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Nov 20, 2020 10:42:43 GMT traks said:

While I agree with your statement in general (some of my former favorites like Star Wars, 24 or The Walking Dead come to my mind first), I wouldn't apply it to Mass Effect yet. There is still strong demand for it and unfortunately we won't know whether BioWare can answer with a great story set in the ME universe until the next game comes out.

You may think to know the answer already, but I guess there are still enough people out there who will give them another chance. So where is the harm in BioWare trying? If it's good, you may come back to it, if not, you didn't expect any better and won't be disappointed, right?

There may be a demand for "Mass Effect" but not for what Mass Effect has become.

I'd rather see the series shelved eith a shred of its dignity intact than watch it sink into irrelevancy.

Them don’t buy it and let those who like it enjoy it. Instead many who don’t like things try to burn it down to the ground.

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Post by Iakus on Nov 20, 2020 16:58:12 GMT

Nov 20, 2020 15:56:29 GMT Hanako Ikezawa said:

There may be a demand for "Mass Effect" but not for what Mass Effect has become.

I'd rather see the series shelved eith a shred of its dignity intact than watch it sink into irrelevancy.

Them don’t buy it and let those who like it enjoy it. Instead many who don’t like things try to burn it down to the ground.

My not liking what Mass Effect has become did not cause Andromeda to fail.

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Post by ahglock on Nov 20, 2020 17:28:04 GMT

Nov 20, 2020 15:56:29 GMT Hanako Ikezawa said:

There may be a demand for "Mass Effect" but not for what Mass Effect has become.

I'd rather see the series shelved eith a shred of its dignity intact than watch it sink into irrelevancy.

Them don’t buy it and let those who like it enjoy it. Instead many who don’t like things try to burn it down to the ground.

If the number of people who do like what it became are enough to be sustainable good for them. I doubt that though.

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Post by traks on Nov 20, 2020 17:55:32 GMT

Nov 20, 2020 10:42:43 GMT traks said:

While I agree with your statement in general (some of my former favorites like Star Wars, 24 or The Walking Dead come to my mind first), I wouldn't apply it to Mass Effect yet. There is still strong demand for it and unfortunately we won't know whether BioWare can answer with a great story set in the ME universe until the next game comes out.

You may think to know the answer already, but I guess there are still enough people out there who will give them another chance. So where is the harm in BioWare trying? If it's good, you may come back to it, if not, you didn't expect any better and won't be disappointed, right?

There may be a demand for "Mass Effect" but not for what Mass Effect has become.

I'd rather see the series shelved eith a shred of its dignity intact than watch it sink into irrelevancy.

I'm still addicted, so I can't let Mass Effect go yet. :crying:

And unlike with books or TV series or movies, there is no other game franchise, where I get the same gameplay and interaction with other characters in a sci-fi setting, so I guess I'm still in that "I need more Mass Effect"-group. I still have hope that they'll take the next entry more serious and that could be enough for it becoming a good game.

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Post by Iakus on Nov 20, 2020 20:32:46 GMT

Nov 20, 2020 17:55:32 GMT traks said:

There may be a demand for "Mass Effect" but not for what Mass Effect has become.

I'd rather see the series shelved eith a shred of its dignity intact than watch it sink into irrelevancy.

I'm still addicted, so I can't let Mass Effect go yet. :crying:

And unlike with books or TV series or movies, there is no other game franchise, where I get the same gameplay and interaction with other characters in a sci-fi setting, so I guess I'm still in that "I need more Mass Effect"-group. I still have hope that they'll take the next entry more serious and that could be enough for it becoming a good game.

Try Deus Ex. The same endings, but you know, good

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Post by AnDromedary on Nov 20, 2020 20:52:27 GMT

I am in traks ' camp here. There simply are no comparable games or franchises out there. I sincerely hope Starfield will bring something to the table that goes in a Mass Effect direction but despite the enormous success of the ME trilogy back in the day, somehow, no other studio ever really took up the idea of making epic scale RPGs in a space opera setting.

This is why - despite it's very obvious and egregious writing flaws - I still really liked Andromeda and played through it twice, spending well over 100 hours with the game. Because there simply is not much like it out there.

So I say, if BioWare wishes to make a new Mass Effect, I applaud it, i wish them the best of luck and I just really hope it'll be a good game.

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Post by NotN7 on Nov 20, 2020 22:18:43 GMT

Nov 20, 2020 16:58:12 GMT Iakus said:

Nov 20, 2020 15:56:29 GMT Hanako Ikezawa said:

Them don’t buy it and let those who like it enjoy it. Instead many who don’t like things try to burn it down to the ground.

My not liking what Mass Effect has become did not cause Andromeda to fail.

Hehe are you really sure? :lol:

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Post by SirSourpuss on Nov 21, 2020 0:44:59 GMT

I am in traks ' camp here. There simply are no comparable games or franchises out there. I sincerely hope Starfield will bring something to the table that goes in a Mass Effect direction but despite the enormous success of the ME trilogy back in the day, somehow, no other studio ever really took up idea of making epic scale RPGs in a space opera setting.

This is why - despite it's very obvious and egregious writing flaws - I still really liked Andromeda and played through it twice, spending well over 100 hours with the game. Because there simply is not much like it out there.

So I say, if BioWare wishes to make a new Mass Effect, I applaud it, i wish them the best of luck and I just really hope it'll be a good game.

"New Mass Effect" doesn't have the pull it had 10 years ago. The only game I am currently interested in, is not even officially announced, but was just leaked. Q2 2022 we're getting Dragon's Dogma 2. The original Dragon's Dogma was the best fantasy RPG experience I've had in the past 10 years. I wish DA4 and its more action direction good luck against it. It'll be directly competing against it. You should have stuck with turned based, Bioware.

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Post by ClarkKent on Nov 21, 2020 0:47:41 GMT

I am in traks ' camp here. There simply are no comparable games or franchises out there. I sincerely hope Starfield will bring something to the table that goes in a Mass Effect direction but despite the enormous success of the ME trilogy back in the day, somehow, no other studio ever really took up idea of making epic scale RPGs in a space opera setting.

This is why - despite it's very obvious and egregious writing flaws - I still really liked Andromeda and played through it twice, spending well over 100 hours with the game. Because there simply is not much like it out there.

So I say, if BioWare wishes to make a new Mass Effect, I applaud it, i wish them the best of luck and I just really hope it'll be a good game.

Yeah, how I wish space opera games were as numerous as zombie games set in America.

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Post by ahglock on Nov 21, 2020 2:51:41 GMT

I am in traks ' camp here. There simply are no comparable games or franchises out there. I sincerely hope Starfield will bring something to the table that goes in a Mass Effect direction but despite the enormous success of the ME trilogy back in the day, somehow, no other studio ever really took up idea of making epic scale RPGs in a space opera setting.

This is why - despite it's very obvious and egregious writing flaws - I still really liked Andromeda and played through it twice, spending well over 100 hours with the game. Because there simply is not much like it out there.

So I say, if BioWare wishes to make a new Mass Effect, I applaud it, i wish them the best of luck and I just really hope it'll be a good game.

We are all here years after the last game, and for me many many years since the last good game so I suspect most of us are in Traks camp to one degree or another. Fallen order to some degree scratched the itch, but there really isn't much like this on the market, hence why even though I didn't like any of the characters I still played through MEA twice as well, and had a few more false starts. I'm looking forward to the legendary edition but I'm only looking forward to the next mass effect if they reverse course on a lot of things. Hope springs eternal and all that.

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Post by Sanunes on Nov 21, 2020 5:15:40 GMT

Nov 21, 2020 0:44:59 GMT SirSourpuss said:

I am in traks ' camp here. There simply are no comparable games or franchises out there. I sincerely hope Starfield will bring something to the table that goes in a Mass Effect direction but despite the enormous success of the ME trilogy back in the day, somehow, no other studio ever really took up idea of making epic scale RPGs in a space opera setting.

This is why - despite it's very obvious and egregious writing flaws - I still really liked Andromeda and played through it twice, spending well over 100 hours with the game. Because there simply is not much like it out there.

So I say, if BioWare wishes to make a new Mass Effect, I applaud it, i wish them the best of luck and I just really hope it'll be a good game.

"New Mass Effect" doesn't have the pull it had 10 years ago. The only game I am currently interested in, is not even officially announced, but was just leaked. Q2 2022 we're getting Dragon's Dogma 2. The original Dragon's Dogma was the best fantasy RPG experience I've had in the past 10 years. I wish DA4 and its more action direction good luck against it. It'll be directly competing against it. You should have stuck with turned based, Bioware.

It doesn't for you, but that doesn't mean that the audience isn't there for it either. Just by going what I have seen with the remaster announcement I have seen a lot of negativity around it, but that is still people showing that the franchise has enough pull to it that people are being negative towards the announcement of a remaster. I think that if there was indifference towards it with nobody even talking about it then that would be a much bigger problem for the brand.

There are plenty of people that will buy both games, they aren't making people buy one or the other. I am curious to see what kind of market Dragon's Dogma 2 has for I am skeptical of the reception for a turn based game after Obsidian announced they aren't making any more Pillars of Eternity content due to low sales. Maybe if they stick the AA market it will find the niche it needs for then they can keep the sales price lower like with the first game.

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Post by Sanunes on Nov 21, 2020 5:26:54 GMT

Nov 21, 2020 2:51:41 GMT ahglock said:

I am in traks ' camp here. There simply are no comparable games or franchises out there. I sincerely hope Starfield will bring something to the table that goes in a Mass Effect direction but despite the enormous success of the ME trilogy back in the day, somehow, no other studio ever really took up idea of making epic scale RPGs in a space opera setting.

This is why - despite it's very obvious and egregious writing flaws - I still really liked Andromeda and played through it twice, spending well over 100 hours with the game. Because there simply is not much like it out there.

So I say, if BioWare wishes to make a new Mass Effect, I applaud it, i wish them the best of luck and I just really hope it'll be a good game.

We are all here years after the last game, and for me many many years since the last good game so I suspect most of us are in Traks camp to one degree or another. Fallen order to some degree scratched the itch, but there really isn't much like this on the market, hence why even though I didn't like any of the characters I still played through MEA twice as well, and had a few more false starts. I'm looking forward to the legendary edition but I'm only looking forward to the next mass effect if they reverse course on a lot of things. Hope springs eternal and all that.

I am in the camp that BioWare will get in their own way, almost like they are tying their shoelaces together. They make such drastic changes to their games that there isn't a place for it to gain traction. It was one of the things I really liked about Mass Effect 3 for it built upon Mass Effect 2 and evolved it. I think they can evolve Andromeda by taking the time to figure out what worked and didn't work and build up from there for I don't think it is beyond repair and evolving the game will allow for people that liked aspects of Andromeda to find what they like, but at the same time altering what didn't work could give an olive branch to those that didn't like aspects of it.

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Post by SirSourpuss on Nov 21, 2020 7:17:49 GMT

It doesn't for you, but that doesn't mean that the audience isn't there for it either. Just by going what I have seen with the remaster announcement I have seen a lot of negativity around it, but that is still people showing that the franchise has enough pull to it that people are being negative towards the announcement of a remaster. I think that if there was indifference towards it with nobody even talking about it then that would be a much bigger problem for the brand.

True, there is engagement. Engagement doesn't necessarily translate to Day 1 sales. Indifference will set in, after the next game gets more details and turns out to be something that people don't care to see. I see more engagement with ME than DA and DA is the closest next Bioware game. Nothing Bioware releases about it generates any buzz online. This place was the most active community I saw, when the DA4 content came in. Which is great for this place, not so great for Bioware.

There are plenty of people that will buy both games, they aren't making people buy one or the other. I am curious to see what kind of market Dragon's Dogma 2 has for I am skeptical of the reception for a turn based game after Obsidian announced they aren't making any more Pillars of Eternity content due to low sales. Maybe if they stick the AA market it will find the niche it needs for then they can keep the sales price lower like with the first game.

PoE2's low sales wasn't a problem of the combat. Otherwise, DivOS and DivOS2 wouldn't have done that well. The problem with DA4 going up against, or coming after, Dragon's Dogma 2 is reception. It's like Alpha Protocol getting released after ME2.

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Post by KaiserShep on Nov 21, 2020 13:01:17 GMT

Nov 21, 2020 0:44:59 GMT SirSourpuss said:

I am in traks ' camp here. There simply are no comparable games or franchises out there. I sincerely hope Starfield will bring something to the table that goes in a Mass Effect direction but despite the enormous success of the ME trilogy back in the day, somehow, no other studio ever really took up idea of making epic scale RPGs in a space opera setting.

This is why - despite it's very obvious and egregious writing flaws - I still really liked Andromeda and played through it twice, spending well over 100 hours with the game. Because there simply is not much like it out there.

So I say, if BioWare wishes to make a new Mass Effect, I applaud it, i wish them the best of luck and I just really hope it'll be a good game.

"New Mass Effect" doesn't have the pull it had 10 years ago. The only game I am currently interested in, is not even officially announced, but was just leaked. Q2 2022 we're getting Dragon's Dogma 2. The original Dragon's Dogma was the best fantasy RPG experience I've had in the past 10 years. I wish DA4 and its more action direction good luck against it. It'll be directly competing against it. You should have stuck with turned based, Bioware.

Lol, hell no. The last thing anyone needs is Shepard to be a chess piece that stands there waiting for Cerberus pawns to make a move.

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Post by SirSourpuss on Nov 21, 2020 13:34:10 GMT

Nov 21, 2020 13:06:46 GMT KaiserShep said:

Lol, hell no. The last thing anyone needs is Shepard to be a chess piece that stands there waiting for Cerberus pawns to make a move.

Understandably, I was a little vague. I was referring to DA and DA:O's RTwP type of turn based gameplay. I have little faith in Bioware outdoing Capcom in the action combat part and the beautifully crafted world of the original Dragon's Dogma. Meanwhile, in DA:I even walking around was a chore. At least, on PC. I really, really hate what Bioware has done with Inquisition on PC. It has some of the worst control of any AAA title that I've played during this last gen and Andromeda suffered from the same problems. Controls are too floaty and made too much with a thumbstic in mind. It just doesn't suit the M+KB. And I can't play with a gamepad.

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Post by traks on Nov 21, 2020 14:26:42 GMT

What has that to with Mass Effect? ME3 Combat is what keeps people playing multiplayer to this day - 8.5 years after release - and MEA's combat is fantastic.

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Nov 21, 2020 13:01:17 GMT KaiserShep said:

Nov 21, 2020 0:44:59 GMT SirSourpuss said:

"New Mass Effect" doesn't have the pull it had 10 years ago. The only game I am currently interested in, is not even officially announced, but was just leaked. Q2 2022 we're getting Dragon's Dogma 2. The original Dragon's Dogma was the best fantasy RPG experience I've had in the past 10 years. I wish DA4 and its more action direction good luck against it. It'll be directly competing against it. You should have stuck with turned based, Bioware.

Lol, hell no. The last thing anyone needs is Shepard to be a chess piece that stands there waiting for Cerberus pawns to make a move.

Yeah omn eof the things I liked about ME is it's action focus mixed in with som etactic as it has agood blend of both. I'd like4ly ditch ME if they changed that.

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Post by Iakus on Nov 21, 2020 16:43:12 GMT

Nov 21, 2020 14:26:42 GMT traks said:

What has that to with Mass Effect? ME3 Combat is what keeps people playing multiplayer to this day - 8.5 years after release - and MEA's combat is fantastic.

I play action, turn-based, rtwp, and even point and click games. As long as the style does well, I'm fine with it.

But if the story is trash, I simply can't play it. I stopped playing Mass Effect years ago.

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Post by Iakus on Nov 21, 2020 16:45:33 GMT

Nov 21, 2020 7:17:49 GMT SirSourpuss said:

It doesn't for you, but that doesn't mean that the audience isn't there for it either. Just by going what I have seen with the remaster announcement I have seen a lot of negativity around it, but that is still people showing that the franchise has enough pull to it that people are being negative towards the announcement of a remaster. I think that if there was indifference towards it with nobody even talking about it then that would be a much bigger problem for the brand.

True, there is engagement. Engagement doesn't necessarily translate to Day 1 sales. Indifference will set in, after the next game gets more details and turns out to be something that people don't care to see. I see more engagement with ME than DA and DA is the closest next Bioware game. Nothing Bioware releases about it generates any buzz online. This place was the most active community I saw, when the DA4 content came in. Which is great for this place, not so great for Bioware.