Schmooples' Den! The DA News Discussion Thread

Yep!

Regarding Neve, I also love that she's not even remotely interested in academia or advancing her magic for the sake of it. She's just someone who has magic. It's a tool for her. She's a prodigy, but she's completely self-taught. She was the only mage in her family, and some of them tried using her to climb. Through all that, she's still a selfless and driven person.

We've never seen mages like that before.

One entire quest? To explain to the player, "Hey look at this, bad thing happened in Tevinter (regarding slavery)". 

The lore said that Dorian Pavus and Maevaris fighting against the Slavery, so excuse me if it's hard to believe if Slavery is such an acute problem  in Tevinter that Dorian And Maevaris had to fight against, when there is only 1 Quest (which Slavery isn't the point, by the way, it enables it, but the main point of the quest is Venatori putsch), and.... a character that magically appears in DAI (and requires you to read outside game reading material to dig deeper into her motivation) as prove that *everyone* is oppressed in Dock Town/Tevinter.


I am not admitting to anything. I simply saying what could've been. I don't want anything. I am  however bitter, but most of all saddened that after 10 years we get a poorly made sequel (about 2 balds idiots and one hentai girl) 

I do. I think it's fun game and I will definitely spend hundred of hours of it.

But it's poorly written, and overall a just "OK" game.

It's like McDonalds, it's delicious, but I'm not going to say that McD is the haute cotour of food. It's fast food.

Veilguard's story could've been about a lot of things... it isn't. While it's always fun to imagine possibilities I genuinely believe it's better to deal with a product as it is rather then our wild and random speculation.

Which yes we * could have* had a elven or Qunari revolution but such things aren't how DA operates. When it comes to social issues/ strife such things are introduced as problems to solve, a big bad comes along to overturn the apple cart,big bad is defeated, things go largely back to how they were. Which tends to be how these things work. Any social change tends to be very incremental and chalk full of compromises.

Midnight Tea is incorrect when she says the Lore is established and therefore it no longer needs to be touched upon. Basically because it's not about imparting lore but about an inconsistency with worldbuilding but places like TheGamer have already written about this to death. People just choose to ignore it

But that's the thing - it is touched upon. We literally can be a part of an organization fighting institutionalized slavery in a heart of the Empire that still practices it, clearing tunnels used to transport slaves, saving civilians from becoming blood ritual fodder AND choosing an Archon insistent on delegalizing slavery as the first decree they do. And we do that, while the entire stiryline is about 5 other things simultaneusly, never mind the main questline.

There are no inconsistencies; OP is complaining that there's just too little content focused on that for their taste, which is not the same as inconsistencies.

I mean, it's quite obvious that after DAVe (and any big bad of past 3 games - not counting DAO here, because Artchdemons are a known threat and they've been through several Blights already) the change is more than incremental - the entire geopolitical landscape is basically shattered, although not wholly gone, and many old institutions, nationalities and groups will be struggling to find themselves in a world where the most destructive force isn't even the blighted gods, but that the truth about Thedas' past that is very different from what Chant of Light or elven myths claim it was, and in some cases - like dwarven history - was completely forgotten about (or may have been even purposefully erased).

The Qun, on the other hand, has turned out to be a very brittle construct that didn't survive increasing internal tensions, while the race is probably facing some very big reveals about where they actually come from in the next title.

Those are some BIG changes - not as big as if the world e.g. was Veilless, but Thedas is neverheless forever changed.

One person's experiences is light anecdotal evidence. Not really worthy of mentioning. As I've said before I believe the writers of Dragon Age trended toward Urban Fantasy, which has a different tone and focus than epic fantasy, providing a disconnect with previous fans about what is expected. Epic fantasy has a wider scope, dealing with bigger issues, urban fantasy imo is more personal. That's my opinion, it's not a popular one, but I think it'd be more popular than David Jaffe's who believes the writing is more young adult.

I brought up The Gamer because they're obviously big fans of the series, and they hate certain gamers so obviously a popular view with a certain section of people. And even they aren't happy with the writing. I would think that people would be more willing to accept their point of view than mine *points up*. Stacey Henley is trans and is a big fan of Taash. 

Suspension of Disbelief is a big deal with writing. Also not talking about themes here, you're rarely jolted out of a story because of the misunderstanding of a theme

Really? :S

Playing a hundred hours over a story driven game that you claim to be poorly written? So you do like something about the story otherwise you wouldn’t be wasting hours of your life over something that’s terribly written.

But what has been broken in the game?

It's one of the most enjoyable aspects of Dragon Age for those who like to look beyond the surface - that people's opinions and sources are, by their nature, biased and the truth often is different, or more complex, from what people believe it is.

Basically, quite like in real life. I love it.