Assassins Creed Odyssey

We. Don't. Need. Bloodlines. Anymore. 
The game literally starts with that by them excavating the spear and using DNA from that. 

From them. Not their descendants. Them. So there is no reason for a child to continue the line. 

Have a kid with another person who has an Isu line in the centuries between this game and the others. There are clearly more of them than just our character, for example the main antagonist in this very DLC. 

I saw this post yesterday, but lost track of it. I’d missed most of the previous page and the top of this one.
EDIT: I also hadn’t yet seen this very page before replying, so some points are repeated.

The child wasn’t a necessity. It certainly seemed a foregone conclusion, or at least highly likely, given the emphasis on “The Bloodline”. It’s a rather pure and powerful one, after all. In early games, the animus required the user to relive memories in his or her own DNA. A direct line of descent was a must. They overcame this as of AC4, figuring out how to digitally store and access the genes. This is why a random Abstergo employee could relive the memories of Edward, Shay and Arno. (Same trick with the Fryes, too.)

Odyssey claims that the DNA of both Alexios and Kassandra was pulled from Leonidas’ spear. While that’s ridiculous, it at least establishes why Layla could pick a sibling and hope to find what she needed. Bringing this full circle, it also means that we didn’t need the protagonist to have any kids. We had his or her DNA and could relive his or her entire life if we wished.


I played a bit more today. I took the daily quest to sink pirates. I nabbed the Fire at Sea trophy from Ep 2 while sinking those ships. I decided to get the “Kill 10 enemies with Rapid Shot” trophy and the game promptly crashed. It’s ridiculous that I still have to be nervous about using Ikaros in Elis after so long. On the plus side, today’s patch 1.13 fixed all of the issues I posted about yesterday.

It will take a focused effort to “Heal by parrying 10 times with Judgment of the Lion” or whatever it’s called. I don’t use heavy blades and I rarely take damage. I’ll likely sail to the Arena in Krete and try to get it there whenever I feel like doing so. I have to move at the end of the month, and may not bother gaming much until after that. I’m also getting the Mass Effect itch, and may replay Andromeda again, soon.

EDIT continued: I see Ubi’s apology. Their intent was clear to me and is exactly what I described after this issue was first anticipated following Ep 1. They’ve been great about applying feedback these last few years, so I’m confident they’ll learn from this. I’d say that I hope they don’t feel too beat up about this, but the Internet is full of cracked nuts. I’m sure they’re getting death threats like this is serious bidness. Sigh.

dazk , Isu DNA is present in more abundance than you thought. There are many unrelated bloodlines that bear enough Isu heritage to use the PoE, access the Sixth Sense, etc... If they wanted to attribute that to one common, ancient ancestor or pair of ancestors, they’d need to revisit that abandoned Adam and Eve concept.

The games reveal that granting humans any ability to access the sixth sense, use the PoE, etc... was not universally popular. Minerva wanted to uplift humanity and see them reach their potential. Juno saw a slave race that needed to remain such. The motivations of the others are rarely expressed directly, though Tinia/Jupiter seems to have generally agreed with Minerva.

Desmond had Isu DNA on both sides. The ibn-La’Ahad, Auditore and Kenway bloodlines were separate, mingling over the years. (Altaïr was a maternal ancestor, and the Auditores paternal, IIRC.) He was special in that he had a high percentage of Isu DNA. He likely had at least one ancestor who was a Sage. Though he never knew it, Desmond ended up fathering a Sage, as well. (Sages were a device of Juno. They had not only a lot of Isu DNA, but the proper genes to partially reincarnate Aita. As a cool Odyssey crossover reference, these names were mostly Etruscan: Tinia, Minerva, Juno, Aita... In Greek, they’d be Zeus, Athena, Hera and Hades.)

I'm not sure I understand this part. True, the protag is not needed to be present since there is DNA available. However, it presents one perspective. It's doubtful the devs are going to keep going along the Kass viewpoint for the next AC and so on. However, if they're intending to go further down the Leonidas bloodline, then a descendant has to be available.

I'll give Ubisoft a benefit of the doubt, because I honestly think they probably didn't think the romance feature, or more so the gay romance feature would mean so much to many people, when in truth the romance feature is pretty bare bones fluff that doesn't matter much. I don't think they expected people to see the PC as truly their own character either.

But regardless, they did miss the mark with the DLC, if only because they lured LGBT players in with promises of treats, but then took that all away in the DLC and made the base game meaningless in terms of who you decide to seduce, romance, shag, whatever. All that roleplaying and characterization thrown out. That's a bit scummy to me.

Yeah, exactly. Although it seems to be just propaganda for the masses since the Order has absolutely no issue using Tainted ones to further their goals for power instead of exterminating them as advertised.

I wouldn't know if there is no reason to continue along the Leonidas bloodline. The narrative is controlled by the writers / devs, not the players. It is their vision, their creation, not ours. I can only postulate the direction from the updates. Right or wrong, I, as the player, chose to go along for the ride because I want to see where they intend to go with the story.  

So you meant the Leonidas bloodline would continue but not featured in the next AC installment. Ah, that I concur.   

Or not continue at all. Either works, but I always assumed it would continue. I figured they’d want to keep that door open, particularly since this game was so popular. People invested in Alexios/Kassandra might be curious to see what happens to the descendants.

Unfortunately, they successfully lured in the RPG crowd but underestimated the demand for player agency. I’m sure they’ll do better next time. Hopefully, people give them the chance to improve. Having Laidlaw in house can only help. He may not be working on AC, but I kind of hope he is. Ashraf already heads great iterations. Throw in Laidlaw and maybe the Syndicate/Odyssey team becomes the weakest (assuming a lot, including that Laidlaw gets great people)? I’d take that.