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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Feb 6, 2018 2:05:47 GMT
What are some things in the trilogy that shouldn't matter but really pissed you the hell off?
For me it's Mordin. He's awesome but it had to be him, someone else might've gotten it wrong. Heey, remember Mordin? "Had to be me, someone else might've gotten it wrong!". I think he was an amazing character because someone else might've gotten it wrong. He cured the genophage cuz someone else might've gotten it wrong. Has this line lost all its meaning yet?
Also, the quest log in ME3, that annoying place on Illium in ME2 that randomly causes the game to crash.
ME1 never checking the Conrad Verner plotflags correctly leaving him to claim you shoved the gun in his face in 2 every time.
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Post by dragontartare on Feb 6, 2018 3:51:41 GMT
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Post by themikefest on Feb 6, 2018 3:58:30 GMT
T'soni never shutting up about studying the protheans in ME1. If rescued early, and taken on missions, she will say she studied the protheans for however long a number of times. How many times will she say it before she realizes that everyone already knows?
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Post by Phantom on Feb 6, 2018 4:02:50 GMT
this is speculation on my part that Liara might have an Asari version of High Functional Aspergers or high functional Autism given her nature. IF it is true, it explains her actions.
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Post by copper on Feb 6, 2018 4:09:53 GMT
So I don't even know whether this is even true but I read somewhere that at one point writers were considering not killing Nihilus off so early. Instead he would have been Shepard's mentor for spectre stuff. And I'm just... so irrationally disappointed that didn't happen? Not only would we have a freaking turian as our mentor but there could have been some interesting discussions over how quickly humans were becoming successful in the galaxy and whether the Council's concerns about humanity expanding were valid.
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Post by copper on Feb 6, 2018 4:12:28 GMT
Also not to go for the low hanging fruit but Liara in general tbh
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Post by AnDromedary on Feb 6, 2018 20:26:17 GMT
- ME1, the inventory management, acually, a lot of the UI is annoying. - The fact that I like to do the Feros mission first but it has the hardest persuasion check in the entire game. - Armistice Day happens twice in ME1, despite the fact that the time line of the game is supposed to be less than a year. - Shepard's ignorant jackass conversation options with Wrex when they first talk about teh genophage. - Tali's attitude towards the geth in ME1 - The MAKO at least on some planets - The ME2 almost-reboot and the fact thtat I have to work with TIM - Liara in ME2 (before LotSB) - Harbingers childish taunts - The council in ME2 - the Virmire survivor's attitude on Horizon and also that stupid engineer guy - That spot on the bridge of the Normandy in ME3, where Shepard gets stuck and you have to reload a save (fortunately a mod fixed that one) - The fact that Aria can command the asari councilor - that Citadel fits so poorly into ME3 despite beeing an awesome DLC on it's own (thank god for CEM) - pyjaks - Mass Effect: Andromeda - yea, the whole thing.
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Post by dmc1001 on Feb 6, 2018 21:11:42 GMT
I think the only thing in the trilogy that really pissed was the autosave system in ME1. You could go through so much, forget to save, die...and it could set you back so far. It's definitely caused me to rage quit.
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Post by themikefest on Feb 6, 2018 23:12:52 GMT
Shepard not being able to ask questions.
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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Feb 8, 2018 20:52:40 GMT
I approve (but only if we're talking about ME3)
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2018 22:54:15 GMT
I approve (but only if we're talking about ME3) Nah, ME2 too. Clearly worse in ME3 though. But imo all characters were worse in ME3.
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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Feb 8, 2018 23:40:41 GMT
I approve (but only if we're talking about ME3) Nah, ME2 too. Clearly worse in ME3 though. But imo all characters were worse in ME3. Oh my god, finally. Someone who sees the world like I do. That said, I'm cool with him in ME2. If ME3 had followed through with him as an elusive ally instead of a mwahaha evil villain I'd have been okay with the shift in direction in 2 and being his underdog for a while but nerfing him to generic bad guy undid ME2 which already undid the premise set up by 1 in a sense and it was just a waste.
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Post by gothpunkboy89 on Feb 8, 2018 23:49:53 GMT
I approve (but only if we're talking about ME3) Nah, ME2 too. Clearly worse in ME3 though. But imo all characters were worse in ME3. They are shit in all 3 games. ME 3 isn't special in that regard.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2018 0:15:08 GMT
Nah, ME2 too. Clearly worse in ME3 though. But imo all characters were worse in ME3. Oh my god, finally. Someone who sees the world like I do. That said, I'm cool with him in ME2. If ME3 had followed through with him as an elusive ally instead of a mwahaha evil villain I'd have been okay with the shift in direction in 2 and being his underdog for a while but nerfing him to generic bad guy undid ME2 which already undid the premise set up by 1 in a sense and it was just a waste. I'm torn about him in ME2. On one hand there's this shades of grey thing going on, and allying with someone you don't like because the circumstances demand it. On the other hand I did think he's kind of a stubborn jerk and despite the dialogue suggesting I won't have to follow his orders and am free to follow my own path, the game pretty much has me following his orders up until the final boss. I could call him out for being a backstabbing lying fuck, but somehow I had no option to not do what he tells me to do. I also didn't like the change of Cerberus. ME1 gave me the idea they're a bunch of evil clowns making completely pointless, stupid, failed human experiments, in ME2 it's apparently full of people who say "I'm not convinced of their ways, but they're the only ones who help the colonists, so I'm in". It is not a bad idea per se, but feels to me like the issues are too easily brushed aside. Another thing is his funds. He can revive Shepard from the dead, he can build a better ship than the pinnacle of the combined efforts of the human and turian military. Explanation? "He's got unlimited funds, nobody knows where from". Case closed. I found that not very satisfying. So in the end I found it a somewhat interesting but flawed plot. In ME3 though he's just a cartoon villain.
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Post by The Hype Himself on Feb 9, 2018 2:11:46 GMT
How little your war assets ended up mattering beyond an arbitrary numerical value.
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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Feb 9, 2018 2:48:48 GMT
How little your war assets ended up mattering beyond an arbitrary numerical value. Oh man, I remember getting to that war table for the first time. At first I thought we were going to somehow interact with these numbers throughout the game but as soon as I realized it was just a score describing how well I had done by converting all choices into points I realized that was the consequence of choices. Very annoying, but I'm glad at least in EC it makes more variation. That said, it sucks that it's always the total value that matters and with zero complexity. Imagine if only the Crucible category determined how ready the Crucible would be or it somehow reflected what kinds of asari you got on board. With just a year more I could imagine ME3 having been a more rewarding experience for what it attempted to be. Even Andromeda had a direct response to the lacking finale of ME3 I thought with all alliances you'd helped showing up during the gameplay and helping out in the final fight; it felt like it mattered.
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Post by KrrKs on Feb 10, 2018 15:19:34 GMT
Mostly nitpicky little technical details.
-Charge -how does that even work? Is the character acting as a mass relay and propelling itself via conventional means through a mass-free corridor?
-How can an Omnitool suddenly create target seeking plasma or freeze -balls. Are these formed around a target seeking grenade, or they manipulated with mass effect fields?
-Why do biotics use barriers instead of shields since ME2? (Also, how can Jacob use a barrier ontop of his barrier?)
-Dominate, how - ah screw it i don't care anymore....
Also specifically ME2, why do I have to get crouching behind cover before I can climb over it? THAT DOES'NT MAKE ANY SENSE! WHO DOES THAT?
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Post by Darth Dennis on Feb 11, 2018 11:04:02 GMT
The opening hour or so of ME2. First of all, they're talking about not seeing Geth. But it's never explained why. Sure, the council suddenly change their minds about the reapers for no reason, but Shepard's a spectre and can do what he thinks is necessary. Shepard walked off at the end of ME1 with a purpose to 'find some way to stop [the reapers]', and now he's hunting Geth? However, I do admit the writers never really set up what Shepard could do, but I think they could have made Shepard seem more proactive.
Then the ship gets blown up in a brilliantly executed scene which is really cool and everything. So Shepard dies, and is recovered by Cerberus, who resurrect him with technology never mentioned ever again. Personally, I thought this was a strange way to go about resetting the universe and giving the player new characters to interract with. I think Shepard working for Cerberus was a mistake, and was forced upon the player, even if you played a Shepard who knew how evil and inept Cerberus were. Having Shepard die and live again was a terribly contrived way of doing it.
But all this pales into comparison to the most unforgiveable crime of the entire trilogy - the shuttle went into FTL travel. Yes, the shuttle...goes FTL. I AM SO IRRATIONALLY MAD ABOUT THIS FOR SOME REASON!
Then the rest of the game except the bits about TIM, Cerberus, the council and Liara were amazing and I really enjoyed it. Rant over. Bye.
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Post by sgtreed24 on Feb 19, 2018 14:39:45 GMT
There's too many to list, so just a quick run down of the major offenders:
Having to work with Cerberus in ME2 when you could have been fighting them a lot in ME1 and expressing your hatred toward them.
The handling of the VS in ME2 and the sidelining of them in ME3 for most of the game. Seriously, way to take one of the best, oh shit! choices in the series and make it meaningless out of laziness.
The pushing of Liara and the clear favoritism toward her.
Mako/Hammerhead/Nomad pointless filler "exploration."
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Post by sugarless on Feb 22, 2018 3:04:32 GMT
Many good ones mentioned already, but these are some of the ones that annoy me: Jack slapping Shepard across the face at Grissom Academy, always gets my goat, so much so that I let her die in ME2 every couple of playthroughs to avoid it Hearing Shepard's selfish speel on Menae regarding Turian resources that she "needs". What happened to tact? And hearing that same selfishness mirrored by Liara in Thessia when she says something along the lines of "perhaps next time the Alliance can spring for air support".....
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Post by larsdt on Feb 22, 2018 3:30:34 GMT
Ashley's comment back on the Normandy after Shepard ends the Geth/Quarian war.
"Nice job with those groups" (I can't remember if this is the exact wording)
I would think that someone who has known and fought alongside one since ME1 and had her squad killed by the other "group" would have a less shallow reaction to the outcome...
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Post by dmc1001 on Feb 22, 2018 4:26:23 GMT
Many good ones mentioned already, but these are some of the ones that annoy me: Jack slapping Shepard across the face at Grissom Academy, always gets my goat, so much so that I let her die in ME2 every couple of playthroughs to avoid it I'm on board with this one. Unless I played Renegade/pro-Cerberus in ME2, Jack's reaction makes no sense. Typically, I'm anti-Cerberus throughout ME2. Even if I weren't, though, Jack would still be in lockup if TIM hadn't wanted her recruited.
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Post by themikefest on Feb 22, 2018 4:28:58 GMT
Jack slapping Shepard across the face at Grissom Academy, always gets my goat, so much so that I let her die in ME2 every couple of playthroughs to avoid it Its too bad there wasn't a renegade interrupt for Shepard to hit her back, or at least grab her by the collar and say, "Look you little ****. I'm here to save your sorry a**. So I suggest you don't throw anymore punches. Do you understand you idiotic biotic?" I wanted a renegade interrupt when the T'soni said that. And after the mission is completed, I would kick her off the ship, once the Normandy gets back to the Citadel, for that stupid comment.
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Post by gothpunkboy89 on Feb 22, 2018 5:17:36 GMT
Many good ones mentioned already, but these are some of the ones that annoy me: Jack slapping Shepard across the face at Grissom Academy, always gets my goat, so much so that I let her die in ME2 every couple of playthroughs to avoid it I'm on board with this one. Unless I played Renegade/pro-Cerberus in ME2, Jack's reaction makes no sense. Typically, I'm anti-Cerberus throughout ME2. Even if I weren't, though, Jack would still be in lockup if TIM hadn't wanted her recruited. Really because it seems pretty natural for her. A rough and crass person who struggles to express herself being pissed when Cerberus goons show up trying to take her students. The first instance of her showing she is learning to connect to people again rather then drive them away. That regardless of how pro for against Cerberus your are. The fact is you worked with and help them get to were they are today. You gave Cerberus access they needed. A slap in the face sounds appropriate for paragon. Renegade she should hit you with a biotic attack and send you across the room.
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