Dragon Age The Veilguard Criticism Thread (formerly Skepticism Thread) [Spoilers]

Hey, if they want to cater to smaller crowd, that's certainly their prerogative.

But in doing that, they sell less copies. So I hope they're aware of that as well.

That's because  BG3 cast a much broader net.

It offered genuinely feminine (and masculine) options in the CC
It offered evil RP options (hell, one of the Origins is "The Dark Urge" which is about as evil and debased as it gets)
The player maintains control of the NPC companions in combat
You get more than three active skills in combat.
There are often multiple ways to resolve a conflict, not all of them involving combat. And they take a crazy number of possibilities into account when tracking quest progress.

I could go on, but you get the idea. BG3 is far more "player friendly" than Veilguard is shaping up to be. And that is the secret to is success.

Among average players beyond hardcore fans, the things they dislike I see almost everywhere almost all the time that could prevent them to buy the game.

1. Artstyle, it’s really the big NO from average gamers, only a few hardcore fans are happy with it. Even a lot of hardcore dragon age fans are not happy with it.

2. Dark fantasy before, now seems like high fantasy / dysney, this game doesn’t feel like dragon age anymore etc etc. I’m not saying that ‘s it’s true, but that’s what a lot feel, that’s their perception , and they are also not helped by the articles that keep telling that Bioware escaped from the first episode and dark fantasy for high fantasy.

3. Veilguard that feels like a mobile game.  The ugly color for UI, the purple everywhere.

They are the three things I keep seeing with average gamers. Before the embargo, the preorders for dragon age on steam and PSN were not really good. Now maybe with everything that happened since yesterday, it will help a lot.

To be honest for the artstyle after the cries with DAII,hence why they came back a bit with DA:I, I didn’t expect them to do that again.

I'd also add loss of control over our companions is probably the most unpopular among hardcore fans so far. 

I read conflicting views about PSN sales, because there were people saying that it was selling rather well on PSN, but I didn't check myself.

I don't know about hardcore gamers, but I do expect an uptick in preorders given how most previews were quite positive, and even the more skeptical ones I could find (given the sheer number of them, I could easily have missed them), had good points and didn't say the game seem *bad* overall.

I think, as I mentioned before, that they took a bet especially in regards of companion control because they might have metrics that most players didn't actually control companions in previous games, or at least Inquisition. It's their choice to do so, but I'm not personally sure it was the right one (it's definitely not my preference).

For the people who want to ignore the larger, more franchise encompassing problems in the franchise, this video really summed up the problems people had. 

It's something you cannot comprehend. You don't need to know why, and there's not enough time to explain.

Railroading is something I've been worried about as well. Even BG3 had this problem since it's still impossible to RP certain angles because of plot conventions even though it gives a lot of wiggle room.

Well yes, but that still took a lot of work and there are still many bugs in place and issues where variables aren't flagged properly that affect quest completion and character arcs - most notoriously with Wyll. Even ME3 had this problem with its readiness system since it was impossible to get a perfect readiness rating without multiplayer until a patch. That being said I want a lot of variables as well, I'm not saying I don't, quite the opposite as I was really eager to see what they'd implement with the Keep and am worried by how small the origin choices supposedly will be. 

At around 9:40 she starts to explain the mastectomy slider.