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Post by Sartoz on Jul 9, 2024 12:49:56 GMT
Wondering which games out there or shortly out there in 2024 that are considered game of the year nominees?.
My selections are: 1. Elden Ring 2. Hades 2 3. Dragon's Dogma 2 4. Stalker 2 5. FF 7: Rebirth 6. GTA 6 7. DA:tV
GTA 6 is the one to beat, imo.
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Post by gervaise21 on Jul 9, 2024 12:56:54 GMT
DAV sounds more and more like ME2, trying to recreate their biggest success. So I wouldn't be surprised it's a lot like this. I'll be happy if it is like ME2 too. I also like that even if you earned their loyalty, that didn't necessarily mean the relationship was plain sailing. A friend of mine was angling for Miranda but then in her argument with Jack, took the side of Jack and Miranda slammed the door on him and that was it for their romance. By contrast I just told them both to cool it and didn't harm my relationship with Jack at all. I am getting a sense that something similar might be in operation for DAV, even if it doesn't involve conflict between companions (but for all we know it might). Granted the A team is now largely made up of different people too. So we'll have to see. I think most of the content was written before the recent redundancies, so hopefully the characters didn't suffer too much as a result. In fact I am quite hopeful that much of the main story was established as far back as 2020 and the delays have all been due to the constant switching from single player to multi-player and back again. Perhaps some filler was needed once they decided on single player only but the core narrative and the part the companions play in it has remained the same throughout. With any luck we may even have got the original heist game that Mike Laidlaw was bemoaning would never see the light of day.
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Post by luketrevelyan on Jul 9, 2024 13:03:35 GMT
I couldn't really tell from the article - is the relationship level the only way to get skill points for companions or do they level like us and we get bonus skill points from relationship level?
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Post by Sartoz on Jul 9, 2024 13:05:21 GMT
Another downside to approval in general, you then tend to take certain companions out on the field with you, with a quest's approval points in mind to manage relationships - instead of letting them play out organically, and taking whoever you like. The most ridiculous one for me was Iron Bull. I played through the entire game without triggering his personal quest. Then came to the boards and discovered people talking about it. Checked the Wiki and realised it must have had something to do with his approval. Went back to an earlier save and took him on a dragon hunt, which boosted his approval sufficiently to trigger it. From a role playing point of view it was ridiculous that he would base his recommendation concerning my suitability to work with the Qun on indulging his personal enjoyment. What sort of spy was he? Considering how important Par Vollen thought stopping the export of red lyrium was, that was surely one personal quest that should have triggered almost automatically, possibly once we had discovered the requisite number of red lyrium deposits or something. Yet that one was linked to Varric. Sometimes it didn't make sense. So, as you say, I much prefer ME2 where you got offered the loyal quest regardless and then it was up to you if you took it and how it played out.
Normally, I take Bio's marketing hype regarding these things with a grain of salt. However, with personal skill points unlocked via approval ratings, I find the mechanic unwelcomed. My beef is that now I'm obliged to spend time doing something I don't like to do (except if I romance someone). Bio's explanation of "it's a family" or "get to know deep chars" as an excuse to sit down by the fire and chat (at the Lighthouse) is OK but not when it's forced. I'd rather get to know my companions via my travels from point A to B and listen to to banter on the way. Hm... how good will the banter be with two companions?
ME1, for example, "forced" you to visit each char after a mission. All I feel is a pain in my arse when doing this. I mean, I want to finish this game in a month not three. DA:V is forcing me to complete this game in "a year". I'm not a chatter box... which this games seems to be.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Jul 9, 2024 13:08:56 GMT
Wondering which games out there or shortly out there in 2024 that are considered game of the year nominees?.
My selections are: 1. Elden Ring 2. Hades 2 3. Dragon's Dogma 2 4. Stalker 2 5. FF 7: Rebirth 6. GTA 6 7. DA:tV
GTA 6 is the one to beat, imo.
Not suier I'd count Elden Ring given it's a DLC not a full game also ER won it the year it initially released and I thinkGTA6 is a 2025 release isn' t it last I checked so again no tup for it. which narrows i tdown to 5. Right now I'd as yit's betewen Veilguard and Dragon's Dogma from that list I would say Rebirth but I'v eheard it didn't sell that well so not sure whic his wh ySquare are considering droppin gexclusivity. But yeah I think it's betewen Veilguard and DD2. Unless something like a Helldiver's makes an apearance given tha tgame was quite popular
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Post by witchcocktor on Jul 9, 2024 13:13:03 GMT
Oh great, more '' found family '' nonsense, thanks I hate it already
this is such a teen literature trope that I wish went away
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Post by luketrevelyan on Jul 9, 2024 13:17:32 GMT
Wondering which games out there or shortly out there in 2024 that are considered game of the year nominees?.
My selections are: 1. Elden Ring 2. Hades 2 3. Dragon's Dogma 2 4. Stalker 2 5. FF 7: Rebirth 6. GTA 6 7. DA:tV
GTA 6 is the one to beat, imo.
Not suier I'd count Elden Ring given it's a DLC not a full game also ER won it the year it initially released and I thinkGTA6 is a 2025 release isn' t it last I checked so again no tup for it. which narrows i tdown to 5. Right now I'd as yit's betewen Veilguard and Dragon's Dogma from that list I would say Rebirth but I'v eheard it didn't sell that well so not sure whic his wh ySquare are considering droppin gexclusivity. But yeah I think it's betewen Veilguard and DD2. Unless something like a Helldiver's makes an apearance given tha tgame was quite popular Yeah I would not like a DLC winning GOTY but I wouldn't be surprised if it still won a few anyway. The Game Awards has been pretty lax about letting remakes and DLCs get nominated in the past so I could see it happening. Can't really say with Veilguard until it releases how much of a chance it has other than this year isn't that loaded so that helps.
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Post by Sartoz on Jul 9, 2024 13:24:10 GMT
I couldn't really tell from the article - is the relationship level the only way to get skill points for companions or do they level like us and we get bonus skill points from relationship level?
That's the thing. Rook's progression seems to have no effect on the relationship level. The latter must be achieved by additional effort to "please" a companion. If so, I find it silly as you cannot unlock everyone's skill points equally. This implies some forward thinking regarding companion choice... ie: the A team.
So as a Mage, I need:
1. tank = Taash or Devrin 2. rogue = Lucanis or 2. range = Lace or 2. mage = Neve or Bellara or Emmrich
My tank will unlock skill points faster than the others because of necessity. Am I missing something?
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Post by Kappa Neko on Jul 9, 2024 13:24:16 GMT
Bio's explanation of "it's a family" or "get to know deep chars" as an excuse to sit down by the fire and chat (at the Lighthouse) is OK but not when it's forced. I'd rather get to know my companions via my travels from point A to B and listen to to banter on the way. Hm... how good will the banter be with two companions
ME1, for example, "forced" you to visit each char after a mission. All I feel is a pain in my arse when doing this. I mean, I want to finish this game in a month not three. DA:V is forcing me to complete this game in "a year". I'm not a chatter box... which this games seems to be.
I'm the opposite. When playing DAO for the first time I was amazed that I just spent 40min just talking to everyone at camp, doing nothing else. It was amazing. I would get all giddy at the prospect of more camp talk unlocking. I live for this shit. Nevermind the combat or even the main plots let's talk about how everyone is doing!
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Post by Kappa Neko on Jul 9, 2024 13:30:49 GMT
Oh great, more '' found family '' nonsense, thanks I hate it already this is such a teen literature trope that I wish went away I feel attacked, lol. It's my favorite thing. It's what I loved about the Witcher novels too. Those were kinda like BioWare games, all about the lovable group of misfits and the found family of Geralt/Ciri/Yen. I love found family, I love actual family drama. I love everything to do with a character's kid. It's really wish fulfillment on my part. Sorry if that's not your cup if tea. Brace for LOTS of that then. :/ RPGs with party focus always seem to be surrogate friends and family to lonely gamers. And people are more lonely than ever. I think DAV is going all in on making people feel warm and cozy with the companions.
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Post by Gwydden on Jul 9, 2024 13:35:08 GMT
I'm the opposite. When playing DAO for the first time I was amazed that I just spent 40min just talking to everyone at camp, doing nothing else. It was amazing. I would get all giddy at the prospect of more camp talk unlocking. I live for this shit. Nevermind the combat or even the main plots let's talk about how everyone is doing! I recall DA:O having the issue of most dialogue not being gated by anything other than approval, so right outside of Lothering you could exhaust most of what Alistair, Morrigan, Leliana, and Sten had to say and they would be fairly quiet for the rest of the game except for a few lines after their personal quest. I couldn't really pace myself at the time because chatting to companions in camp was one of my favorite things to do.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Jul 9, 2024 13:37:44 GMT
Not suier I'd count Elden Ring given it's a DLC not a full game also ER won it the year it initially released and I thinkGTA6 is a 2025 release isn' t it last I checked so again no tup for it. which narrows i tdown to 5. Right now I'd as yit's betewen Veilguard and Dragon's Dogma from that list I would say Rebirth but I'v eheard it didn't sell that well so not sure whic his wh ySquare are considering droppin gexclusivity. But yeah I think it's betewen Veilguard and DD2. Unless something like a Helldiver's makes an apearance given tha tgame was quite popular Yeah I would not like a DLC winning GOTY but I wouldn't be surprised if it still won a few anyway. The Game Awards has been pretty lax about letting remakes and DLCs get nominated in the past so I could see it happening. Can't really say with Veilguard until it releases how much of a chance it has other than this year isn't that loaded so that helps. Yeah we can't really as yunti lVeilguard drops but the thing tha tis in favour of Veilguard is tha tit' sreleasing in a yea rwhere i tdoesn't hav an ystron gcompetition. Th eonly thing that's potentiall ygood enough to stand in the way is Dragon' sDogma and maybe something like Helldivers as I don't see Stalker making that man ywaves either other than maybe gettin g1 o r2 sympath yvotes due to the whole war thing the devs had to go through.
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Post by luketrevelyan on Jul 9, 2024 13:40:48 GMT
Oh great, more '' found family '' nonsense, thanks I hate it already this is such a teen literature trope that I wish went away I feel attacked, lol. It's my favorite thing. It's what I loved about the Witcher novels too. Those were kinda like BioWare games, all about the lovable group of misfits and the found family of Geralt/Ciri/Yen. I love found family, I love actual family drama. I love everything to do with a character's kid. It's really wish fulfillment on my part. Sorry if that's not your cup if tea. Brace for LOTS of that then. :/ RPGs with party focus always seem to be surrogate friends and family to lonely gamers. And people are more lonely than ever. I think DAV is going all in on making people feel warm and cozy with the companions. I can like it but only if it feels right for my character. I don't want the game to force it. Like with MEA they immediately were like "yay let's all have a movie night together" and I'm like "I don't even know you" so it just felt off. It should be something I organically come to discover (or not).
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Post by sloth on Jul 9, 2024 14:10:54 GMT
Wondering which games out there or shortly out there in 2024 that are considered game of the year nominees?.
My selections are: 1. Elden Ring 2. Hades 2 3. Dragon's Dogma 2 4. Stalker 2 5. FF 7: Rebirth 6. GTA 6 7. DA:tV
GTA 6 is the one to beat, imo.
if Veilguard is being released this Fall, and GTA 6 is expected to release late 2025, are they really running for the same GOTY Award? not sure about the actual deadline for a game to be released and still be a contestant to the 2024' GOTY Award, but DA:I was released in November 18 and still won the GOTY that year. and I guess a game being released too early in the year would make it less likely to win the award, since people would be talking less about it and more about newer games (FF7 Rebirth comes to mind, we don't see a lot of discussions about the game nowadays, so I don't think it is the stronger contestant)
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Post by roselavellan on Jul 9, 2024 14:17:31 GMT
I mean, I want to finish this game in a month not three. DA:V is forcing me to complete this game in "a year". Suits me, tbh. Means we'll only have 9 years to wait for DA5 after this
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Post by lk13 on Jul 9, 2024 14:25:22 GMT
Yeah, I'm expecting (and indeed looking forward to!) a wave of BG3 imitators in a few years, but it's wildly unlikely that any of them will be as successful or good as BG3 is. In addition to having the 5th edition license and an extended period of early access, Larian are in a unique position having made multiple RPGs on the engine they used for the game before AND not having a publisher breathing down their necks AND having the reputation BioWare built for the Baldur's Gate series. What will really be interesting is if Larian are able to build on their success for the next Divinity game and the new science fiction IP they're working on now that they've parted ways with Hasbro. They've clearly got incredible talent over there, but also I feel like their tendency toward scope creep is going to bite them one of these days. (Like, more than it already did in the Original Sin games and BG3 Act III.) I'm intrigued to see how the industry will react to BG3's success too, though I'm still uncertain if the "big names" will actually go through with it. I'm trying to picture, like, a Ubisoft or CDPR cRPG and I can't imagine it, it seems so surreal
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Post by our_lady_of_darkness on Jul 9, 2024 14:59:32 GMT
I feel attacked, lol. It's my favorite thing. It's what I loved about the Witcher novels too. Those were kinda like BioWare games, all about the lovable group of misfits and the found family of Geralt/Ciri/Yen. I love found family, I love actual family drama. I love everything to do with a character's kid. It's really wish fulfillment on my part. Sorry if that's not your cup if tea. Brace for LOTS of that then. :/ RPGs with party focus always seem to be surrogate friends and family to lonely gamers. And people are more lonely than ever. I think DAV is going all in on making people feel warm and cozy with the companions. I can like it but only if it feels right for my character. I don't want the game to force it. Like with MEA they immediately were like "yay let's all have a movie night together" and I'm like "I don't even know you" so it just felt off. It should be something I organically come to discover (or not). To add my 2 cents: I enjoy when characters have their own, often conflicting, agenda (such as Iron Bull as a Qunari spy in DAI) and make selfish choices. I think it makes for a far more interesting narrative than simply "we're family" cliche.
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Post by gervaise21 on Jul 9, 2024 15:06:28 GMT
Hm... how good will the banter be with two companions? Well at least there won't be any doubt who they will talk to if at all. In DAI I would include a particular fourth party member in the hope of getting their dialogue but it did seem to be rather pot luck if you did depending on who else was in the party and if they got priority.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Jul 9, 2024 15:12:03 GMT
Wondering which games out there or shortly out there in 2024 that are considered game of the year nominees?.
My selections are: 1. Elden Ring 2. Hades 2 3. Dragon's Dogma 2 4. Stalker 2 5. FF 7: Rebirth 6. GTA 6 7. DA:tV
GTA 6 is the one to beat, imo.
if Veilguard is being released this Fall, and GTA 6 is expected to release late 2025, are they really running for the same GOTY Award? not sure about the actual deadline for a game to be released and still be a contestant to the 2024' GOTY Award, but DA:I was released in November 18 and still won the GOTY that year. and I guess a game being released too early in the year would make it less likely to win the award, since people would be talking less about it and more about newer games (FF7 Rebirth comes to mind, we don't see a lot of discussions about the game nowadays, so I don't think it is the stronger contestant) I would as yas long as it's no treleased too late fo rconsideration then I don' tthink it matters As Elden Rin gwas launched in February was it no tas remembe rit lasunched the following week aft reForbidden West whic hwas wh yHorizon kind of fel lof the map. I personally prefer Horizon but I understand why but then that yea rwas quite competitive as was last year I think. This year not s omuch as it's looking like a quie tyear for high leve lRPG's other than Veilguard an dDragon's Dogma. I would as yas long as Veilguard releases befoer December when th egame Awards happen it's in the running .But i thas t obe ou tan din a good state fo rit to be considered. For the mos tpart for me Bioware's games have launched in a pretty solid state the onl yexception t othat rule was probably Andromeda which at firs tI couldn't keep i trunning for 5 minutes at times without it crashing. I tgenerall y runs well now though when I play it. Another game w ecan't completely dismiss is Avowed though as whilst it's no ton m yradar as I don' treall yplay Bethesda RPG's much it likel ywill pull some people in. Which is why I'm kind of hoping for Bioware's sake Veilguard comes in October get's out th edoor and gets people talking about it in a positive way and convinces EA to ease off on the kill switch for now. I'm not saying this will happen but it is what I hope will happen.
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Post by phoray on Jul 9, 2024 16:47:12 GMT
Regarding the GameInformer Article about relationships. I find it bemusing to observe they wanted to make the relationships feel more real in DAI by removing the track bar. By connecting it to literally how you level companions up, they have made it even more of an obvious game mechanic. Wouldn't this create the issue that I always have to bring the people I'm friends with even if they're strategically a poor choice for the battle? Now we're buttering them up so they're useful in battle. Not that I was being strategic anyway but I'm not the min maxer some folks love to be.
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Post by Gwydden on Jul 9, 2024 17:02:25 GMT
Regarding the GameInformer Article about relationships. I find it bemusing to observe they wanted to make the relationships feel more real in DAI by removing the track bar. By connecting it to literally how you level companions up, they have made it even more of an obvious game mechanic. Wouldn't this create the issue that I always have to bring the people I'm friends with even if they're strategically a poor choice for the battle? Now we're buttering them up so they're useful in battle. Not that I was being strategic anyway but I'm not the min maxer some folks love to be. I think folks are overthinking this. I've never found it hard to max out everyone's relationship meter in DA:O or DA2. You don't even need to bring them around often or suck up to them. This to me just sounds like they're tracking companion progression through your relationship with them rather than XP.
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Post by phoray on Jul 9, 2024 17:17:40 GMT
Regarding the GameInformer Article about relationships. I find it bemusing to observe they wanted to make the relationships feel more real in DAI by removing the track bar. By connecting it to literally how you level companions up, they have made it even more of an obvious game mechanic. Wouldn't this create the issue that I always have to bring the people I'm friends with even if they're strategically a poor choice for the battle? Now we're buttering them up so they're useful in battle. Not that I was being strategic anyway but I'm not the min maxer some folks love to be. I think folks are overthinking this. I've never found it hard to max out everyone's relationship meter in DA:O or DA2. You don't even need to bring them around often or suck up to them. This to me just sounds like they're tracking companion progression through your relationship with them rather than XP. Say that to Fenris dying in the third act because my being nice to mages on missions and my being nice to him during conversations kept him close enough to middle that he wasn't locked one direction or another. In subsequent play throughs, I use a guide to find a way to friend him and rival Isabella by carefully selection which missions to bring each on depending on how I know I'll RP.
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jennica
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Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Neverwinter Nights, Mass Effect Andromeda, SWTOR, Anthem, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
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Post by jennica on Jul 9, 2024 18:21:07 GMT
I usually don't have a problem with raising relationship level with companions but if it's the only way to level up them, then I'm definitely not a fan of this decision. It will force you into being friendly with every companion, even if it doesn't make sense for your Rook. Unless DAVe will have similar system to DA2, ofc, maybe not friendship/rivalry, but something else.
Another game w ecan't completely dismiss is Avowed though as whilst it's no ton m yradar as I don' treall yplay Bethesda RPG's much it likel ywill pull some people in. Avowed is not Bethesda's game tho.
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Post by gervaise21 on Jul 9, 2024 18:26:03 GMT
I had a similar problem with Isabella. First run she ran off with the tome and never came back. It seemed the trick was the flirt with her just once when offering her the ship in a bottle. This happened automatically with my second Hawke who romanced her but it did create a problem with my third Hawke who was gay. Problem was she turned up at my mansion wanting sex and he had to politely refuse. Luckily she just made disparaging remarks but I don't think it affected the meter because that time round she did come back even without the romance.
Hopefully, loyalty will just depend on doing their personal mission, which is integrated into the main narrative. Whilst it would be good to boost their abilities, first run I'm not going to let that artificially affect my choices of who to take with me on missions but just try and go with whomever I think the most suitable.
I'm more interested in how this mechanic will affect balancing of game play. Part of the reason I hardly ever took Sera with me in DAI was that when I wasn't playing a mage, I played an archer, so I didn't really need her. Ditto Iron Bull and Blackwall because I usually only went with one tank at a time and preferred Cassandra. First run, when I did play a mage, I took along Solas (lover) and Cole, because my female Lavellan didn't get along with Sera anyway after she pummeled that guy to death and if I did want a ranged companion I opted for Varric. It didn't bother me that time round that I never got the rest of her personal quests and of course it made no difference to the end result. However, it was usually the 4th slot where doubling up of classes occurred, so depending on my class, we might have two mages or two rogues in the party. Actually I discovered it was possible to run with as many a 3 mages on some quests, which I did to get the banter between them, but I was pretty lethal as a Knight Enchanter so could afford to do this.
Now if it is necessary for us to ring the changes with the companions and we only have a party of three, necessarily there are going to be times when we will be minus one class because of doubling up with our own. So, they must take that into account. Otherwise, if you need one from each class for a balanced party, as I intend playing a mage first run that would mean I would hardly ever need Neve, Bellara or Emmrich. Presumably they have taken that into account and perhaps that is why Bellara has a bow and it is possible for Rook to be a mage who uses blades.
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Post by Gwydden on Jul 9, 2024 18:32:22 GMT
Another game w ecan't completely dismiss is Avowed though as whilst it's no ton m yradar as I don' treall yplay Bethesda RPG's much it likel ywill pull some people in. Avowed is not Bethesda's game tho. And AA games like Avowed, Bloodlines 2, and Greedfall 2 are not really competing with Veilguard, which is on a different ballpark.
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