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Post by Primordial Walker on Oct 10, 2016 22:26:44 GMT
Ey gur, u like a white dwarf; hot af but not very bright.
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Post by Gaston on Oct 10, 2016 22:28:08 GMT
That works for a while but after the 6 month or 1 year mark that line will get women with options to cheat on you. I speak from experience there. What I usually do with arguments is agree and amplify. For example: Her: "Ero, I really wish you would stop talking to other women!" You: "I get it babe, I'm so attractive that any woman I talk to automatically wants to sleep with me, right? In fact just looking at them already gets them wet. I totally get it. So here is an idea: why don't you just lock me up and only let me out on a leesh with a ballgag and blindfold on. Would that make you happy?" And then she responds, "YES! Yes it WOULD make me feel better. let's go to the sex shop and get you fitted up with your new gear! I'm so happy you see things my way! And to think, it was all your suggestion!" And that's the point where YOU have to back down. If she says that in a joking manner with a smile on her face then it's all good. That means she's no longer angry or at least doesn't want to argue/fight anymore. Mission accomplished. If she says that in a serious manner then... well then that's my queue to back the fuck off and get the fuck out. I do not wanna date a woman who seriously wants to treat me like a slave or a dog.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2016 22:45:24 GMT
Yeah, when they're dating someone who is equally insecure and introverted! What you have are two people waiting for the other to make the first move. It really gets to be a sad situation. Ever try including the topic of sex as part of the conversation when getting to know the other person? ...mind you it probably would be better if that topic comes up after the 3rd date or so.... This is where having a good sense of humor can help out.
*during a break in a completely mundane conversation*
"So speaking of sex..."
Yup! But it's all how you approach the topic. If you sound whinny or desperate, then you've lost her, same with coming on too strong. Be nonchalant, like sure...sex is something you're into but it isn't the most important thing, express lightheartedly, that one day you wouldn't mind persuing a more physical type relationship but no pressure, then change the topic. Let her approach it again. If she's interested, there's a good chance she will.
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Post by Robo on Oct 10, 2016 22:46:45 GMT
Do you believe in love at first optical recognition, or should I ambulate by your location again?
(dropped that one on a sentient 3D printer a few weeks ago. we've been dating ever since.)
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Post by mattig89ch on Oct 10, 2016 22:48:59 GMT
*sigh* If only it was that simple. I've always been on the outside looking in, and my interests are no exception. Computer repair and maintenance, building computer networks, realistic sci-fi novels, D&D, and Magic the Gathering. Really don't like most fantasy either, as I don't like the whole royalty idea. Seems like most women I come into contact with are interested in riding horses, getting rescued by knights in reflective armor. And my thoughts go right to the peasants of that world. The little people, who live with mud on the floor of their houses, fighting off starvation and disease, and all the while bowing and scraping to the guy on the horse, because he has a title. See, I know there has to be girls out there who you could talk to, my oldest daughter played D&D, she built my grand daughter's computer (she also repaired the flatscreen a couple of years ago after googling the issue, and sending away for the part) and have you ever read The Chronicles of Pern? (Dragonflight, Dragonquest, The White Dragon, etc)...I don't know if you would consider that series 'realistic', but for a series that was first published in the late 60's, it is an entertaining read. And maybe you're just coming into contact with the wrong women...ew. Not sure how else to get into contact with the right women. Heck I joined meetup a few months ago, and am going to meetings with others with similar interests. I thought one of the women might have been flirting with me too. But when I approached her, asking if she was, saying that I thought she was good looking but didn't want to give her any attention she didn't want, she clammed up. I had to email her a week later, saying I had gotten the message and wasn't going to treat her any differently (IE asking her out, trying [and failing] to flirt, ect.) to get her even talking to me again. And that right there is the story of my life folks. I can never think of something to say to someone I'm interested in, and if I'm direct they run away or simply stop talking to me.
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Post by DomeWing333 on Oct 10, 2016 23:03:03 GMT
Not sure how else to get into contact with the right women. Heck I joined meetup a few months ago, and am going to meetings with others with similar interests. I thought one of the women might have been flirting with me too. But when I approached her, asking if she was, saying that I thought she was good looking but didn't want to give her any attention she didn't want, she clammed up. I had to email her a week later, saying I had gotten the message and wasn't going to treat her any differently (IE asking her out, trying [and failing] to flirt, ect.) to get her even talking to me again. And that right there is the story of my life folks. I can never think of something to say to someone I'm interested in, and if I'm direct they run away or simply stop talking to me. That just sounds like bad luck. You did everything right as far as I can tell. From her reaction, it just seems like she didn't know how to handle things one way or the other. Which is unfortunate, but not something you should let dishearten you. You seem to be approaching things with a good mindset. Approaching her took courage, accepting her response took class, and trying to keep things friendly took maturity. Now it's only a matter of luck and patience.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2016 23:28:22 GMT
And then she responds, "YES! Yes it WOULD make me feel better. let's go to the sex shop and get you fitted up with your new gear! I'm so happy you see things my way! And to think, it was all your suggestion!" And that's the point where YOU have to back down. If she says that in a joking manner with a smile on her face then it's all good. That means she's no longer angry or at least doesn't want to argue/fight anymore. Mission accomplished. If she says that in a serious manner then... well then that's my queue to back the fuck off and get the fuck out. I do not wanna date a woman who seriously wants to treat me like a slave or a dog. Aaaand women feel the same way about men....LOL They don't want to be debased or insulted just like you just suggested with the attitude you just displayed. And If you have an "A" type personality girlfriend, she just called your bluff....and you're gonna run? OK. See, that situation I presented should have one of two effects ...It'll either shrink your d--k, or enlarge it. You, my friend just proved you are no match for a REAL "A"type personality. A REAL "A" type would see her words as a challenge and either graciously admit defeat and lose that bogus, macho attitude or take her up on the challenge and drag her out to the sex shop for your gear fitting. Either way, the make out sex would be real fun.
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Post by Gaston on Oct 10, 2016 23:42:21 GMT
My experiences proves this to not be true. In my experience a lot of women often say they want one thing but really want the other thing. I have no doubt women really want a nice, reliable guy, but somehow for some reason almost all women turn down guys who are following the "just be yourself" advice. Especially insecure and introvert guys will simply NOT get laid by "just being yourself", unless they are exceptionally handsome, they just don't. So in order to get a woman, nice introvert guys have to convey a persona that above all else establishes confidence and a sense of humor. Basically, to sum it all up, women are attracted to men with alpha male traits. If you don't have these traits you have to develop them. If you don't know how to present these traits you're gonna have to learn how to do that. "Nice guys" truly do finish last lads, don't let any woman who isn't giving you sex convince you otherwise. I think it has less to do with having a nice/bad attitude and more to do with the ability to get a person's attention. Introvertive personalities have a tendency to lay low and blend in with the crowd. People with more assertive personalities are better at drawing attention to themselves, which leads to a connection, which leads to...other kinds of connections.
Also, being a nice, introvertive guy and having "a persona that above all else establishes confidence and a sense of humor" are not mutually exclusive. Nor do alpha male traits necessarily overlap with that (I mean it often does, but being too alpha male can also betray a sense of insecurity and bluster).
So, I don't think you need to be an alpha male in order to get someone's attention, you just have to be surprising. A breath of fresh air. In fact, for a woman who's regularly around alpha male-types, someone who's specifically not might fare better.
This is all observation and speculation on my part though.
Lots of speculation for everyone! :^) But nah, that's a very good point mate. I agree with almost all of what you just said. Except that I do not agree that being "alpha" and being surprising/breath of fresh air are all that different. When I say "alpha" I'm not talking about some kind of lift-bro meathead with rockin' abs and a "IDGAF" -attitude. What I mean is a man who has reproductive value and is capable of conveying that value to the woman he's interested in. Lengthy post incoming. TL;DR version at the bottom.
You see, women are not as shallow and easy as most of us men. What do we men desire when it comes to women? For starters, good looks are desirable (any man who says otherwise is lying and simply justifying him chasing mediocre-looking women because he thinks he has a better shot with them). Good looks = good genetics and our monkey brains are hardwired to seek out partners with good genetics. It all comes down to our primal instincts to reproduce. This primal monkey instinct of ours greatly affects what we find attractive in women. Obviously a good personality is desirable too when you're looking for more than just sex (and most of us are). Good personality traits that most men find attractive are altruism, empathy, a bit of shyness, and a bit of a submissive attitude. These qualities all boil down to her being a good caretaker. Our monkey brains are hardwired to seek out women who are capable of being good mothers and taking good care of our children when we're out hunting working to provide the household with money and supplies. And what else? Well, obviously she has to be into you, and I think with that we pretty much sum it up. Whether you're an introvert or an extrovert like me, whether you actually want kids or not, it makes no real difference, these qualities I just listed will get most guys of both types interested, because we are hardwired to find these qualities desirable. But what women are attracted to (either consciously or subconsciously) is a bit more complicated in my experience. Some women might not even know or realize what they really are attracted to, but through my experiences and through sharing knowledge with other men I've been able to get a pretty decent idea on what most women generally find attractive, and it's actually quite different from what us men find attractive. There are similarities, but also quite a few differences. And again it boils down to their primal instinct to reproduce. But reproduction is completely different for women. Because they are the ones who are going to be pregnant for 9 months, then have to breastfeed the child for several months and most of the time they're also the ones who raise the children. Just like men, women will subconsciously also seek out men with good genetics. So they also focus on looks, but less than us men. This does not necessarily mean muscular though, because any man can get muscular by spending enough time at the gym (though being muscular does help). What is more important than muscles is a symmetrical angular face (a sign that you have a good amount of testosterone), being in shape (a bit of a belly isn't necessarily a turn off because it shows you are well off, but being obese is bad because it shows you have low impulse control and don't take good care of yourself) and that's pretty much it. Whether you won the genetic lottery or not, is not important to attract women though, because women pay attention to far more things than just that. Perhaps the most important thing when it comes to attracting women is grooming yourself properly, because it shows you take good care of yourself. This is because their monkey brain is hardwired to seek out providers, men who can take good care of them. A man who can take good care of himself, can probably take good care of her as well. So good skin with a nice haircut and/or a groomed beard and a nice well-fitted outfit will probably get you a long way, at least when it comes to leaving a good first impression. Which leaves us with personality and social status, which is what women will by far put the most importance on when it comes to attraction. You can be a hot muscular stud with abs, a slick haircut and an expensive Gucci suit, if your social skills and social status are shit, you still won't get laid (well, you might get laid, but don't expect anything more than slutty women and casual sex... occasionally... you're not going to be very successful with women without a solid persona, period). On the other hand, if you're a mediocre-looking guy, with cheap clothes and a simple buzz cut, you can still be reasonably successful women if your persona is absolutely fucking solid and you have a good social status. Again, this boils down to their primal instincts. A woman's brain is more hardwired to be monogamous than our brain is. That's why there is this stereotype that men are cheating pigs while women only cheat when they have a good reason to do so (that stereotype is mostly bollocks these days but it does have a kernel of truth to it from a historical point of view). Historically, the most successful reproduction tactic for men is to impregnate as many women as possible, but for women this is not possible. They only can get pregnant once every 9 months and even after the baby is born they still have to breastfeed it and raise it. So when they get pregnant, they better make it count! Hence women are more hardwired to locking down men in monogamous relationships and making sure that man is A ) a good provider and B ) someone who can protect her and her children and C ) a pleasant person to be around with. And this is why status and social skills are super important if you want to attract women. These days, being a good provider means being a go-getter with a can-do attitude who gets things done. Someone with a successful career or at the very least someone who reliably brings income to the household. These days, someone who can protect her means someone with a dominant personality, high social status and someone who is trustworthy. And finally, these days, being a pleasant person means... I don't know, I suppose each woman has a different view on what she finds pleasant, but one thing pretty much every single woman always finds pleasant and desirable is a man with confidence and a sense of humor. And that's basically what "being alpha" boils down to. It simply boils down to being successful as a provider, being successful at protecting her and being a pleasant person to hang around with. Of course, everything I wrote above needs to be taken with a grain of salt. I'm not saying we're all a bunch of cave monkeys who can't think beyond their primal instincts, but our primal instincts do greatly influence the dating and relationship game and you would be a fool to deny that. Basically the TL;DR version of this entire rant would be: Be successful in other aspects of your life and be capable of conveying your success and value to a woman. That's it, that's all it takes to be "alpha" and to be successful with women, in my experience at least.
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Post by Gaston on Oct 10, 2016 23:53:22 GMT
If she says that in a joking manner with a smile on her face then it's all good. That means she's no longer angry or at least doesn't want to argue/fight anymore. Mission accomplished. If she says that in a serious manner then... well then that's my queue to back the fuck off and get the fuck out. I do not wanna date a woman who seriously wants to treat me like a slave or a dog. Aaaand women feel the same way about men....LOL They don't want to be debased or insulted just like you just suggested with the attitude you just displayed. And If you have an "A" type personality girlfriend, she just called your bluff....and you're gonna run? OK. See, that situation I presented should have one of two effects ...It'll either shrink your d--k, or enlarge it. You, my friend just proved you are no match for a REAL "A"type personality. A REAL "A" type would see her words as a challenge and either graciously admit defeat and lose that bogus, macho attitude or take her up on the challenge and drag her out to the sex shop for your gear fitting. Either way, the make out sex would be real fun. What part about my post/suggestion/attitude was debasing or insulting? The types of women I date would not seriously want to drag me over the street with a ball gag and leash. It's not something I'm interested in. I'm a dom, not a sub. So dom women are not a match for me (not as in that I cannot handle them, but as in that I'm simply not interested in them). Not saying there is anything wrong with dom women, but when a woman wants to dominate me like that, she's not the woman for me. So yes, if she seriously wants to take me up on that ball gag and leash suggestion, then that is my queue to look for another girlfriend, because she would not be the girl for me. For the type of women I date, the earlier example of agreeing and amplifying works to nip an argument in the butt before the argument even takes place. There is nothing wrong with that, is there? But what you said here is irrelevant anyway, because a REAL "A" type woman would never act insecure about her boyfriend talking to other women nor would they turn it into a problem, right? Or am I wrong? Edit: Also, I'm not arguing that women should be my slaves nor do I want them to be. I prefer submissive women, but that doesn't mean I won't treat them like equals. God, this always happens though. The moment a guy mentions he prefers submissive women, people automatically assume that guy must me some kind of misogynistic pig who treats his women like shit. For fucks sake you guys, this is not the case. ;
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2016 0:14:21 GMT
Aaaand women feel the same way about men....LOL They don't want to be debased or insulted just like you just suggested with the attitude you just displayed. And If you have an "A" type personality girlfriend, she just called your bluff....and you're gonna run? OK. See, that situation I presented should have one of two effects ...It'll either shrink your d--k, or enlarge it. You, my friend just proved you are no match for a REAL "A"type personality. A REAL "A" type would see her words as a challenge and either graciously admit defeat and lose that bogus, macho attitude or take her up on the challenge and drag her out to the sex shop for your gear fitting. Either way, the make out sex would be real fun. What part about my post/suggestion/attitude was debasing or insulting? For the type of women I date, the earlier example of agreeing and amplifying works to nip an argument in the butt before the argument even takes place. There is nothing wrong with that, is there? But what you say is irrelevant anyway, because a REAL "A" type woman would never act insecure about her boyfriend talking to other women nor would they turn it into a problem, right? By agreeing and amplifying, instead of addressing her concerns, yeah that's debasing her because it shows you're more concerned about your image than you are about her. Why should a woman have to put your image, before her own concerns? And if your girlfriend were to talk to another guy, how would you react? Would you be cool with it? EMPATHY my friend, that's what society lacks. You're so worried about presenting yourself as the 'dominate' and your girlfriends as the 'submissive', but what about as just being people? Not adversaries, not lables, just 2 humans living in a bs world who have feelings and concerns that may or may not affect the relationship. Sorry, but hiding behind some bs facade to avoid a confrontation and a mature discussion, is kind of jamming out on the relationship.
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Post by Gaston on Oct 11, 2016 0:41:03 GMT
What part about my post/suggestion/attitude was debasing or insulting? For the type of women I date, the earlier example of agreeing and amplifying works to nip an argument in the butt before the argument even takes place. There is nothing wrong with that, is there? But what you say is irrelevant anyway, because a REAL "A" type woman would never act insecure about her boyfriend talking to other women nor would they turn it into a problem, right? By agreeing and amplifying, instead of addressing her concerns, yeah that's debasing her because it shows you're more concerned about your image than you are about her. Why should a woman have to put your image, before her own concerns? And if your girlfriend were to talk to another guy, how would you react? Would you be cool with it? EMPATHY my friend, that's what society lacks. You're so worried about presenting yourself as the 'dominate' and your girlfriends as the 'submissive', but what about as just being people? Not adversaries, not lables, just 2 humans living in a bs world who have feelings and concerns that may or may not affect the relationship. Sorry, but hiding behind some bs facade to avoid a confrontation and a mature discussion, is kind of jamming out on the relationship. I can see why you might think it's debasing. I disagree though. And this has nothing to do with my image either. Sometimes people just raise such silly concerns that the only way to deal with them is to point out how unnecessary and silly it is. If I would address her concern seriously, I'd indirectly admit that her concern is a serious legit one. But it isn't. You might not believe me, but I would NEVER cheat on a woman, not in any way whatsoever. I've been at the other end, I've been cheated on, I know how horrible it is. I'd never wanna do that to a woman, much less a woman I love and care about. So when my girlfriend walks up to me and says "I don't want you to talk to other women!" what the fuck am I supposed to say to that other than agreeing and amplifying? First of all, if she would say it exactly like that, I would find it incredibly disrespectful. You don't get to make demands of me like that in such a fashion, it's disrespectful and I wouldn't do that to her either. So agreeing and amplifying is how I deal with that shit. Now, if she would say it like: "I don't like you talking to those other women." then the concern would still be a groundless, silly concern, but I'd already be more willing to work with that in a mature fashion. But still, how would I convince her that her concern is absolutely groundless and silly other than by agreeing and amplifying or making a joke about it? Sure, I could say: "Hunny, you have nothing to worry about, I would never cheat on you!" But if she already doesn't trust me enough to let me talk to other women, then how is she going to trust me on that? It's pointless and it will only lead to unnecessary arguments. Another way I could deal with it is by asking: "Why do you feel that way?" (<- that's a fucking classic to be honest, asking a woman about her feelings is another great way of diffusing arguments in my experience.) She then gives some reason as to why she feels that way, we can talk about it, and look for a solution (if there is one). Not gonna lie, that works too, and sometimes this is the better option, but sometimes just showing her how ridiculous her concern is in the first place is also a great and much less tedious way of solving such non-issues. If she raises a legit concern, I wouldn't just brush it off with an agree and amplify or a joke. I'd always go for the "why do you feel that way?" route. But with silly shit like "I don't like you talking to those other women" I might choose to go for the agree and amplify route. It's sweet that you think I worry so much about stuff, but the only thing I worry about it my happiness (and when I have a girlfriend, her happiness too). I just use all these labels as descriptors. It doesn't mean they're things I worry about, hahaha. And if you think anything I say or do is a facade, you'd be wrong on that account too. If anything, I'm often in the (bad?) habit of being too open and too honest about my opinions, views and how I see/do things. I've been working on that to be honest, because I've hurt people's feelings with this habit more times than I'd like to admit. Luckily my current date loves my direct, no-nonsense honesty. Trust me, you and I probably agree on more things than we disagree on. We just have a different way of going about it.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2016 0:52:53 GMT
By agreeing and amplifying, instead of addressing her concerns, yeah that's debasing her because it shows you're more concerned about your image than you are about her. Why should a woman have to put your image, before her own concerns? And if your girlfriend were to talk to another guy, how would you react? Would you be cool with it? EMPATHY my friend, that's what society lacks. You're so worried about presenting yourself as the 'dominate' and your girlfriends as the 'submissive', but what about as just being people? Not adversaries, not lables, just 2 humans living in a bs world who have feelings and concerns that may or may not affect the relationship. Sorry, but hiding behind some bs facade to avoid a confrontation and a mature discussion, is kind of jamming out on the relationship. I can see why you might think it's debasing. I disagree though. And this has nothing to do with my image either. Sometimes people just raise such silly concerns that the only way to deal with them is to point out how unnecessary and silly it is. If I would address her concern seriously, I'd indirectly admit that her concern is a serious legit one. But it isn't. You might not believe me, but I would NEVER cheat on a woman, not in any way whatsoever. I've been at the other end, I've been cheated on, I know how horrible it is. I'd never wanna do that to a woman, much less a woman I love and care about. So when my girlfriend walks up to me and says "I don't want you to talk to other women!" what the fuck am I supposed to say to that other than agreeing and amplifying? First of all, if she would say it exactly like that, I would find it incredibly disrespectful. You don't get to make demands of me like that in such a fashion, it's disrespectful and I wouldn't do that to her either. So agreeing and amplifying is how I deal with that shit. Now, if she would say it like: "I don't like you talking to those other women." then the concern would still be a groundless, silly concern, but I'd already be more willing to work with that in a mature fashion. But still, how would I convince her that her concern is absolutely groundless and silly other than by agreeing and amplifying or making a joke about it? Sure, I could say: "Hunny, you have nothing to worry about, I would never cheat on you!" But if she already doesn't trust me enough to let me talk to other women, then how is she going to trust me on that? It's pointless and it will only lead to unnecessary arguments. Another way I could deal with it is by asking: "Why do you feel that way?" (<- that's a fucking classic to be honest, asking a woman about her feelings is another great way of diffusing arguments in my experience.) She then gives some reason as to why she feels that way, we can talk about it, and look for a solution (if there is one). Not gonna lie, that works too, and sometimes this is the better option, but sometimes just showing her how ridiculous her concern is in the first place is also a great and much less tedious way of solving such non-issues. If she raises a legit concern, I wouldn't just brush it off with an agree and amplify or a joke. I'd always go for the "why do you feel that way?" route. But with silly shit like "I don't like you talking to those other women" I might choose to go for the agree and amplify route. It's sweet that you think I worry so much about stuff, but the only thing I worry about it my happiness (and when I have a girlfriend, her happiness too). I just use all these labels as descriptors. It doesn't mean they're things I worry about, hahaha. And if you think anything I say or do is a facade, you'd be wrong on that account too. If anything, I'm often in the (bad?) habit of being too open and too honest about my opinions, views and how I see/do things. I've been working on that to be honest, because I've hurt people's feelings with this habit more times than I'd like to admit. Luckily my current date loves my direct, no-nonsense honesty. Trust me, you and I probably agree on more things than we disagree on. We just have a different way of going about it. I think I agree with you there. Just your explaination clarified some things. It's good to hear you and your girlfriend have an agreeable relationship, you two keep it real,ok. I just found your first comments a bit flippant, but now that I see it in a different context, I get it now. Best wishes for you both.
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Post by Gaston on Oct 11, 2016 1:06:36 GMT
I think I agree with you there. Just your explaination clarified some things. It's good to hear you and your girlfriend have an agreeable relationship, you two keep it real,ok. I just found your first comments a bit flippant, but now that I see it in a different context, I get it now. Best wishes for you both. Thanks! I'm glad to hear that! She is not my girlfriend yet though, but I want her to be. She probably will be soon, but she's the shy, introverted type, who is much younger than me and who has had her heart broken by other assholes before me, so she is willing, but also a little hesitant, which is understandable. So I've decided to take it slow with this one, build up a good amount of trust and comfort between us, before I take it to the next level. For my own sake as well. To get back on topic: I used the "you look like trouble" opener on this girl when I met her and it worked like a charm. Previously I only used it on extroverted girls, but apparently it also works on introverts. PS: I hope your daughter will find a new boyfriend soon, hopefully one who is even cooler than the previous one.
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Post by The Hype Himself on Oct 11, 2016 1:14:11 GMT
I'm not one for pick-up lines.
I'm generally too intense of a person to bother with dating. Probably for the better.
Romance/attachment is a want for me. I wonder how much greater of a person if I could ignore it better. I'm not exactly fit for relationships, and it's irritating for me to deal with people in terms of attractiveness and dating. I need to harden more emotionally; even I'm not perfect.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2016 1:27:19 GMT
I think I agree with you there. Just your explaination clarified some things. It's good to hear you and your girlfriend have an agreeable relationship, you two keep it real,ok. I just found your first comments a bit flippant, but now that I see it in a different context, I get it now. Best wishes for you both. Thanks! I'm glad to hear that! She is not my girlfriend yet though, but I want her to be. She probably will be soon, but she's the shy, introverted type, who is much younger than me and who has had her heart broken by other assholes before me, so she is willing, but also a little hesitant, which is understandable. So I've decided to take it slow with this one, build up a good amount of trust and comfort between us, before I take it to the next level. For my own sake as well. To get back on topic: I used the "you look like trouble" opener on this girl when I met her and it worked like a charm. Previously I only used it on extroverted girls, but apparently it also works on introverts. PS: I hope your daughter will find a new boyfriend soon, hopefully one who is even cooler than the previous one. LOL...I can see that line working exeptionally well on an introvert. It would definitely pique their curiosity! I can see her wondering why you would say that. Hee hee. I'm rootin' for the 2 of you, treat eachother well. kay. As for my bundle of joy...her relationships are her own, I'm just here to cheer her on or be a shoulder she can cry on. *sigh*
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2016 2:18:08 GMT
I'm not one for pick-up lines. I'm generally too intense of a person to bother with dating. Probably for the better. Romance/attachment is a want for me. I wonder how much greater of a person if I could ignore it better. I'm not exactly fit for relationships, and it's irritating for me to deal with people in terms of attractiveness and dating. I need to harden more emotionally; even I'm not perfect. NO! Hawkeye! Say it isn't so! But seriously, I understand the whole being irritated by dating thing, but I don't know why you don't see yourself fit for relationships. I don't know you well, but you seem to be a very smart, likable guy. Is it your opinion of other people? You seem to have a pretty good handle on your self-confidence and pride, so you don't strike me as having many, if any, insecurities. If you were really interested in a relationship, I can't see anything stopping you, except how you see other people?? Maybe? Or is it a cynical view on relationships as a whole? *sigh* I am perplexed. Sir.
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Post by Gaston on Oct 11, 2016 3:11:52 GMT
I'm not one for pick-up lines. I'm generally too intense of a person to bother with dating. Probably for the better. Romance/attachment is a want for me. I wonder how much greater of a person if I could ignore it better. I'm not exactly fit for relationships, and it's irritating for me to deal with people in terms of attractiveness and dating. I need to harden more emotionally; even I'm not perfect. Your hair color is too intense for dating. :^)And yes, we already established that you aren't perfect to moment we saw your hair. :^)Please moddu don't ban me plz itz just a prank brah ITS JUST A PRANK BRAH! Can we at least all accept though that being into gingers is a fetish? Also, I read somewhere that gingers are more likely to be islamophiles and more likely to join ISIS than non-ginger white people. But that's another story for another time.
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Post by The Hype Himself on Oct 11, 2016 4:40:53 GMT
I'm not one for pick-up lines. I'm generally too intense of a person to bother with dating. Probably for the better. Romance/attachment is a want for me. I wonder how much greater of a person if I could ignore it better. I'm not exactly fit for relationships, and it's irritating for me to deal with people in terms of attractiveness and dating. I need to harden more emotionally; even I'm not perfect. NO! Hawkeye! Say it isn't so! But seriously, I understand the whole being irritated by dating thing, but I don't know why you don't see yourself fit for relationships. I don't know you well, but you seem to be a very smart, likable guy. Is it your opinion of other people? You seem to have a pretty good handle on your self-confidence and pride, so you don't strike me as having many, if any, insecurities. If you were really interested in a relationship, I can't see anything stopping you, except how you see other people?? Maybe? Or is it a cynical view on relationships as a whole? *sigh* I am perplexed. Sir. Many I know would say that's an apt comparison with Mr. Spock. I'm much more of the handshake and slap-on-the-shoulder type after all. That's part of it, yes. I have insecurities, but not in total personal matters; I'm a guy who knows who and what I am, and how what I am differs from a lot of the norm for people. Which is where how I see other people comes in. My issue is that I have terrifically high expectations of other people to be as... shall we say, rational and unemotional as I am. Also, I'm sure plenty here would dispute my likability (for which I don't have much concern). Many people find my emotional distance and coldness to be off-putting, but not nearly so much as my intense personality. I'm arrogant. I'm prideful. And I'm reasonably comfortable with that identity, even with awareness of how others tend to think of that perspective. A good way to say it is that I'm intimidating, unapproachable in my stance. To... not contradict another poster who claimed being an A-type personality is what is needed, but to provide an addendum, I'm a person who sees things inherently as a competition. I stack myself up against others, and I would honestly say that the single greatest reason I have done what I have done with my life is not just the level of interest, but my desire for dominance. The desire, the want, to excel above and beyond. It's why you see me here, willing to dig my feet in the dirt and argue to the absolute last breath, and go down fighting. It's as much a boon as it is a bane. I can rationalize it with what I do to claim an objective, public good, but I recognize that it sets me up personally as a failure of a human being on that personal level. I recognize that, and in some ways, my insecurities draw from that. It's inherently difficult to regard any woman with interest when I'm, from the get-go, comparing myself to them; If I'm 'greater', so to speak, I don't have interest. If they're greater, I'm intrigued, but I'm also challenged and intimidated myself, and I work to overcome that difference where possible. If I am to overcome them however, they go into the first category. I am an A-type personality; but I'm the kind who takes that to the logical extreme (psychologically speaking) to which I am so aggressive that I not only fundamentally lack a common connection to draw on with people, but in which I do admit that I intellectually find it difficult to want to be anything different. And as a person such as me that puts that intellectual concern ahead of emotional ones for myself. I both acknowledge that, and am insecure in that. I quite literally think 'why would I want this girl to rain on my own perfection.' As you might also realize, I'm an egomaniac and borderline narcissist. Those are my flaws. I'm aware of them. The disconnect for me comes into wanting to change. I can 'want' to change on an esoteric, abstract level, but I can't want to put that into action. To put it another way, I... I don't want to hunt for flaws in others per se, but I have a great deal of issues with reconciling those flaws, that 'humanity' with how I see things. I'm the type of person who is 'always on', if you get my meaning. Shit, sorry for the rant! If there's one thing I love doing (for better or worse), it's talking about myself!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2016 6:33:31 GMT
NO! Hawkeye! Say it isn't so! But seriously, I understand the whole being irritated by dating thing, but I don't know why you don't see yourself fit for relationships. I don't know you well, but you seem to be a very smart, likable guy. Is it your opinion of other people? You seem to have a pretty good handle on your self-confidence and pride, so you don't strike me as having many, if any, insecurities. If you were really interested in a relationship, I can't see anything stopping you, except how you see other people?? Maybe? Or is it a cynical view on relationships as a whole? *sigh* I am perplexed. Sir. Many I know would say that's an apt comparison with Mr. Spock. I'm much more of the handshake and slap-on-the-shoulder type after all. That's part of it, yes. I have insecurities, but not in total personal matters; I'm a guy who knows who and what I am, and how what I am differs from a lot of the norm for people. Which is where how I see other people comes in. My issue is that I have terrifically high expectations of other people to be as... shall we say, rational and unemotional as I am. Also, I'm sure plenty here would dispute my likability (for which I don't have much concern). Many people find my emotional distance and coldness to be off-putting, but not nearly so much as my intense personality. I'm arrogant. I'm prideful. And I'm reasonably comfortable with that identity, even with awareness of how others tend to think of that perspective. A good way to say it is that I'm intimidating, unapproachable in my stance. To... not contradict another poster who claimed being an A-type personality is what is needed, but to provide an addendum, I'm a person who sees things inherently as a competition. I stack myself up against others, and I would honestly say that the single greatest reason I have done what I have done with my life is not just the level of interest, but my desire for dominance. The desire, the want, to excel above and beyond. It's why you see me here, willing to dig my feet in the dirt and argue to the absolute last breath, and go down fighting. It's as much a boon as it is a bane. I can rationalize it with what I do to claim an objective, public good, but I recognize that it sets me up personally as a failure of a human being on that personal level. I recognize that, and in some ways, my insecurities draw from that. It's inherently difficult to regard any woman with interest when I'm, from the get-go, comparing myself to them; If I'm 'greater', so to speak, I don't have interest. If they're greater, I'm intrigued, but I'm also challenged and intimidated myself, and I work to overcome that difference where possible. If I am to overcome them however, they go into the first category. I am an A-type personality; but I'm the kind who takes that to the logical extreme (psychologically speaking) to which I am so aggressive that I not only fundamentally lack a common connection to draw on with people, but in which I do admit that I intellectually find it difficult to want to be anything different. And as a person such as me that puts that intellectual concern ahead of emotional ones for myself. I both acknowledge that, and am insecure in that. I quite literally think 'why would I want this girl to rain on my own perfection.' As you might also realize, I'm an egomaniac and borderline narcissist. Those are my flaws. I'm aware of them. The disconnect for me comes into wanting to change. I can 'want' to change on an esoteric, abstract level, but I can't want to put that into action. To put it another way, I... I don't want to hunt for flaws in others per se, but I have a great deal of issues with reconciling those flaws, that 'humanity' with how I see things. I'm the type of person who is 'always on', if you get my meaning. Shit, sorry for the rant! If there's one thing I love doing (for better or worse), it's talking about myself! We all have our crosses to bare, Hawkeye. Being an egocentric, borderline narcissist inclined to extreme stubborness and a penchant for self-exposition isn't a bad thing if you can acknowledge it and learn something from it.
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Post by Serza on Oct 11, 2016 6:42:32 GMT
That works for a while but after the 6 month or 1 year mark that line will get women with options to cheat on you. I speak from experience there. What I usually do with arguments is agree and amplify. For example: Her: "Ero, I really wish you would stop talking to other women!" You: "I get it babe, I'm so attractive that any woman I talk to automatically wants to sleep with me, right? In fact just looking at them already gets them wet. I totally get it. So here is an idea: why don't you just lock me up and only let me out on a leesh with a ballgag and blindfold on. Would that make you happy?" And then she responds, "YES! Yes it WOULD make me feel better. let's go to the sex shop and get you fitted up with your new gear! I'm so happy you see things my way! And to think, it was all your suggestion!" And that's the point where YOU have to back down. That's the moment you jump the fuck out the window and keep running until you find a foxhole to dig in. Ey gur, u like a white dwarf; hot af but not very bright. So, here's this... I saw this quote some time back. "She's a woman, not a temperature. Call her beautiful, not hot." And then she responds, "YES! Yes it WOULD make me feel better. let's go to the sex shop and get you fitted up with your new gear! I'm so happy you see things my way! And to think, it was all your suggestion!" And that's the point where YOU have to back down. If she says that in a joking manner with a smile on her face then it's all good. That means she's no longer angry or at least doesn't want to argue/fight anymore. Mission accomplished. If she says that in a serious manner then... well then that's my queue to back the fuck off and get the fuck out. I do not wanna date a woman who seriously wants to treat me like a slave or a dog. FOXHOLE! See, I know there has to be girls out there who you could talk to, my oldest daughter played D&D, she built my grand daughter's computer (she also repaired the flatscreen a couple of years ago after googling the issue, and sending away for the part) and have you ever read The Chronicles of Pern? (Dragonflight, Dragonquest, The White Dragon, etc)...I don't know if you would consider that series 'realistic', but for a series that was first published in the late 60's, it is an entertaining read. And maybe you're just coming into contact with the wrong women...ew. Not sure how else to get into contact with the right women. Heck I joined meetup a few months ago, and am going to meetings with others with similar interests. I thought one of the women might have been flirting with me too. But when I approached her, asking if she was, saying that I thought she was good looking but didn't want to give her any attention she didn't want, she clammed up. I had to email her a week later, saying I had gotten the message and wasn't going to treat her any differently (IE asking her out, trying [and failing] to flirt, ect.) to get her even talking to me again. And that right there is the story of my life folks. I can never think of something to say to someone I'm interested in, and if I'm direct they run away or simply stop talking to me. Ah, sounds like... horrible luck. Better luck next time... Meanwhile I'll go back to worrying.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2016 6:56:20 GMT
And then she responds, "YES! Yes it WOULD make me feel better. let's go to the sex shop and get you fitted up with your new gear! I'm so happy you see things my way! And to think, it was all your suggestion!" And that's the point where YOU have to back down. That's the moment you jump the fuck out the window and keep running until you find a foxhole to dig in. Ey gur, u like a white dwarf; hot af but not very bright. So, here's this... I saw this quote some time back. "She's a woman, not a temperature. Call her beautiful, not hot." If she says that in a joking manner with a smile on her face then it's all good. That means she's no longer angry or at least doesn't want to argue/fight anymore. Mission accomplished. If she says that in a serious manner then... well then that's my queue to back the fuck off and get the fuck out. I do not wanna date a woman who seriously wants to treat me like a slave or a dog. FOXHOLE! Not sure how else to get into contact with the right women. Heck I joined meetup a few months ago, and am going to meetings with others with similar interests. I thought one of the women might have been flirting with me too. But when I approached her, asking if she was, saying that I thought she was good looking but didn't want to give her any attention she didn't want, she clammed up. I had to email her a week later, saying I had gotten the message and wasn't going to treat her any differently (IE asking her out, trying [and failing] to flirt, ect.) to get her even talking to me again. And that right there is the story of my life folks. I can never think of something to say to someone I'm interested in, and if I'm direct they run away or simply stop talking to me. Ah, sounds like... horrible luck. Better luck next time... Meanwhile I'll go back to worrying. Serza's comments...PRICELESS! get in your foxhole little guy...get in your foxhole! Bah hahaha.
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Post by Primordial Walker on Oct 11, 2016 11:05:04 GMT
>tfw silly irrelevant pick-up lines are taken seriously
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Post by corpusdei on Oct 11, 2016 11:36:00 GMT
Not so much a pick up line, but for us bruhs already in relationships I have a line that will let you absolutely dominate every argument. That works for a while but after the 6 month or 1 year mark that line will get women with options to cheat on you. I speak from experience there. What I usually do with arguments is agree and amplify. For example: Her: "Ero, I really wish you would stop talking to other women!"You: "I get it babe, I'm so attractive that any woman I talk to automatically wants to sleep with me, right? In fact just looking at them already gets them wet. I totally get it. So here is an idea: why don't you just lock me up and only let me out on a leesh with a ballgag and blindfold on. Would that make you happy?" ^ At which point you walk ... if she doesn't trust you, or you her, what's the point? It's not gonna work long-term.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2016 11:43:08 GMT
NO! Hawkeye! Say it isn't so! But seriously, I understand the whole being irritated by dating thing, but I don't know why you don't see yourself fit for relationships. I don't know you well, but you seem to be a very smart, likable guy. Is it your opinion of other people? You seem to have a pretty good handle on your self-confidence and pride, so you don't strike me as having many, if any, insecurities. If you were really interested in a relationship, I can't see anything stopping you, except how you see other people?? Maybe? Or is it a cynical view on relationships as a whole? *sigh* I am perplexed. Sir. Many I know would say that's an apt comparison with Mr. Spock. I'm much more of the handshake and slap-on-the-shoulder type after all. That's part of it, yes. I have insecurities, but not in total personal matters; I'm a guy who knows who and what I am, and how what I am differs from a lot of the norm for people. Which is where how I see other people comes in. My issue is that I have terrifically high expectations of other people to be as... shall we say, rational and unemotional as I am. Also, I'm sure plenty here would dispute my likability (for which I don't have much concern). Many people find my emotional distance and coldness to be off-putting, but not nearly so much as my intense personality. I'm arrogant. I'm prideful. And I'm reasonably comfortable with that identity, even with awareness of how others tend to think of that perspective. A good way to say it is that I'm intimidating, unapproachable in my stance. To... not contradict another poster who claimed being an A-type personality is what is needed, but to provide an addendum, I'm a person who sees things inherently as a competition. I stack myself up against others, and I would honestly say that the single greatest reason I have done what I have done with my life is not just the level of interest, but my desire for dominance. The desire, the want, to excel above and beyond. It's why you see me here, willing to dig my feet in the dirt and argue to the absolute last breath, and go down fighting. It's as much a boon as it is a bane. I can rationalize it with what I do to claim an objective, public good, but I recognize that it sets me up personally as a failure of a human being on that personal level. I recognize that, and in some ways, my insecurities draw from that. It's inherently difficult to regard any woman with interest when I'm, from the get-go, comparing myself to them; If I'm 'greater', so to speak, I don't have interest. If they're greater, I'm intrigued, but I'm also challenged and intimidated myself, and I work to overcome that difference where possible. If I am to overcome them however, they go into the first category. I am an A-type personality; but I'm the kind who takes that to the logical extreme (psychologically speaking) to which I am so aggressive that I not only fundamentally lack a common connection to draw on with people, but in which I do admit that I intellectually find it difficult to want to be anything different. And as a person such as me that puts that intellectual concern ahead of emotional ones for myself. I both acknowledge that, and am insecure in that. I quite literally think 'why would I want this girl to rain on my own perfection.' As you might also realize, I'm an egomaniac and borderline narcissist. Those are my flaws. I'm aware of them. The disconnect for me comes into wanting to change. I can 'want' to change on an esoteric, abstract level, but I can't want to put that into action. To put it another way, I... I don't want to hunt for flaws in others per se, but I have a great deal of issues with reconciling those flaws, that 'humanity' with how I see things. I'm the type of person who is 'always on', if you get my meaning. Shit, sorry for the rant! If there's one thing I love doing (for better or worse), it's talking about myself!
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