Dragon Age The Veilguard Criticism Thread (formerly Skepticism Thread) [Spoilers]

EA projections are obviously irrelevant. Something around 2 millions actually corresponds to an estimate based on the player numbers on Steam, and 3 millions is not too far out of error margin of the estimate. Once it gets into EA Play and/or Play Plus, they will probably add all Play/Play+ users to these numbers to look better and less embarrassing. As the game gets deeper discounts, it'll get out better and might eventually break even with the development costs after 8-12 months. So, it is unlikely to become a complete financial disaster but won't bring in a noticeable profit as well. Overall, seems about right.

This confirms my theory that Veilguard needs to sell 4-7 Million copies to break even.

Because representation equals a great story, obviously. You're supposed to be so happy for representation that you turn a blind eye to any flaws in the narrative or headcanon the hell out of them, like, "this is surely meant to mean that, they just wanted me to think!"

I it very hard to believe anything this video says even if the guy sounds extremely level headed for a YouTuber dealing with the topic.

I'm honestly not aware of how much modern games usually do but 10m sounds like unreasonable expectations on EA part

Even if it did, doubtful it did it in three months

How much did Inquisition sell during its first three months?

Three million in sales sounds about right, and I doubt it will go any higher. I’ve been periodically checking Steam charts and DATV is now averaging less than 10,000 concurrent players on a daily basis. Twitch streams are also drawing in less than 1,000 viewers.

Simply put, with no DLC planned, Veilguard has nowhere to go but down.

They do add things with each new patch, but I don't know if it's enough to keep players engaged. Doubtful.

I know they didn't plan any DLC, but they could still make some couldn't they?

That's what happens when "What we do is good" turns into "What we do is good"

Let's not forget this is a total figure, all platforms combined, including what was bought by and shipped wholesale to retailers.  For all we know most of those 3M units are sitting on store shelves collecting dust.

The player count on Steam is far to low to account for 'millions' of customers.  And the word of mouth surrounding it online is quite negative - outside the small circle of (fanatical) enthusiasts.

Compare this to BMW, another action game, which released last August, sold 10M units in 3 days and still has a concurrent player count of 70k daily on average, with a peak of almost 2,5M after launch. 

Now *that* is what you call a resounding success.

Theoretically, but unlikely. The planning of DLC and at least a fair chunk of development usually occurs pre-release. This is why Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League still had four major post-release updates despite bombing commercially and critically; that content was mostly done already.

It’s also why Rocksteady couldn’t pivot to make the DLC content less cringy.

BMW? Black Myth Wukong?

10 Mil is high, but I could see why they would go for it. 10 year awaited sequel, prequel with highest sales of any Bioware game plus no real competition in almost entire year.
With bad reception AND sales, this pretty much eliminates any possibility of sequel to Veilguard.