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Post by cloud9 on Jun 30, 2018 21:55:05 GMT
Man, BioWare should've learn from this.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jun 30, 2018 22:14:26 GMT
Man, BioWare should've learn from this. So you mean learn to use nudity when it is appropriate for the story? *looks at recent Bioware games where they do just that* Seems like they did learn that. Don't see how that video relates to this particular discussion though, since in that article CDPR never talks about sex scenes. In fact if articles are to be believed the scene that has the end of an one night stand has V in lingerie rather than being completely naked.
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Post by cloud9 on Jul 1, 2018 5:32:57 GMT
Man, BioWare should've learn from this. So you mean learn to use nudity when it is appropriate for the story? *looks at recent Bioware games where they do just that* Seems like they did learn that. Don't see how that video relates to this particular discussion though, since in that article CDPR never talks about sex scenes. In fact if articles are to be believed the scene that has the end of an one night stand has V in lingerie rather than being completely naked. BioWare are a bit stingy with sex and nudity but CDPR did not shy from it. Besides, Inquisition is very stingy on sex scenes and TW3 put them to shame. BioWare are amateurs compared to CDPR.
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Post by SofaJockey on Jul 5, 2018 7:44:17 GMT
Inquisition is very stingy on sex scenes and TW3 put them to shame. Disagree. DAI's scenes were varied and ranged from tender to comedic. TW3 had individual good scenes with Yen and Triss, but all the others were basically the same grunt and grind with recycled faces.
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Post by DragonKingReborn on Jul 5, 2018 8:09:51 GMT
Inquisition is very stingy on sex scenes and TW3 put them to shame. Disagree. DAI's scenes were varied and ranged from tender to comedic. TW3 had individual good scenes with Yen and Triss, but all the others were basically the same grunt and grind with recycled faces. Don't forget Cloud Sex Lady! But yeah, the "16 hours of sex scene mocap" turned out to be rather mundane for the most part, if it was true at all.
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Post by Pounce de León on Jul 6, 2018 20:16:25 GMT
Disagree. DAI's scenes were varied and ranged from tender to comedic. TW3 had individual good scenes with Yen and Triss, but all the others were basically the same grunt and grind with recycled faces. Don't forget Cloud Sex Lady! But yeah, the "16 hours of sex scene mocap" turned out to be rather mundane for the most part, if it was true at all. It'd been quite a ridiculous feat of stamina.
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Post by cloud9 on Jul 8, 2018 5:42:07 GMT
Inquisition is very stingy on sex scenes and TW3 put them to shame. Disagree. DAI's scenes were varied and ranged from tender to comedic. TW3 had individual good scenes with Yen and Triss, but all the others were basically the same grunt and grind with recycled faces. Inquisition sex scenes are mediocre and pretty much boring compared to Witcher if nothing else, and the romance is well written in mature game so far. At least Andromeda stepped up on sex scenes and that type of sexual content should've been on the Trilogy in the first place. But they didn't. Hence, stingy.
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Post by alanc9 on Jul 8, 2018 21:07:21 GMT
My take is exactly the opposite. The ME:A scenes are technically well done but offer nothing of interest. DA:I's deliver something besides the nudity.
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Post by cloud9 on Jul 9, 2018 5:31:20 GMT
My take is exactly the opposite. The ME:A scenes are technically well done but offer nothing of interest. DA:I's deliver something besides the nudity. Yeah. The romance in Inquisition is OK but it's not the best written romance ever or anything. It could've been a lot better. They're still stingy, though.
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Post by cloud9 on Jul 9, 2018 5:44:56 GMT
Disagree. DAI's scenes were varied and ranged from tender to comedic. TW3 had individual good scenes with Yen and Triss, but all the others were basically the same grunt and grind with recycled faces. Don't forget Cloud Sex Lady! But yeah, the "16 hours of sex scene mocap" turned out to be rather mundane for the most part, if it was true at all.
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Jul 9, 2018 19:29:23 GMT
Don't forget Cloud Sex Lady! But yeah, the "16 hours of sex scene mocap" turned out to be rather mundane for the most part, if it was true at all. It'd been quite a ridiculous feat of stamina. Geralt has potions.
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Post by DragonKingReborn on Jul 9, 2018 19:53:15 GMT
It'd been quite a ridiculous feat of stamina. Geralt has potions. And oils. For his...."blade"....
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Post by warden on Jul 17, 2018 10:41:15 GMT
a kiss and a fade to black, as the old days, that would be the best.
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Post by alanc9 on Jul 17, 2018 12:31:58 GMT
The old days are past and gone.
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Post by cloud9 on Jul 26, 2018 22:41:18 GMT
a kiss and a fade to black, as the old days, that would be the best. Come on. Where's the fun in that?
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Post by LogicGunn on Aug 2, 2018 20:15:23 GMT
The important thing when building a relationship (of any type) is the feeling that it's growing and strengthening. Sex scenes are an obvious way to do that in a game romance but not the only way. That said, it needs to be unambiguous, meaningful and rewarding, and that's probably why sex scenes are generally used. Games generally have a goal-reward narrative even before achievements became a thing (like boss fights or FMVs). Body language is important - think of the "romances" in the Fallout 4 to see why dialogue alone is very diluted and contrived - so whenever sex isn't a part of a romance or simply not shown, it needs to be obvious physically in some way that the couple are in a romance and not just a friendship, and it needs to match the intensity of a sex scene to feel rewarding enough. The Suvi and Josephine romances were stuck in the "home base" of their games, and I find that in a Bioware game I really want my LI to adventure with me, so I found those romances less interesting. I think Suvi's dialogue managed to address the fact that Ryder is often away and she wants her to "come home" but DAI kind of missed that. Solas' romance wasn't lacking or lesser without a sex scene, it was really deep and complex and his deepening feelings, consequent frustration and deception was well done, and Vetra's romance seems quite popular (despite the googly eyes).
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Post by Iakus on Aug 2, 2018 22:53:26 GMT
The important thing when building a relationship (of any type) is the feeling that it's growing and strengthening. Sex scenes are an obvious way to do that in a game romance but not the only way. That said, it needs to be unambiguous, meaningful and rewarding, and that's probably why sex scenes are generally used. Games generally have a goal-reward narrative even before achievements became a thing (like boss fights or FMVs). Body language is important - think of the "romances" in the Fallout 4 to see why dialogue alone is very diluted and contrived - so whenever sex isn't a part of a romance or simply not shown, it needs to be obvious physically in some way that the couple are in a romance and not just a friendship, and it needs to match the intensity of a sex scene to feel rewarding enough. The Suvi and Josephine romances were stuck in the "home base" of their games, and I find that in a Bioware game I really want my LI to adventure with me, so I found those romances less interesting. I think Suvi's dialogue managed to address the fact that Ryder is often away and she wants her to "come home" but DAI kind of missed that. Solas' romance wasn't lacking or lesser without a sex scene, it was really deep and complex and his deepening feelings, consequent frustration and deception was well done, and Vetra's romance seems quite popular (despite the googly eyes). Dialogue is dialogue. Contrived dialogue is contrived. Good dialogue is good. Romances in games have been around since the Infinity Engine and didn't need sex scenes to be effective. Bioware used to do "love talks" extra dialogue scenes you wouldn't ordinarily get as a typical companion. Now it seems you're friendzoned almost right up to the now-semi-required sex scene. Heck even as late as DAO the "bark" you got when you selected your LI would change based on your relationship. I always enjoyed that. I quite enjoyed the Josephine scene. Seriously, there's nothing wrong with cuddling with your LI in front of a fireplace to cap things off.
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Post by alanc9 on Aug 5, 2018 16:13:09 GMT
"Need" isn't a useful metric for this.
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Post by Iakus on Aug 6, 2018 15:41:52 GMT
"Need" isn't a useful metric for this. The title of the thread asks the question though.
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Post by alanc9 on Aug 8, 2018 16:06:58 GMT
Sure. The answer to that question is "no" if we're talking in the abstract. It might be a "yes" depending on customer expectations for a game in a particular market segment.
For an example from cinema, Pawel Pawlikowski ended up calling his actresses back for a reshoot to add a nude scene to My Summer of Love after he saw that the rough cut didn't work as intended; everyone seeing it said it looked like he was trying to "hide something" about the girls' relationship. Which makes sense for a European art-house picture from the 2000s. (If Emily Blunt's ever done any other such scenes, I'm not aware of them.)
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Post by jaemlichprokofien on Aug 10, 2018 21:59:29 GMT
What do you mean romance has a sex scene? Your post d(oe)snt eve:n ma:ke sense. Its perfectly reasonable to have a romance without sex, trust me, ive done it for the last six years. What is it that you are talking about subject poster?
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Post by NotN7 on Aug 11, 2018 0:35:32 GMT
What do you mean romance has a sex scene? Your post d(oe)snt eve:n ma:ke sense. Its perfectly reasonable to have a romance without sex, trust me, ive done it for the last six years. What is it that you are talking about subject poster? Speaking of sense? Huh?
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Post by cloud9 on Aug 11, 2018 0:40:39 GMT
What do you mean romance has a sex scene? Your post d(oe)snt eve:n ma:ke sense. Its perfectly reasonable to have a romance without sex, trust me, ive done it for the last six years. What is it that you are talking about subject poster? Because it's a mature game and sex is to be expected on romance. Hope that answers your question.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Aug 11, 2018 2:22:08 GMT
What do you mean romance has a sex scene? Your post d(oe)snt eve:n ma:ke sense. Its perfectly reasonable to have a romance without sex, trust me, ive done it for the last six years. What is it that you are talking about subject poster? Because it's a mature game and sex is to be expected on romance. Hope that answers your question. Except as has been discussed before and they even using themselves as an example people can have mature romantic relationships without sex.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2018 13:11:21 GMT
Because it's a mature game and sex is to be expected on romance. Hope that answers your question. Except as has been discussed before and they even using themselves as an example people can have mature romantic relationships without sex. But in video games a sex scene has become expected, hence the topic.
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