Random flat Earth chit chat

Damn she is hot. Must be all that global warming I've been hearing about.

Anyway, may as well inform you all on the latest hot subject in the FE Debate circles. The so called black swan argument;




Basically the geometric horizon, according to earth curve calculator, needs to be before the first oil platform. That it can be seen well past the second oil platform...

So how are the ballers handling this argument online? Well, now they claim they've never claimed a geometric horizon and that it's always apparent (not physical). Others still cling onto the geometric horizon. Others double speak back and forth between the two positions. And others say at best the we've disproven the radius of the earth. 


^ In this short clip of a debate, we see back and forth flip flopping from claiming horizon is physical, to horizon isn't physical, to at best we've disproven the radius of the earth.

Its refraction.






Either that or those wierd wavy cranes sticking out of platforms are another miracle of american engineering.

"We all live in a yellow petridish, yellow petridish, yellow petridish"

Ok, I'll show myself out now.

Doesn't say anything about why the horizon is 6x further then the globe earth model dictates.

According to National Geographic, it's a physical place;

"The local horizon, also called the geometrical horizon, is the visible boundary between the Earth and sky." www.nationalgeographic.org/encyclopedia/horizon/

It's based off the given earth radius of 3,959 miles. Can google for various earth curve calculators, but for starters this one by Mick West seems popular; www.metabunk.org/curve/

Or about 1.23 miles times the square root of the eye height in feet. aty.sdsu.edu/explain/atmos_refr/horizon.html

So how does refraction make the geometric horizon appear 6x further away and behind oil rigs?

So bends obstacles (like the oil rigs) over the shape of the earth, not the shape of the earth (horizon) over the shape of the earth (horizon). Therefore issue still stands. How is it that the horizon is 6x further then where it should be geometrically?

Where does it come from that 'shape of earth'  equals 'horizon'? Horizon, by your own definition is a visible line that separates earth and sky. 'Shape of earth' or 'edge of earth', if you will, can only be a horizon when light travels only in straight lines, for example if earth had no atmosphere (vacuum) then that would be the case. But if you have atmosphere that have different refractive properties in different places light will not travel in straihgt lines, it will bend and, therefore, horizon will not be equal to 'shape of earth'. So to sum it up horizon can be beyond shape/edge of earth.

Explain please what is  'physical horizon' and how is it different, in your opinion, from 'geometric horizon', as you have defined it.