Dragon Age The Veilguard Criticism Thread (formerly Skepticism Thread) [Spoilers]

Suspension of disbelief is indeed real, and quite subjective. We all have different degrees of it and different fields/topic that trigger it.

I'd say Veilguard's direction is something that was, at least, already present in Inquisition, though, but if them going further in that direction bothers you that much, not buying it is the right choice.

I think there are pretty low chances of Bioware changing course, because if Veilguard isn't successful enough for EA the latter is going to shut down the former. 

Last I checked the Nexus doesn't own BG3's content...



Regardless, the pre-order sales for DA4 aren't looking good. And this latest revelation about silly self-inserts & gender politics will simply further damage the reputation of the game. I think it's heading the way "Concord" & "Dustborn" and other DEI inspired crap went: a financial failure. But then again, perhaps Bioware no longer cares about that.



*shrug*

Hmm, well, if you can make an androgynous character with top scars, but can't make Red Sonja, then how inclusive is this game, really?

Did the video shown the whole process of creating the character, or just the slider?

It's possible, given how I think the CC works (which could very well be wrong), that depending on some choices in the body type before, or the 'triangle' slider before or after, that you can modify Rook's body and proportions further.

I do think that outside of specific limitations that might exist due to containing the body for the various armor and outfits, and some limitation depending on the race (they did say elves can't be as physically bulk as humans, without even mentioning qunari), that there should be freedom in developing the physique, from being bulky muscular to more lean and athletic to more curvy. 

One thing to consider in the IGN CC video the journalist mentioned something about the butt slider/giving her Rook a 'hell of an ass', but the footage shown some far doesn't corroborate that statement. We'll see. 

Truthfully from what I've seen, I couldn't make a body similar to my own if I wanted to with the slider, not even up to 100%. I was looking forward to changing body shapes and there's always a possibility that there are options that haven't been shown, but so far it looks extremely disappointing to me.

Its certainly possible that there are combinations that do but the CC video I looked did do pretty full modification and the example was with a large Quanari 

  specific bust example at 2:30

I don't buy the 'limitations due to armor and outfits' argument because they clearly have pretty extensive height and weight sliders.  Those allow for way more extreme sizes variations.

The facial animations are quite concerning. I've seen a few with Neve and Harding and it is really hard to not notice. 

Unbelievable how uninspired and similar are all the background origins, they aren't even diverse while all heroic. It's just the same " Rook saved a few folks against orders but it had consequences " Very disappointed with the warden's background. Very disappointed with all the backgrounds, we are close to laziness at this point. 

What if I wanted to roleplay a selfish ot ruthlesss character ?

As for the CC. Full of hypocrisy as usual. They keep talking about being inclusive but they always have to exclude a demographic or something that are opposite to their weird beliefs in their actions. Lately, everything that is feminine or close to a traditional woman to them has to be eradicated or twisted. Female characters have to look androgynous, muscular or manly, some bizarre ideology in the western video game industry lately. 

The same as ubisoft, starfield. Having trans things is OK, he/she/them, i don't know. However, we are not okay for big chests for women. They all have to get small tits. They said " you can be whatever the hell you want "

Bellara looks terrible. My god, her face is so weird. 

No one asked you to make the assumptions you did, but here we are.

That said, my character wouldn't be a 1:1 copy of myself, let's be real, and I *don't see scars from lifechanging events or potential ones as inherently "ugly": discomforting and/or traumatizing on occasion, yes. I stopped viewing myself and others with them that way as I became a lot more conscious about how Disabled bodies are represented by the public and media physically, especially in a genre like this one where bodily differences are often a sign that marks you moralistically.

A ton of other things are only available for me to use when representing myself currently now that BW actually expanded their CC and I rarely see characters who represent me in gaming already (ask anyone who's only had questionable skin tones, bald hair, afros, and on occasion, braids as hair options) so wanting to see Disability in a way that isn't stereotypical is no different for me personally. For others, sure. Not everyone responds the same. l

No, that is not my argument. My argument actually was that people should be able to represent themselves however they wish regardless of whether it personally made sense, not because of arbitrary "lore" justifications other people who would never play with them bring up. 


Secondly it's their site and they are the ones who decide what they want to host on it. It wasn't a simple body replacer - of which there are tons - like you claimed, and it literally did something actual actors take issue with by using AI to modify and alter their voices without consent. It didn't take random lines and reuse them in different ways via XML. As a result, even if it wasn't designed with that negative intent in mind, there'd still be valid reasons for it to be taken down. 

Perhaps you would be interested in a woman's point of view on all this then?