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Post by ClarkKent on Jul 15, 2024 17:08:54 GMT
Companions aren't going to try to kill you over stabbing a peasant, lol. Dragon Age is, or was, a dark fantasy that resembles the Medieval era. Alistair was probably the 'greenest' companion of the bunch, and he quietly watched Duncan shank Jory for not completing the joining. Life is tough, and Thedas is full of ruthless people. That, and our protagonists are meant to, by default, be quite strong and imposing leaders. Unless you step way out of a companions ethical lines, like the Urn of Sacred Ashes, mutiny isn't going to be taken lightly. Sorry to be a pedant (I'm not, actually, but whatever), but Origins resembles what people think the medieval ages look like, rather than what it was in actuality. Which is nothing new, given it's been happening since the sixteenth century. If anything, it draws on how GRRM portrays the medieval ages, which also draws on other reconstructions of the time period. I can assure you quite confidently, however, that medieval period mostly likely did not have a sepia toned filter over everything the way it does in Origins.
I've said this before and I'll say this again: killing people to show off a utilitarian philosophy isn't dark, or I guess it can be if your definition of dark is lots of blood and death, but that's not the same as mature writing. Really, what it is, is pulp. It exists to excuse and perpetuate unnecessary violence so the player can feel important and cool, not because it actually has any sort of critique on the usage of violence. Which doesn't have to be a bad thing. Pulpy stories are fun. I love early Moorcock and Leiber. But I'm always going to side eye people that make some sort of implicit connection between 'dark' writing and 'good' writing.
Edit: I'll also note I find Alistair's reaction to the Joining incongruous with his reaction to a Harrowing. He stated he only ever saw one Harrowing and that was enough for him, but then is fine with Duncan killing someone during the Joining? To me, that's not an intentional contradiction, it's ignoring an aspect of Alistair's character for the sake of moving the plot along and reinforcing his hero worship of the Grey Wardens.
No disagreement on the first paragraph. Medieval times probably weren't brown and red, true. I'm not really talking about the art style though. As far as I recall I don't think any of DAO's renegade acts screamed immaturity. Shepard starching the reporter in ME1 is a good example of perhaps catering to immaturity, but I don't remember any in DAO. Out of all the squad mates in DAO the only character I could realistically see acting up if you kill a peasant is Sera.
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Post by luketrevelyan on Jul 15, 2024 18:09:41 GMT
Hmm, now this sounds interesting...a little worried about what happens to the other companion Dragon Age @dragonageComplex choices will affect your relationship with each member of The Veilguard - and their fate. For example, be careful who you bring with you to stop the ritual! ❤️🩹 x.com/dragonage/status/1812911363070607476
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Post by fistoffiori on Jul 15, 2024 18:09:43 GMT
"Complex choices will affect your relationship with each member of The Veilguard - and their fate. For example, be careful who you bring with you to stop the ritual! ❤️🩹" x.com/dragonage/status/1812911363070607476Oh nooo it has consequences beyond adding approval of the person who joins you?
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Post by jennica on Jul 15, 2024 18:32:29 GMT
"Complex choices will affect your relationship with each member of The Veilguard - and their fate. For example, be careful who you bring with you to stop the ritual! ❤️🩹" x.com/dragonage/status/1812911363070607476Oh nooo it has consequences beyond adding approval of the person who joins you? There is a screenshot of Harding where she has bruises and stitched wound, so maybe if you bring a companion with you, they get seriously wounded?
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Post by smilesja on Jul 15, 2024 18:37:17 GMT
NOOOO NOT MY HARDING! I'LL BRING HER WITH ME ALL THE TIME!
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Post by lk13 on Jul 15, 2024 18:43:19 GMT
NOOOO NOT MY HARDING! I'LL BRING HER WITH ME ALL THE TIME! What if it happens if you do bring her with you too many times?
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Post by colfoley on Jul 15, 2024 18:56:06 GMT
Well that has interesting implications.
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Post by Gileadan on Jul 15, 2024 18:56:23 GMT
How is "bring companion A or companion B" a complex choice? Is it based on available data and common sense or just guessing what the worse alternative is between facing a horde of demons alone or walking up to the guy who might turn you to stone with a blink?
EDIT: it does say that "Neve will follow you into great danger". Then again - does that mean you show that you trust her or that you consider her expendable?
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Post by Hrungr on Jul 15, 2024 19:01:13 GMT
Game Informer @gameinformer"These are the most fully realized complex companions we've ever crafted." For our latest Dragon Age: The Veilguard feature, we spoke to BioWare about its design philosophy for companions in the game. Here's what we learned: bit.ly/3zKp1Kg
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Post by Ice-Quinn on Jul 15, 2024 19:04:32 GMT
“Be careful with who you bring…” - shites, now I’m scared! Wonder if that companion gets injured and unavailable for the first couple missions (a la Virmire survivor in ME3). Or is it something like, this is how Harding gets her “unexpected” magical abilities, then what happens if you bring Neve? So many possibilities! :screams:
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Jul 15, 2024 19:23:09 GMT
Well that has interesting implications. Indeed i tcoul dlea dt osom eintreestin gstories and playthroughs.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Jul 15, 2024 19:23:51 GMT
NOOOO NOT MY HARDING! I'LL BRING HER WITH ME ALL THE TIME! You'll need to learn som ehealing magic then.
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Post by Reznore on Jul 15, 2024 19:30:39 GMT
I imagine Varric gets killed by the interruption of the ritual, and if you take Harding she's gonna feel responsible.
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Post by azarhal on Jul 15, 2024 19:35:00 GMT
“Be careful with who you bring…” - shites, now I’m scared! Wonder if that companion gets injured and unavailable for the first couple missions (a la Virmire survivor in ME3). Or is it something like, this is how Harding gets her “unexpected” magical abilities, then what happens if you bring Neve? So many possibilities! :screams: We might have some companions who take after Sebille in Divinity Original Sin 2 or after Merrill in DA2 (there is one quest where she doesn't catch we are lying and blow our party cover).
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Post by sloth on Jul 15, 2024 19:37:00 GMT
"Complex choices will affect your relationship with each member of The Veilguard - and their fate. For example, be careful who you bring with you to stop the ritual! ❤️🩹" x.com/dragonage/status/1812911363070607476Oh nooo it has consequences beyond adding approval of the person who joins you? There is a screenshot of Harding where she has bruises and stitched wound, so maybe if you bring a companion with you, they get seriously wounded?
or maybe is the other way around? who you leave behind to fight the demons get injured and, also by the look on Harding face, is pissed at you?
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Post by Ice-Quinn on Jul 15, 2024 19:41:47 GMT
I imagine Varric gets killed by the interruption of the ritual, and if you take Harding she's gonna feel responsible. I’m telling you right now, that stupid elf touches a hair on Varric’s head and/or chest, he’s done. I will make him suffer.
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Post by luketrevelyan on Jul 15, 2024 19:42:08 GMT
This reminds me of what Corinne Busch said in an IGN article a month ago: Asked whether The Veilguard will feature permadeath, she teases, “I don't want to get into spoilers but you just might [lose some characters]. Now in what we saw there, obviously no one died. In a situation like that they can get injured, they can influence how they think about you. If they're ready to hit the field with you, it does get more dangerous. We might lose some people along the way.”www.ign.com/articles/dragon-age-the-veilguard-the-first-preview
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Post by jennica on Jul 15, 2024 19:46:09 GMT
I imagine Varric gets killed by the interruption of the ritual, and if you take Harding she's gonna feel responsible. He doesn't even need to get killed for her to feel responsible. Maybe he is seriously injured and/or trapped in the Fade with Solas.
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Post by Ice-Quinn on Jul 15, 2024 19:52:18 GMT
This is messed up. I'm going into this knowing I'll be emotionally manipulated, I'm going to get attached to characters (like my boo boo Varric!), only to have them taken away from me. And I'm *still* looking forward to playing this mf'n game. What TF is wrong with me (us)? Texting my therapist right now.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jul 15, 2024 20:09:31 GMT
Eh, maybe it’s a good thing so far I don’t really care or like most of the cast of companions.
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Post by The Pluto Lounge on Jul 15, 2024 20:23:44 GMT
"When I open the ability wheel, I almost feel like we're huddling up."
They sure know how to romanticize, don't they.
It seems they are taking inspiration from the last mission of ME2? You need to grasp the situation and your team members for the best outcome in given situations, when picking your party members. That sounds dope.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Jul 15, 2024 20:43:04 GMT
This is messed up. I'm going into this knowing I'll be emotionally manipulated, I'm going to get attached to characters (like my boo boo Varric!), only to have them taken away from me. And I'm *still* looking forward to playing this mf'n game. What TF is wrong with me (us)? Texting my therapist right now. T obe fair you have to go int oever yBiowae rgame thinking tha tbecaus ei twill happen. I don't like the idea of Varri cbeing hurt o rkilled either he was like a little brothe rt obot hHawke and the Inquisitor .No tto mention he's pretty dedal ywit hthat Bianca at his disposal .Looking forward t ousing him again in m ynext playthrough.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Jul 15, 2024 20:45:13 GMT
I imagine Varric gets killed by the interruption of the ritual, and if you take Harding she's gonna feel responsible. I’m telling you right now, that stupid elf touches a hair on Varric’s head and/or chest, he’s done. I will make him suffer. Hang him up by his ears that would no doubt be painful.
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Post by Ice-Quinn on Jul 15, 2024 21:03:49 GMT
I’m telling you right now, that stupid elf touches a hair on Varric’s head and/or chest, he’s done. I will make him suffer. Hang him up by his ears that would no doubt be painful. More like cut off his balls and wear them as earrings
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