Things working against a possible Ryder series sequel as of right now

That edit doesn't really help, for I know how the boards reacted to the Rachni and how they were implemented.  Its probably one of the reasons why BioWare won't make drastic choices again because no matter what they did there were plenty of noise about how they blew that choice and ruined its important with just using a single line instead of making it important.

I never created an account but I lurked on the old BSN starting around the release of Origin until it was shut down. The consistent pattern was:

- new IP (first Mass Effect/Dragon Age Origins) is released, picked apart but, generally well received.

- Time passes with no new games released, more "expert" analysis is done, amateur authors come out with long screed, I mean, err, post about how the game would have been so much better if it just followed their ideas

- some one posts about "all the retcons!"...wothout really understanding what a retcon is

- someone comes up with a theory as to why something is in the game that's "wrong", that something is talked about until posters are whipped into an appropriate froth, post is lost in time but is referenced in another thread later, that something is erroneous attributed devs, it now becomes true that devs said that something

- "Sequel" is announced, much hype ensues

- postings appear on why it will suck and why it will be disappointing based on 2 minute trailer with no in-game footage

- more details are released, including characters and potential romances...people start planning their playthroughs on the amount of romance options that night be in there

- dev says a variation of certain feature will be in game, poster imagine their variation of the feature is THE variation that will appear in the game...game is released with dev-intended variation of feature...dev are liars, F the devs

- sequel is released with different features...why did they take the old features out...these new features suck

- post war ensues between the "haters" and the "biodrones/fanboys/etc"

- feelings are hurt, devs are threatened, someone is accused of being birthed by a hound

- more of what happened before happens again

- new sequel is announced, more fretting is done, more romances are planned, more "experts" write long posts about how shitty game lore is without ever writing any of their own lore...ever

- new game details emerge...game has new features different from the previous game whose features were previously shit on...new game features are shitty because they are different from the previously shitty features

- rinse and repeat

I saw it happen when Mass Effect 2 was released. Oh the kvetching. Then DA2, then ME3...as it shall always be.

To be fair, DA2 had it's issues but where it distinguished itself from MEA was its superior character writing. Despite some problems with the third acts, it had some great story beats and the Arishok might be the best antagonist BioWare has ever done.

There is absultely no chance of a next Mass Effect game that is a direct sequel to Andromeda. The Ryders killed the franchise, they don't get (and don't deserve) a second chance. No one is Andromeda does.

Self running massive robot like YMIR? Dunno about sentience, anyway, YMIR was also mentioned.. ANYWAY

Greatest issue with ME3 endings is that they are not satisfactory nor do they fit the theme entire game was going with. There was pretty much no build up either for any of the endings either beyond barebones thing of kill reapers or control reapers.

However it is the controversy around ME3 endings that makes direct sequel impossible, as to this day BioWare devs do not want to discuss about the endings at all. They avoid that topic even after 6 years. They will talk about nearly everything else in great detail, but endings are still a giant mystery of how and why BioWare devs though it was a good idea. We only have speculations and unconfirmed anonymous leaks.


BioWare is afraid to confront that topic, and that topic is unavoidable if they do direct sequel. So, yeah. Either they continue Andromeda or a complete reboot.

I honestly don't get that idea. Yeah dead specific person if still dead, but all the main decisions can be written around IMO.  I never cure the genophage, but if in ME OG trilogy 4 its cured all it takes is like a single line.   Despite Commander Shepards betrayal War Chief Smarty Pants created a cure, we didn't need the Salarians to fix it.  They had like 2-3 Krogan who were on the path to creating a cure, multiple Salarians who think its the right thing to do and probably could if they wanted to.  If they make it the default world setting one line of dialogue explains why even tough you chose otherwise. If you cured it, one line of dialogue explaining how the slarains invented a new genophage after a raid by upset krogan.  Geth/Quarians enough escaping to rebuild if one was killed is plausible and again a single line of dialogue explains it.  At most it makes traveling to Quarain home world a off limits planet.

Edit to add, they basically did this in ME3 and yet your decision were kept.  Killed the rachni, they made clones, convinced Mordin to destroy the cure, he changed his mind.  You making a decision doesn't make your character all powerful so it lasts for eternity.

It wouldn't be the first time decisions made by the player didn't carry over to the next game.  The Urn of Sacred Ashes in DAO?  In one of my PT I killed Leliana and there she was in DA2 and of course DAI.  If they want to they can change the ending.

Better yet when they are right. I mean, you can, for some unknown reason, think Andromeda deserves a second chance and that its character were good. Nothing wrong there. But thinking it might get one? That's just delusion and/or denial. Similar to people thinking it would get a DLC, or that the team who made the game wasn't disbanded.

Of all the major complaints that I’ve felt attributed to game ultimately losing support so quickly, the actual protagonist seems to have been the least of its worries. Even if everyone thought Ryder him/herself was supremely awesome, that wouldn’t have changed the story, the other characters (that actually were mentioned more often), and the overall instability and other technical issues that ultimately did the whole thing in. 

If Commander Shepard was put in the middle of this game instead, with the same original writing of that character, but the game itself played out the same way, nothing would have changed. 

Yeah none of that have anything to do why a sequel is not possible. It's because the endings are too diverse.

But you can get the Krogan to go extinct, how do you write around that?


Haven't you played Trespasser? In the epilogue it's confirmed that 

I don't think there's any chance they do a direct sequel.  The biggest thing working against a direct sequel is the success of the first game, or lack thereof.  If EA/Bioware didn't think it was worth continuing the story in DLC, why would they take the financial risk of continuing it in a full blown sequel?

Also, one of the executives from EA said if Mass Effect returns it would have to be something "fresh and relevant".  To me that's marketing speak for back to the drawing board.  Even if they stay in Andromeda I think it'll be way into the future where the galaxy is more established.

World state 2: Krogan are extinct, Rachni rule Tuchanka, every AI is destroyed.