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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2017 0:34:04 GMT
 I am going nuts. I so desperately want elder scrolls vi. I realize it's "a long way off." Here's the run down... - When do you think TES6 is likely to be announced? - When do you think TES6 is likely to be released? (Usually BGS announces their games very close to release.) - In reference to the remark that to create the vision they have for TES6, they may need better technology, what do you think Bethesda meant by that? Newer consoles? A better engine? Both? I know they must be developing a better engine. My question is: when did they begin developing it? Engines can take a long time to create. 10 years, give or take. At least that's my understanding. - There are rumors floating around about multiplayer in TES6. I truly hope those are rumors and nothing more. Keep elder scrolls single player. (Bethesda shouldn't go the way of BioWare.) - Where do you think TES6 will take place? - What do you think will be the main theme of TES6? E.g. The Daedra and oblivion gates in Oblivion. The dragons in Skyrim. Etc. - What, lore-wise, do you want them to expand on in TES6? - What is your favorite thing about playing elder scrolls? Do you want that to improve or stay the way it is in TES6? P.s. And yes, I'm aware there's a general Elder Scrolls thread. I posted in there about TES6 and it went ignored. I want to discuss, speculate, geek out, and fixate specifically on TES6. 
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Post by Draining Dragon on Apr 19, 2017 0:44:54 GMT
I'm hoping TES6 will be set in Black Marsh. I want to learn more about the Argonians and their connection to the Hist.
Now, IIRC Black Marsh is inhospitable for any race other than Argonians. I can't imagine Bethesda locking us into playing only one race, so the plot would need to somehow involve the land becoming temporarily accessible for elves, humans, and Khajiits. Maybe the Hist is dying and the hero needs to save it?
My favorite thing about Elder Scrolls is the huge amount of character customization in Morrowind and Oblivion. I hope they bring back the attributes, class system, and birth sign selection from those games (along with the Acrobatics skill). I didn't appreciate Skyrim watering down that aspect of the series.
As for multiplayer, I think ESO showed that there's a lot of potential there. If they do multiplayer, I'd want it to be a co-op mode for the main story with a small number of players (maybe 4-8).
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Post by smilesja on Apr 19, 2017 0:50:02 GMT
I loved Oblivion and Skyrim, I would like the next game to go the Mountains where the Orcs reside.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2017 0:50:16 GMT
I'm hoping TES6 will be set in Black Marsh. I want to learn more about the Argonians and their connection to the Hist. Now, IIRC Black Marsh is inhospitable for any race other than Argonians. I can't imagine Bethesda locking us into playing only one race, so the plot would need to somehow involve the land becoming temporarily accessible for elves, humans, and Khajiits. Maybe the Hist is dying and the hero needs to save it? My favorite thing about Elder Scrolls is the huge amount of character customization in Morrowind and Oblivion. I hope they bring back the attributes, class system, and birth sign selection from those games (along with the Acrobatics skill). I didn't appreciate Skyrim watering down that aspect of the series. As for multiplayer, I think ESO showed that there's a lot of potential there. If they do multiplayer, I'd want it to be a co-op mode for the main story with a small number of players (maybe 4-8). I liked the way Morrowind and Oblivion handled that too. Skyrim was indeed dumbed down. I want to say it's habitable again, but there are diseases abound. But then again, that's nothing a stockpile of cure disease potions can't fix. FOLLOW UP QUESTION: Are there any characters from the old games you want to see again? This can be done with said character either having long lifespans due to :magic:, necromancy, or the character is now a spectral ghost thing. (E.g. Lucien Lachance)
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Post by Urdnot Lycan on Apr 19, 2017 1:26:50 GMT
I wouldn't mind it taking place in Valenwood or Elsweyr. One thing I hope is they don't go the Fallout 4 route and give the hero a voice. It just wouldn't feel the same with a voice.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2017 2:35:06 GMT
I wouldn't mind it taking place in Valenwood or Elsweyr. One thing I hope is they don't go the Fallout 4 route and give the hero a voice. It just wouldn't feel the same with a voice. I worry they would have to hire a variety of voice actors for each race, too. It'd be interesting if they pulled it off, but so far no one has pulled that off so well. I liked the voiced PC in FO4, however. But the Sole Survivor is a pretty set character, irregardless of gender or appearance.
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Post by Urdnot Lycan on Apr 19, 2017 2:47:49 GMT
I worry they would have to hire a variety of voice actors for each race, too. It'd be interesting if they pulled it off, but so far no one has pulled that off so well. I liked the voiced PC in FO4, however. But the Sole Survivor is a pretty set character, irregardless of gender or appearance. I didn't have a problem with the PC being voiced Fallout 4. There have been times (still haven't finished the game) where what I choose for my response didn't mesh with what came from my character. That type of stuff is disappointing because I like to put my personality into the character and sometimes a voice actor doesn't do it justice.
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Post by MPApr2012 on Apr 19, 2017 3:03:33 GMT
FOLLOW UP QUESTION: Are there any characters from the old games you want to see again? This can be done with said character either having long lifespans due to :magic:, necromancy, or the character is now a spectral ghost thing. (E.g. Lucien Lachance) M'aiq the Liar well, sort of a safe enough bet anyways...
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Post by CHRrOME on Apr 19, 2017 3:26:43 GMT
Yeah, I know how you feel. The more you think about a certain matter, the more crazy it drives you.
So as a personal opinion regarding these predicaments you have:
Announced, don't know. Probably at some E3 now that Bethesda has a proper show every year. When it'll be released? 2019, I wager (with Borlderlands 3 if the gods are merciful...). FO3 released in 2008, Skyrim in 2011, FO4 2015. That's an average-ish of 4 years, and it's likely to take longer the more advanced technology gets, the more stuff they wanna do and all that jazz, so 2019 seems plausible to me.
That interview with Pete Hines in which he mentioned something on the lines of "the technology to create that game doesn't even exist" is BS imo, with capital B. The technology existed ages ago, is just their weird way of coding. Now, I'm not gonna judge because I know coding is a bitch and there's infinite paths to take, but their game engines are "complicated" and lackluster at best. I doubt the tech is not available, especially now with the blasted new consoles on the market already, they're not lagging the industry anymore like the PS3 and 360 did. But whatever, they need some magical tech that will help them out in their development. Won't hold my breath on that. I assume he just say that because he had to say something, because otherwise it sounds stupid AF... Moving on.
MP for TES? Nah. They know what their fans want, and their fans do not want multiplayer. Also that's draining resources, especially from a small team like theirs. That's why they released TES Online, that's the multiplayer component for an Elder Scrolls and it should stay that way.
Where will it take place... No pissing clue. Could be anywhere, and it'd be cool in its own way. Let's assume they're not revisiting places again (without taking into account the first ES, that was all Tamriel apparently): Cyrodiil (TES IV). Skyrim (TES V). High Rock (TES II). Morrowind (TES III).
That leaves us with: Hammerfell. Interesting arc here, since they were still fighting the Thalmor during the events of Skyrim. Vvanderfell. Place got fucked along with Morrowind thanks to that stupid Volcano... Not sure we'll ever see them again. Orsinium. Orc's homeland, technically part of High Rock? they say the place is a wreck, who knows though. I find it interesting. Valenwood. Elsweyr. Black Marsh. And The Summerset Isles.
I think chances are very high it'll be set in one of those places. Which one, I couldn't know. Personally anyone will do, but Summerset Isles draws my attention. Simply because I like all things mysterious and shit.
Main theme in that game? I have no idea either. They tend to make astronomical jumps between games so I won't even suggest a retaliation war against the High elves, that probably got solved in the middle of development again... It would have been interesting though.
What lore to expand? Personal take, probably about the Dwemer or any other long forgotten race, simply because of what I said above: I like mysterious stuff.
Fav stuff about these games. I don't know, a million things really. Mostly the fantasy theme in first person. First time I put my hands on Oblivion (first ES I played) I thought I'll hate it, ended up loving it because it was unique in that style. But I hope they improve combat, like a lot. Melee, ranged, and magic. Because it clearly needs improvement, specially magic; being a caster is the hardest and cringy role to choose in the game.
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Post by Urdnot Lycan on Apr 19, 2017 3:30:56 GMT
No matter where the game does take place. We all know the game will start with us as a prisoner because its an Elder Scrolls game.
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- When do you think TES6 is likely to be released? (Usually BGS announces their games very close to release.) Todd Howard once joked that since Skyrim came out on 11/11/11, TES6 would be out on 22/22/22.
Honestly though... that's probably not far off. They have 2 major game releases they want to put out before TES6. So... even with the new Montreal studio they opened in Dec 2015, anything much earlier than 2022 doesn't seem likely.- In reference to the remark that to create the vision they have for TES6, they may need better technology, what do you think Bethesda meant by that? Newer consoles? A better engine? Both? I know they must be developing a better engine. My question is: when did they begin developing it? Engines can take a long time to create. 10 years, give or take. At least that's my understanding. I remember PH mentioning the technology they want to use for it doesn't exist yet and needs to be created. A new engine or an adapted engine...? I'm not sure. Whichever route they go, you can be sure it'll have mod support though. The community is too valuable to them to lose. - There are rumors floating around about multiplayer in TES6. I truly hope those are rumors and nothing more. Keep elder scrolls single player. (Bethesda shouldn't go the way of BioWare.) I hope not either, but...- Where do you think TES6 will take place? No idea... I'm hoping Valenwood, but honestly I'm not that fussy. - What is your favorite thing about playing elder scrolls? Do you want that to improve or stay the way it is in TES6? I would be nice to have more fleshed out characters, story, the places they're obviously weak in. The combat could be improved as well. They've been bleeding-edge in the graphics department in the last 2 TES, so I'd hope to see that continue as well. As well as hang onto Jeremy Soule for their soundtrack.
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Post by Lavochkin on Apr 19, 2017 3:55:46 GMT
Elder Scrolls VI: Black Marsh plz.
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Post by Draining Dragon on Apr 19, 2017 4:42:01 GMT
I'm hoping TES6 will be set in Black Marsh. I want to learn more about the Argonians and their connection to the Hist. Now, IIRC Black Marsh is inhospitable for any race other than Argonians. I can't imagine Bethesda locking us into playing only one race, so the plot would need to somehow involve the land becoming temporarily accessible for elves, humans, and Khajiits. Maybe the Hist is dying and the hero needs to save it? My favorite thing about Elder Scrolls is the huge amount of character customization in Morrowind and Oblivion. I hope they bring back the attributes, class system, and birth sign selection from those games (along with the Acrobatics skill). I didn't appreciate Skyrim watering down that aspect of the series. As for multiplayer, I think ESO showed that there's a lot of potential there. If they do multiplayer, I'd want it to be a co-op mode for the main story with a small number of players (maybe 4-8). Are there any characters from the old games you want to see again? This can be done with said character either having long lifespans due to :magic:, necromancy, or the character is now a spectral ghost thing. (E.g. Lucien Lachance) Sheogorath. CHEESE FOR EVERYONE
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2017 14:41:09 GMT
Ok I do really want Cicero to make a reappearance somehow. You either hate him or love him. I'm the latter.
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Post by CHRrOME on Apr 19, 2017 22:36:08 GMT
Ok I do really want Cicero to make a reappearance somehow. You either hate him or love him. I'm the latter. Doubtful, he's pretty dead.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2017 1:27:45 GMT
Ok I do really want Cicero to make a reappearance somehow. You either hate him or love him. I'm the latter. Doubtful, he's pretty dead. He's dead if you kill him. There's an option not to kill him. (Best follower ever.) Regardless, each game takes place over long spans of time in between. Lucien LaChance, from Oblivion, was long since dead and they brought him back in Skyrim.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2017 1:30:58 GMT
No matter where the game does take place. We all know the game will start with us as a prisoner because its an Elder Scrolls game. Lol. I truly hope they never break this tradition.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2017 1:36:47 GMT
Are there any characters from the old games you want to see again? This can be done with said character either having long lifespans due to :magic:, necromancy, or the character is now a spectral ghost thing. (E.g. Lucien Lachance) Sheogorath. CHEESE FOR EVERYONE Next to Cicero, Sheogorath is one of my top favorites. I may have a theme here for insane characters. I loved the Shivering Isles dlc. Beware the Jyggalag. Fun trivia.... Sheogorath is the alter ego of one of the former elder scrolls devs named Ted Peterson. Theo being another name for Ted which is short for Theodore. It somehow became Sheogorath. I'm thinking Ted was a guy who liked order. So maybe that makes him the Jyggalag.
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Post by CHRrOME on Apr 20, 2017 1:45:45 GMT
Doubtful, he's pretty dead. He's dead if you kill him. There's an option not to kill him. (Best follower ever.) Regardless, each game takes place over long spans of time in between. Lucien LaChance, from Oblivion, was long since dead and they brought him back in Skyrim. Really? I don't even remember that. All I knew was that if you do the Brotherhood questline you end up killing him at the end, or maybe I always picked that choice.
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He's dead if you kill him. There's an option not to kill him. (Best follower ever.) Regardless, each game takes place over long spans of time in between. Lucien LaChance, from Oblivion, was long since dead and they brought him back in Skyrim. Really? I don't even remember that. All I knew was that if you do the Brotherhood questline you end up killing him at the end, or maybe I always picked that choice. Yep you can kill him. Or... you can walk away from him, leaving the dawnstar Sanctuary. His body then disappears and you finish up the dark Brotherhood quest line. Once the Falkreath Sanctuary is destroyed and you head to Dawnstar, Cicero meets you outside the Sanctuary (after you go in, then come back out). He becomes a follower after that. I found him to be one of my favorite companions. Andy Morris did a good job voice acting for Cicero. He's the only uniquely voiced companion in that entire game. The others are all reused voices you'll hear on random NPC's (a Bethesda staple). Throughout the Dark Brotherhood questline, Cicero really is the only character who remains 100% loyal to the Dragonborn. Astrid is a betrayer, though she feels bad in the end. But she was plotting against you, partly why Cicero flipped out and tried to stab her before he ran off to Dawnstar. He was protecting The Listener (you). His whole background is pretty interesting. Not sure how much people know about him. He wasn't a jester - he was an assassin who was completely sane and intelligent. His final contract before becoming Keeper of the Night Mother was to kill a jester. Somehow that experience fucked with the character and as he was driven to madness by enduring two fallen sanctuaries, he just slowly assumed the role of his final contract. I wish more elder scrolls companions were this fleshed out and uniquely voiced. Andy Morris channeled Mark Hamill's "Joker." My hope for TES6 are more unique and memorable companions. I think FO4 succeeded with this, so I have high hopes for TES6. Edit: also if you summon Lucien LaChance while in the dawnstar Sanctuary as you're hunting down Cicero (who is wounded and barricaded down below) - Lucien will protest killing Cicero saying that such a deed is not what Sithis wants. He will kill Cicero if you tell him to, but he informs you that Sithis is not too happy about that choice.
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Post by Urdnot Lycan on Apr 20, 2017 2:45:02 GMT
I think I killed Cicero, not really sure. Honestly, though I never bothered bringing a companion with me. It messed with my play style on Skyrim. I do hope there are more fleshed out companions (much like Fallout 4). So they aren't just a hired hand.
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Post by FeralEwok on Apr 20, 2017 3:14:45 GMT
- When do you think TES6 is likely to be announced? I really don't expect to hear anything for at least another three years. That gives them ample time to produce all the content they want for ESO and will be about as far of a lifespan I expect for that game at this point. 02.20.2020 just because Skyrim was 11.11.11 I think F04 is still using their ancient engine and will probably be the last to do so since it started to show the engine's limitations. I don't know how long the current generation of consoles are going to last, but if they start announcing PS5 and Xbox...idk 2? Then I'd push back the release time a few more years at that point. I haven't heard those rumors, but it doesn't seem compatible with the style they usually make these games. ESO is a TES game but it definitely doesn't handle like a traditional Scrolls game. It'd be a shame to seem them scrap aspects of the single player as sacrifice to include co-op/multiplayer. PC mods alone would suffer because Beth would either have to regulate their servers with no modding or if it's just co-op you'd need players to run the same mods. Most people seem to point towards Black Marsh, but if they are following up with the Dominion's attempt to fuck up mundus, I think the Summerset Isles would be a very strong contender. While I think the Stormcloak rebellion won't matter in the following game, the fact that the Dominion are still behind the scenes trying to weaken the Empire will still play a big part. Normally they have to include some larger/less political magical event for the player to intervene with...but if the Dominion are trying to destroy the world so as to end the curse of mortality I'd say that's a job for the player to handle. Since they skimped on the Nordic pantheon lore in Skyrim, I highly doubt I'll see them explore my favorite pantheon/religion in TES any further. So I am not sure really what I want to see expanded on right now. I don't think they'll ever get heavily involved in metaphysics or at most they will sprinkle some bits of info out there for /r/teslore to debate about. I don't think I'll ever hear the word CHIM in a future TES game.  More of this please and thank you.
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I think I killed Cicero, not really sure. Honestly, though I never bothered bringing a companion with me. It messed with my play style on Skyrim. I do hope there are more fleshed out companions (much like Fallout 4). So they aren't just a hired hand. This Web comic accurately describes what it is like adventuring with " poor, humble Cicero." 
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Post by Urdnot Lycan on Apr 20, 2017 4:26:37 GMT
Thats pretty funny. I don't know, I tend to role play my characters in the Elder Scrolls games as lone wanderers (usually with some dark past). I might need to just divert at some point from that and enjoy having someone with me.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2017 11:42:59 GMT
Thats pretty funny. I don't know, I tend to role play my characters in the Elder Scrolls games as lone wanderers (usually with some dark past). I might need to just divert at some point from that and enjoy having someone with me. Thats how I play elder scrolls 90% of the time, too. I do stealth with a bow and arrow, so I prefer wandering solo. Lol, but Cicero had to be test driven. He's good for assassin work since he's pretty stealthy. In tes6, I really do want to see an improvement to potential companions. Like give them better backgrounds and unique voices. I never saw the point in arbitrarily hiring some merc in a tavern. Lol it's not like the combat is hard... In Morrowind and Oblivion, companions weren't an option, but I'm glad for that. It probably would not have worked so well on older systems.
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