Dragon Age The Veilguard Criticism Thread (formerly Skepticism Thread) [Spoilers]

Thanks. And yeah while I’d prefer Inky return since this is dealing with Solas, I’d be okay with a new PC so long as when Inky does show up we actually still get to control at least their dialogue.

In one of the Q&As BioWare said that if you have Rook be trans or nonbinary, there will be dialogue options in the game where you can actually talk about it which is huge! Besides that, the characters will use he/she/them when referring to you too.

What makes you think the Nexus crew will tolerate such mods?  Witness what happened to the mod changing BG3's Dame Aylin from female to male - it was banned. 

In any case, regardless of the 'beautification' aspect, I doubt there will be mods that will change the fact that combat was designed for consoles & controllers.  And the gameplay reviews coming in  right now state that even turned off to a minimum, the flashy mobile MMO graphics remain, cluttering the screen during fights. 

Nah, I'll leave this one to the 'modern audience'.

Thank god for the cellulite and top surgery scar option in the CC.

I think the reason they've mostly been referred to as Rook is not much different than in the case with previous Bioware games i.e. "Shepard", "The Warden", "Inquisitor", "Hawke" etc., since players sometimes had custom names and naturally couldn't account for every variation of them in speech. That said I do hope they don't half-ass it naturally. I do remember a bit of debate on the Larian forums about BG3 characters being "playersexual" but as we can see they were the minority in the end run.

Well, it is pretty forced messaging in a fantasy world where you can reconfigure your entire face by talking to a magic mirror. The modern experience of transness is forced into the setting solely for the purpose of being inclusive, like top surgery scars, and the implementation is sloppy because of there being a canon way to alter your appearance already. It also raises questions regarding the gendered nature of Thedas and its cultures, and how they approach this sort of subject. Can the Divine be anyone who just feels that they are a woman? Well, obviously the answer is yes if you'd ask the current writers, but that's just an example. 

Personally, if the Inquisitor has the same character customization options as the Rook does, and the Inquisitor who romanced Dorian could've always been absolutely anything and have anything going downstairs or upstairs, just as long as they have the right gender/pronoun applied or whatever, well Bioware can go fuck themselves quite frankly with their woke homophobia at that point. 

There were already trans characters in Dragon Age history -the first wasn't received well, but Krem and Maevaris are - so it's really not forced at all. It's a part of the lore already.

No one ever has had a problem with using superfluous scar meshes on their characters for aesthetic purposes in the CC but an optional feature that increases QOL for gameplay immersion just has to be controversial and "culturally" relevant in a world that is already diverse and has literally referenced real life subject matter. I am also Disabled who knows others who are amputees due to breast cancer. Not that the people hyperfixating on trans coding ever think to include us.

Nobody is going to erase the sexuality of Dorian and the random focus on genitalia is really uncomfortable and awkward. Can this thread get back to being skeptical about things that actually are significant and not becoming a pit for unrelated reactionary discourse?

There are plenty of things you can get top surgery for that have absolutely nothing to do with being trans, one which I explicitly referenced. I have even considered it for a condition I developed. Once again, as I already expected you to not care about. 

All that said, really not going to go down this transphobic rabbit hole with you. 

I'm Pan. Try again. And what's that you said earlier? Put me on ignore if you don't like me speaking. 

Earlier I linked to an article discussing the history of said surgeries for medical purposes. Goes at least 3000 years back. Lot's of commentary on it and it had differing methodologies that were obviously crude in some circumstances. With magic like that which Thedas has, it would be way easier amongst the very inclined societies - especially Tevinter - imo. People get disabled and become amputees due to cancer and other conditions all the time, so it's easy if you aren't RPing your character as trans to see yourself as someone who was injured in the past, akin to the facial scars or even broken horns Qunari players could have. Also, we are modifying our bodies and people are entitled to that regardless of the reason. It doesn't have to make sense to strangers who will never play the game with us especially in a game that already has many liberties in terms of physical reality. EDIT: I just remembered that even the Inquisitor is canonically a Disabled amputee now, for magical reasons in their case. All kinds of circumstances can possibly arise if one takes the time to think about it.

If you're a tits guy, I think you'll be disappointed from what I've seen.