Why do Bethesda Games always generate such hype?

I have yet to play a disappointing bethesda game. Idk why people hate on them.

Everyone always brings up bugs, but I don't really experience that either lol.

I love them because they are usually highly customizable when it comes to my character. They usually have great settings and atmosphere and story. And they also often include choices that vary up my games enough to give them replay value.

So when I see a new Fallout (this is one of my fav franchises simply because of the setting) by bethesda, I'm going to get hype.

That is probably one of my biggest gripes with the Elder Scrolls games, for all the talk about creating your own character and doing what you want and being who you want it is all a lie, and a poorly concealed one at that, apart from being able to choose how your character looks there really isn't much in the game that allows you to define who your character is or what their story may be.

For as much as the word "freedom" is thrown out when describing Bethesda games there really isn't much freedom to do anything outside of what the rigidly linear questlines allow you to do, the only real freedom you have is to decide which questlines you want to do and in which order you do them in however nothing done in the questlines has any effect on anything outside of that questline and how your character is defined by the world around them depends entirely on whatever questline you happen to be doing at that moment, if you are doing the fighters guild you are a fighter, if you are doing the mages guild questline you are a mage, if you want to be contradictory you can do the knights of the nine questline and be a paladin while simultaneously being a sadistic murderer for the Dark Brotherhood and switch between questlines on a whim and once you are done your actions in both questlines will have no tangible effect on the larger world as a whole apart from maybe a throw away line from the guard where he tells you he knows that you work for the Dark Brotherhood (then later the exact same guard will praise your noble actions as the paladin).

As for gameplay while you do get to select which skills to focus on the game always comes down to the same 2 options, stealth or combat and generally different questlines will force you into one option or the other depending on who the questline is for, there are no multiple ways to complete a quest and by the time you have done everything in the game the world state will be essentially the same as the other person who did everything in the game apart from maybe the choice of whether to side with the stormcloaks or the imperials.

In the end the Elder Scrolls series gives you about as much freedom to define your characters as the GTA or more accurately the Saint's Row games give you which really isn't much beyond character appearance.

I dunno man it is almost as if you completely ignored what I said in order to post some butthurt knee jerk reaction without truly understanding what was said.

But ok why don't you tell me how the world reacts differently to your character if you choose a Khajiit instead of a Nord or how the gameplay changes if you choose to level one handed weapons over 2 handed weapons? Does joining the warrior type guild exclude you from joining the stealth related one and does the world and the gameplay forever change based on your decision, or is it merely a choice akin to deciding whether or not you want to bother with the tow truck missions in GTA 5?

I am sure you can ignore the main quest if you want but you can also ignore the main missions in any GTA game and just run down pedestrians, but in the end the only effect this choice has on your gameplay experience is depriving yourself of content.

They destroy time and consume lives. Bethesda is a drug pusher, and we are its manic users.

If you can't find a way to make your character your own in a TES game, you just aren't going to be happy with anything other than table top games. TES and FO both obviously have to have some restrictions due to the medium of being a computer game, but as far as computer games go they are pretty wide open.

I can't tell if you are being sarcastic or not.   I had characters in Skyrim that did none of those things, others did all of them, characters that did some and not other parts of that.  I'm not sure where you are going with this.

Well, that is fine and all, but it doesn't really have anything to do with making the character your own or unique or role playing in anyway.  I found it pretty easy to rp those moments in Skyrim.  Fallout tends to railroad your character a lot more, especially FO4 was terrible about that but I was still able to find ways to make my character my own there too. 

Some people won't be able to, and that is fine, just means computer games are too restrictive for them.  Table top games are still there for those that enjoy them.  You are not however going to get a computer game that can match that level of freedom.

You are kind of missing the point, I mean yeah the Elder Scrolls games allow you to pick your race and gender and customize your character's appearance and leave the backstory of your character intentionally blank for you to fill with your own headcanon but in the end this is not something unique to Bethesda games but applies to any game with a character creator, whats more in the context of how the world reacts to your character and how your character is perceived by the world around them all that stuff is completely and entirely irrelevant.

Your character's race has no effect on the opportunities open to your character nor does it really effect how other character's perceive your character even if the character is supposed to be a huge racist, hell most of the time your race isn't even referenced in dialogue outside a few rare instances, same goes for your characters sex and don't expect anyone to give a rats ass about whatever your character's headcanon backstory may be.

Heck even the skills you choose to specialize in don't really matter in the long run, you are entirely capable of getting to the top of any guild without specializing in any of the skills those guilds are known for, you are entirely capable of becoming grandmaster of the college of Winterhold without training any of your magic stats and you can get through most of the missions without casting a single spell, and in the end it really does not matter what skills you have as different skills don't open up unique options for completing quests, most of the time you only have 2 options which are combat and stealth and generally different missions will force you down one path or the other.


Sure the Elder Scrolls games allow you to ignore the story the game provides and headcanon your own, but so do almost every game in existence, however as far as getting the game to acknowledge your character's personal story and unique characteristics it is a complete failure and defeats the purpose of playing a unique character, you might as well be swinging a cardboard tube at invisible monsters in your backyard for all it matters.

I thought the love of Bethesda was directly related to their modding community. having prettier games means they'd have to get a prettier engine. But then people wouldn't be able to mod, and nobody would play the games.

Queen Skadi

You dislike SKyrim the same reason I dislike Skyrim. The choices we make are only token reflected in the world around you. 

When I look back on my month with Skyrim these are my complaints:

1. I married an ex-werewolf, then became a vampire. Becoming a Vampire had two huge problems with it.

• 1A. The quest I did to become a vampire involved me mind controlling an NPC. I thought WOW! this is awesome! It's like an Instant persuasion check! Who DOESN'T become a Vampire?! they're crazy, this opens up so many interesting ways to finish quests and- SLAM- nope. The most you can do is make people a little fuzzy headed to bite them.  Also people start treating you like crap on occasion. And weakness during daylight. whatever.
• 1B. I couldn't tell my ex werewolf husband I was a vampire. I couldn't tell him anything. The closest to trying to tell him I was a vampire was to bite him. And in that case, he would rise up and try to murder me.

Oblivion > DA: Origins.