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Post by githcheater on Jun 28, 2022 1:26:53 GMT
If the BioWare Gear Store gets enough $75 dollar donations, DAD as well as the DAI musical will release in 2022.
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Post by Kabraxal on Jun 28, 2022 3:59:33 GMT
Given that the quality looks fairly high, 75 ain’t too bad.
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Post by Gileadan on Jun 28, 2022 4:39:05 GMT
75 USD for an 8 years too late collectible? Wow. Anyone remember the high quality gear that came with the DAI Collector's Edition? This looks just like it. At least back then this kind of stuff came with a game. "Due to differences between monitor displays, your product may vary from the images shown." Heh. Yeah, I'm sure it may.
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Post by necrowaif on Jun 28, 2022 5:10:39 GMT
Given that the quality looks fairly high, 75 ain’t too bad. My comment was more about the notion of spending $75 US - nearly $100 in Canadian currency - on some coins in this economy.
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Post by colfoley on Jun 28, 2022 5:40:32 GMT
I'm more with necro on this one a coin set...if you are into collecting that sort of thing...might be worth the expense no matter how 'late' it is, but the moneytary price of it may cause some hesitation given...everything going on or the available resources of the perspective buyers.
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Post by fairdragon on Jun 28, 2022 8:39:45 GMT
Your choice decides the fate of an entire faction and the future of Thedas I hope this is a spoiler and more worked out than the mage templer choice.
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Post by Heimdall on Jun 28, 2022 10:16:28 GMT
Some things are for Collectors with money to burn
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Post by QuizzyBunny on Jun 28, 2022 10:51:15 GMT
Some things are for Collectors with money to burn Did you say collectors?
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Post by Sartoz on Jun 28, 2022 12:12:06 GMT
Your choice decides the fate of an entire faction and the future of Thedas I hope this is a spoiler and more worked out than the mage templer choice. Your choice decides the fate of an entire faction and the future of Thedas I hope this is a spoiler and more worked out than the mage templer choice.
Oh yeah... the mage templar war.
An example of superior marketing by Bio. In game? ... superior crap. Why the number of combatants that I saw was less than platoon size. Yep, a real war it was. so much so, that every time I passed by after the first encounter I heard the war cries but no one to be seen.
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Post by Buckeldemon on Jun 28, 2022 12:34:24 GMT
I hope this is a spoiler and more worked out than the mage templer choice.
Oh yeah... the mage templar war.
An example of superior marketing by Bio. In game? ... superior crap. Why the number of combatants that I saw was less than platoon size. Yep, a real war it was. so much so, that every time I passed by after the first encounter I heard the war cries but no one to be seen.
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Post by Gileadan on Jun 28, 2022 13:57:58 GMT
Oh yeah... the mage templar war.
An example of superior marketing by Bio. In game? ... superior crap. Why the number of combatants that I saw was less than platoon size. Yep, a real war it was. so much so, that every time I passed by after the first encounter I heard the war cries but no one to be seen.
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It was less the size/number of combattants for me, but how it was treated in the story. Lotta buildup, and then DAI breaks it down to "choose one as your mutually exclusive reinforcement, note that only one option gives you a stack of background info on the main antagonist of the game while the other has no equivalent to that". "...which you'll only notice if you talk to someone who picked the other guys... after you finished the game. Wanna play again?"
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Post by Buckeldemon on Jun 28, 2022 15:14:24 GMT
It was less the size/number of combattants for me, but how it was treated in the story. Lotta buildup, and then DAI breaks it down to "choose one as your mutually exclusive reinforcement, note that only one option gives you a stack of background info on the main antagonist of the game while the other has no equivalent to that". "...which you'll only notice if you talk to someone who picked the other guys... after you finished the game. Wanna play again?" Only if I get a stack of all equipment schematics and all the lyrium smuggler knife nuts as well as 80% of the bears in the Hinterlands drop dead immediately as a new game+ bonus. Also, the timer in CotJ shall be disabled.
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Post by smilesja on Jun 28, 2022 16:07:58 GMT
Some things are for Collectors with money to burn Did you say collectors?
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Post by Hrungr on Jun 28, 2022 20:07:10 GMT
elle tchi @elenatchii refering to a character at work as "my blorbo" as one does
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Post by Hrungr on Jun 28, 2022 20:08:24 GMT
Mark Darrah @biomarkdarrah Let's go get our Dalish on...
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Post by colfoley on Jun 28, 2022 21:44:39 GMT
elle tchi @elenatchiirefering to a character at work as "my blorbo" as one does what's a blorbo?
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Post by necrowaif on Jun 28, 2022 22:11:59 GMT
elle tchi @elenatchiirefering to a character at work as "my blorbo" as one does what's a blorbo? Assuming that it’s not just a nonsense word Elle made up, it’s a Tumblr meme. knowyourmeme.com/memes/blorbo-from-my-showsIt’s kind of like “Shaka, when the walls fell.”
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Post by Kabraxal on Jun 28, 2022 23:27:23 GMT
Given that the quality looks fairly high, 75 ain’t too bad. My comment was more about the notion of spending $75 US - nearly $100 in Canadian currency - on some coins in this economy. For a lot of people, even if these were 20$ they would not be worth it. They need every penny for rent, gas, and food. As somewhat of a collector, the perceived quality does seem to match the price tag. The only coins or pins I’ve seen with better quality were from Bungie for Destiny 2. And those were a bit more expensive IIRC. Hard to say since the “end price” was dependent on in game accomplishments. So a lot of time and some money were needed for those.
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Post by Hrungr on Jun 29, 2022 5:21:42 GMT
An awesome DA fan put in a ton of work to transcribe Mark Darrah's Summer Games Fest stream. Quite a few tidbits in this one - enjoy!
[prior to the show beginning] "I think the chance of us getting Dragon Age: Dreadwolf news is basically zero because it doesn't make sense to me that you would announce the name so close to the event if you were gonna show something. I think there's probably a 5% chance that we get BioWare news, but it probably won't be Dreadwolf news if that happens. But, you know, 5% chance. And if it is something it would be, either, they finally managed to decide to do a Dragon Age remaster or something to do with SW:TOR or for some reason EA has decided they need to talk about Mass Effect. Hopefully not that third thing because it's a loooot early to be talking about Mass Effect. But if we get something that would be my guess. But I honestly think we're not gonna get BioWare news. So maybe we'll all be surprised." [nb this event has obviously now passed obviously]
[answering various questions and comments from the side-chat] "I don't mind 'Dreadwolf' - question about what do I think, what would I have called Dragon Age [4]. I mean we were starting naming discussions before I left. I think Dreadwolf was on the list, it's, there's nothing wrong with it as a name. I think that the franchise should definitely put 'Dragon Age 2' in the past and stick to subtitles. At one point I was actually pushing for calling it 'Dragon Age' with no subtitle. I got talked out of that. I think probably that was the right call. But I think, yeah, Dreadwolf is fine. You want something that's short and say-able, so things like 'Minrathous Nights', it just gets too cumbersome and long, it becomes awkward. I do think there is something to be said for a made up word. ‘Skyrim’, or ‘Dreadwolf’, or that sort of thing, because it lets you dominate the search. Whereas if you are 'Inquisition' or 'Oblivion' or those sorts of things, you can kinda get lost in the Googles, at least at certain points in your campaign."
"My bet is that we'll see Dreadwolf at the The Game Awards [this is in December]. That was actually my assumption before they announced the name, now it's even, now I'm even more confident in that."
"Yeah I mean, you have a wolf and a dragon in the name, that's a bit confusing, that's fair".
"I don't have a problem with the font. I think that we'll probably see some refinement on the word form before it launches. Yeah, we'll see."
"I don't know if the Spider With Hands is gonna be in Dreadwolf or not. I mean, I would be, I would hope they wouldn't just toss away an asset they have.”
"I mean because there's more Tevinter stuff in Dreadwolf, I imagine that they're gonna be able to turn the magic level up quite a bit, which lets them do a lot more experimentation with creature design."
“Definitely I feel like the Dragon Age team has heard the, 'please stop making us kill wolves, it's making us sad', so I don't know/think there's gonna be a lot of just, animals, as enemy factions in Dreadwolf. Except spiders."
“I feel like the BioWare games have always been undermarketed. I remember when Mass 1 was coming out, that was around the first Assassin’s Creed. We were going out to dinner with Microsoft I think and I could see a television over someone’s shoulder and in the time we were at dinner I think I saw fifteen Assassin’s Creed TV ads and Mass Effect got zero. So I do think there's always been, BioWare's always been undermarketed, not just by EA but just in general, I think there has been a tendency to under-market BioWare games. I think Cyberpunk put the money behind the game and it showed, from a marketing perspective."
"I mean the writing team tends to shy away from going back to followers, especially ones that have a lot of quantum. Anyone that was a romance option inherently has a fair bit of quantum. They do re-occur, you've got Varric twice and you’ve got Isabela twice, like, you get people coming back, but Dragon Age tends to shy away from that just because it just puts a lot of extra work that nobody sees, because you just see what matches your quantum state, and all the other work is basically a waste. Quantum just means that there are a lot of different potential states for the character."
"Everyone in Dragon Age 2 except for Varric and Aveline is very quantum."
"Dragon Age 4 was marketed in 2018 because EA needed something - well, two reasons. One, EA wanted something at the The Game Awards and didn't have anything else and two, by putting it there you also made it way less likely that the game was gonna get cancelled. So. There was some politics on both sides of that one."
"I don't think Obsidian would be the right partner for a Dragon Age remake even though, you know, they have a long track record. But I do think that, you know, someone that would be willing to spend the money, would probably do a better job than EA, who would [inaudible] remake".
"Yes the progression in Inquisition multiplayer was bad unfortunately. I've been fighting for co-op campaign, campaign co-op in Dragon Age for a while. In Inquisition it was a huge fight with EA because they just didn't understand why anyone would do it because they were all competitive sports game players and on Dragon Age 4, it was, one of the problems was getting the writers on board. But there was also the whole - we'll get to it when we talk about Anthem [in an upcoming vid] - but there was the whole 'everything should be a live service' stuff going on within EA at the same time as well. I do think campaign co-op, if you commit, could be amazing."
"I suspect that multiplayer will be purged completely from Dragon Age 4. That's my guess."
"The next Mass Effect is really early [in production] so."
"[quoting someone] ‘Mass 5 isn't releasing next year according to Jeff Grubb'. No. No it's not.”
"Yeah, I think he [Jeff] may be right about Dragon Age 4 next year. I think they're probably aiming for Christmas next year."
"There's a reasonable chance that Starfield doesn't come out in the same year as Dragon Age 4."
“I don’t think there’s an EA day. I don’t think so. I think EA’s plans is to spread their stuff across the year, I think they realized that too much stuff was being pushed out, they didn’t have enough to show, so they’re not doing, so EA Play isn’t happening this year and they’re just gonna show things as it comes out. So I expect to get BioWare at The Game Awards. Probably just Dragon Age. Probably nothing for Mass Effect this year. That would be my guess.”
“Pretty sure they’ll be at The Game Awards. Pretty sure that Dreadwolf will be at The Game Awards because, that would fit, that would make sense with announce the name now in June, six months to get a trailer together, get some gameplay together and show. If they are on track for next Fall, like, November next year, that would also make sense. I mean, they could delay and wait for next summer, which would be more in line with the shorter marketing cycles that games have been moving towards. But I think because it got announced already in 2018, you kinda don’t get to play that game, you kind of have to show early because you’ve already started. Yeah, I mean, the devs care about DA Day. The problem with DA Day versus N7 day, you’ll get something on N7 Day but it probably won’t be anything related to Mass 5, because it’s just too early. You might get something else. The problem with DA Day is it’s too close to The Game Awards, they’re usually only a few days apart, so you either need two assets or it’s, it’s too bad, if The Game Awards were actually a little bit earlier, you’d be able to piggyback them a little bit better.”
"The Game Awards are usually early December, but usually the 8th or 9th as opposed to the 4th. Yeah, that sort’ve thing, the short stories, for DA Day, is more what I would expect to get just because it’s a more community-focused thing, maybe, I mean that would also be a place for something else if, you know, if they’re gonna have a TV show or a new novel or something that would be the place to announce it as well probably. There was a bunch of TV announcements at Summer Game Fest, so maybe do that at The Game Awards as well.”
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Post by Fredward on Jun 29, 2022 7:07:00 GMT
For some reason I was not expecting something as dubious as "committed campaign co-op" coming from Bioware's side. The more you learn I guess. Dodged a bullet though.
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Post by ClarkKent on Jun 29, 2022 7:22:49 GMT
DAI did suffer from having too much going on in my view. The Mage-Templar war had been built up steadily in the last two games and in the end it had to play second fiddle to the Wardens doing weird shit, the Orlesian Civil War and all the Rift/COrypheus plot threads.
It's actually what I fear the most with DAD. That they'll take a concept as great the Qun-Tevinter war and then force it to contend with a bunch of different plot points that could arguably have their own major focus like the Elf rebellion and the Wardens again doing weird shit.
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Post by AlleluiaElizabeth on Jun 29, 2022 8:02:59 GMT
For some reason I was not expecting something as dubious as "committed campaign co-op" coming from Bioware's side. The more you learn I guess. Dodged a bullet though. Yeah no offense to Mark, but no thanks. Even tho it works in games like Divinity, wouldn’t it mean that in single player mode you’d *have* to have the other potential pc (who is an npc in single player) in your party all the time? Otherwise, they’d have to either write it so that the other npc is never acknowledged in scenes even in 2 player mode, or they’d have to write two different sets of scenes for each cutscene that trigger depending on if your other pc is present. And likely dialogue would get tricky too since you’d want both players to have dialogue choices in 2P, but would just what? Go with a default response for the 2nd guy in 1P? Wow that seems complicated. On another note there, BioWare can feel free to jettison that spider with hands asset. Preferably into the sun. We won’t mind.
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Post by Absafraginlootly on Jun 29, 2022 9:14:08 GMT
I don't know, Baldur's gate had a multiplayer coop setting (ditto biowares other early games). You can play the same plot as single player with companions or as multiplayer with other players, or mp with both if you don't have a full party of players. My Dad and I are enjoying playing that way right now alongside Imoen, Branwen, Dynaheir, and Minsc. Larian seems to be going for the same thing in Baldur's gate 3, which we are looking forward too. This is the only type of mp I am interested in. When they announced Anthem i had hoped it would be the old style co-op campaign with new and improved SWTOR style group conversations that let more than one player participate in the same convo (As opposed to story and talking to people being segregated to sp sections). For some reason I was not expecting something as dubious as "committed campaign co-op" coming from Bioware's side. The more you learn I guess. Dodged a bullet though. Yeah no offense to Mark, but no thanks. Even tho it works in games like Divinity, wouldn’t it mean that in single player mode you’d *have* to have the other potential pc (who is an npc in single player) in your party all the time? Otherwise, they’d have to either write it so that the other npc is never acknowledged in scenes even in 2 player mode, or they’d have to write two different sets of scenes for each cutscene that trigger depending on if your other pc is present. And likely dialogue would get tricky too since you’d want both players to have dialogue choices in 2P, but would just what? Go with a default response for the 2nd guy in 1P? Wow that seems complicated. On another note there, BioWare can feel free to jettison that spider with hands asset. Preferably into the sun. We won’t mind. Why would i want to play my multiplayer save/campaign without the people I've been playing with? Why wouldn't i just start a seperate single player save/campaign to play with on my own? I mean in bgee you could continue a mp game as a sp game if you were the host - whom has the save stored on their device and assigns which characters are controlled by which players in the lobby, so could just assign them all to themselves and play alone if they wanted. But again, why would you? Or is this a playing with randoms from a group finder related thing? Those are mostly used for dungeons/special locations in mmos and for non story coops aren't they? I don't think they'd be much use for a story-campaign-with-optional-mp game. You'd wanna play with the same people, ones who you could contact to arrange a time. My perspective is probably skewed on the matter though, even when playing mmos i only play with people i know in real life at scheduled times. I'm not interested in getting online and playing with a different set of random strangers every week, I'd rather play a Singleplayer game for 'play whenever i feel like it' purposes. I don't have to worry about a stranger sucking at teamwork that way.
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Post by colfoley on Jun 29, 2022 10:33:31 GMT
I don't know, Baldur's gate had a multiplayer coop setting (ditto biowares other early games). You can play the same plot as single player with companions or as multiplayer with other players, or mp with both if you don't have a full party of players. My Dad and I are enjoying playing that way right now alongside Imoen, Branwen, Dynaheir, and Minsc. Larian seems to be going for the same thing in Baldur's gate 3, which we are looking forward too. This is the only type of mp I am interested in. When they announced Anthem i had hoped it would be the old style co-op campaign with new and improved SWTOR style group conversations that let more than one player participate in the same convo (As opposed to story and talking to people being segregated to sp sections). Yeah no offense to Mark, but no thanks. Even tho it works in games like Divinity, wouldn’t it mean that in single player mode you’d *have* to have the other potential pc (who is an npc in single player) in your party all the time? Otherwise, they’d have to either write it so that the other npc is never acknowledged in scenes even in 2 player mode, or they’d have to write two different sets of scenes for each cutscene that trigger depending on if your other pc is present. And likely dialogue would get tricky too since you’d want both players to have dialogue choices in 2P, but would just what? Go with a default response for the 2nd guy in 1P? Wow that seems complicated. On another note there, BioWare can feel free to jettison that spider with hands asset. Preferably into the sun. We won’t mind. Why would i want to play my multiplayer save/campaign without the people I've been playing with? Why wouldn't i just start a seperate single player save/campaign to play with on my own? I mean in bgee you could continue a mp game as a sp game if you were the host - whom has the save stored on their device and assigns which characters are controlled by which players in the lobby, so could just assign them all to themselves and play alone if they wanted. But again, why would you? Or is this a playing with randoms from a group finder related thing? Those are mostly used for dungeons/special locations in mmos and for non story coops aren't they? I don't think they'd be much use for a story-campaign-with-optional-mp game. You'd wanna play with the same people, ones who you could contact to arrange a time. My perspective is probably skewed on the matter though, even when playing mmos i only play with people i know in real life at scheduled times. I'm not interested in getting online and playing with a different set of random strangers every week, I'd rather play a Singleplayer game for 'play whenever i feel like it' purposes. I don't have to worry about a stranger sucking at teamwork that way. That is exactly how I would've had it set up depending on the option and how they implemented it of course in this now purely theoretical sense. While I can certainly understand the 'no friends argument' which indeed would be my greatest limiting factor in taking advantage of the system...on the other hand really why not? I have often salivated being able to play BioWare games with my friends or sig others and having that Ghost Recon experience in like Dragon Age or Mass Effect. Of course there are other issues here that could crop up but...in this purely theoretical sense ...and everything else was equal...why not?
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Post by Sartoz on Jun 29, 2022 12:34:41 GMT
On Mark Darrah's comments
1- Magic in Tevinter So, more magic is to be expercted. Good. I play as a Mage first and Archer as a second option. In DA:I I tried the sword. What crap! I did the swing thing and only hit air. Oh, how I missed tha Auto-Attack in DA2.
Not sure I'd like more pyrotechnics.
2-Quantum There you go. I learned something new. Game characters have physics variables. Hm... it normally applies to a physical system such as the state of an electron (ie: spin) or energy levels. Physics science can now apply it to human individuals.... such as those affected by DID (Dissociative Identity Disorder). Amazing isn't it?
3- DA:I Multiplayer I knew it! Said it was crap from the start. Mark confirmed it. I was dinged for being negative. Also confirmed is that EA wants their games to be "live service". Hopefully, DA:DW will change their mind.
4- DA:DW launch date. Many of us hit the nail on the head ... 4th Q 2023.
4- DA, N7, GA days Too many. I can't be bothered.
Looking forward to his co-op game comments for Anthem. I expect a revelation.
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