Tevinter Nights - Spoiler Thread

If the Executors want to stop the genocidal elf, that means they are allies.

I've only seen Solas supporters argue that perspective, so I'm not putting much stock in it. 

Even if that is correct, that still makes them at least allies of convenience.

the enemy of my enemy is my friend...is a poor basis for an Alliance.

Like the Soviets and US during WW2.

But the problem is such Alliances based only on mutual convenience tend to fall apart as soon as this threat is dealt with. We know nothing of the Executors. Not their motivations or goals...but given the lore has both the Qunari and Humans running from something in the north...they are at this point the best candidate for that something. And given their hostility in Inquisition I wouldn't be the least surprised if we have to deal with them at some point, so much so I'd rather ally with Solas against them then vice versa.

There are examples like that sure, but then there are also countries that have become close friends for decades or even centuries through an alliance that was originally like that.
Were humans running? I remember them exploring but that’s not the same as running.

Ok looks like I might be wrong about that...which makes me feel better.

Not necessarily. The thing is we just don't know about the origins of the humans or the qunari before they arrived in Thedas. Allegedly, because this could simply be the human historians and the Dalish getting in wrong, the humans first arrived in the north on Par Vollen having crossed the sea from somewhere, the Neromenians apparently being sea farers. However, they were around long enough before the fall of the elven empire, for those on Seheron to "learn at the feet of the elves", so it was some fair distance in the past.

Then strangely enough the qunari also came from across the sea and landed first on Par Vollen. We don't know more than that about their motivations because we have never seen any of their records and they aren't willing to divulge their history to outsiders.  However, the murals of the ancient humans show horned figures very similar to the qunari, that they seem to be treating as gods, so it could be the Neromenians were fleeing them.

Meanwhile the Kossith came from across the sea in ancient times and landed in the south of what is now Ferelden. Did they come from the same origin point as the humans or qunari or somewhere else? Any ships going in the opposite direction have never returned.

Did the Alamaari originally from the north as an offshoot of the Neromenians or were they a separate group of humans?   Could they have come across the sea to the west, where the Voshai are said to originate? Apparently they started out west of the Frostbacks but were scared off by the Shadow Goddess and ended up in the east. Since Solas confirmed this story and that it was simply a lonely spirit that frightened them away, that part would seem to be true. Then the Avvar broke away from the Alamaari, the latter staying in the lowlands and the Avvar staying in the mountains.

Anyway, it would seem from all accounts that at one time there were only elves on the surface of the area we now know as Thedas, with the titans and the dwarves underground. So were the humans just exploring when they arrived in Par Vollen or were they fleeing something or someone?

Does anyone else think that the Formless One was the demon sealed beneath Minrathous.

Whatever it is it is still down there which doesn't seem good to me. In her short story Calpernia could sense something in the depths, so discovering there is some sinister being down there doesn't come as a great surprise. I couldn't see quite why you'd want to destroy the city by freeing it though. Like as not the bound demon is what has been protecting the city all these years. As Minrathous has been around for millennia and withstood all assaults from outside forces, what would be the point in destroying it from within? Mind you, if the Qun got hold of that information it would be something they might think worthwhile doing. Take out the capital of the Imperium and the majority of the ruling elite in one fell swoop.

The Andrastian locket may have just been part of the agent’s disguise. You know, to blend in with the Theodosians.

Of course, if the Executors did murder Queen Madrigal, they did so with the replicas of the Swords of Hessarian.

Don’t read too much into the whole “kiss the locket” thing. That might have just been a fast way of ingesting the poison capsule in the locket.