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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Feb 10, 2018 1:44:52 GMT
The staff that made the game is largely moved away from BioWare entirely. The bulk of the BW Montreal team is gone. That leaves potential for perhaps a Mass Effect Andromeda sequel done by some staff from Edmonton someday, but as far as the story goes there's a problem.
While the narrative leads, Cathleen Rosaert, Mac as director and John Dombrow remain a lot of the high profile talent behind the writing of Andromeda are not at BioWare anymore. The writers of PeeBee and Cora, the Tempest dialogue and I can't even remember the pilot's name but that guy, they're all gone from BioWare now. They could continue it, but making it about Ryder and his gang of companions for a second romp would not feel the same.
Perhaps we'll see them continue Ryder but shake things up though with other companions though. The art direction would change too on the other hand. Lots of things would just not feel in tone with the first game for better or worse.
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Post by kotoreffect3 on Feb 10, 2018 4:04:04 GMT
While I would like to see a sequel someday I have a feeling when ME does return someday they will sweep MEA under the rug and pretend it didn't happen. I hope I am wrong since MEA left me hangin a bit but the suits at EA will want to distance the franchise from Andromeda. It will most likely return to the Milky Way. I just hope they don't do some prequel or a reboot.
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Post by KaiserShep on Feb 10, 2018 4:35:02 GMT
ME2 felt much different from ME1 and that seemed to work itself out OK. I’m fine with a change in art direction overall. In some ways, especially if that would result in a redesign of Angaran ships, because they’re kinda ugly.
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Post by Sanunes on Feb 10, 2018 5:53:19 GMT
I don't see how any of that would prevent a direct sequel to Andromeda with Ryder and crew. Just because people change doesn't automatically mean it would be different, just like having the same people means it wouldn't. As KaiserShep said there was a big change between Mass Effect 1 and 2 graphically and I am pretty sure there were people behind the scenes moving around. Just because there is a change up doesn't mean it cannot be close enough for other games have had massive shifts in people in some areas and there isn't that big of a difference.
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Post by natetrace on Feb 10, 2018 13:25:47 GMT
Even if Ryder returns as the protagonist, his or her companions probably won't return. I can see Kallo or Lexi returning but your squad? Doubtful. PeeBee is a remnant researcher on the nexus, Drack retired. Liam became a pro volleyball player. Cora is pregnant if romanced and you have fetch quests for chocolate or hamburgers, if not romanced she works in security on Eos to be near her garden. Jaal is on a secret mission and can't be reached. Vetra? I could see her returning just because. Or maybe she assists Kandros with security or strike missions instead.
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Post by ShadowAngel on Feb 10, 2018 16:09:28 GMT
I don't see how any of that would prevent a direct sequel to Andromeda with Ryder and crew. Just because people change doesn't automatically mean it would be different, just like having the same people means it wouldn't. As KaiserShep said there was a big change between Mass Effect 1 and 2 graphically and I am pretty sure there were people behind the scenes moving around. Just because there is a change up doesn't mean it cannot be close enough for other games have had massive shifts in people in some areas and there isn't that big of a difference. You're really downplaying the issue here. The team that made Andromeda is gone, the team that made ME1 was largely intact when making ME2 and ME3. In this instance, if a MEA2 happens, there will be very little developer familiarity being a potential issue. Sure there are are instances where a new team can perform nearly the same, there's also various instances where a different team resulted in widely different results. It's a toss up really on how close a MEA2 would resemble the first.
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Post by Sanunes on Feb 10, 2018 17:13:49 GMT
I don't see how any of that would prevent a direct sequel to Andromeda with Ryder and crew. Just because people change doesn't automatically mean it would be different, just like having the same people means it wouldn't. As KaiserShep said there was a big change between Mass Effect 1 and 2 graphically and I am pretty sure there were people behind the scenes moving around. Just because there is a change up doesn't mean it cannot be close enough for other games have had massive shifts in people in some areas and there isn't that big of a difference. You're really downplaying the issue here. The team that made Andromeda is gone, the team that made ME1 was largely intact when making ME2 and ME3. In this instance, if a MEA2 happens, there will be very little developer familiarity being a potential issue. Sure there are are instances where a new team can perform nearly the same, there's also various instances where a different team resulted in widely different results. It's a toss up really on how close a MEA2 would resemble the first. I really don't see how this is really a problem. The problems with Andromeda seem to be well documented outside EA and BioWare so if they want to fix those problems its well known already. The problems with working with Frostbite again I don't think is that big of an issue now since BioWare decide to pretty much learn the engine from the ground up while developing two massive games at the same time, now that they have finished products using the engine I doubt it is going to need as much of a learning curve. Besides if they think it will be a problem the majority of the people that worked on the game still work at EA they have just been moved to other studios and projects for I didn't hear about massive layoffs just that they closed buildings.
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Post by Rochrok on Feb 10, 2018 23:00:09 GMT
They should go back to the Milky Way and find a protagonist with screen presence. Male Ryder just doesn't cut it and Female Ryder is forever a meme now. If they do MEA again, it probably won't be with Ryder.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Feb 11, 2018 0:34:20 GMT
Characters have had their writers change in past Bioware games and it worked out so I don't see why that would be an issue. Plus while the Montreal team is gone, the people from Edmonton and Austin are all still there so they have a large chunk of the same staff. Also it's not like they wouldn't have the notes from the Montreal people to work with, or even call them for insight.
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Post by cypherj on Feb 11, 2018 0:39:42 GMT
An executive from EA said that if they bring ME back it had to be something fresh and relevant. That pretty much told me that it will be something new if they bring it back.
I don't see how they would justify it internally anyway. If they didn't feel the story was worth continuing in DLC and pulled the plug on the game. Why would they invest and entire game budget to continue the story. It would be a huge risk.
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Post by isaidlunch on Feb 11, 2018 1:40:27 GMT
I don't think it has to be this dramatic. If they made MEA2 and it was an amazing game then it wouldn't matter that MEA bombed, people would be willing to give the series a second chance.
The biggest thing working against MEA2 is Bioware's other IPs. Until Anthem and DA4 release, the series is stuck in limbo.
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Post by samhain444 on Feb 11, 2018 1:55:04 GMT
Yep, no one on staff right now could possibly improve on the writing we got in ME:A...like, no one
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I mean, who could match Peebee's dialogue with tidbits such as "water under the bridge" or "lickity split"?
BioWare employees are now only mere mortals...we are lost
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Post by goishen on Feb 11, 2018 4:02:45 GMT
Heh. Only one?
Wow. Dude. It amazes me that we played the same game.
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Post by KaiserShep on Feb 11, 2018 5:49:09 GMT
They should go back to the Milky Way and find a protagonist with screen presence. Male Ryder just doesn't cut it and Female Ryder is forever a meme now. If they do MEA again, it probably won't be with Ryder. Personally I don’t see the difference. A new protagonist can have all of the exact same issues people may have now. I guess there is the whole player expectations thing where nothing they do would change how people who disliked the character would feel no matter the quality of the writing/animation in a hypothetical next game, but at this point, I don’t really see any difference there either.
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Post by guanxi on Feb 11, 2018 10:34:40 GMT
While I would like to see a sequel someday I have a feeling when ME does return someday they will sweep MEA under the rug and pretend it didn't happen. I hope I am wrong since MEA left me hangin a bit but the suits at EA will want to distance the franchise from Andromeda. It will most likely return to the Milky Way. I just hope they don't do some prequel or a reboot. EA have already come out and said that any future hypothetical Mass Effect game will be a fresh take on the franchise and thank goodness for that. The writing was universally reviled, the characters and environments were flat and uninteresting as the gameplay which was a gimmicky regression for the most part due to the unfortunate engine and middleware changes which crippped it’s development under understandly difficult circumstances and constant restructuring and rescoping. Tear it all up and start over with people who know what they are doing and have a clear focused vision that isn’t terrible from the get go.
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Post by Rochrok on Feb 11, 2018 14:24:50 GMT
They should go back to the Milky Way and find a protagonist with screen presence. Male Ryder just doesn't cut it and Female Ryder is forever a meme now. If they do MEA again, it probably won't be with Ryder. Personally I don’t see the difference. A new protagonist can have all of the exact same issues people may have now. I guess there is the whole player expectations thing where nothing they do would change how people who disliked the character would feel no matter the quality of the writing/animation in a hypothetical next game, but at this point, I don’t really see any difference there either. Main characters have been scrapped for less than what happened with MEA. Like Hawke for DAI. The game seems set up to use him/her, it certainly would have made the most sense. But BW chickened out to give us the Inquisitor. And DA2 wasn't as badly received as MEA (At least I don't think it was) and Hawke got a lot of love, even if people hated the game. I doubt EA will throw more money behind a failed game and characters people spent months laughing at.
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Post by Sanunes on Feb 11, 2018 15:06:59 GMT
Personally I don’t see the difference. A new protagonist can have all of the exact same issues people may have now. I guess there is the whole player expectations thing where nothing they do would change how people who disliked the character would feel no matter the quality of the writing/animation in a hypothetical next game, but at this point, I don’t really see any difference there either. Main characters have been scrapped for less than what happened with MEA. Like Hawke for DAI. The game seems set up to use him/her, it certainly would have made the most sense. But BW chickened out to give us the Inquisitor. And DA2 wasn't as badly received as MEA (At least I don't think it was) and Hawke got a lot of love, even if people hated the game. I doubt EA will throw more money behind a failed game and characters people spent months laughing at. I am pretty sure if Dragon Age 2 was released in the same climate as Mass Effect: Andromeda it would have been treated the same if not worse.
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Post by kotoreffect3 on Feb 11, 2018 15:55:48 GMT
Personally I don’t see the difference. A new protagonist can have all of the exact same issues people may have now. I guess there is the whole player expectations thing where nothing they do would change how people who disliked the character would feel no matter the quality of the writing/animation in a hypothetical next game, but at this point, I don’t really see any difference there either. Main characters have been scrapped for less than what happened with MEA. Like Hawke for DAI. The game seems set up to use him/her, it certainly would have made the most sense. But BW chickened out to give us the Inquisitor. And DA2 wasn't as badly received as MEA (At least I don't think it was) and Hawke got a lot of love, even if people hated the game. I doubt EA will throw more money behind a failed game and characters people spent months laughing at. Oh it was. The old bsn was a warzone when DA 2 released.
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Post by Rochrok on Feb 11, 2018 17:25:23 GMT
Main characters have been scrapped for less than what happened with MEA. Like Hawke for DAI. The game seems set up to use him/her, it certainly would have made the most sense. But BW chickened out to give us the Inquisitor. And DA2 wasn't as badly received as MEA (At least I don't think it was) and Hawke got a lot of love, even if people hated the game. I doubt EA will throw more money behind a failed game and characters people spent months laughing at. Oh it was. The old bsn was a warzone when DA 2 released. Oh lol! That doesn't surprise me.
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Post by Sanunes on Feb 11, 2018 17:32:43 GMT
Main characters have been scrapped for less than what happened with MEA. Like Hawke for DAI. The game seems set up to use him/her, it certainly would have made the most sense. But BW chickened out to give us the Inquisitor. And DA2 wasn't as badly received as MEA (At least I don't think it was) and Hawke got a lot of love, even if people hated the game. I doubt EA will throw more money behind a failed game and characters people spent months laughing at. Oh it was. The old bsn was a warzone when DA 2 released. Yep, I can only imagine if YouTube was around when the game was released what it would have been like.
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Post by samhain444 on Feb 11, 2018 19:25:43 GMT
I never created an account but I lurked on the old BSN starting around the release of Origin until it was shut down. The consistent pattern was:
- new IP (first Mass Effect/Dragon Age Origins) is released, picked apart but, generally well received.
- Time passes with no new games released, more "expert" analysis is done, amateur authors come out with long screed, I mean, err, post about how the game would have been so much better if it just followed their ideas
- some one posts about "all the retcons!"...wothout really understanding what a retcon is
- someone comes up with a theory as to why something is in the game that's "wrong", that something is talked about until posters are whipped into an appropriate froth, post is lost in time but is referenced in another thread later, that something is erroneous attributed devs, it now becomes true that devs said that something
- "Sequel" is announced, much hype ensues
- postings appear on why it will suck and why it will be disappointing based on 2 minute trailer with no in-game footage
- more details are released, including characters and potential romances...people start planning their playthroughs on the amount of romance options that night be in there
- dev says a variation of certain feature will be in game, poster imagine their variation of the feature is THE variation that will appear in the game...game is released with dev-intended variation of feature...dev are liars, F the devs
- sequel is released with different features...why did they take the old features out...these new features suck
- post war ensues between the "haters" and the "biodrones/fanboys/etc"
- feelings are hurt, devs are threatened, someone is accused of being birthed by a hound
- more of what happened before happens again
- new sequel is announced, more fretting is done, more romances are planned, more "experts" write long posts about how shitty game lore is without ever writing any of their own lore...ever
- new game details emerge...game has new features different from the previous game whose features were previously shit on...new game features are shitty because they are different from the previously shitty features
- rinse and repeat
I saw it happen when Mass Effect 2 was released. Oh the kvetching. Then DA2, then ME3...as it shall always be.
To be fair, DA2 had it's issues but where it distinguished itself from MEA was its superior character writing. Despite some problems with the third acts, it had some great story beats and the Arishok might be the best antagonist BioWare has ever done.
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Post by kotoreffect3 on Feb 11, 2018 20:01:31 GMT
I never created an account but I lurked on the old BSN starting around the release of Origin until it was shut down. The consistent pattern was: - new IP (first Mass Effect/Dragon Age Origins) is released, picked apart but, generally well received. - Time passes with no new games released, more "expert" analysis is done, amateur authors come out with long screed, I mean, err, post about how the game would have been so much better if it just followed their ideas - some one posts about "all the retcons!"...wothout really understanding what a retcon is - someone comes up with a theory as to why something is in the game that's "wrong", that something is talked about until posters are whipped into an appropriate froth, post is lost in time but is referenced in another thread later, that something is erroneous attributed devs, it now becomes true that devs said that something - "Sequel" is announced, much hype ensues - postings appear on why it will suck and why it will be disappointing based on 2 minute trailer with no in-game footage - more details are released, including characters and potential romances...people start planning their playthroughs on the amount of romance options that night be in there - dev says a variation of certain feature will be in game, poster imagine their variation of the feature is THE variation that will appear in the game...game is released with dev-intended variation of feature...dev are liars, F the devs - sequel is released with different features...why did they take the old features out...these new features suck - post war ensues between the "haters" and the "biodrones/fanboys/etc" - feelings are hurt, devs are threatened, someone is accused of being birthed by a hound - more of what happened before happens again - new sequel is announced, more fretting is done, more romances are planned, more "experts" write long posts about how shitty game lore is without ever writing any of their own lore...ever - new game details emerge...game has new features different from the previous game whose features were previously shit on...new game features are shitty because they are different from the previously shitty features - rinse and repeat I saw it happen when Mass Effect 2 was released. Oh the kvetching. Then DA2, then ME3...as it shall always be. To be fair, DA2 had it's issues but where it distinguished itself from MEA was its superior character writing. Despite some problems with the third acts, it had some great story beats and the Arishok might be the best antagonist BioWare has ever done. You could probably create an IP based entirely off of the old bsn
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Post by samhain444 on Feb 11, 2018 20:07:20 GMT
I never created an account but I lurked on the old BSN starting around the release of Origin until it was shut down. The consistent pattern was: - new IP (first Mass Effect/Dragon Age Origins) is released, picked apart but, generally well received. - Time passes with no new games released, more "expert" analysis is done, amateur authors come out with long screed, I mean, err, post about how the game would have been so much better if it just followed their ideas - some one posts about "all the retcons!"...wothout really understanding what a retcon is - someone comes up with a theory as to why something is in the game that's "wrong", that something is talked about until posters are whipped into an appropriate froth, post is lost in time but is referenced in another thread later, that something is erroneous attributed devs, it now becomes true that devs said that something - "Sequel" is announced, much hype ensues - postings appear on why it will suck and why it will be disappointing based on 2 minute trailer with no in-game footage - more details are released, including characters and potential romances...people start planning their playthroughs on the amount of romance options that night be in there - dev says a variation of certain feature will be in game, poster imagine their variation of the feature is THE variation that will appear in the game...game is released with dev-intended variation of feature...dev are liars, F the devs - sequel is released with different features...why did they take the old features out...these new features suck - post war ensues between the "haters" and the "biodrones/fanboys/etc" - feelings are hurt, devs are threatened, someone is accused of being birthed by a hound - more of what happened before happens again - new sequel is announced, more fretting is done, more romances are planned, more "experts" write long posts about how shitty game lore is without ever writing any of their own lore...ever - new game details emerge...game has new features different from the previous game whose features were previously shit on...new game features are shitty because they are different from the previously shitty features - rinse and repeat I saw it happen when Mass Effect 2 was released. Oh the kvetching. Then DA2, then ME3...as it shall always be. To be fair, DA2 had it's issues but where it distinguished itself from MEA was its superior character writing. Despite some problems with the third acts, it had some great story beats and the Arishok might be the best antagonist BioWare has ever done. You could probably create an IP based entirely off of the old bsn First, I want to just talk about creating it so I can see comments about how bad it will be from people who have no intention of ever playing. Then, I want to create it so I can see comments from people that never played it saying how bad it is due to what they saw from YouTubers who made a video about bad it is though they never played it thenselves.
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At sunrise there is the sunset.
To find the secrets of the universe: Think in terms of energy, frequency & VIBRATION -Nikola Tesla
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Shattered Steel, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda, SWTOR
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Post by Atemporal Vanguardian-Debugger on Feb 11, 2018 20:09:10 GMT
While I would like to see a sequel someday I have a feeling when ME does return someday they will sweep MEA under the rug and pretend it didn't happen. I hope I am wrong since MEA left me hangin a bit but the suits at EA will want to distance the franchise from Andromeda. It will most likely return to the Milky Way. I just hope they don't do some prequel or a reboot.
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Post by abaris on Feb 11, 2018 20:40:08 GMT
And DA2 wasn't as badly received as MEA (At least I don't think it was) and Hawke got a lot of love, even if people hated the game. Hawke and crew aren't as bad as some people made them to be. I played DAII after playing Andromeda for the first time. And I was amazed at how much better DAII was in terms of companions and companion interactions. MEAs main problem is quantity over quality. I'm pretty sure if they had chosen a more linear approach with maps instead of these vast but lifeless open spaces, it would have been received better. The companions are still rather meh, but the game would have benefitted hugely by not going down the open world approach. Bioware simply isn't up to create convincing open worlds.
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