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Post by andy_3_913 on Apr 25, 2019 11:51:31 GMT
MEA got some problems, defauts, glitches, bugs, crashed, and require a powerfull PC, and got less qualities than previous mass effect... but is it technically a bad game? not really. the story is not worse than ME trilogy (and more captivating than the tri-chromatic prophety, aka the evil-rainbow) yes, they did crap with their frostbite graphic engine because too greedy to get the next unreal engine, yes humans and asaris got horrific faces that will give PTSD to all asaris lover (but really, who want to date thoose blue-skin futa? ), humans armor looks more like textile suit than rela armor (but i guess it's because they are supposed to explore and not to beat the crap out of some reapers) and turians endured forced-diets. but the maps are kinda interessing, the jet-pack add few possibilities, kert's weapons are kinda cool, vetra is a good waifu, reliquants are very cool, drax is like the cool uncle you wish you had, you got planets that you can go on with a vehicle like you did in ME1, the ressources-farm thing, despite first annoyed me, make sense in fact (due to the fact that you are relying on what your colonies can farm, you don't have any state to give you any dotation, you got to get things done by yourself) and some questions of the lore are captivating enough so that you wonder what will be the answer (unfortunately, some answers are missing in my opinion, i would like to know more about the andromeda lore, the kerts's origin, the reliquants's origin, more details about the dark-tentacles formation etc...) and in the MP, despite the crap with the ton of variation of each weapon (endless loot-nightmare) the maps are interessing, because it's a real 3D environment, not like ME3MP maps which are too flat (and don't exploit enough the notion of height). wich MEA MP, you really use and care about your environment, spawnpoints seem a bit less obvious, and it's harder to exploit bugs from ennemy's behaviour. (also, the lesser number of ennemies who can sync you make it less frustrating) add the invididual power-cooldown on top of that, and you got a much more complex gameplay (where you can use the environment, the jet-pack jumps, the shut-down punches, play with the rythme of your powers, shoot while under-cover, etc...) also, the ammoboxes are more reliable and more explicit (cuz ME3MP's ammoboxes where pure crap) Can't really comment on the SP, because I put very little time into it, but I put a few hours into the MP and thought it was bollox, Especially the jet packs.
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Post by chonma on Apr 25, 2019 12:04:48 GMT
(but really, who want to date thoose blue-skin futa? ) *raises hand*
Even if we ignore the hearsay about their genitalia(we really shouldn't, since they are quite obviously human women with tentacle hair and sans ears and nothing ever leads you to believe they don't have woman parts... down there as well(other than some fanfics out there, which should be taken with a shovel of salt in the first place)), they are still pretty damn hot and I for one wouldn't be opposed to having a piece of that.
And considering they go for turians, krogan and batarian, I mean, really... how high can their standards be anyway?  Might be my only chance at loosing virginity 
So yeah, I'm down for it.
This... seems like heavily biased opinion and I'm being more than little generous here. For pretty much any of your arguments, I could find a counterargument. But then again, why bother? It seems obvious you don't like ME3MP and you know what? It's fine!
What's not fine is bunch of bullshit subjective opinions presented as fact. I'm sure you can do better. If you don't care about us, who like(d) the game we discuss here, then at least think about yourself, because you're doing yourself no favour by this kind of behavior.
for the asari part, i pretend that based on -first: when , in ME1, it's said that asaris are able to adapt to a wide range of situation and species regarding reproduction -second: an commercial-pub-E-mail that shepard recieve during ME2, comercial about things to boost your manhood, and in this comercial, you got like a women saying that she's leaving her guy for an asari because she got what it takes or something like that (and the last thing in this comercial is that they precise that they don't sell krogan's genital) if you really need, i can still re-launch ME2 and go search in shepard's Email (hoping i haven't erased them, cuz doesn't want to do an entire run just to find an email to show what made me make my deductions) [and about the tentacle, well, if you look japan, you will learn that female-entities + tentacle doesn't end the way you expect ] about the MP, i do not hate ME3MP (if i hated ME3MP, would i have played hundreds and hundreds of hours? would i still play it times to times?) , it has it's qualities (and a better diversity of characters + a better way of leveling up characters), but it also has it's flaws. if you play ME3MP and MEAMP, you will see that the MEAMP use more the notion of height than ME3MP does for exemple, and we cannot deny that the jetpack + the individual cooldown give some new possibilities. is MEAMP better than ME3MP? no, but it's still a proper MP, and some things where improvved (a single and random exemple: the amount of time to hack a device in the "devices" objective, has been decreased to about 5s, when it was 11 in ME3, wich, allow you to solo with less frustration for exemple). so, what i say basically is just that, despite not being as well made as you can expect from an ME, MEA is still a correct game, and, if you got an plateform adapted to that (an PS4/xbox-one, or an stronk PC) and cash to spend, MEA isn't a bad experience (and i honestly think that if the game wasn't labbeled as an mass effect and have different races so that no one can make a link beetween it and mass effect, it would be considered as a decent game by a lot of people)
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Post by chonma on Apr 25, 2019 12:07:34 GMT
Can't really comment on the SP, because I put very little time into it, but I put a few hours into the MP and thought it was bollox, Especially the jet packs. bollox?
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Post by andy_3_913 on Apr 25, 2019 13:53:57 GMT
Can't really comment on the SP, because I put very little time into it, but I put a few hours into the MP and thought it was bollox, Especially the jet packs. bollox? Testicles 
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Post by chonma on Apr 25, 2019 15:12:26 GMT
Testicles oh, ok.
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Don't forget to turn the sound on. NSFL.
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Post by Tonymac on Apr 26, 2019 13:54:42 GMT
Andromeda is as much of a wet and rancid dogfart as Anthem is. In fact, they are both as bad as ME3 (SP).
It pains me to know that I will never again open a new Mass Relay and travel to undiscovered systems filled with dozens of worlds. I will never again get to stand on the Citadel with Ashley and Liara and Garrus and Wrex and go handle some "Spectre business" or go off on some crazy and fun trip for the Systems Alliance. I will never again find some world with a fantastic view of the cosmos with moons and red and blue stars, and hear the crunch of alien soil through my suit. To use one of my favorite quotes,"I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhäuser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain."
The MEU that I knew and loved was intentionally destroyed and burned down in a multi-colored firestorm. When BioWare asks where has the Magic gone, I will point out to them the moment that they burned it down and flipped off their fans.
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Post by chonma on Apr 26, 2019 17:46:52 GMT
Andromeda is as much of a wet and rancid dogfart as Anthem is. In fact, they are both as bad as ME3 (SP). It pains me to know that I will never again open a new Mass Relay and travel to undiscovered systems filled with dozens of worlds. I will never again get to stand on the Citadel with Ashley and Liara and Garrus and Wrex and go handle some "Spectre business" or go off on some crazy and fun trip for the Systems Alliance. I will never again find some world with a fantastic view of the cosmos with moons and red and blue stars, and hear the crunch of alien soil through my suit. To use one of my favorite quotes,"I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhäuser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain." The MEU that I knew and loved was intentionally destroyed and burned down in a multi-colored firestorm. When BioWare asks where has the Magic gone, I will point out to them the moment that they burned it down and flipped off their fans. but what precisely did you find bad in MEA? (exept the glitches and technicall issues that we all know about) and do you really regret ashley? and for the quote, is it from a replicant in blade-runner?
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Post by Tonymac on Apr 26, 2019 18:28:26 GMT
but what precisely did you find bad in MEA? (exept the glitches and technicall issues that we all know about) and do you really regret ashley? and for the quote, is it from a replicant in blade-runner? In MEA Shepard replacement (Ryder) felt like a snot nosed punk. There were huge issues of really dumb writing - like there is never a time when people are scuba diving and have to use only one mouth piece (or space helmet). If your Omni tool can 3D print you a new visor, then obviously you should not use that feature and simply transfer your SAM and die.
Have a problem with a somewhat not as habitable planet as you like? Lucky for you there is an Alien artifact that makes it less habitable - simply solve the conveniently placed Sudoku puzzle and Presto, it umm - yeah - space majic.
If the bad guys look a lot like the Collectors, that simply HAS to be coincidence - it could not possibly be the fact that management is actually that profoundly lacking of skills. Don't even get me started with the SJW nonsense of Jill used to be Jack and you need to hear this line for NO other reason that I want to throw my required SJW quota in your face.
Much like Anthem, the storyline is terribad. I could go on and on, but you get the gist. The more you dig the worse the story(s) gets.
I enjoyed all of the crewmates. I'm not quite so hardcore as to go into the derivations and calculations of the smell and taste of Tali's sweat, but I did like all of the content presented in ME 1 and 2.
Lastly, yes - this is most of Roy Batty's quote from Bladerunner.
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Post by chonma on Apr 26, 2019 19:18:20 GMT
but what precisely did you find bad in MEA? (exept the glitches and technicall issues that we all know about) and do you really regret ashley? and for the quote, is it from a replicant in blade-runner? In MEA Shepard replacement (Ryder) felt like a snot nosed punk. There were huge issues of really dumb writing - like there is never a time when people are scuba diving and have to use only one mouth piece (or space helmet). If your Omni tool can 3D print you a new visor, then obviously you should not use that feature and simply transfer your SAM and die.
Have a problem with a somewhat not as habitable planet as you like? Lucky for you there is an Alien artifact that makes it less habitable - simply solve the conveniently placed Sudoku puzzle and Presto, it umm - yeah - space majic.
If the bad guys look a lot like the Collectors, that simply HAS to be coincidence - it could not possibly be the fact that management is actually that profoundly lacking of skills. Don't even get me started with the SJW nonsense of Jill used to be Jack and you need to hear this line for NO other reason that I want to throw my required SJW quota in your face.
Much like Anthem, the storyline is terribad. I could go on and on, but you get the gist. The more you dig the worse the story(s) gets.
I enjoyed all of the crewmates. I'm not quite so hardcore as to go into the derivations and calculations of the smell and taste of Tali's sweat, but I did like all of the content presented in ME 1 and 2.
Lastly, yes - this is most of Roy Batty's quote from Bladerunner. about the scenario coherence, yes, i agree with the fact that the omni-tool is made too OP (and only for one sequence, when he repair his visor....if they just remooved the sequence, it would have been more logical). about ryder, it's a looser (and i would have prefered if we played ryder's father in fact) about ryder's bro/sis...useless. but about the reliquants tech that magikly turn desert into heaven, that's one of the core elements of the intrigue in my opinion: why this wonderfull tech exist? who created it? who created the reliquants (cuz they are quite advanced machines) what is the origin of thoose machines? about the kerts, theyr physical appearence isn't the best, but their equipment and weapons are in my opinion (but probably because it make me remember the space-pirates from metroid prime trilogy) and i kinda like their very utilitarist+kinda eugenist culture (this way of taking cold decisions, no ethics involved, grabing every biological advancement they can get...). about the SJW quotas, well...it's nothing new, bioware's message has always been on this side (from the beginning, in mass effect, everything related to gender and sexuality has always been pro-liberal. i mean, shepard is famous for having been in the bed with at least half of the living species of the milky way, your pilot's (joker) only GF is EDI (even if i quite understand, cuz EDI's boob-level is over 9000),etc... ) so, it's more something i would say about bioware in general, and not only to a spacific game.
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Post by clips7 on Apr 30, 2019 7:02:46 GMT
but what precisely did you find bad in MEA? (exept the glitches and technicall issues that we all know about) and do you really regret ashley? and for the quote, is it from a replicant in blade-runner?
Yeah...i had a major issue with this. I had a discussion with a member here regarding this, because i too called this "space magic"....i understand this is still a sci-fi adventure and we have to let the writers tell a story, but a human coming into unknown Alien tech and decoding it? No matter how advanced SAM is, at the end of the day it is still based on human tech....no way any human would have been able to decipher such tech (and making entire planets habitable?..lol) when the native aliens that have been there for hundreds of years couldn't decode it or understand it. Its sci-fi, but at least i like the story to be grounded in some form of reality.....now the person i had a discussion with explained that Ryder was "learning" this tech and understanding it each time he cleared a vault or solved those puzzles...a reason why he was able to solve that last puzzle at the end of game (which was still a bit far fetched for me) but again...you just accept the game s trying to tell a story, but for me the overall story and characters was a mediorce experience...the writing in Andromeda felt like this.... 
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Post by chonma on Apr 30, 2019 12:28:52 GMT
Have a problem with a somewhat not as habitable planet as you like? Lucky for you there is an Alien artifact that makes it less habitable - simply solve the conveniently placed Sudoku puzzle and Presto, it umm - yeah - space majic.
Yeah...i had a major issue with this. I had a discussion with a member here regarding this, because i too called this "space magic"....i understand this is still a sci-fi adventure and we have to let the writers tell a story, but a human coming into unknown Alien tech and decoding it? No matter how advanced SAM is, at the end of the day it is still based on human tech....no way any human would have been able to decipher such tech (and making entire planets habitable?..lol) when the native aliens that have been there for hundreds of years couldn't decode it or understand it. Its sci-fi, but at least i like the story to be grounded in some form of reality.....now the person i had a discussion with explained that Ryder was "learning" this tech and understanding it each time he cleared a vault or solved those puzzles...a reason why he was able to solve that last puzzle at the end of game (which was still a bit far fetched for me) but again...you just accept the game s trying to tell a story, but for me the overall story and characters was a mediorce experience...the writing in Andromeda felt like this.... about the decoding thing, on the beginning/first planet discovered, yes, they shouldn't have been able to decode it (unless we learn a fact that explain it, but i ll come back to this on the following parts of this post ) but on the following planets, it's not shocking since we got the occasion to fight reliquants, so, i assume that sam probably got the occasion to do some search on the destroyed units. (and an "strong" AI, with acess on enough processing power can simply do some dumb and almost random tiny test at a great speed and base it's understanding on the result of some billions of tiny tests. (a bit like a brute-force thing when you try to crack a password) ). also, to get back on the first planet thing ---> we know that, before making the initiative, andromeda was observed from long range by the geth, we know that the alliance have put their hands on some geth machines to observe andromeda, but do we know all the details about who learned what in all thoose observations? also, we know that they master some intricate-crystal based technologies (basic concept: two cristal are intricated, if you affect one, the other is also affected no matter the distance and what there's beetween them. ) so, because of that, i cannot affirm that SAM didn't recieved any updapte during the 600 years of travel (cuz we don't know what the milky way did during this time, we don't even know wich colour of the evil rainbow was the true) cuz with intricated crystal, it would be totally possible for the milky way to send udaptes to sam during the 600 years of travel (assuming that an corresponding ME3 ending take place) so, before being entirely sure about if what the game was telling is okay or just a pack of bullshit armored with some scenarium (you know, this incredible material that is widely used by hollywood moovie realisators) i need to know exactly who made the reliquants/where do they come from + i need more datas about the kerts. (because the kerts we saw where just a portion of all the kerts) + i need to know exactly what was learned from the first andromeda observation (what learned the geth? what learned the ones who put their hands on the geth tech? what happened to the milky way during the 600 years? )
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Post by Voluptuous Volus on May 3, 2019 1:25:01 GMT
Should you play mEA?
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Post by Arkhne on May 3, 2019 3:24:55 GMT
Andromeda is as much of a wet and rancid dogfart as Anthem is. In fact, they are both as bad as ME3 (SP). It pains me to know that I will never again open a new Mass Relay and travel to undiscovered systems filled with dozens of worlds. I will never again get to stand on the Citadel with Ashley and Liara and Garrus and Wrex and go handle some "Spectre business" or go off on some crazy and fun trip for the Systems Alliance. I will never again find some world with a fantastic view of the cosmos with moons and red and blue stars, and hear the crunch of alien soil through my suit. To use one of my favorite quotes,"I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhäuser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain."
The MEU that I knew and loved was intentionally destroyed and burned down in a multi-colored firestorm. When BioWare asks where has the Magic gone, I will point out to them the moment that they burned it down and flipped off their fans. This is going to sound completely and utterly insane, but the old Spore (with Galactic Adventures expansion) will scratch that itch far more than ME:A ever will. Trust me, I forced myself to finish ME:A, it really is not as good. If you just want to explore a dynamic Galaxy, Spore is arguably the single best game in existence for that. If you have the expansion, landing on planets and exploring them in person is also possible, as is customizable missions for said personal mode. The only downside is that for many people (myself not included) the genre-skipping that it does is off-putting. The game starts as a 2D Third Person Survival, switches to 3D Third Person ARPG, then to Strategy civ builder (of increasing complexity until your civilization spans the galaxy). This is because it actually follows the "evolution" of your species, you shape every aspect of them before taking them to the stars. This is one of the best games ever made, especially for the story-lite section of gaming (I doesn't really have a story, just goals to accomplish, and then achievements in your galactic sandbox), and the graphics were so astounding for the time, that they still hold up today, and I argue that they are better than Andromeda.
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Post by chonma on May 5, 2019 16:42:17 GMT
never say something you might regret... let's imagine EA read your post and act in consequence.... "buy now our magik toilet bowl for 70€ only!!, and pay the extra-DLC for only 20€ to have some extra excrements in your mouth!"
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Post by Terminator Force on May 7, 2019 18:05:39 GMT
Affirmative. MEA is more drinking friendly with more dmg soak reaction time to slower drinking processing power.
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Post by SalMasRac on May 8, 2019 11:55:58 GMT
MEA is great if you love PAW Siphons
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Post by chonma on May 8, 2019 14:54:11 GMT
MEA is great if you love PAW Siphons
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particle rifle is OP, but there's some cool alternatives also, for exemple: the falcon of MEAMP is quite good (as opposed to ME3MP's one wich lacks firring rate (and also other things, like the sweeper, the piranha, scattershot, rozerad (i hope the soned will be as good), dhan, hesh, etc...
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Post by SalMasRac on May 8, 2019 17:48:09 GMT
MEA is great if you love PAW Siphons
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particle rifle is OP, but there's some cool alternatives also, for exemple: the falcon of MEAMP is quite good (as opposed to ME3MP's one wich lacks firring rate (and also other things, like the sweeper, the piranha, scattershot, rozerad (i hope the soned will be as good), dhan, hesh, etc... They broke the Venom, and the Claymore doesn't exist
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Post by chonma on May 9, 2019 6:33:44 GMT
particle rifle is OP, but there's some cool alternatives also, for exemple: the falcon of MEAMP is quite good (as opposed to ME3MP's one wich lacks firring rate (and also other things, like the sweeper, the piranha, scattershot, rozerad (i hope the soned will be as good), dhan, hesh, etc... They broke the Venom, and the Claymore doesn't exist since i didn't liked the venom that much, for me it's a good deal. and about the claymore, well, you got the ruzad, wich does similar job: a heavy fat krogan shotgun with a ton of brute dmg (but the ruzad got multiple-shot cappacity and is silver instead of gold, so, better).
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Post by yrael on May 9, 2019 9:21:05 GMT
Who is your favourite character in the MET? What is your favourite dialogue from the MET? What is your favourite gun/map/char from ME3MP? I know these questions were rhetorical, but since I actually have answers: Garrus. Probably the prayer Kolyat reads for Shepard on Thane's deathbed. Particularly the line, "Kalahira, this one's heart is pure, but beset by wickedness and contention." Black Widow/White/Huntress, though not combined. Favorite map was actually a pretty hard choice, but I think White is the one I've been the least traumatized by. That was the first map where I ever had to solo a wave on gold, too, so it carries some fond memories. (It's been about three years, but I still remember it vividly: me with my Wraith AIU, geth bombers harassing me all over the map as I ran around frantically... lovely.) Anyway, I took a peek into this thread because I was considering buying Andromeda myself, since... well, why not. I've got nothing better to do except university coursework, and I've just wrapped up ME3SP for the first time in years, so more space adventuring seems fun. It's unfortunate that the multiplayer was so underwhelming, but I'd be willing to give it a try regardless, just to see.
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Post by chonma on May 13, 2019 11:26:41 GMT
Who is your favourite character in the MET? What is your favourite dialogue from the MET? What is your favourite gun/map/char from ME3MP? I know these questions were rhetorical, but since I actually have answers: Garrus. Probably the prayer Kolyat reads for Shepard on Thane's deathbed. Particularly the line, "Kalahira, this one's heart is pure, but beset by wickedness and contention." Black Widow/White/Huntress, though not combined. Favorite map was actually a pretty hard choice, but I think White is the one I've been the least traumatized by. That was the first map where I ever had to solo a wave on gold, too, so it carries some fond memories. (It's been about three years, but I still remember it vividly: me with my Wraith AIU, geth bombers harassing me all over the map as I ran around frantically... lovely.) Anyway, I took a peek into this thread because I was considering buying Andromeda myself, since... well, why not. I've got nothing better to do except university coursework, and I've just wrapped up ME3SP for the first time in years, so more space adventuring seems fun. It's unfortunate that the multiplayer was so underwhelming, but I'd be willing to give it a try regardless, just to see. but before buying, i think you should make sure your PC can handle crash correctly. cuz, well, when playing MEA i got tons, tons and tons of BSOD for a ton of reasons. (on average, i can finish about 40% of my match without crash)
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Post by crashsuit on May 14, 2019 7:17:56 GMT
i think you should make sure your PC can handle crash correctly no computer can handle me |
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Post by chonma on May 14, 2019 11:57:35 GMT
i think you should make sure your PC can handle crash correctly no computer can handle me even this one? 
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