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Post by Kappa Neko on Dec 11, 2024 19:05:41 GMT
In my experience AAA games go on sale pretty quickly for some reason. Which is why buying full price is mostly stupid. Just wait 3-6 months and it's 40% off. I don't think the sale is indicative of anything per se.
But I don't think the game is much of a financial success. At least I hope not. There should be consequences for releasing such a poorly written game in a beloved franchise. And the only way we'll see change is if it sold poorly. Missing out on big money is the only motivation for EA to do something about current BioWare. Somebody should take a hard look and clean house at the very least. Get real talent back into the company.
I believe BioWare will not get the mercy bullet I've been waiting for since Anthem because Mass Effect is still an IP people are excited about despite Andromeda. So they'd be stupid to kill BioWare before they fuck up this IP too big time and THEN they got nothing left to fall back onto.
Everywhere online people are impatiently waiting for a new Mass Effect. The enthusiasm is a bit less after DAV but mostly like with Elder Scrolls fans, hope keeps the hype alive.
For me both Mass Effect and Elder Scrolls are doomed. No hope left inside of me. But other people are less pessimistic and that will drive sales.
BioWare isn't going anywhere so I'll keep being reminded of that junkie ex living under a bridge I once used to love but now every time I think about them it makes me sad what has become of them...
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Post by Kappa Neko on Dec 11, 2024 19:08:55 GMT
On a more positive note, I've discovered the subreddit r/DankAndrastianMemes and there's some hilarious stuff there, Veilguard is a prime candidate right now and it's awesome.
Spiteful goblin me approves!
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Post by Nimlowyn on Dec 11, 2024 19:53:39 GMT
Okay, I think I can probably live with buying Veilguard for 35% off. I don't like most of what I've seen (and some of it has actually pissed me off, like the letter from Josephine to a romanced Inquisitor) but I've been a fan since Origins so I feel like I have to see it through.
Incidentally, I've been playing Tyranny. It's so nice to play a game that's new to me with weighty decisions that matter.
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Post by emissaryoflies on Dec 11, 2024 20:03:07 GMT
Wear a helmet. No drinking games. Say goodbye to your family. Tell them you love them. Make peace with estranged friends/family. Finish getting your affairs in order.
Brace for final impact.
You been warned.
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Post by Iakus on Dec 11, 2024 20:27:04 GMT
I see it's already on a 35% discount on Steam, that too is often indicitative that the game sales have been less than ideal. It's quite hefty discount too for such a new game. Damn, the game's only been out six weeks!
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Post by river82 on Dec 11, 2024 21:01:27 GMT
Okay, I think I can probably live with buying Veilguard for 35% off. I don't like most of what I've seen (and some of it has actually pissed me off, like the letter from Josephine to a romanced Inquisitor) but I've been a fan since Origins so I feel like I have to see it through. Incidentally, I've been playing Tyranny. It's so nice to play a game that's new to me with weighty decisions that matter. Super bitter that Tyranny didn't do better. Underrated gem
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Post by andydandymandy on Dec 11, 2024 21:02:48 GMT
So I am seeing that the $3 million is projections for what they expect the game to sell over its lifetime, which if true would be an absolute disaster.
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Post by LoonySpectre on Dec 11, 2024 21:04:44 GMT
Just in case the game wants to nuzzle.
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Post by grallon on Dec 11, 2024 21:07:41 GMT
The plot thickens...
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Post by rocketpineapple on Dec 11, 2024 21:25:27 GMT
Sort of related to the slavery thread but I saw someone describe Veilguard as though a YA author took over a Game of Thrones-esque series for this instalment and that sounds pretty apt.
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Post by Iakus on Dec 11, 2024 21:44:26 GMT
Sort of related to the slavery thread but I saw someone describe Veilguard as though a YA author took over a Game of Thrones-esque series for this instalment and that sounds pretty apt. I've heard it described as a "multimillion dollar writing therapy project"
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Post by emissaryoflies on Dec 11, 2024 22:26:15 GMT
We’ve heard nothing from BioWare publicly regarding this game. Their minions aren’t screaming about it from the rooftops. They dropped this thing and couldn’t get away from it fast enough to move on to their next abomination. Never seen a major launch of a supposed triple a game treated this way. Couldn’t break 90000 on steam during its opening weekend and their numbers have ONLY gone down since.
Veilguard has failed on every single level. No need for leaks or speculation.
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Post by andydandymandy on Dec 11, 2024 22:33:22 GMT
What do they even do to revive interest in the Dragon Age IP after this? Remaster or remake Origins and II?
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Post by emissaryoflies on Dec 11, 2024 22:40:41 GMT
A remaster for sure. A remake might actually see their studio spontaneously combust from the sheer audacity. And even then, a remaster from current BioWare wouldn't inspire faith. Folks would pore over every inch of it looking for anything that might have been 'updated' or "fixed" and the second they find anything, it would be all you heard about for the next 3 months and it'd be another massive flop.
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Post by fereldan on Dec 11, 2024 23:09:36 GMT
Templar_Knight here; lost access to my old account for the time being because the charger for my other laptop died and I can't remember the password or what email address was associated with the account.
Anyway: Not long ago, I saw someone criticizing DA for being "white-coded". Looking at TVG's cast, I'm interested to know - What does it mean to be "white-coded", and what changes would be necessary to resolve such a criticism?
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Post by rocketpineapple on Dec 11, 2024 23:40:53 GMT
I'm assuming the whitest thing about it is the pulling a Bharv scene and all the white guilt and laboured performative apologising that goes with it. "-coded" gets thrown around a lot though.
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Post by Envisionary on Dec 11, 2024 23:42:39 GMT
It feels like there's not much to discuss. Inquisition kept multiple conversations going for years. It looks like everyone's either gone or uninterested.
The vast majority of questions have been answered, there are no world states, there are no decisions in game that have the nuance of mages/templars, and now we're left with a sequel hook a large amount of people have reached a consensus of "this sucks."
What is left to care about?
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Post by fereldan on Dec 11, 2024 23:53:26 GMT
I'm assuming the whitest thing about it is the pulling a Bharv scene and all the white guilt and laboured performative apologising that goes with it. "-coded" gets thrown around a lot though. Ah, I should clarify - by "not long ago", I meant a bit before release, so I don't think anyone knew about the Bharv scene yet at that stage.
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Post by 10k on Dec 12, 2024 0:41:27 GMT
It feels like there's not much to discuss. Inquisition kept multiple conversations going for years. It looks like everyone's either gone or uninterested. The vast majority of questions have been answered, there are no world states, there are no decisions in game that have the nuance of mages/templars, and now we're left with a sequel hook a large amount of people have reached a consensus of "this sucks." What is left to care about? There is nothing else to care about at this point. Bioware is on fire right now, and I'm just watching it burn. I do still have a tad bit of faith in this next ME game. But that is only due to Mary DeMarle. But who knows what's going to happen at this point. So I suggest any fans of the ME games pick up Exodus the archimedes engine and give it a read. It's great! Then sit back and wait for Exodus the game.
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Post by emissaryoflies on Dec 12, 2024 0:52:07 GMT
Veilguard is a fun punching bag. It's serving its purpose; plenty to talk about there. As for the next Mass Effect, I did have faith. I had faith until I heard the people that worked on Veilguard were being allocated to work on Mass Effect 5. I do understand that it doesn't necessarily follow that Mass Effect 5 will be bad because of this, but BioWare has run out of goodwill. Andromeda and anthem were not mistakes. They were the start of a pattern.
Everything they've done in relation to Veilguard stinks of disingenuousness and deceit. They don't even have the integrity to at least try to make good for the fans who held it down for ten years. No DLC for you. They treat us with disdain and disregard. I expect nothing of quality from them. And Grift Effect will be no better.
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Post by grallon on Dec 12, 2024 1:42:34 GMT
What is left to care about? The fate of the activists that ruined this once great studio. According to the insider sources SmashJT reported on above, there is apparently some sort of course correction going on internally. Too little too late again? Who knows. Still, I echo 10k' sentiment. If the only satisfaction we can derive from this game comes from watching Bioware fall - then I'll take it. A poor return for 10 years of patient waiting but I'll take it.
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Post by adonniel on Dec 12, 2024 3:05:56 GMT
In recent news: Veilgaurd sales have reached 0% among the Mabari population. The company is greatly puzzled why, but hopes to hit their mark! BioWare: Ferelden has been wiped out by Blight.
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Post by VARMAELEN on Dec 12, 2024 3:13:56 GMT
What do they even do to revive interest in the Dragon Age IP after this? Remaster or remake Origins and II? Simple actually: Make a measured sequel that incorporate all the aspect we like. Origins remake/remaster is ridiculous, the game is totally playable, and the only thing that need need to be fixed is the memory leak. Dragon Age 2 *may* need remake/remaster. But these talks finally wouldn't matter because those who are involved in these games already left, apart from Epler maybe. Veilguard is not Baldur's Gate 3 level success that much is clear, all we can hope is that it met EA expectations, so that another sequel is possible in the near future, not in 30 years. Also I wouldn't want to trust known youtuber propagandist/grifter, even if what they say *may* *seem* like accurate.
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Post by GoldenGail3 on Dec 12, 2024 3:27:31 GMT
What do they even do to revive interest in the Dragon Age IP after this? Remaster or remake Origins and II? Dragon Age 2 *may* need remake/remaster. I would like to see DA2, at it's full potential, not the rushed product that we got instead originally lol.
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