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Post by alanc9 on Feb 5, 2020 23:03:15 GMT
Of course, DAI did better than DA2.
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Post by samhain444 on Feb 5, 2020 23:04:20 GMT
Of course, DAI did better than DA2. But the narrative...
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Post by SirSourpuss on Feb 5, 2020 23:10:50 GMT
Of course, DAI did better than DA2. Are you talking to someone? If you are, you might want to address them directly.
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Post by KaiserShep on Feb 5, 2020 23:35:33 GMT
Of course, DAI did better than DA2. Man, DA2. What a time that was in the forum. Those fools almost convinced me not to buy it. I'm glad I didn't listen.
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Post by samhain444 on Feb 6, 2020 0:47:54 GMT
Of course, DAI did better than DA2. Man, DA2. What a time that was in the forum. Those fools almost convinced me not to buy it. I'm glad I didn't listen. Right?!
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Feb 6, 2020 3:31:10 GMT
Of course, DAI did better than DA2. Man, DA2. What a time that was in the forum. Those fools almost convinced me not to buy it. I'm glad I didn't listen. That reminds me of something
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Post by cloud9 on Mar 5, 2020 13:30:59 GMT
It will quickly became mob/echo chamber/etc. if the person in question is just spewing his vitriol without actually saying anything new or just spamming because. And I think who is in question. Good riddance. I also distinctly remember another individual, a rabid Bioware fanboy, who would go to every thread in every sub-section, and viciously mock, name call and ridicule anyone who said anything even slightly negative, about anything. This person was eventually perma banned after breaking forums rules over and over again. However, this person got massive amounts of thumbs ups for every post for a long time. So let's stop acting like the childish toxicity is only from "haters". Testify!!
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Post by garrusfan1 on Mar 5, 2020 20:27:05 GMT
Of course, DAI did better than DA2. Man, DA2. What a time that was in the forum. Those fools almost convinced me not to buy it. I'm glad I didn't listen. I wasn't on the forum then but I read all those reviews and people whining online about it. Was the game perfect no it wasn't it had alot of problems most of which were technical. Was it fun and a good game hell yes it was. I actually waited to buy it because I was convinced it would be horrible. In reality that game started some new things at bioware that have become more and more common and help with replayability. Most notably was the character's dialouge and possible actions being influenced by past decisions.
For example if you weren't a renegade hawk you couldn't help the anti qunari crowd. Sarcastic hawk was a blast as well. Me3 didn't do this but DAI and MEA took some things from it and it made them even better. I can't count how many times I played that game.
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Post by garrusfan1 on Mar 5, 2020 20:28:56 GMT
I'd just like to add this, from the wikiReading the wiki and the IGN article, it seems increasingly like Bioware neither liked, nor believed, nor wanted Andromeda, saying vaguely that it could get a non direct continuation, in forms that not necessarily pertain to a sequel, not even whether that would even be in video game form. They all seem very vague and non committal, in hindsight.
Edit: Oh, I also like the part in the IGN interview where Mac outright admits he was wrong with the ME3 ending. Admitting you were wrong doesn't make it right, Mac. You have to fix what is wrong, otherwise it doesn't work. And for Andromeda, at least, it didn't.
Well, too late for fixing now, unless they actually remaster the whole thing and create a totally new ending to finish it off. I'll admit, I'd bite the bullet and line up to buy into that. How could I resist? If they created a dragons keep like import then I would buy it too. I have replayed ME1 and ME2 too many times to make eight new playthroughs
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Post by KaiserShep on Mar 5, 2020 20:31:40 GMT
Man, DA2. What a time that was in the forum. Those fools almost convinced me not to buy it. I'm glad I didn't listen. I wasn't on the forum then but I read all those reviews and people whining online about it. Was the game perfect no it wasn't it had alot of problems most of which were technical. Was it fun and a good game hell yes it was. I actually waited to buy it because I was convinced it would be horrible. In reality that game started some new things at bioware that have become more and more common and help with replayability. Most notably was the character's dialouge and possible actions being influenced by past decisions.
For example if you weren't a renegade hawk you couldn't help the anti qunari crowd. Sarcastic hawk was a blast as well. Me3 didn't do this but DAI and MEA took some things from it and it made them even better. I can't count how many times I played that game.
It was also easy to see how a lot of fans felt about it based on various commentary on other social media and the sort and the fanfare around some key characters, like Isabella, Fenris, etc.. Heck, one of the most meme-able characters in the DA franchise is the motherlovin' Arishok, one of my favorite characters in the series, let alone the game. Sarcastic Hawke remains my all-time favorite BioWare protagonist.
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Post by garrusfan1 on Mar 5, 2020 20:36:05 GMT
I wasn't on the forum then but I read all those reviews and people whining online about it. Was the game perfect no it wasn't it had alot of problems most of which were technical. Was it fun and a good game hell yes it was. I actually waited to buy it because I was convinced it would be horrible. In reality that game started some new things at bioware that have become more and more common and help with replayability. Most notably was the character's dialouge and possible actions being influenced by past decisions.
For example if you weren't a renegade hawk you couldn't help the anti qunari crowd. Sarcastic hawk was a blast as well. Me3 didn't do this but DAI and MEA took some things from it and it made them even better. I can't count how many times I played that game.
It was also easy to see how a lot of fans felt about it based on various commentary on other social media and the sort and the fanfare around some key characters, like Isabella, Fenris, etc.. Heck, one of the most meme-able characters in the DA franchise is the motherlovin' Arishok, one of my favorite characters in the series, let alone the game. Sarcastic Hawke remains my all-time favorite BioWare protagonist. Issabela was awesome. Sarcastic hawk is second only to shepard for me.
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Post by Son of Dorn on Mar 5, 2020 20:43:24 GMT
Well, too late for fixing now, unless they actually remaster the whole thing and create a totally new ending to finish it off. I'll admit, I'd bite the bullet and line up to buy into that. How could I resist? If they created a dragons keep like import then I would buy it too. I have replayed ME1 and ME2 too many times to make eight new playthroughs Unless they get rid of the Blue Creep, then I'll give ANY remake a hard pass. Don't wanna have to put up with that nutcase again....😒
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Post by garrusfan1 on Mar 5, 2020 20:56:03 GMT
If they created a dragons keep like import then I would buy it too. I have replayed ME1 and ME2 too many times to make eight new playthroughs Unless they get rid of the Blue Creep, then I'll give ANY remake a hard pass. Don't wanna have to put up with that nutcase again....😒 You are talking about liara?
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Post by Son of Dorn on Mar 5, 2020 20:57:35 GMT
Unless they get rid of the Blue Creep, then I'll give ANY remake a hard pass. Don't wanna have to put up with that nutcase again....😒 You are talking about liara? Yeah, HER. 🤮
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Post by KaiserShep on Mar 5, 2020 21:01:54 GMT
Liara being attached to Shepard's story is one of those immutable laws of the universe. We can fight it like we fight gravity, but gravity ultimately wins.
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Post by Son of Dorn on Mar 5, 2020 21:06:24 GMT
Liara being attached to Shepard's story is one of those immutable laws of the universe. We can fight it like we fight gravity, but gravity ultimately wins. Me old sledgehammer begs to differ...😉
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Mar 5, 2020 21:06:48 GMT
Liara being attached to Shepard's story is one of those immutable laws of the universe. We can fight it like we fight gravity, but gravity ultimately wins. Gravity ultimately wins? *laughs in Dark Energy*
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Post by KaiserShep on Mar 5, 2020 21:12:05 GMT
Liara being attached to Shepard's story is one of those immutable laws of the universe. We can fight it like we fight gravity, but gravity ultimately wins. Gravity ultimately wins? *laughs in Dark Energy* Oh, you may think Dark Energy wins, until it consumes us. It's like Alien vs. Predator. No matter who wins, we lose.
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Post by themikefest on Mar 5, 2020 22:41:37 GMT
Unless they get rid of the Blue Creep, then I'll give ANY remake a hard pass. Don't wanna have to put up with that nutcase again....😒 Ah yes. Getting rid of the t'soni. The only thing she is good for in ME1 is saying Ilos. In a remake, have Shepard find Ilos the Saren way, not have the broker dlc, and since Shepard has the cipher, t'soni wouldn't be needed in ME3. There you go. T'soni is now gone. excellent. Anyways. In a remake she could be just an advisor instead of a squadmate. That could be filled by Shiala. T'soni tells Shepard about the protheans and then mentions Ilos. In ME2, while on Ilium, Shepard see's t'soni who tells Shepard that she believes that someone is following her. Eventually Shepard catches up with the broker. If Shepard has enough power of the voice, he/she convinces the broker to hand over any information about the reapers. If Shepard is lacking in the power of the voice, they fight. Broker is killed. Shepard is able to download all the information he/she can. Shepard hands whatever information to t'soni about the protheans. In ME3, Shepard heads to Mars to find t'soni who says there are plans for something that can stop the reapers. After that, she is sent to Hackett. There was a thread on the old forum asking what people would like to see changed if a remake were to happen, at least when it comes to t'soni. Several people agreed merging Shiala and t'soni into one character would work. There were a number of responses from t'soni fans when I suggested t'soni's background be changed. She use to be a commando for 50-100 years who's primary skill was intelligence. She stopped being a commando because her mother was concerned for her safety. So t'soni wanted to know more about the protheans. So for the last 50 years, she's been studying them. So that would put her at about 156 or 206 years old when Shepard meets her.
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Post by KaiserShep on Mar 6, 2020 4:04:54 GMT
Having a commando-like portion in her background on top of the academic part probably would have been better, especially since that would allow for maybe deserting her mother over disagreement about Saren as being part of her backstory, aside from also reconciling combat prowess beyond simply encountering a few thugs here and there while tomb raiding.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Mar 7, 2020 18:03:50 GMT
Liara being attached to Shepard's story is one of those immutable laws of the universe. We can fight it like we fight gravity, but gravity ultimately wins. I think it largely depends on how yo ufee labout her to oI presonally liked Liara and she was on eof my favourite ME tr0ilogy characters along with Garrus and Tali bu teveryone has their own opinions.
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Post by Son of Dorn on Mar 7, 2020 18:21:01 GMT
Having a commando-like portion in her background on top of the academic part probably would have been better, especially since that would allow for maybe deserting her mother over disagreement about Saren as being part of her backstory, aside from also reconciling combat prowess beyond simply encountering a few thugs here and there while tomb raiding. And making her 100% less of a creep is a given.
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Post by cloud9 on Mar 12, 2020 14:02:59 GMT
The problem as I see it is that a good game is what will lure fans back, it has nothing to do with setting or characters for there isn't a way to point out what flaws they must fix that won't alienate some people. Its the same thing with character design there was all kind of complaining about Miranda and her look in Mass Effect 2 and 3 and how Ashley looked in Mass Effect 3. Now I remember just as many complaints about how "unattractive" female characters looked in Andromeda. There is no way they are going to be able to please all the complaints people have with the games and make a game that still appeals to everyone that liked the game before. That is the one thing I really wish BioWare would learn is that you cannot please everyone all the time and just make the best game you can. Its the same with the budget argument. They can make a good game with a lower budget, they just need to know where to draw the line with development and where to spend their money wisely instead of aiming for the fences with the best tech while trying to do everything. Plan out a game, stick to their budget and don't chase trends is probably what I would suggest if BioWare execs would listen to a nobody like me. Look to make a good solid game and the other things will follow. Its the same type of idea with Fallen Order, they made a good game with faults, but it was a competent game that spread by word of mouth and now it has a projected sales of over ten million copies which is really good considering all the negativity around EA and their Star Wars games. You are oversimplifying things and disregarding a boatload of factors that led to Fallen Order's success. One of those being Vince Zampela, his studio, Respawn, the promise of no MTX and single player only story based Star Wars game, that had no ties to Kathleen Kennedy herself. Unlike Mass Effect and Bioware, Respawn has shown competence, backbone and generally well received games. For Bioware, there has been at least some controversy with every game they've released since Dragon Age 2. Their peak, while being struck with ME2, was still there to the release of ME3 and from there has been a downward trend, ever since. You can see it here and it is even evident by Bioware's game sales. The interest just isn't there anymore. With each new release, the interest generated is less and less. There are many people here that will argue that Andromeda was a great game, that got an unfair treatment. The truth is that people just didn't care for it. And they'll care even less for the next one. Bioware's titles are trending down and there's no other way to interpret it. You need something to lure people back and "new game" isn't it. "New Mass Effect" isn't it. You need to give people a reason. Exactly!!!
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Post by dmc1001 on Mar 23, 2020 14:47:57 GMT
Having a commando-like portion in her background on top of the academic part probably would have been better, especially since that would allow for maybe deserting her mother over disagreement about Saren as being part of her backstory, aside from also reconciling combat prowess beyond simply encountering a few thugs here and there while tomb raiding. And making her 100% less of a creep is a given. For Liara to be so good at combat and also an academic would require she be older. The way she goes after Shep would be more appropriate for a later stage Maiden who uses her sexuality to get her way rather than school girl commando. That would even work better with her becoming the Shadow Broker, which I never bought into in ME2, much less in ME3. A better SB would have been the seemingly dead squadmate from Virmire.
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Post by ahglock on Mar 23, 2020 22:48:19 GMT
And making her 100% less of a creep is a given. For Liara to be so good at combat and also an academic would require she be older. The way she goes after Shep would be more appropriate for a later stage Maiden who uses her sexuality to get her way rather than school girl commando. That would even work better with her becoming the Shadow Broker, which I never bought into in ME2, much less in ME3. A better SB would have been the seemingly dead squadmate from Virmire. She was close to a 100, I think that's long enough to be both an academic and have significant combat training. I don't think she went after Shepard in a particularly forward fashion, she was more awkward. The SB stuff was stupid where she out of no where gained super multi tasking eyes or whatever. They screwed over most the ME1 cast in ME2 and 3, how they did it varied. For Liara it was almost like she became a totally different character, the personality shift was extreme.
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