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Post by sjsharp2010 on Jul 8, 2024 19:26:27 GMT
Apparently, there is no swimming in DAV. I'm fine with that, closer to real life for me. When I enter water I immediately sink to the bottom like a 180 pound granite boulder. Yea hI go tenoug hswimmin gdon eplayin Forbidden Wes tI thin kI'v ereached my quota on that
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Post by biggydx on Jul 8, 2024 19:31:16 GMT
Really stretching out those articles.
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Post by colfoley on Jul 8, 2024 19:39:43 GMT
Apparently, there is no swimming in DAV. I'm fine with that, closer to real life for me. When I enter water I immediately sink to the bottom like a 180 pound granite boulder. the irony of having 'fish' in your username.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Jul 8, 2024 20:16:11 GMT
Here's a ninteresting vid I jus tsaw on Veilguard tha tcam eup on m yfeed
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Post by Gwydden on Jul 8, 2024 20:20:16 GMT
Really stretching out those articles. I think the only new information is that DA:O/DA2's approval meter is back and has some mechanical impact.
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Post by colfoley on Jul 8, 2024 20:31:40 GMT
Here's a ninteresting vid I jus tsaw on Veilguard tha tcam eup on m yfeed I saw that. Interesting indeed and think she raised a few good points. Of course the direct sequel comment in regards to both ME and DA is kind of up in the air. I still would rather play Ryder.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Jul 8, 2024 21:00:52 GMT
Here's a ninteresting vid I jus tsaw on Veilguard tha tcam eup on m yfeed I saw that. Interesting indeed and think she raised a few good points. Of course the direct sequel comment in regards to both ME and DA is kind of up in the air. I still would rather play Ryder. Yeah I d otoo personaly I'm jus tfocused on Veilguard I'm not worrying about ME becaus eif Veilguard fails it's likel ythere won' tbe another ME. I don' t think Veilguard will fail though as I thin kit's mostl ybeen positiv eothe rthan the stupid Godmod edebate a sI found another youtuber earlier posting an dchimin gin on tha tearlier bu tdecided t oignoe rit because I think the optoins they'v egiven us aer good
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Post by Sartoz on Jul 8, 2024 22:08:20 GMT
I saw that. Interesting indeed and think she raised a few good points. Of course the direct sequel comment in regards to both ME and DA is kind of up in the air. I still would rather play Ryder. Yeah I d otoo personaly I'm jus tfocused on Veilguard I'm not worrying about ME becaus eif Veilguard fails it's likel ythere won' tbe another ME. I don' t think Veilguard will fail though as I thin kit's mostl ybeen positiv eothe rthan the stupid Godmod edebate a sI found another youtuber earlier posting an dchimin gin on tha tearlier bu tdecided t oignoe rit because I think the optoins they'v egiven us aer good
BG3's success punches so many holes in her analysis.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Jul 8, 2024 22:27:03 GMT
Yeah I d otoo personaly I'm jus tfocused on Veilguard I'm not worrying about ME becaus eif Veilguard fails it's likel ythere won' tbe another ME. I don' t think Veilguard will fail though as I thin kit's mostl ybeen positiv eothe rthan the stupid Godmod edebate a sI found another youtuber earlier posting an dchimin gin on tha tearlier bu tdecided t oignoe rit because I think the optoins they'v egiven us aer good
BG3's success punches so many holes in her analysis.
I thin kin the case of wha tsh ewas saying was tha tBG 3ws aan exception rathe rtha nthe rule here .Which tbh it is as all the othe rgames on tha tlist ae raction games .Don't ge tm ewron gI like BG3 but it is a differen ttype of game
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Post by Sartoz on Jul 8, 2024 22:43:52 GMT
BG3's success punches so many holes in her analysis.
I thin kin the case of wha tsh ewas saying was tha tBG 3ws aan exception rathe rtha nthe rule here .Which tbh it is as all the othe rgames on tha tlist ae raction games .Don't ge tm ewron gI like BG3 but it is a differen ttype of game
LOL... if more BG3 like games are developed, they'd become the rule!
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Post by biggydx on Jul 8, 2024 22:55:52 GMT
I thin kin the case of wha tsh ewas saying was tha tBG 3ws aan exception rathe rtha nthe rule here .Which tbh it is as all the othe rgames on tha tlist ae raction games .Don't ge tm ewron gI like BG3 but it is a differen ttype of game
LOL... if more BG3 like games are developed, they'd become the rule!
And a lot of sequels for RPG's would take an entire console generation to develop. Honestly, it's fine if BG3 is one of those "One-of-a-kind" games. It lets you appreciate them more.
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Post by luketrevelyan on Jul 8, 2024 23:09:26 GMT
Here's a ninteresting vid I jus tsaw on Veilguard tha tcam eup on m yfeed I don't think the analysis on the combat made that much sense as she categorizes DAI as action when it was definitely an action/tactical hybrid. They even brought back the tac cam (not that it was great). In fact the game was criticized for trying to be both. They didn't really decide on a direction until DAV.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Jul 8, 2024 23:50:31 GMT
I thin kin the case of wha tsh ewas saying was tha tBG 3ws aan exception rathe rtha nthe rule here .Which tbh it is as all the othe rgames on tha tlist ae raction games .Don't ge tm ewron gI like BG3 but it is a differen ttype of game
LOL... if more BG3 like games are developed, they'd become the rule!
Mayb ebu tther's no tman ystudio's doing tha tkind o fgame
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Jul 8, 2024 23:51:51 GMT
LOL... if more BG3 like games are developed, they'd become the rule!
And a lot of sequels for RPG's would take an entire console generation to develop. Honestly, it's fine if BG3 is one of those "One-of-a-kind" games. It lets you appreciate them more. Yea hit is fine really BG3 is good but it's als ogood to have variety
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Post by colfoley on Jul 9, 2024 0:03:06 GMT
Yeah I d otoo personaly I'm jus tfocused on Veilguard I'm not worrying about ME becaus eif Veilguard fails it's likel ythere won' tbe another ME. I don' t think Veilguard will fail though as I thin kit's mostl ybeen positiv eothe rthan the stupid Godmod edebate a sI found another youtuber earlier posting an dchimin gin on tha tearlier bu tdecided t oignoe rit because I think the optoins they'v egiven us aer good
BG3's success punches so many holes in her analysis.
Not really. Sure if we see more TTRPGs with this kind of thing then maybe. But the big and telling thing from the list to is how much story and character also tends to matter to each one of those games. Each one of the games that I saw on the list also were great examples of game stories in addition to having engaging action gameplay. Like BG III. While I have not made the jump yet, since I am weary of its D&D like mechanics, I also know enough about the game to know that how the game handles companions is probably the closest to BioWare in a non BioWare game and the story so far seems...servicable. Here's a ninteresting vid I jus tsaw on Veilguard tha tcam eup on m yfeed I don't think the analysis on the combat made that much sense as she categorizes DAI as action when it was definitely an action/tactical hybrid. They even brought back the tac cam (not that it was great). In fact the game was criticized for trying to be both. They didn't really decide on a direction until DAV. I think you are underestimating just how tactical ARPGs can be and just how much BioWare has brought into it. This whole thing can get a little weary though to and sometimes game genres and definitions do tend to be all over the place...because even Origins had most of the mechanics of a modern ARPG as well even though its just a 'CRPG' 'RPG' or 'TRPG' and the mechanics associated with ARPGs, real time combat. But each one of the ME games, ARPGs have had things like tactical pausing and the ability to dictate power usages and to come up with tactics in order to defeat the enemy. In Dragon Age every single DA game has leaned into the ARPG formula since DA 2. Inquisition may have included a bit more tactical gameplay but it still worked pretty much like DA 2 and ME worked. Now Veilguard is continuing on with the tradition of being tactical but also being live as much as it can get into and continuing to add things that modern audiences expect, active blocking and dodging, though keep in mind active dodging and blocking has been a thing since at least Inquisition and I even believe Origins and 2 had some examples of it. Edit: Heck if we extend our search beyond DA and ME then you also have the FF VII reboot project, the Witcher 3, Assassins Creed Odyssey, all being considered real time 'Action' games despite also including abilities to manipulate time and be more tactical. Now God of War didn't and nor did AC Vahalla so there are examples that have completley gotten rid of such things, but we also know that Veilguard is not getting in that direction.
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Dragon Age @dragonageIn the bustling ports of Docktown, nestled within Minrathous, you'll find two factions fighting for control: The Venatori, a cult of blood mages, and the Shadow Dragons, a resistance group that fights against the city's corrupt rulers. #DragonAge #Veilguard
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Dragon Age @dragonageIn the bustling ports of Docktown, nestled within Minrathous, you'll find two factions fighting for control: The Venatori, a cult of blood mages, and the Shadow Dragons, a resistance group that fights against the city's corrupt rulers. #DragonAge #Veilguard Venatori vs Shadow Dragons? Where is the Tevinter authority?
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Post by catcher on Jul 9, 2024 1:22:34 GMT
I thin kin the case of wha tsh ewas saying was tha tBG 3ws aan exception rathe rtha nthe rule here .Which tbh it is as all the othe rgames on tha tlist ae raction games .Don't ge tm ewron gI like BG3 but it is a differen ttype of game
LOL... if more BG3 like games are developed, they'd become the rule!
You mean if several different companies could also have a 5E D&D license and a multi-year open beta? Yeah, didn't think that's what you meant but that is what it means. Before Baldur's Gate, Bioware had one game of middling quality to their name and one OK sequel of someone else's game. Neither one was anything like an RPG. The D&D license with its built-in fanbase that tracked closely with the users of PC games at the time AND some excellent execution allowed them to grow and flourish. I will not take one thing from Larian, but anyone who thinks they sold the number of games they did primarily because of game mechanics is deluding themselves. 5E is tremendously popular across a wider range of audiences than any previous version of D&D ever was. BG3 also benefited from additional marketing support from WotC/Hasbro in the form of modules, crossover events, etc. The long Early Access period acted like an extended marketing campaign a company like Larian could never have afforded on its own. Doesn't mean that some kind of turn-based or RTWP couldn't do it, but BG3 is not the proof for that. Sorry.
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Dragon Age @dragonageIn the bustling ports of Docktown, nestled within Minrathous, you'll find two factions fighting for control: The Venatori, a cult of blood mages, and the Shadow Dragons, a resistance group that fights against the city's corrupt rulers. #DragonAge #Veilguard Venatori vs Shadow Dragons? Where is the Tevinter authority? Probably waiting to see who comes out on top, then wipe out whoever's left.
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Post by colfoley on Jul 9, 2024 1:40:09 GMT
Venatori vs Shadow Dragons? Where is the Tevinter authority? Probably waiting to see who comes out on top, then wipe out whoever's left. or the Venatori ARE the Tevinter authorities.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Jul 9, 2024 2:19:27 GMT
Probably waiting to see who comes out on top, then wipe out whoever's left. or the Venatori ARE the Tevinter authorities. The ycould ewll be given the power the ygot from Corypheus befoe rwe drove them out of Southern Thedas and killed him.
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Post by Hrungr on Jul 9, 2024 2:24:44 GMT
Probably waiting to see who comes out on top, then wipe out whoever's left. or the Venatori ARE the Tevinter authorities. Could be...
Though from DA's post, they sound more like a gang trying to control the docks. I don't doubt they have high-placed backers though.
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Post by Hrungr on Jul 9, 2024 2:25:43 GMT
From GI: "Every time you rank up a companion's Relationship Level, you unlock a skill point to spend specifically on that companion." Curious to see how this works, and what disparity there might be between your favourites & those sent their rooms for half the game.
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Post by biggydx on Jul 9, 2024 2:31:49 GMT
From GI: "Every time you rank up a companion's Relationship Level, you unlock a skill point to spend specifically on that companion." Curious to see how this works, and what disparity there might be between your favourites & those sent their rooms for half the game. I feel like they need to show us what our companion skill tree looks like. That, and they should probably just tell us if we are basically going to be playing with neutered companions if we don't play nice with them.
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