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Post by Black Magic Ritual on Mar 14, 2021 1:50:37 GMT
Meh. I get Vivienne vibes from her, my least favourite character from the Inquisition party, so it's leaning to a no for me. That and Mae looks like a drag queen, and I think wouldn't want to be associated with a negative stereotype that's probably in the minds of most players about transgender women.
My guess if Bioware does have a transgender character in the party it'll be someone who's FtoM (akin to Krem) or someone who looks androgynous enough to the player that when they first meet them it'll be hard to know which gender they are. If their gender does form a large part of their narrative and personal quests with the player (and I'm expecting that tbqhwy) it would be interesting to see them struggling with their gender identity, and that they (either through the story or by the player's own suggestion in the dialogue) come to realize that they might actually have been mistaken about the new gender they wanted to identify as.
It would help them a bit more than just being the "Token Transgender Character" - their insecurity over it would help make the player relate to them more, instead of the "you're a man now, and that's that" line Iron Bull drops when the subject came up with the Inquisitor and Krem. I think it would prove even more controversial since detranistion isn't a subject that's approached too much in fiction, let alone video games.
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Post by Nightscrawl on Mar 14, 2021 2:27:20 GMT
or by the player's own suggestion Fuck no. In NO WAY do I want the player to have sway over that. I didn't like the Cole choice, and even with DAO Leliana I try to be as neutral as possible.
From all your wording, I don't think you meant to be, but your suggestion is pretty offensive. Not only are RL trans people gas lighted about their identity, but your idea essentially throws transphobes a bone by allowing them to convince the person they aren't trans. This is akin to an opposite-sex person saying to a gay person, "You just haven't met the right person [of the opposite sex] yet," or "How do you know you're gay?"
How about we just let a trans character's transness be a feature of the character and their personal plot revolve around other stuff? In fact, it doesn't have to be anyone's business outside of a possible LI. Or if the person isn't an LI, something you only get to know if you become a close, trusted friend.
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Post by gervaise21 on Mar 14, 2021 8:24:31 GMT
How about we just let a trans character's transness be a feature of the character and their personal plot revolve around other stuff? I absolutely agree with this. It is something that can possibly come up in conversation but it does not become the overriding aspect of the character. In Last Flight there was a character in the ranks of the Wardens in Garahel's time where their gender identity was left ambiguous to the reader and was never an issue brought up by the characters in the story; just something they didn't question because that wasn't what made the character a valuable member of the team. It is part of the reason why I would prefer Maevaris to be the transgender representative because she had all her battles with the other Magisters over her gender identity in the past and now the focus of her activity is the Lucerni and combating corruption in the Magisterium, so that would be the essence of any sub-plots particularly related to her character.
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Post by Black Magic Ritual on Mar 14, 2021 10:37:49 GMT
or by the player's own suggestion Fuck no. In NO WAY do I want the player to have sway over that. I didn't like the Cole choice, and even with DAO Leliana I try to be as neutral as possible.
From all your wording, I don't think you meant to be, but your suggestion is pretty offensive. Not only are RL trans people gas lighted about their identity, but your idea essentially throws transphobes a bone by allowing them to convince the person they aren't trans. This is akin to an opposite-sex person saying to a gay person, "You just haven't met the right person [of the opposite sex] yet," or "How do you know you're gay?"
How about we just let a trans character's transness be a feature of the character and their personal plot revolve around other stuff? In fact, it doesn't have to be anyone's business outside of a possible LI. Or if the person isn't an LI, something you only get to know if you become a close, trusted friend.
But that's exactly my point - in a series where you can be bribed & leave your cousin at the mercy of a gang of monsters, (Shianni in The city elf origin) sell out a party member to their former abusive master (Fenris), let your own sister be put down by a vicious tyrant intent on purging her kind out of existence (Bethany), or let a Friend/Lover escape Justice after knowing they killed countless innocent people and will cause the deaths of thousands more in the long run (Anders), convincing/suggesting to a party character that their gender identity is wrong, either out of genuine concern for them or out of pure destructive malice, fits entirely within the world of Dragon Age. Simply just agreeing with them over and over again isn't going to make for a compelling character or a dynamic with the player, since we know from Kiem's dialogue with the player that transgender people are a very small minority in DA - especially in Tevinter where this game is being set. Maevaris herself is a popular character because she has succeeded and become a magister in spite of all that. And I don't get why a player shouldn't have "sway" over it. The games in this series revolve around the player and through their actions they drive the events and the course of the story. And just because it makes some people uncomfortable doesn't mean it shouldn't be explored. If we stood aloof and indecisive then we would simply get nowhere.
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Post by cuthbertbeckett on Mar 14, 2021 13:10:22 GMT
Fuck no. In NO WAY do I want the player to have sway over that.
Amen sorry Black Magic Ritual this is just a terrible idea and no Bioware shouldn´t even think about it.
Also Mae is more than a token transgender character. She is similiar to Dorian who is also much more than just gay. I could see Mae as a mix out of Dorian and Vivienne but her personal theme is more that she is a moderate reformer and oh boy slave owner. And no i don´t want that Mae lost this negative part of her character like Dorian before.
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Post by marikahaliwell on Mar 14, 2021 19:31:05 GMT
When I first red the comic , before I artived at the reveal part, I liked HER immediately. When I discovered that she was a Trans, I had a WOW moment and that was it. I continued to see her as a She . My mind never stopped to think what was her gender before.
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Post by Noxluxe on Apr 5, 2021 3:34:53 GMT
Fuck no. In NO WAY do I want the player to have sway over that. I didn't like the Cole choice, and even with DAO Leliana I try to be as neutral as possible. From all your wording, I don't think you meant to be, but your suggestion is pretty offensive. Not only are RL trans people gas lighted about their identity, but your idea essentially throws transphobes a bone by allowing them to convince the person they aren't trans. This is akin to an opposite-sex person saying to a gay person, "You just haven't met the right person [of the opposite sex] yet," or "How do you know you're gay?" How about we just let a trans character's transness be a feature of the character and their personal plot revolve around other stuff? In fact, it doesn't have to be anyone's business outside of a possible LI. Or if the person isn't an LI, something you only get to know if you become a close, trusted friend.
Eh. I don't see that a story about a specific trans character receiving help to accept that their choice of gender expression is just a symptom of something else and not a real reflection of who they are would be any more offensive than a story about a "cisgendered" person getting the support they need to finally accept that that isn't who they really are either. If one isn't fundamentally problematic then why should the other one be? The whole idea that someone's expressed identity and sexuality is a sacred truth that must be respected through and through always seemed silly to me. People simply don't always know themselves that well. If you think that there could be guys out there who are gay but refusing to accept it even to themselves due to societal conditioning or what have you, like Taylor Kitsch's awesome character in True Detective for example, then logically you must also accept that there are probably "gay" guys whose homosexuality is a construct too. There should be space for telling stories about these things in both directions if we're trying to be honest about anything, shouldn't there? And "Someone sufficiently stupid, insane or malicious could potentially see this and get the wrong idea and do something disrespectful." just isn't an argument not to tell an honest and interesting story about human nature to me. All that said though, I agree that that's not what Maevaris' story should be about unless this Dragon Age game has a wildly different tone and pacing than any of the others. Dorian dragging the Inquisitor on a trip to resolve his issues with daddy and the latter's attempts to correct his sexuality felt weird and inappropriate in the context even though it wasn't that badly written, and Leliana's development throughout the franchise has been a complete mess because of her erratic player-choice-dependent mental state. I'm all for the player having an impact on an NPC if it makes sense, such as the immature Alistair being encouraged to toughen up when faced with repeated trauma and disappointment by a cynical Warden, but I've yet to play a medieval fantasy game where it seemed suitable for the main character to be dragged into an important NPC's sexual or gender identity crisis as an 'impartial observer' rather than as a dear and trusted long-term friend, which just isn't a level of personal intimacy these stories tend to generate outside romances.
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Post by gervaise21 on Apr 22, 2022 20:32:39 GMT
" Dragon Age 4 Should Have Maevaris as a Companion" I agree and how is it possible that i only found out of this article right now? I agree there a strong reasons to think Maevaris could feature in DA4 but I'm not sure whether that would be as a companion, unless it was some way into the game, as she is already a very powerful Magister, so wouldn't really fit a low level party. However, she could be an adviser, contact or someone who is recruited as a companion later in the game. The reason they might not use her is that she was really David Gaider's character and so prefer to have a new character with their own backstory rather than one that is already known. Also, I'm not sure what age she is but it is possible they might consider her too old to be a companion. I know this sounds ageist, and I am no spring chicken myself, but fans seemed to think they were pushing it a bit with some of the companions in DAI, even though they didn't look their age, and, apart from Loghain and Wynne, I don't think they have had any other companion who was over 40 (I don't count Solas ![:lol:](//storage.proboards.com/6576594/images/qUctXNjCPgwPaLsZeKry.png) ). By 9:52 I think Maevaris definitely would be since she is older than Dorian and he would be 40 in 9:51. Still, Wynne, was a companion and it would be nice to see a glamorous older woman to acknowledge that not every older woman is a granny figure. Maevaris seems to favour electricity as well, so could have an interesting skill tree. I definitely think that Maevaris could be fun to have around whatever her role.
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Post by cuthbertbeckett on Apr 23, 2022 15:18:51 GMT
I agree there a strong reasons to think Maevaris could feature in DA4 but I'm not sure whether that would be as a companion, unless it was some way into the game, as she is already a very powerful Magister, so wouldn't really fit a low level party. She could lose her power and influence after some time. Don´t forget that her hometown Ventus (the former Qarinus) has fallen. Cole was also his character. Also he gave up Anders and he was willing to give up Cassandra. Also what about Dorian? It would be absolute shocking if they isn´t a major character. So i don´t see the problem here. Mae is an older Mage like Wynne before and also no romance. Again i don´t see your problem.
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Post by gervaise21 on Apr 23, 2022 17:52:05 GMT
She could lose her power and influence after some time. Don´t forget that her hometown Ventus (the former Qarinus) has fallen. That was Dorian's home seat too but you will recall that at the Winter Palace Ball he was announced with a variety of titles, including his father being a Lord of Asariel, on the western seaboard, so it is entirely possible that Maevaris had a number of different holdings too. Plus Maevaris has her dwarven connection, which not only means she has an income that is independent from her above ground holdings but has been the real source of her influence both inside and outside the Magisterium. I think she is more likely to be at risk of assassination, as she was in that War Table mission, than being ousted from power by less violent means. Besides, even if she did fall from grace, she is still a mage of long standing and having lived as a Magister in Tevinter for some considerable time, she would not have survived this long without developing a considerable level of skill, much more than say Wynne had down in the southern Circle. In the story Luck in the Gardens, Dorian attributes much of the electrical magic used against the Cekorax to Maevaris, which would make sense as he was a Necromancer who favoured fire magic. Cole was also his character. Also he gave up Anders and he was willing to give up Cassandra. Also what about Dorian? It would be absolute shocking if they isn´t a major character. So i don´t see the problem here. He was still able to keep an eye on things whilst he was lead writer. I was more meaning how the writers might now feel about taking on one of his characters, bearing in mind the flack they will get if they don't do Maevaris justice, in other words portray her as people imagine her to be. This would be more difficult than taking on Dorian and I very much doubt he is going to be a companion next game. Having her make an appearance would not be as risky as actually have her in a full companion role. Mae is an older Mage like Wynne before and also no romance. Again i don´t see your problem. I don't have a problem but they might want to go with a companion you can romance. Now that wouldn't entirely rule out Mae but personally I would rather they leave her devoted to her former husband. Of course, a lot depends on exactly how many companions they are going to run with next game. Nine plus three advisers was rather a lot last game and, of course, Cullen and Solas only made the final cut as romances late in the day, due to having extended development time. Who knows what they are going to do this time round with the number of reboots that have occurred. As I've said, I have no objection to Maevaris as a companion but I can see arguments against her that might be used by the team. Now it has been mentioned by others that Hollix, the main character in Luck in the Gardens, gave off gender fluid vibes, so it is possible they may go with them or someone else entirely.
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Post by wright1978 on Apr 23, 2022 18:13:19 GMT
I'm assuming they will have a trans companion. Maevaris being devoted to her husband would be a definite plus(as i'm hoping said companion won't be romanceable) just from the purely selfish point of view of not taking a romance slot from potential biological human/elf women companions.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Apr 23, 2022 18:50:09 GMT
I'm assuming they will have a trans companion. Maevaris being devoted to her husband would be a definite plus(as i'm hoping said companion won't be romanceable) just from the purely selfish point of view of not taking a romance slot from potential biological human/elf women companions. I imagine if she's a romance, she'll be one of the extra ones outside the 2/2/2. So the transphobes don't have to worry about her taking up a slot.
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Post by cuthbertbeckett on Apr 25, 2022 17:38:58 GMT
That was Dorian's home seat too but you will recall that at the Winter Palace Ball he was announced with a variety of titles, including his father being a Lord of Asariel, on the western seaboard, so it is entirely possible that Maevaris had a number of different holdings too. Possible but there are many reasons why Mae could join the DA 4 Hero and party. Maybe some Debt or she want to hide for some time. The most part is that Mae isn´t a quantum character. Speaking of Dorian both he and Mae would be quite similiar as characters. So i doubt that both will feature in DA 4 in similiar role. Why? Mae is a comic character which isn´t that fleshed out like book or game characters. I don´t see the problem here. Also if Patrick Weekes will write Mae he still can contact David Gaider for some feedback. Dorian is a romance option so of course he isn´t returning as a companion. Not every companion has to be a romance. The biggest argument for Mae (beside that she isn´t a quantum character) is that she exists for almost 10 years in the series. Make no mistakes some (transphobes) players will hate the idea of a transgender companion because this "new woke shit doesn´t belong in a Dragon Age game) but Mae isn´t a new character. She is long established as a character even before DAI. So there is that. By the way i am well aware that those people wouldn´t care and she hate Mae.
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Post by cuthbertbeckett on Apr 25, 2022 17:44:02 GMT
I'm assuming they will have a trans companion. Maevaris being devoted to her husband would be a definite plus(as i'm hoping said companion won't be romanceable) just from the purely selfish point of view of not taking a romance slot from potential biological human/elf women companions. Especially after the positive feedback of Krem in DAI and the bad feedback in form of Hainly Abrams in MEA it seems very likely that DA 4 will have a transgender companion. Saying this i doubt that we will have a transgender companion regardless who it is as a romance option. I don´t think that we are at this point. Maybe DA 5 after the player reaction of the DA 4 transgender companion.
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Post by cuthbertbeckett on Jun 6, 2024 22:23:37 GMT
I still think that Lace Harding and yes Calpernia having a good chance to be Veilguard companions but Maevaris i don´t know any more. We can´t all the characters we want to see in a 7 companion roster so i change my mind and say that she won´t a companion but somewhat of major NPC. Maybe i am completly wrong that she is a companion and will age like milk in a few days. ![:lol:](//storage.proboards.com/6576594/images/qUctXNjCPgwPaLsZeKry.png)
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Post by SofaJockey on Jun 9, 2024 22:37:04 GMT
Surprised Maevaris wasn't a companion but I'll be even more surprised if she isn't in the game. ![:huh:](//storage.proboards.com/6576594/images/MpaFjtwKhHtjDCSZozd0.png)
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Post by cuthbertbeckett on Jun 9, 2024 22:42:53 GMT
Surprised Maevaris wasn't a companion but I'll be even more surprised if she isn't in the game. ![:huh:](//storage.proboards.com/6576594/images/MpaFjtwKhHtjDCSZozd0.png) I haven´t pay much attention into it but i think someone user has speculated that she had been cut as companion.
But yeah i also thought that Maevaris would been a safe bet especially after the misfire which was Hainly Abrams at first.
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Post by fylimar on Jun 10, 2024 13:44:23 GMT
I'm pretty sure,she is in the game though. Maybe she'll be an advisor, if we have those again.
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Post by wright1978 on Jun 10, 2024 18:20:30 GMT
Surprised Maevaris wasn't a companion but I'll be even more surprised if she isn't in the game. ![:huh:](//storage.proboards.com/6576594/images/MpaFjtwKhHtjDCSZozd0.png) I haven´t pay much attention into it but i think someone user has speculated that she had been cut as companion.
But yeah i also thought that Maevaris would been a safe bet especially after the misfire which was Hainly Abrams at first.
Am I completely misreading the qunari character’s status?
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Post by cuthbertbeckett on Jun 10, 2024 18:22:55 GMT
Am I completely misreading the qunari character’s status? I don´t know what you mean with this and what this has do with Maevaris. ![:huh:](//storage.proboards.com/6576594/images/MpaFjtwKhHtjDCSZozd0.png)
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Post by gervaise21 on Jun 10, 2024 18:45:07 GMT
Surprised Maevaris wasn't a companion but I'll be even more surprised if she isn't in the game. I haven´t pay much attention into it but i think someone user has speculated that she had been cut as companion I had suggested before that may be she wouldn't be a companion now David Gaider was no longer with them, as she was very much his creation and if there would be one thing worse than not having Maevaris it would be having her and doing her badly. Also, her back story and life experience has pretty much been covered in Wot2 so there wouldn't be much new to be discovered there and it did occur to me after reading the comic series that featured her that she was still devoted to her dead husband, according to what we saw in the Fade, so it would have been a pity to ruin that in order to make her a romance option. That said was may still encounter her in Minrathous, possibly as a quest giver or even as a temporary companion.
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Post by SofaJockey on Aug 30, 2024 19:19:20 GMT
Heads up to OP gangrelbeckett and the thread. I've changed the thread title temporarily from : The Maevaris Tilani Discussion Thread (It will revert in time) Given the news that: Maevaris is in the game in an unspecified capacity. (Dev Q&A) There needs to be a place to discuss the character more thoroughly. But it can't spoil the general audience through its title on the board. Thank you.
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Post by cuthbertbeckett on Aug 30, 2024 19:31:29 GMT
Heads up to OP gangrelbeckett and the thread. I've changed the thread title temporarily from : The Maevaris Tilani Discussion Thread (It will revert in time) Given the news that: Maevaris is in the game in an unspecified capacity. (Dev Q&A) There needs to be a place to discuss the character more thoroughly. But it can't spoil the general audience through its title on the board. Thank you. This really worth of a spoiler warning? Most people know it from Trespasser tease (shocking i know) and casual & new players won´t even care. Also you may diagree but is really smart that the most known transgender character after Krem perhaps gets this spoiler treatment? Maybe this could not look good for some people. ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/6576594/images/KGsHESiZGZU0pPuHuhQr.png)
So yeah i am not a fan of this decision because we do nothing about her besides been in Veilguard. Again we know this almost 9 years ago.
Edit: (You have been warned) also suggest that this person would been a major character like Morrigan, Leliana, Dorian or even someone like Isabela. But Mae again i am the OP so i am fond of Mae but i would be lying if i would say that she has been that important in the series.
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Post by SofaJockey on Aug 30, 2024 21:45:22 GMT
Fair enough. Removed that. If this is all over gaming news, then it's easy to put the name back. I sense Maevaris is more than a cameo, but could easily be of the level of a side character like Fiona or a significant quest giver. Anything that has been presented in a trailer is fair game for open discussion. Something announced in a Dev Q&A with a spoiler warning should be treated with a little caution i think.
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