and character ..to allow this thing is unbelievable to my eyes at least. Years for this? Are they blind? They really thought it was this Ryders we wanted after Shepard? Unbelievable
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Post by kino on Jan 1, 2018 16:22:12 GMT
Yeah, I can believe the petition's still going strong. I doubt we'll see any DLC for ME:A but it can't hurt to have the petition continue on and show that there is a customer base for future Andromeda stories.
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Post by zan on Jan 1, 2018 16:34:17 GMT
MEA in its current state is (IMO) no worse than DAI without added content. What it really needs is Trespasser-like DLC or expansion to make it great. Biggest issue with it were unreasonable expectations prior to launch (too many people wanting too many different things) and death-by-a-thousand-cuts launch. With most of the minor annoyances present on launch smoothed out, the game is actually a solid B+ or A-. Of course that means absolutely nothing to the suits in EA, so if we do see a continuation, it will not be for a long while.
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Post by OneWomanArmy on Jan 1, 2018 19:39:55 GMT
Why?!
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Post by link2twenty on Jan 1, 2018 23:15:29 GMT
How many 'signatures' do you think are legit, 60%, less?
I never really trust these numbers.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Jan 2, 2018 4:15:26 GMT
Yeah, I can believe the petition's still going strong. I doubt we'll see any DLC for ME:A but it can't hurt to have the petition continue on and show that there is a customer base for future Andromeda stories. Exactly
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Post by stealthfox94 on Jan 2, 2018 16:03:30 GMT
Highly unlikely obviously but stranger things have happened. Not in the corporate world. They're not an Indie company like Obsidian, who still support POE, even with a free mini DLC. Normally I'd agree, but EA has shown some major dents in its corporate armor lately.
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Post by uprightshark on Jan 2, 2018 16:40:20 GMT
I think Mass Effect will probably get revived sometime in the future, but no way in hell it'll be a direct MEA sequel. The game was a total and utter flop, and by the time they start working on the revival it will have been 5+ years in the past. Maybe it'll still take place in Andromeda, because the Milky Way is still pretty difficult to deal with writing-wise. But I doubt we'll see Ryder and all of his companions that barely anyone even cares about. This is coming from someone who likes Andromeda and would love a direct sequel. I just doubt its gunna happen. Unless you move that timeline up roughly 25-years in Andromeda, with the initiative well entrenched in Heleus and the characters you love today now the leaders and mentors of a new generation of heroes. The narrative can be written in such a way to filling the present gaps leading forward to the point that allows fluid transition. The beauty of science fiction is it truly is a blank slate. To me, as much as I enjoyed it, the Sheppard story is done and trying to resurrect it will never do the original creation justice. But there is allot of room to build on Andromeda and still avoid some the areas that needed improvement in the first installment. If we can't see beyond some of the MEA criticisms ourselves as the ME fans, it is pretty difficult to see why EA would allow Bioware to venture there again, as they will definitely not see the $$$$$ potential. We just need hope, vision and bug EA to death until the surrender ....
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Post by PillarBiter on Jan 3, 2018 7:42:31 GMT
definitely signed!
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Post by kotoreffect3 on Jan 4, 2018 16:06:19 GMT
As long as that douchebag that runs EA is running EA he will never let bioware support their single player centric titles again. The last thing we will ever get resembling the bioware we knew will be one last DA game and that game will probably get the same treatment as MEA. From here on out it is going to be games like Anthem that is given a priority in and for the first time in over a decade is a bioware game I have no interest in.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2018 4:36:35 GMT
Yeah, I can believe the petition's still going strong. I doubt we'll see any DLC for ME:A but it can't hurt to have the petition continue on and show that there is a customer base for future [EDIT: Andromeda] MASS EFFECT stories. I agree with everything you have said except for a continuing Andromeda or Ryder storyline. My dissing Andromeda is not meant to start an argument over MW vs Andro. A petition may be useful for BW/EA to digest, but I think this BSN site is loaded full with insightful and exceptional comments from rabid ME fans. If only BW/EA would listen c a r e f u l l y.
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Post by sil on Jan 5, 2018 11:05:54 GMT
Yeah, I can believe the petition's still going strong. I doubt we'll see any DLC for ME:A but it can't hurt to have the petition continue on and show that there is a customer base for future [EDIT: Andromeda] MASS EFFECT stories. I agree with everything you have said except for a continuing Andromeda or Ryder storyline. My dissing Andromeda is not meant to start an argument over MW vs Andro. A petition may be useful for BW/EA to digest, but I think this BSN site is loaded full with insightful and exceptional comments from rabid ME fans. If only BW/EA would listen c a r e f u l l y. Sadly BSN isn't really united on any elements, there are wildly varying opinions on all parts of ME:A. If Bioware came here to read the responses, then I imagine that they'd leave with more confusion than they had before. I'd be more than happy to see another Andromeda game or two, just to get a full storyline, before returning to the Milky Way. But whatever they do, I think they need to look at the core strengths and lesser strengths of each game and use those as a template for a future game: Mass Effect 1 Core Strengths = Expansive dialogue options, intriguing storyline Mass Effect 1 Lesser Strengths = Many planets to explore even if they are barren Mass Effect 2 Core Strengths = Interesting and diverse squad (diverse in terms of abilities and personalities, not political correctness), Suicide Mission Mass Effect 2 Lesser Strengths = Clean, unbloated research and upgrade system, random N7 maps to land on for unique missions Mass Effect 3 Core Strengths = Decisions have noticable consequences, high quality DLC, strong combat elements Mass Effect 3 Lesser Strengths = Hub that gives reason to return to it (Armax Arena), certain story arcs are very well written Mass Effect Trilogy Core Strength = Your decisions transfer to each game. Mass Effect Andromeda Core Strengths = Physics system that works well with refined combat, Vehicular exploration, final mission, combat customisation Mass Effect Andromeda Lesser Strengths = Loyalty missions were usually interesting, landable planets had enough quests to encourage you to return, beautiful galaxy map So what we need is for the next Mass Effect to have expansive dialogue options, interesting squad and an intriguing storyline where your decisions have noticeable consequences. It needs to have an unbloated research and upgrade system but allow for player customisation elements when crafting, while retaining the strong combat gameplay and physics that benefit them. It needs a beautiful galaxy map where you can land on a large number of diverse planets to do side missions and explore while having interesting loyalty missions and a lot of focused missions for the main story arc.It needs a hub you want to return to and a final mission that takes into account your main choices and the allies you've built up to create something epic. So... they're gonna need a big budget
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Post by abaris on Jan 5, 2018 16:02:07 GMT
MEA in its current state is (IMO) no worse than DAI without added content Depends on what you're looking for in a game, but for me MEA doesn't even hold a candle to DAI. Even without added content. The lead, the companions, the maps, the story, everything's better than what MEA provided.
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Post by The Hype Himself on Jan 5, 2018 17:20:24 GMT
I believe there's still a petition going on in getting MEA DLC. There's probably still one going on to get ME3's ending changed too, somewhere in the netherworld of internet discussion boards.
It's not going to change anything. Have fun with it though!
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Post by KaiserShep on Jan 8, 2018 6:33:49 GMT
MEA in its current state is (IMO) no worse than DAI without added content. What it really needs is Trespasser-like DLC or expansion to make it great. Biggest issue with it were unreasonable expectations prior to launch (too many people wanting too many different things) and death-by-a-thousand-cuts launch. With most of the minor annoyances present on launch smoothed out, the game is actually a solid B+ or A-. Of course that means absolutely nothing to the suits in EA, so if we do see a continuation, it will not be for a long while. I’d say DAI even without the added content is significantly better, partly because the game functioned more smoothly out the gate, but mainly because the entire thing is simply better written, from the story perspective and the central cast. The best-written characters in Andromeda don’t come close to the best of Inquisition.
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Post by colfoley on Jan 8, 2018 7:10:49 GMT
MEA in its current state is (IMO) no worse than DAI without added content. What it really needs is Trespasser-like DLC or expansion to make it great. Biggest issue with it were unreasonable expectations prior to launch (too many people wanting too many different things) and death-by-a-thousand-cuts launch. With most of the minor annoyances present on launch smoothed out, the game is actually a solid B+ or A-. Of course that means absolutely nothing to the suits in EA, so if we do see a continuation, it will not be for a long while. I’d say DAI even without the added content is significantly better, partly because the game functioned more smoothly out the gate, but mainly because the entire thing is simply better written, from the story perspective and the central cast. The best-written characters in Andromeda don’t come close to the best of Inquisition. Well Cassandra Pentaghast is my favorite female character in all of fiction so...
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Post by warrior on Jan 8, 2018 9:08:50 GMT
it would be totally wild if they produced a DLC after posting an announcement saying that there is no DLC coming. we may get another Mass Effect someday but sadly MEA isn't getting DLC. unless maybe, like, 1 million players sign it.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2018 20:40:49 GMT
MEA in its current state is (IMO) no worse than DAI without added content. What it really needs is Trespasser-like DLC or expansion to make it great. Biggest issue with it were unreasonable expectations prior to launch (too many people wanting too many different things) and death-by-a-thousand-cuts launch. With most of the minor annoyances present on launch smoothed out, the game is actually a solid B+ or A-. Of course that means absolutely nothing to the suits in EA, so if we do see a continuation, it will not be for a long while. I’d say DAI even without the added content is significantly better, partly because the game functioned more smoothly out the gate, but mainly because the entire thing is simply better written, from the story perspective and the central cast. The best-written characters in Andromeda don’t come close to the best of Inquisition. I like Andromeda's writing far more. it makes more sense and the characters/stories are far less boring to me personally. it has far more in common with DA2/ME2 imo than DAI does, and the "terrible twoes" are the best
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Post by aslightjump on Jan 10, 2018 3:01:59 GMT
I think in terms of nonsensical writing DAI and MEA are pretty much neck and neck, but I have to agree with some others that DAI's companions are far superior to MEA's. I think MEA has the advantage of more of them being narratively useful but eh, it's a boring narrative for the most part. I sometimes wish that we would've just gotten the No Man's Sky kind of deal where you settle outposts and negotiate with the locals because that's where the game really shined IMO. It wouldn't have been franchise building, but the game we got didn't do much on that particular front in the end, either.
BUT all that being said, just because DAI is superior to me doesn't mean I think MEA is a bad game, I don't, and I desperately wanted new content out of it. Just even a little microcosm of a story like Omega or the Descent were would have been fantastic and helped flesh out the galaxy more. A DLC where the team is your fellow Pathfinders would have gotten my money immediately. I wanted to explore more, I like the premise of the game, and I liked being Ryder. So yeah, it's not surprising at all that others felt this way, and it doesn't take much to sign your name to a petition, so they didn't have to be particularly passionate about it either.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2018 15:44:03 GMT
I find all DAI companions and their problems desperately boring save for Dorian, and, maybe Cassandra. Their missions also very light on content, and mostly talky/cut-sceny-gathering related. I really loved it that in MEA the companions each had a dedicated play section with a very strong, interesting and unusual game-play, i.e. climbing through the ship with Liam, or that volcano with PeeBee and the coolest gravity ever with Vetra. Basically, I loved having an actual adventure with each of them, just like in ME2.
I also liked how the companion cast was so small and focused, unlike the DAI, where when I recruited everyone I felt endlessly dragged down by the necessity to talk to the endless characters I did not really care about.
In Andromeda, I felt compelled to forge links with everyone, and there being only six of them, each with a fairly strong core motive/personality, it was way more fun for me than the DAI where I felt like I am watching a boring reality show on TV and most of their dialogues was sort of thinly veiled "modern" urban problems stuff like drug addiction. And when they tried to be like more Medieval, well, it got even more boring and out of sync with "that ex-Templar dude does drugs", like Blackwall talking about tournaments.
Somehow, DAI just lost the magic they build up in DA2 that made me really care to no end about the cast... maybe it is the size of the cast. Because DA2 cast is pretty much the same as Andromeda's.
On the whole, I think it was a big problem in both games that you could only char with the characters in the strongholds. It was easier to take imo in Andromeda since less people to talk to, b/c a full round of farming the mostly boring dialogues in Skyhold was basically the first time in my entire gaming when I felt that talking to the characters was just another boring chore before I can push that show on the road to for gods' sake finish the bloody game.
Andromeda definitely hit pay dirt when they added those banters in the Nomad, an excellent banter system, frequent, short, and extremely entertaining when exploring. Barely heard anything in DAI.
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Post by KaiserShep on Jan 17, 2018 15:58:25 GMT
I wouldn’t say that DA2’s companions are on par with MEA’s. Overall DA’s companions had bigger roles throughout, and unlike any ME roster, gave us way more options in how to deal with them in the end.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2018 17:18:33 GMT
I wouldn’t say that DA2’s companions are on par with MEA’s. Overall DA’s companions had bigger roles throughout, and unlike any ME roster, gave us way more options in how to deal with them in the end. My comment was size-wise. I do also see a lot of equivalency in DA2 and MEA plot roles. One companion that is very main plot-significant and all the rest personifying/narrating/ commenting on a world important faction or lore POV.
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Post by mattfon on Mar 12, 2018 6:20:56 GMT
i still hope they continue the story
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2018 1:15:07 GMT
Well Its still kinda of a New Game still there might even be hope for the game still or Andromeda 2
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