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Post by midnight tea on Jun 12, 2024 0:21:05 GMT
And they're probably better dead than dead and, say, Blighted. Or the world being like that future we saw in Inquisition - a destroyed, dead world. Plus they would've been either dead or enslaved by the Evanuris anyways. 'I die free' and all the rest. I mean, they were enslaved, and Solas fought against that. But then the rest of Evanuris killed Mythal and, according to Solas, they were planning to do something unspeakable, which is what pushed him to lift the Veil. It's hard to say what it was (I hope we'll eventually learn all the juicy details), but I have a sneaking suspicion it definitely has something to do with the Blight, or something related to it.
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Post by colfoley on Jun 12, 2024 0:22:14 GMT
Plus they would've been either dead or enslaved by the Evanuris anyways. 'I die free' and all the rest. I mean, they were enslaved, and while Solas fought against that. But then the rest of Evanuris killed Mythal and, according to Solas, they were planning to do something unspeakable, which is what pushed him to lift the Veil. It's hard to say what it was (I hope we'll eventually learn all the juicy details), but I have a sneaking suspicion it definitely has something to do with the Blight, or something related to it. ANd likely killed her because she was the one voice in opposition and probbaly wanted her out of the way/ had to be a unanimious decision.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jun 12, 2024 0:22:48 GMT
Given what we know, when has Solas ever been right. He destroyed a civilization once and should not get a second shot at doing in another. He didn't destroy a civilization on a whim - he destroyed a civilization while trying to prevent SOMETHING WORSE. While we still don't exactly know what that 'something worse' is, given that we already know a little bit about Evanuris and the Blight, it's not like we can't already see what it could be. It's a case of someone running out of options while facing the crappiest of dilemmas. According to him, someone who is known as a liar and manipulator. I’ll trust Merrill and not trust a single thing out of his mouth. That’s worked so far.
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Post by midnight tea on Jun 12, 2024 0:23:29 GMT
I mean, they were enslaved, and while Solas fought against that. But then the rest of Evanuris killed Mythal and, according to Solas, they were planning to do something unspeakable, which is what pushed him to lift the Veil. It's hard to say what it was (I hope we'll eventually learn all the juicy details), but I have a sneaking suspicion it definitely has something to do with the Blight, or something related to it. ANd likely killed her because she was the one voice in opposition and probbaly wanted her out of the way/ had to be a unanimious decision. Or she held the key to that power.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jun 12, 2024 0:23:44 GMT
Alternatively though there is a possibility, again based on things we have seen/ other fan interpretations of what we have seen...that we might end up allying with one or both of the other Evanuris to stop Solas as well in the game. Even better if this ends up being an RP choice. Like we get presented a fork in the road option towards the climax 'go ally with Solas, or Elgar'nan.' I remember speculating - and still somewhat clinging to hope that it'll happen - that in the end our Inquisitor could make an evil/wrong or good choice and we have to react accordingly or stop them. What do you mean?
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Post by Heart on Jun 12, 2024 0:24:16 GMT
Do we have any more confirmation on who writes each companion
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Post by sentinel87 on Jun 12, 2024 0:25:04 GMT
So I just saw that DAV will not be using the Keep. Those few options that Bioware mentions you can select at the beginning of the game are probably to do with the Inquisitor, the status of the Inquisition, the goal of the Inquisitor in regards to Solas and if Solas was romanced. I doubt it's going to be anything as expansive as the Keep so new players aren't overwhelmed. It will be a little spoilerish as whatever they ask will most likely be involved in the game instead of being like DA:I where we didn't know what of the huge amount of inputs into the Keep would even show up.
I don't see how they can do little cameos from all the small little things we did in previous games if there is no Keep import. I have mixed feelings on the Keep. On the one hand it's lets you set up a world state and allows Bioware to pull small things for cameos or callbacks if they want. On the other hand a online portal, while convenient, isn't guaranteed to exist forever, though on PC we'd certainly get something thrown together by someone.
Kind of disappointed at this a little. All those DAI choices in the Keep become pointless and won't be used.
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Post by azarhal on Jun 12, 2024 0:25:46 GMT
Do we have any more confirmation on who writes each companion Check the Companion line-up thread first post. It should have what we know so far.
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Post by midnight tea on Jun 12, 2024 0:25:59 GMT
He didn't destroy a civilization on a whim - he destroyed a civilization while trying to prevent SOMETHING WORSE. While we still don't exactly know what that 'something worse' is, given that we already know a little bit about Evanuris and the Blight, it's not like we can't already see what it could be. It's a case of someone running out of options while facing the crappiest of dilemmas. According to him, someone who is known as a liar and manipulator. I’ll trust Merrill and not trust a single thing out of his mouth. That’s worked so far. He's a known liar and manipulator mostly in Dalish myths and Evanuris propaganda. And if we didn't listen to him, we'd neither reach Skyhold nor stop Corypheus.
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Post by colfoley on Jun 12, 2024 0:26:32 GMT
ANother strong possibility on the plot trajectory is that the Evanuris will instantly peace out and poof away to various parts of the map so part of the opening of the game will be to go to the places where weird stuff is happening to see if its related to these two, recruit companions who can help us fight, and find ways of stopping them.
Goodness I am so surprised that THIS is how they are starting the game. Like we were discussing the possibility for years but the Chutz'pah to actually see them do it. Amazing.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jun 12, 2024 0:27:22 GMT
According to him, someone who is known as a liar and manipulator. I’ll trust Merrill and not trust a single thing out of his mouth. That’s worked so far. He's a known liar and manipulator mostly in Dalish myths and Evanuris propaganda. And if we didn't listen to him, we'd neither reach Skyhold nor stop Corypheus. And in reality, since the whole time he was lying to us and manipulating us.
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Post by colfoley on Jun 12, 2024 0:28:27 GMT
So I just saw that DAV will not be using the Keep. Those few options that Bioware mentions you can select at the beginning of the game are probably to do with the Inquisitor, the status of the Inquisition, the goal of the Inquisitor in regards to Solas and if Solas was romanced. I doubt it's going to be anything as expansive as the Keep so new players aren't overwhelmed. It will be a little spoilerish as whatever they ask will most likely be involved in the game instead of being like DA:I where we didn't know what of the huge amount of inputs into the Keep would even show up. I don't see how they can do little cameos from all the small little things we did in previous games if there is no Keep import. I have mixed feelings on the Keep. On the one hand it's lets you set up a world state and allows Bioware to pull small things for cameos or callbacks if they want. On the other hand a online portal, while convenient, isn't guaranteed to exist forever, though on PC we'd certainly get something thrown together by someone. Kind of disappointed at this a little. All those DAI choices in the Keep become pointless and won't be used. They could get away with fairly generic options and write the dialogue with that in mind. And the less quantum a character is the better, that is why we're still likely to see Dorian and not Iron Bull for instance.
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Post by AlleluiaElizabeth on Jun 12, 2024 0:29:51 GMT
My hopes for a Blue Wraith cameo are both higher and lower than they've ever been. I really want him to meet Dorian. So badly. XD And see what happened to him if he got sold back. Not that I have a world state for that. Praise youtube.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jun 12, 2024 0:31:29 GMT
So I just saw that DAV will not be using the Keep. Those few options that Bioware mentions you can select at the beginning of the game are probably to do with the Inquisitor, the status of the Inquisition, the goal of the Inquisitor in regards to Solas and if Solas was romanced. I doubt it's going to be anything as expansive as the Keep so new players aren't overwhelmed. It will be a little spoilerish as whatever they ask will most likely be involved in the game instead of being like DA:I where we didn't know what of the huge amount of inputs into the Keep would even show up. I don't see how they can do little cameos from all the small little things we did in previous games if there is no Keep import. I have mixed feelings on the Keep. On the one hand it's lets you set up a world state and allows Bioware to pull small things for cameos or callbacks if they want. On the other hand a online portal, while convenient, isn't guaranteed to exist forever, though on PC we'd certainly get something thrown together by someone. Kind of disappointed at this a little. All those DAI choices in the Keep become pointless and won't be used. I think it’ll have more than that. At least who the Inquisitor romanced, did they befriend their companions, who is leading the various nations or the Chantry, etc.
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Post by azarhal on Jun 12, 2024 0:32:42 GMT
ANother strong possibility on the plot trajectory is that the Evanuris will instantly peace out and poof away to various parts of the map so part of the opening of the game will be to go to the places where weird stuff is happening to see if its related to these two, recruit companions who can help us fight, and find ways of stopping them. Goodness I am so surprised that THIS is how they are starting the game. Like we were discussing the possibility for years but the Chutz'pah to actually see them do it. Amazing. I expected it for years and i got it (I'm kinda surprised we got to see it actually) and now I'm just grinning.
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Post by colfoley on Jun 12, 2024 0:32:51 GMT
Either way this sounds like a CC I might actually spend HOURs in like the cliche this time around. Gotta really get both Oliver and Kara's looks right...
Hmmm wonder if they will worry about body sliders for the Inquisitor?
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Post by Sartoz on Jun 12, 2024 0:34:15 GMT
Yeah but he's not seeing it for himself. He's not really thinking things through other than barreling through what he feels is the only option he has. Even after all this time he asks Varric if there's another way. Given what we know, when has Solas ever been right. He destroyed a civilization once and should not get a second shot at doing in another.
Terminate Baldy with extreme prejudice, I say. He weakened the Veil, two elder gods popped out....Baldy is a mass killer !!!
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Post by midnight tea on Jun 12, 2024 0:35:35 GMT
I remember speculating - and still somewhat clinging to hope that it'll happen - that in the end our Inquisitor could make an evil/wrong or good choice and we have to react accordingly or stop them. What do you mean? Found that old comment, so I'll just paste the relevant part:
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Post by colfoley on Jun 12, 2024 0:35:56 GMT
Remind me can you buy the standalone additions to the game informer mag or is it by subscription only? Might pop into game stop one of these days soon and get just it if I can. I wanna read the thing and I suspect while I am sure people will do their best to sumarize things might fall through the cracks.
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Post by eaglepursuit on Jun 12, 2024 0:39:22 GMT
Do we have any more confirmation on who writes each companion Trick Weekes wrote the Qunari
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jun 12, 2024 0:39:50 GMT
Either way this sounds like a CC I might actually spend HOURs in like the cliche this time around. Gotta really get both Oliver and Kara's looks right... Hmmm wonder if they will worry about body sliders for the Inquisitor? Probably. I imagine it’ll be the same CC as for Rook.
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Post by midnight tea on Jun 12, 2024 0:40:08 GMT
My hopes for a Blue Wraith cameo are both higher and lower than they've ever been. I really want him to meet Dorian. So badly. XD And see what happened to him if he got sold back. Not that I have a world state for that. Praise youtube. IMO the friend that Varric mention - the one who recommended working with Shadow Dragons if he was ever in Minrathous - probably has an amazing moustache
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jun 12, 2024 0:40:36 GMT
Found that old comment, so I'll just paste the relevant part: Ah, okay. Yeah, don’t want anything even remotely like that thanks.
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Post by celestielf on Jun 12, 2024 0:40:51 GMT
He didn't destroy a civilization on a whim - he destroyed a civilization while trying to prevent SOMETHING WORSE. While we still don't exactly know what that 'something worse' is, given that we already know a little bit about Evanuris and the Blight, it's not like we can't already see what it could be. It's a case of someone running out of options while facing the crappiest of dilemmas. According to him, someone who is known as a liar and manipulator. I’ll trust Merrill and not trust a single thing out of his mouth. That’s worked so far. The thing about Solas is that while he is deceptive in what he pretended to be (a humble apostate), he isn't that good of a liar and tells the truth more often than not. He just withholds information. So, with that, when he *does* share information, it isn't that likely to be false, IMO. Especially since the writers no doubt used him as a mouthpiece to give us lore clues. Would be kind of pointless to turn around and say "actually killing the last archdemons will be totally fine and the evanuris were wise and kind rulers."
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jun 12, 2024 0:43:13 GMT
According to him, someone who is known as a liar and manipulator. I’ll trust Merrill and not trust a single thing out of his mouth. That’s worked so far. The thing about Solas is that while he is deceptive in what he pretended to be (a humble apostate), he isn't that good of a liar and tells the truth more often than not. He just withholds information. So, with that, when he *does* share information, it isn't that likely to be false, IMO. Especially since the writers no doubt used him as a mouthpiece to give us lore clues. Would be kind of pointless to turn around and say "actually killing the last archdemons will be totally fine and the evanuris were wise and kind rulers." Lying by omission is still lying. Actually, part of me would genuinely love that to be a twist.
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