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Post by jennica on Jun 19, 2024 11:51:20 GMT
The rest of that article series was waaaay too full of spoilers. I stopped after the first major spoiler that I kind of wish I hadn't seen. I still find it very weird that they didn't put any warnings about spoilers.
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Post by The Loyal Nub on Jun 19, 2024 11:53:13 GMT
I just went to Steam looking for something and ended up reading a lot of "anti-woke" rubbish. Now I'm once again sad, mad and frustrated that people are like this. Some people apparently won't buy the game because one of the directors is a transwoman. Steam discussion pages are a cesspool, partly because a lot of other places won't put up with this bullshit and have more robust blocking/banning tools and these people have to congregate somewhere. (Same reason YouTube comment sections are often equally bad, although that depends a lot on the individual channel.)
Anyway, complaining that Dragon Age has 'gone woke' is especially funny. I swear that some people saw that Morrigan wasn't wearing a shirt back in DAO and didn't pay attention to a single other thing about the game or who made it. You'd think that people who want to boycott a game because a transwoman worked on it would also have some kind of objection to a gay man being the first lead writer and a pan enby person being the current one.
Once the game is closer to release I assume BioWare will appoint a moderator to the Steam discussions to tidy up the trolls and ban accounts. *one thing we will all want to do if the game is good and we know it to be good is review it because alt-righties will likely try to review bomb it.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Jun 19, 2024 11:57:13 GMT
Yea hI mus tadmi tthis Trespasser them ewas reall ycool. I haven't reached Trespasser ye twi thm yactiv e quizzy bu tI know I'm nearing the latter en dwit hm ycurren tquizzy s oprobabl ywon' tb elon gonce I pic kth egam eup again but then I'm plannin gon a tleas t1 full run o fthe series befoe rVeilguard comes out possibly moe rbu ti treally depensd on th etime.
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Post by Element Zero on Jun 19, 2024 12:15:33 GMT
This is a problem for me. I don't want combat to be a "minor chore". It's 50% of what you'll be doing during the game. It should have some enjoyment, preferably lots of enjoyment. I mean...why would one play DA games at all in this case? Their combat has always been crappy. Until you reach an OP build that essentially steamrolls everything and trivializes it all anyway.
Btw, having a "no death mode" doesn't exclude the possibility of combat being fun. Options are always good to have. And some people can have trouble winning encounters even at easiest difficulty.
I've played them from the beginning because the story and world building are incredible. I didn't mind DAO combat, as it was basically KotOR. DA2 and DAI are excruciatingly bad, in my opinion. As much as I'd love to refresh my memory with the fine details of DAI, I don't think I can tolerate another trip through it. I believe I last played it in 2016 after Trespasser. I'm hopeful that this new gameplay will actually be fun. Ultimately, if games aren't fun to play, what's the point? At the very least, DA:V doesn't look like it will feature torturously bad gameplay as the cost of admission.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Jun 19, 2024 12:17:20 GMT
I just went to Steam looking for something and ended up reading a lot of "anti-woke" rubbish. Now I'm once again sad, mad and frustrated that people are like this. Some people apparently won't buy the game because one of the directors is a transwoman. You can onl yignoe rit as ther's nothin gan yof us can d oothe rthan to suppor tthe games w elove a smuch as we can. I know I'm gettin gVeilguard regardles so fwha tothers asy . The gam eprett ymuc hsold itself t ome th eda yI saw the gamepla ytrailer as whilst I did have concerns with combat what with it being fast I did remember tha tBioware's games fo rthe most part are pretty accessible even before I heard the news that the game has a 'you can't die' mode. It's on eo fth emain reasons wh yI thin kI play them as muc has I do becaus ethere are so man ydifferen tways you ca nplay them an dever yclas skind o ffeels equall yaccessible a tleas ton the easiest difficulties.
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Post by azarhal on Jun 19, 2024 12:22:01 GMT
The rest of that article series was waaaay too full of spoilers. I stopped after the first major spoiler that I kind of wish I hadn't seen. I still find it very weird that they didn't put any warnings about spoilers. Amusingly, it's only big spoilers in here. Most people reading that article won't know who/what those spoilers references so it's all just story setup for them because it only covers the first 2-4 hours of the game.
Also, Gamble hinted on twitter yesterday that these reveals are nothing to what comes later in the game.
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Post by Element Zero on Jun 19, 2024 12:27:00 GMT
DAV has a mode where you never die, so combat can be just a minor chore. This is a problem for me. I don't want combat to be a "minor chore". It's 50% of what you'll be doing during the game. It should have some enjoyment, preferably lots of enjoyment. "Action" type combat of this sort isn't enjoyable for me, whether it's easy or not. It's still a chore to get through. Now the RTwP zoomed out style of DAO may be a chore with a controller, I don't know I'm a kb/m guy. But it's still disappointing to me that they've gone this direction. RTwP could've been lots of fun. BioWare just never did it very well. Even they knew it, trying something new with every game. I generally prefer action-based combat, but I also love D&D. (BG3 combat is a blast for a D&D fan, even putting aside its other amazing qualities.) A RTwP game done right would've been fine. As it is, I'm so relieved that they've moved away from it. I don't know that I would've even played DA:V, otherwise. I'd likely have just gotten the story here and via wikis.
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Post by saandrig on Jun 19, 2024 12:28:49 GMT
I still find it very weird that they didn't put any warnings about spoilers. Amusingly, it's only big spoilers in here. Most people reading that article won't know who/what those spoilers references so it's all just story setup for them because it only covers the first 2-4 hours of the game.
Also, Gamble hinted on twitter yesterday that these reveals are nothing to what comes later in the game. Andraste: Miss me, bitches?
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Jun 19, 2024 12:34:56 GMT
Steam is a cesspool. The most toxic gamers congregate there, which of course turns into a vicious cycle of turning away anyone who doesn't wanna put up with their crap. Though in fairness, I've already seen at least one person in this forum complaining that all the female companions are ugly and Bioware hates straight men. It's giving me flashbacks to Inquisition's pre-release. don't know what they are looking at again. Cass and Leiliana and Josie was gorgeous in Inquisition and now we got Neve, Harding, and Bellara even looks cute. Yea hI alway sfoun dLeliana cute an das you say Harding look scute as well. Th egirl at the start that was in trouble she looked kind of cute too and I'v emade quiet a few cute Inquisitors and Ryders in the CC's ew've had in Frostbiet I've even made quie ta few cuteShepards as well in the LE CC. So I have n omisgivings tha tI'll find a wa yt omake a cute looking Rook especially as I've alerady had a bit of a head start using the strand hair tech in CC's alread y thank sto playing a lot of th eFifa/FC games given they've been using it fo rthe last 2 or 3 years there. I've got a couple of cute looking ladies on th ego there. The stran dhai rthey'v ecreated definitel yhas helped mak ethe difference and I thin kit's on eof th ereason swhy I've played a lo to fFifa the las tcoupl eof years because it really looks nice.
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Post by Faye on Jun 19, 2024 12:38:14 GMT
After looking at that glorious skill tree I am once again going to be basic and be an elven mage. I hate myself STOP MAKING MAGES SO COOL. Also, all the purple...they really are putting in that particular feel eh??
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Post by saandrig on Jun 19, 2024 12:48:35 GMT
Also, all the purple...they really are putting in that particular feel eh?? It's the color that doesn't really exist after all. Games of the mind. All of it!!!
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Jun 19, 2024 12:55:12 GMT
I just went to Steam looking for something and ended up reading a lot of "anti-woke" rubbish. Now I'm once again sad, mad and frustrated that people are like this. Some people apparently won't buy the game because one of the directors is a transwoman. Not all pages in steam are like this. I somethimes read their some comments. 2 persons have discuss the combat as much as we have. really cool to read. Ignor the rest bullshit their. And the ones don't buy it because of corinne, they wouldn't buy it anyway. That is only an excuse.
There are quie ta fwe hough I haven' tvisited Veilguards page and it's likely I won' t as I'll likely be buying it through th eEA app given that's where I have the othe r3 games. But Forbidden Wests Steam pages weer quiet toxic attimes wit hpeopl emoanin gan dsayin gstuff lik ew ewan tBloodborne not this kind of rubbish. Personally I couldn' tcae rless for Bloodborne as I'm not a soulsborn eplayer but I was visiting a sI did want more Horizon. As I knew having played Zreo Dawn I wanted Forbidden West and I'm glad we got it.I don' tknow exactl ywhen I'll play the Horizon games again a tthi spoint as I was planning on mayb edoin gon eafter I played the ME sreies again but I madse tha tcall befoe rVeilguard was announced s onow I don't know. But I'm thinkin g I ma ypla yagain when I eventually pla ythe Lego game as I'm kind of tempted by that. But yea hdon' tpa yattention t oStea mForums asmost of the peopl ethere are what Tali would call idiots
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Jun 19, 2024 13:05:57 GMT
After looking at that glorious skill tree I am once again going to be basic and be an elven mage. I hate myself STOP MAKING MAGES SO COOL. Also, all the purple...they really are putting in that particular feel eh?? Thry'v ealways been cool that's why Thedas has locked them up al l these years they'v ejus tbeen too cool to handle. .
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Post by phoray on Jun 19, 2024 14:07:49 GMT
Whoa whoa whoa I was listening to a random DA video this morning and they were referencing some massive 12 page purple article from Game Informer Magazine "Returning to Magic" by Wesley LeBlanc. And they said
Solas' voice will be in Rook's head? And Rook's blood got in the failed ritual and bound them to the Fade? And what the fuck? SAM was the worst part of Andromeda for me and they're going to put SOLAS in our head?
Will it at least be a dialogue wheel where I can choose to ignore him every time? Solas should not be forced to be my friend and comrade nonconsensually in Rook's head.
The Lighthouse is in the Fade, it's Solas' home (ex home?), and change as the game progresses as the Fade always reflects true reality.
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Post by LukeBarrett on Jun 19, 2024 14:14:15 GMT
Holy shit. The skill tree is a marvel to look at.
A real marvel is the passive skill tree from a free game called Path of Exile. Makes the Veilguard tree look like a baby.
Ask me about this specifically when the game launches 😉
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Jun 19, 2024 14:41:06 GMT
A real marvel is the passive skill tree from a free game called Path of Exile. Makes the Veilguard tree look like a baby.
Ask me about this specifically when the game launches 😉 So when do w ege tto see the CC?
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Post by QuizzyBunny on Jun 19, 2024 14:52:31 GMT
I wonder if the Devs ever toyed with the idea of putting randomized surprises under some of these skills - like "Oh, you thought you unlocked 10% more crit damage against armor but SURPRISE, WE ARE ALSO GIVING YOU A 5% CHANCE OF RANDOMLY ONE-SHOTTING ANY ENEMY!". xD
Would for sure add some spice to leveling up lol.
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Post by OhDaniGirl on Jun 19, 2024 14:58:30 GMT
Whoa whoa whoa I was listening to a random DA video this morning and they were referencing some massive 12 page purple article from Game Informer Magazine "Returning to Magic" by Wesley LeBlanc. And they said
Solas' voice will be in Rook's head? And Rook's blood got in the failed ritual and bound them to the Fade? And what the fuck? SAM was the worst part of Andromeda for me and they're going to put SOLAS in our head?
Will it at least be a dialogue wheel where I can choose to ignore him every time? Solas should not be forced to be my friend and comrade nonconsensually in Rook's head.
The Lighthouse is in the Fade, it's Solas' home (ex home?), and change as the game progresses as the Fade always reflects true reality.
There's a thread to discuss the article here: bsn.boards.net/thread/20248/game-informer-article-contains-spoilers
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Post by smilesja on Jun 19, 2024 15:50:13 GMT
I just went to Steam looking for something and ended up reading a lot of "anti-woke" rubbish. Now I'm once again sad, mad and frustrated that people are like this. Some people apparently won't buy the game because one of the directors is a transwoman. If they think Dragon Age is "woke" wait until they find out about BG3.
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Post by melbella on Jun 19, 2024 16:05:36 GMT
ll three are comprised of 168 total nodes
I wonder if NG+ will be a thing? With a skill tree this big and only able to unlock half of it or so in a single game it seems like a waste. Also, 28 active abilities but we can only use 3 at a time? Whyyyy????
8 slots wasn't enough in DAI and we only had maybe 12-14 active abilities, including the Mark. This just seems like a bad joke. I can only cringe in despair at the finger gymnastics that will be required on kb/m to actually do all these things.
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Post by fairdragon on Jun 19, 2024 16:34:14 GMT
What i really love. We get many new ME fans to the fandome. like her:
Her reaction to the gameplay trailer.
I am very happy, people feel comfortable to jump in.
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What i really love. We get many new ME fans to the fandome. like her: Her reaction to the gameplay trailer. I am very happy, people feel comfortable to jump in. I forget there are some people who are just in one camp or the other. I prefer DA but I love me some ME when it's that series' turn.
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Post by fairdragon on Jun 19, 2024 16:39:56 GMT
A real marvel is the passive skill tree from a free game called Path of Exile. Makes the Veilguard tree look like a baby.
Ask me about this specifically when the game launches 😉 I love this skill tree very much. It remindet me so much of my time playing Final fantasy X and i loved it. So thank you to the person that have the idea and to everyone doing this masterpiece of skill tree.
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Post by azarhal on Jun 19, 2024 16:41:37 GMT
ll three are comprised of 168 total nodes
I wonder if NG+ will be a thing? With a skill tree this big and only able to unlock half of it or so in a single game it seems like a waste. Also, 28 active abilities but we can only use 3 at a time? Whyyyy????
8 slots wasn't enough in DAI and we only had maybe 12-14 active abilities, including the Mark. This just seems like a bad joke. I can only cringe in despair at the finger gymnastics that will be required on kb/m to actually do all these things.
The tree isn't designed to be all unlocked, they kept the essence of the previous games where you focus on a specific build and I'm pretty sure you can only invest in one specialization at a time anyway.
And it should have about the same amount of buttons as MEA, which is less than DAI.
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Post by azarhal on Jun 19, 2024 17:15:52 GMT
I think the poster who counted the nodes on Resetera made a mistake counting active abilities and traits (and maybe other things, but that wouldn't be their fault). The overview of the entire skill tree is wrong when it comes to icons based on the zoomed in Wall of Fire pic. Traits are barely bigger diamonds than actives instead of being hexagon. So in reality there is 13 actives and 15 traits. Also, there aren't large, medium and small circles like the GI article claims. There is two size of circles, but the larger one have two variants (one with longer spikes that are always dead end).
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