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Post by KaiserShep on Jun 27, 2021 23:01:46 GMT
All sending Sheperd on this mission manages to convey is how utterly mishandled it was. Being left with no choice but to destroy the relay is the logical and deserved punishment for a terribly planned and utterly bungled op that Sheperd finds impressive ways to fail at practically every turn. It makes it look as though Sheperd is the world's biggest fraud, who acts like a total fool when he doesn't have his team there... The thing I keep thinking though is that no one even really has to know. For all the drama of a destroyed relay, the destruction itself essentially eradicates any evidence involving either the Alliance or Shepard, especially the latter. Hackett can simply deny ‘til he’s blue in the face, and without anything substantial to hold over him, all there would be is suspicion. The problem is that here, characters are just divining the truth somehow. The bottom line is that I feel that it’s kind of stupid to let anyone know about the details. In Hackett’s place, I wouldn’t say shit to anyone. I’d delete any logs leading to Shepard, and Kenson is just another MIA out in the asshole of the galaxy. If the Batarians feel compelled to act, it would be solely off of their suspicions, and that’s not something they’d easily find support for.
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Post by marshalmoriarty on Jun 27, 2021 23:08:54 GMT
I say again - what reality are some of you living in where a guy accused of the murder of 300,000 plus the destruction of a mass relay, a whole system and god knows how many millions of credits worth of damage in destroyed stations, resources etc doesn't lead to the arrest of the accused? Pepple might not be on the best terms with Batarians but 300,000 deaths in cold blood? Come on. Do you think that's the kind of press attention and accusations the Alliance, Council or Cerberus for that matter want? It isn't. But anyway, Hackett's attitude speaks for itself - he was all set to deny this op but he can't now. It had been days since Shep's bungled op and presumably they now have a clear picture what happened. It is a prison after all. Not everyone is as incompetant as Sheperd at gathering evidence - my garage at my house has a CCTV to deter burglars and hopefully capture the image of anyone who tries something. We're really saying a prison has no cameras? Even in its docking bay where escapees would have to go to get a shuttle? To say nothing of gun cams like Eden Prime patrol guy.
If they really came out of that incident with no evidence it was Sheperd, we'd have to add them to the 'people who act stupidly in Arrival' list. Batarians take internal security of their systems seriously. They'd call in an attack like this instantly. Balak is probably heading there in a ship as soon as he heard, yelling 'FASTER, DAMN IT!' Do you think he'd care about evidence one way or the other? And evidence aside, do you think *anyone* is going to defend Humanity over this? Its a free pass for every anti-human group to say 'Look at what they've done - we *told* you'. You'd make the Batarians look like victims here - *because they are!*
Also Sheperd can try (unsuccessfully thanks to Kenson) to blow his own cover by warning the colony to evacuate. Full marks for having a conscience about it, zero marks for implicating himself, the Alliance, Cerberus and the Spectres in this seeing as how he currently represents and\or is publically associated with all of them. Its like the Council say in ME1 - his style suits certain kinds of operations. But stealth and discretion are not his way and thus this op is entirely unsuitable for him. And so it proves. They weren't wrong in that assessment. His involvement always involves mass firefights, big body counts and even bigger explosions. Hackett would have to be out of his mind to think Sheperd was the go to guy for something like this.
This is a failed mission that resulted in a disgraceful atrocity to cover said failure. The idea that the Alliance would try and sweep this under the rug even in the absurdly improbable case there is no evidence isn't just obscene - its transparent lies that would be completely self defeating in the anti human outrage it would foster. There would protests, race riots, wearing an Alliance uniform would be like psinting a bullseye on your back. All amidst border skirmishes, rising tensions and a daily hammering from the media to the Alliance, Cerberus and Council.
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Post by colfoley on Jun 28, 2021 0:11:16 GMT
Isn't this a bit of a trap? You have complained about how Shepard was alone on this mission and how stupid it was and how Shepard should not be expected to do everything and now you are saying that he is the biggest fraud because he wasn't able to succeed because he didn't have those resources with him? No, I'm saying its the dlc's fault for making Sheperd look foolish and out of character. I've said all along that Arrival's writing of the characters is poor, having Sheperd and Hackett making foolish OoC errors and attempting an entirely unrealistic plan with no prospect of success. To go ahead under those circumstances and continue to keep trying to do it all himself when it clearly isn't working out is not something Sheperd does anywhere else in the series. But the dlc insists on writing him that way. Which makes him look foolish and sends the message that alone, he's a bit of a screw up. Which is not how he is ever written before or after. It makes Arrival into 'Sheperd acts like a moron: the dlc'. I was going to say something but then I remembered that this was one of the other niggling complaints about the ending that I had that it also forced Shepard to go it alone without any of their squad there to help them out either. And given what happened there to maybe you have a point about their solo competency given everything that happened in the Decision Chamber.
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Post by marshalmoriarty on Jun 28, 2021 0:30:50 GMT
If only more of them had made it - no wonder Garrus looked so worried. 'You're going to go this... alone? Wait, let me glue myself back together here...'
They needed their rides back. When they were running to that beam, you can just hear Sheperd saying 'I *told* them to keep their hands off my ground vehicles - reaching the Conduit on Ilos was a snap in my Mako. And I'd be there yesterday if those swines hadn't nicked my Hammerhead. Now I've got to just run?! Isn't there a bicycle or something at least? A skateboard? I'll take anything!'
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Post by Obsidian Gryphon on Jun 28, 2021 8:23:37 GMT
Looking through Steam summer sales. Noticed MELE is 17% off but not on Origins.
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Post by KaiserShep on Jun 28, 2021 8:39:35 GMT
I say again - what reality are some of you living in where a guy accused of the murder of 300,000 plus the destruction of a mass relay, a whole system and god knows how many millions of credits worth of damage in destroyed stations, resources etc doesn't lead to the arrest of the accused? Pepple might not be on the best terms with Batarians but 300,000 deaths in cold blood? Come on. Do you think that's the kind of press attention and accusations the Alliance, Council or Cerberus for that matter want? It isn't. But anyway, Hackett's attitude speaks for itself - he was all set to deny this op but he can't now. It had been days since Shep's bungled op and presumably they now have a clear picture what happened. It is a prison after all. Not everyone is as incompetant as Sheperd at gathering evidence - my garage at my house has a CCTV to deter burglars and hopefully capture the image of anyone who tries something. We're really saying a prison has no cameras? Even in its docking bay where escapees would have to go to get a shuttle? To say nothing of gun cams like Eden Prime patrol guy. If they really came out of that incident with no evidence it was Sheperd, we'd have to add them to the 'people who act stupidly in Arrival' list. Batarians take internal security of their systems seriously. They'd call in an attack like this instantly. Balak is probably heading there in a ship as soon as he heard, yelling 'FASTER, DAMN IT!' Do you think he'd care about evidence one way or the other? And evidence aside, do you think *anyone* is going to defend Humanity over this? Its a free pass for every anti-human group to say 'Look at what they've done - we *told* you'. You'd make the Batarians look like victims here - *because they are!* Also Sheperd can try (unsuccessfully thanks to Kenson) to blow his own cover by warning the colony to evacuate. Full marks for having a conscience about it, zero marks for implicating himself, the Alliance, Cerberus and the Spectres in this seeing as how he currently represents and\or is publically associated with all of them. Its like the Council say in ME1 - his style suits certain kinds of operations. But stealth and discretion are not his way and thus this op is entirely unsuitable for him. And so it proves. They weren't wrong in that assessment. His involvement always involves mass firefights, big body counts and even bigger explosions. Hackett would have to be out of his mind to think Sheperd was the go to guy for something like this. This is a failed mission that resulted in a disgraceful atrocity to cover said failure. The idea that the Alliance would try and sweep this under the rug even in the absurdly improbable case there is no evidence isn't just obscene - its transparent lies that would be completely self defeating in the anti human outrage it would foster. There would protests, race riots, wearing an Alliance uniform would be like psinting a bullseye on your back. All amidst border skirmishes, rising tensions and a daily hammering from the media to the Alliance, Cerberus and Council. What press? The press would only have what the Alliance is willing to give, and Hackett can simply ghost them all. In the end, it’s really a matter of priority. Shepard and Hackett know that the reapers are due to arrive in mere months after this delay. Any issue with the Batarians would ultimately be pointless, and hilariously, most are too dead to do anything about it by ME3 anyway. In short, fuck the Batarians. Either way they’re bound to waste everyone’s time with their griping while an existential threat looms on the horizon. Keeping as much to yourself and keeping everyone in the dark about the incident is the only option that really makes sense, provided you truly believe there’s a threat coming, which Hackett seems to acknowledge.
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Post by winterking on Jun 28, 2021 10:17:22 GMT
I always do Arrival before the Suicide Mission because i want the Heavy Weapon upgrade that you find in Arrival. With that last upgrade you can fire the Cain 2 Times. I'm pretty sure you can fire the Cain Heavy Weapon twice without doing Arrival before the Suicide mission but I think you need to rescue the workers on Zaeed's loyalty mission and do the N7: Blood Pack Base side mission.
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Post by themikefest on Jun 28, 2021 11:22:49 GMT
If only more of them had made it - no wonder Garrus looked so worried. 'You're going to go this... alone? Wait, let me glue myself back together here...' They needed their rides back. When they were running to that beam, you can just hear Sheperd saying 'I *told* them to keep their hands off my ground vehicles - reaching the Conduit on Ilos was a snap in my Mako. And I'd be there yesterday if those swines hadn't nicked my Hammerhead. Now I've got to just run?! Isn't there a bicycle or something at least? A skateboard? I'll take anything!' Ah yes, the who wants to commit suicide run, I mean beam run. What a joke. Made worse with the SR2 showing up to pick up the squadmates during the what-the-crap evac scene. But the funniest part is everyone suffering from temporary blindness not to notice the reaper flying away leaving the beam unguarded for them to get to the beam. That couldn't happen, right? All that crap was done for the touchy-feely scene between Shepard and Anderson.
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Post by marshalmoriarty on Jun 28, 2021 11:28:09 GMT
I say again - what reality are some of you living in where a guy accused of the murder of 300,000 plus the destruction of a mass relay, a whole system and god knows how many millions of credits worth of damage in destroyed stations, resources etc doesn't lead to the arrest of the accused? Pepple might not be on the best terms with Batarians but 300,000 deaths in cold blood? Come on. Do you think that's the kind of press attention and accusations the Alliance, Council or Cerberus for that matter want? It isn't. But anyway, Hackett's attitude speaks for itself - he was all set to deny this op but he can't now. It had been days since Shep's bungled op and presumably they now have a clear picture what happened. It is a prison after all. Not everyone is as incompetant as Sheperd at gathering evidence - my garage at my house has a CCTV to deter burglars and hopefully capture the image of anyone who tries something. We're really saying a prison has no cameras? Even in its docking bay where escapees would have to go to get a shuttle? To say nothing of gun cams like Eden Prime patrol guy. If they really came out of that incident with no evidence it was Sheperd, we'd have to add them to the 'people who act stupidly in Arrival' list. Batarians take internal security of their systems seriously. They'd call in an attack like this instantly. Balak is probably heading there in a ship as soon as he heard, yelling 'FASTER, DAMN IT!' Do you think he'd care about evidence one way or the other? And evidence aside, do you think *anyone* is going to defend Humanity over this? Its a free pass for every anti-human group to say 'Look at what they've done - we *told* you'. You'd make the Batarians look like victims here - *because they are!* Also Sheperd can try (unsuccessfully thanks to Kenson) to blow his own cover by warning the colony to evacuate. Full marks for having a conscience about it, zero marks for implicating himself, the Alliance, Cerberus and the Spectres in this seeing as how he currently represents and\or is publically associated with all of them. Its like the Council say in ME1 - his style suits certain kinds of operations. But stealth and discretion are not his way and thus this op is entirely unsuitable for him. And so it proves. They weren't wrong in that assessment. His involvement always involves mass firefights, big body counts and even bigger explosions. Hackett would have to be out of his mind to think Sheperd was the go to guy for something like this. This is a failed mission that resulted in a disgraceful atrocity to cover said failure. The idea that the Alliance would try and sweep this under the rug even in the absurdly improbable case there is no evidence isn't just obscene - its transparent lies that would be completely self defeating in the anti human outrage it would foster. There would protests, race riots, wearing an Alliance uniform would be like psinting a bullseye on your back. All amidst border skirmishes, rising tensions and a daily hammering from the media to the Alliance, Cerberus and Council. What press? The press would only have what the Alliance is willing to give, and Hackett can simply ghost them all. In the end, it’s really a matter of priority. Shepard and Hackett know that the reapers are due to arrive in mere months after this delay. Any issue with the Batarians would ultimately be pointless, and hilariously, most are too dead to do anything about it by ME3 anyway. In short, fuck the Batarians. Either way they’re bound to waste everyone’s time with their griping while an existential threat looms on the horizon. Keeping as much to yourself and keeping everyone in the dark about the incident is the only option that really makes sense, provided you truly believe there’s a threat coming, which Hackett seems to acknowledge. If America destroyed Leningrad or Minsk and didn't explain themselves, you think the Western press organisations... what? Wouldn't care? You've clearly never dealt with the press... And people in Europe, Canada, S Korea and yes America, they'd be thrilled at this would they? Wake up man - it would be seen an outrageous act of murder that will start a war nobody wants. If you keep quiet you'll have a war which likely will still beraging when the Reapers arrive - genius move right there. Ah but we're leaving out the most important part of what you said and why you forfeit your right to any other opinions - the massacre of almost an entire race in ME3 is 'hilarious', is it? You blame the actions of the Hegemony on the Batarian people, you massacre them in cold blood and then laugh whn they're wiped out before getting justice? We sre done.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Jun 28, 2021 12:04:11 GMT
What press? The press would only have what the Alliance is willing to give, and Hackett can simply ghost them all. In the end, it’s really a matter of priority. Shepard and Hackett know that the reapers are due to arrive in mere months after this delay. Any issue with the Batarians would ultimately be pointless, and hilariously, most are too dead to do anything about it by ME3 anyway. In short, fuck the Batarians. Either way they’re bound to waste everyone’s time with their griping while an existential threat looms on the horizon. Keeping as much to yourself and keeping everyone in the dark about the incident is the only option that really makes sense, provided you truly believe there’s a threat coming, which Hackett seems to acknowledge. If America destroyed Leningrad or Minsk and didn't explain themselves, you think the Western press organisations... what? Wouldn't care? You've clearly never dealt with the press... And people in Europe, Canada, S Korea and yes America, they'd be thrilled at this would they? Wake up man - it would be seen an outrageous act of murder that will start a war nobody wants. If you keep quiet you'll have a war which likely will still beraging when the Reapers arrive - genius move right there. Ah but we're leaving out the most important part of what you said and why you forfeit your right to any other opinions - the massacre of almost an entire race in ME3 is 'hilarious', is it? You blame the actions of the Hegemony on the Batarian people, you massacre them in cold blood and then laugh whn they're wiped out before getting justice? We sre done. TBH the Batarians have no allies wheras the Allianc eat least has the Council on their side and Batarians had already been using terrorist attacks on colonies for decades befoer then both sponsored by the Hegemony and by independent action. So the Batarians can't claim to be entirel yinnocent and at leas t as Shepard can at least attempt to warn the colony befoer activating the project I'd say their actions are justified.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2021 12:34:13 GMT
Endgame review - MELE, for me, does not represent an improvement over the original versions of the games. The graphical upgrades just don't overcome the more frequent bugs with enemy AI and variability in how individual missions populate with enemies, loss of some formerly available bonus powers, and the failure to appreciably smooth of character creation, file imports, and old, well known bugs.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Jun 28, 2021 12:53:33 GMT
Endgame review - MELE, for me, does not represent an improvement over the original versions of the games. The graphical upgrades just don't overcome the more frequent bugs with enemy AI and variability in how individual missions populate with enemies, loss of some formerly available bonus powers, and the failure to appreciably smooth of character creation, file imports, and old, well known bugs. Yeah I don' t think it's a massive improvement but I think it does more make improvements in areas where the originals needed it but didn't get such as ditching hte MP requirement and galactic readiness a more universal CC across the 3 games as it definitely feels and looks moer coordinated to me things like that. Granted there ae ra few bugs tha thave crept in wit hthe changes but hopefully with time they'll get ironed out. I can definitely see a tleas t 1 or 2 moer patches coming anyway to straighten it out based on my experience with it. It's a good enough improvement that I like what they've done so I'm not completely writing it off as I can see myself going through again with another Shep later as I do have at least 2 Shep's in mind I wantto play. I'm not doing them now as afte rdoing 2 playthroughs one on the original and then one on the LE I needed a break.
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Post by KaiserShep on Jun 28, 2021 13:02:14 GMT
What press? The press would only have what the Alliance is willing to give, and Hackett can simply ghost them all. In the end, it’s really a matter of priority. Shepard and Hackett know that the reapers are due to arrive in mere months after this delay. Any issue with the Batarians would ultimately be pointless, and hilariously, most are too dead to do anything about it by ME3 anyway. In short, fuck the Batarians. Either way they’re bound to waste everyone’s time with their griping while an existential threat looms on the horizon. Keeping as much to yourself and keeping everyone in the dark about the incident is the only option that really makes sense, provided you truly believe there’s a threat coming, which Hackett seems to acknowledge. If America destroyed Leningrad or Minsk and didn't explain themselves, you think the Western press organisations... what? Wouldn't care? You've clearly never dealt with the press... And people in Europe, Canada, S Korea and yes America, they'd be thrilled at this would they? Wake up man - it would be seen an outrageous act of murder that will start a war nobody wants. If you keep quiet you'll have a war which likely will still beraging when the Reapers arrive - genius move right there. Ah but we're leaving out the most important part of what you said and why you forfeit your right to any other opinions - the massacre of almost an entire race in ME3 is 'hilarious', is it? You blame the actions of the Hegemony on the Batarian people, you massacre them in cold blood and then laugh whn they're wiped out before getting justice? We sre done. If the country being destroyed had a literal gateway to hell underneath it, and doing so delayed the inevitable onslaught of the demon horde, I’d say that would present an extraordinary circumstance to consider. That’s basically the reaper invasion. It being an outrageous case of murder is superseded by the sheer gravity of what’s to come. I think you’re taking the word hilarious a little too literally. For one, it’s a fictional race so laughing at their suffering ain’t no thing anyway, but it simply refers to the ridiculous irony of the Batarians being the universe’s whipping boy and denying them any retribution twice over. The bottom line is this: the truth serves no one but the reapers at that point. Whether or not anyone deserves an explanation becomes moot when everyone’s on the verge of being exterminated. If the US destroyed Leningrad and managed to conceal the truth, and it stopped something unbelievably worse, you could bet that few would know about it for years to come.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2021 13:39:17 GMT
Endgame review - MELE, for me, does not represent an improvement over the original versions of the games. The graphical upgrades just don't overcome the more frequent bugs with enemy AI and variability in how individual missions populate with enemies, loss of some formerly available bonus powers, and the failure to appreciably smooth of character creation, file imports, and old, well known bugs. Yeah I don' t think it's a massive improvement but I think it does more make improvements in areas where the originals needed it but didn't get such as ditching hte MP requirement and galactic readiness a more universal CC across the 3 games as it definitely feels and looks moer coordinated to me things like that. Granted there ae ra few bugs tha thave crept in wit hthe changes but hopefully with time they'll get ironed out. I can definitely see a tleas t 1 or 2 moer patches coming anyway to straighten it out based on my experience with it. It's a good enough improvement that I like what they've done so I'm not completely writing it off as I can see myself going through again with another Shep later as I do have at least 2 Shep's in mind I wantto play. I'm not doing them now as afte rdoing 2 playthroughs one on the original and then one on the LE I needed a break. I'll probably play it again to polish off achievements once they fix the achievements but on the Xbox, but I don't see myself ever playing it again after that. I'd rather play the original versions. The ME3 adjustments to EMS are not an issue at all as, when I have the EC installed, all endings are readily available even at 50% of TMS. For me, the graphical improvements are not that big a deal because HDR is still not being recognize with my particular TV configuration (even though the TV is HDR). I finally got the photo mode working, but I wouldn't say it's working well either. There's just no upside to playing LE for me over playing the old games right now.
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Post by Radec on Jun 28, 2021 16:02:06 GMT
What press? The press would only have what the Alliance is willing to give, and Hackett can simply ghost them all. In the end, it’s really a matter of priority. Shepard and Hackett know that the reapers are due to arrive in mere months after this delay. Any issue with the Batarians would ultimately be pointless, and hilariously, most are too dead to do anything about it by ME3 anyway. In short, fuck the Batarians. Either way they’re bound to waste everyone’s time with their griping while an existential threat looms on the horizon. Keeping as much to yourself and keeping everyone in the dark about the incident is the only option that really makes sense, provided you truly believe there’s a threat coming, which Hackett seems to acknowledge. If America destroyed Leningrad or Minsk and didn't explain themselves, you think the Western press organisations... what? Wouldn't care? You've clearly never dealt with the press... And people in Europe, Canada, S Korea and yes America, they'd be thrilled at this would they? Wake up man - it would be seen an outrageous act of murder that will start a war nobody wants. If you keep quiet you'll have a war which likely will still beraging when the Reapers arrive - genius move right there. Ah but we're leaving out the most important part of what you said and why you forfeit your right to any other opinions - the massacre of almost an entire race in ME3 is 'hilarious', is it? You blame the actions of the Hegemony on the Batarian people, you massacre them in cold blood and then laugh whn they're wiped out before getting justice? We sre done. Its less destroying a Russian city and more like blowing up a North Korean gulag to get at the nukes under it (that are about to launch and kill everyone on the planet anyway i.e. the Reapers). The guards are scum and the slaves are already dead, regardless. No point worrying about them. I doubt anyone would care about say the US bombing a NK gulag to prevent armageddon in our world, either. A day or two of handwringing in the leftist press, at best. Personally, I do blame the actions of the Hegemony on it's people. It's their government. They support and enable its legitimacy. If they didn't, they'd revolt, and it'd take a different form than a dystopian slaver empire. They're all guilty for what it does, whether via inaction or outright support. Frankly I dont understand why the Council or Alliance hasnt already attempted a regime change when the Hegemony regulaly kidnaps and enslaves their constituents in mass numbers and sends its agents to drop asteroids on their colonies. They're worse than NK. No earth government would get away with that sort of thing. Its a fair point that Shepard catches an idiot ball to not return to the Normandy and come up with a better plan to deal with the situation, though.
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Yeah I don' t think it's a massive improvement but I think it does more make improvements in areas where the originals needed it but didn't get such as ditching hte MP requirement and galactic readiness a more universal CC across the 3 games as it definitely feels and looks moer coordinated to me things like that. Granted there ae ra few bugs tha thave crept in wit hthe changes but hopefully with time they'll get ironed out. I can definitely see a tleas t 1 or 2 moer patches coming anyway to straighten it out based on my experience with it. It's a good enough improvement that I like what they've done so I'm not completely writing it off as I can see myself going through again with another Shep later as I do have at least 2 Shep's in mind I wantto play. I'm not doing them now as afte rdoing 2 playthroughs one on the original and then one on the LE I needed a break. I'll probably play it again to polish off achievements once they fix the achievements but on the Xbox, but I don't see myself ever playing it again after that. I'd rather play the original versions. The ME3 adjustments to EMS are not an issue at all as, when I have the EC installed, all endings are readily available even at 50% of TMS. For me, the graphical improvements are not that big a deal because HDR is still not being recognize with my particular TV configuration (even though the TV is HDR). I finally got the photo mode working, but I wouldn't say it's working well either. There's just no upside to playing LE for me over playing the old games right now. For me there were more ups than downs withthe LE so I'll likely stick with it. I basrel yplayed Pinnacle statio anywayso that isn't reall ytha tbig a loss and if I wantto pla yit I have the originals which I'll probably install on my old games section of my PC harddrive if tha tshould happen but I think for the most part i'll be sticking with the LE
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Post by colfoley on Jun 28, 2021 17:38:35 GMT
What press? The press would only have what the Alliance is willing to give, and Hackett can simply ghost them all. In the end, it’s really a matter of priority. Shepard and Hackett know that the reapers are due to arrive in mere months after this delay. Any issue with the Batarians would ultimately be pointless, and hilariously, most are too dead to do anything about it by ME3 anyway. In short, fuck the Batarians. Either way they’re bound to waste everyone’s time with their griping while an existential threat looms on the horizon. Keeping as much to yourself and keeping everyone in the dark about the incident is the only option that really makes sense, provided you truly believe there’s a threat coming, which Hackett seems to acknowledge. If America destroyed Leningrad or Minsk and didn't explain themselves, you think the Western press organisations... what? Wouldn't care? You've clearly never dealt with the press... And people in Europe, Canada, S Korea and yes America, they'd be thrilled at this would they? Wake up man - it would be seen an outrageous act of murder that will start a war nobody wants. If you keep quiet you'll have a war which likely will still beraging when the Reapers arrive - genius move right there. Ah but we're leaving out the most important part of what you said and why you forfeit your right to any other opinions - the massacre of almost an entire race in ME3 is 'hilarious', is it? You blame the actions of the Hegemony on the Batarian people, you massacre them in cold blood and then laugh whn they're wiped out before getting justice? We sre done. The problem with this is Shepard did explain themselves. Both in a report and in person to Admiral Hacket. Now it is unclear exactly what the Alliance chose to share with the Batarians on this information...but if you remember correctly from the beginning of ME 3 that Shepard was both A. Arrested by the Alliance awaiting trial for their actions in Arrival...if you played it...and B. The Batarians themselves were calling for their respective blood for their actions. Just that in both cases they were prempted by a larger threat...the Reapers. The same threat Shepard brought people time for by blowing up that system in the first place...which however stupid you think the reasons for us getting there might be was the right thing to do at the time. If America destroyed Leningrad or Minsk and didn't explain themselves, you think the Western press organisations... what? Wouldn't care? You've clearly never dealt with the press... And people in Europe, Canada, S Korea and yes America, they'd be thrilled at this would they? Wake up man - it would be seen an outrageous act of murder that will start a war nobody wants. If you keep quiet you'll have a war which likely will still beraging when the Reapers arrive - genius move right there. Ah but we're leaving out the most important part of what you said and why you forfeit your right to any other opinions - the massacre of almost an entire race in ME3 is 'hilarious', is it? You blame the actions of the Hegemony on the Batarian people, you massacre them in cold blood and then laugh whn they're wiped out before getting justice? We sre done. Its less destroying a Russian city and more like blowing up a North Korean gulag to get at the nukes under it (that are about to launch and kill everyone on the planet anyway i.e. the Reapers). The guards are scum and the slaves are already dead, regardless. No point worrying about them. I doubt anyone would care about say the US bombing a NK gulag to prevent armageddon in our world, either. A day or two of handwringing in the leftist press, at best. Personally, I do blame the actions of the Hegemony on it's people. It's their government. They support and enable its legitimacy. If they didn't, they'd revolt, and it'd take a different form than a dystopian slaver empire. They're all guilty for what it does, whether via inaction or outright support. Frankly I dont understand why the Council or Alliance hasnt already attempted a regime change when the Hegemony regulaly kidnaps and enslaves their constituents in mass numbers and sends its agents to drop asteroids on their colonies. They're worse than NK. No earth government would get away with that sort of thing. Its a fair point that Shepard catches an idiot ball to not return to the Normandy and come up with a better plan to deal with the situation, though. If world history and recent events is any indication I am not sure I would be throwing these kinds of statements around lightly.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2021 17:39:49 GMT
I'll probably play it again to polish off achievements once they fix the achievements but on the Xbox, but I don't see myself ever playing it again after that. I'd rather play the original versions. The ME3 adjustments to EMS are not an issue at all as, when I have the EC installed, all endings are readily available even at 50% of TMS. For me, the graphical improvements are not that big a deal because HDR is still not being recognize with my particular TV configuration (even though the TV is HDR). I finally got the photo mode working, but I wouldn't say it's working well either. There's just no upside to playing LE for me over playing the old games right now. For me there were more ups than downs withthe LE so I'll likely stick with it. I basrel yplayed Pinnacle statio anywayso that isn't reall ytha tbig a loss and if I wantto pla yit I have the originals which I'll probably install on my old games section of my PC harddrive if tha tshould happen but I think for the most part i'll be sticking with the LE I'll probably eventually uninstall LE from my Xbox and keep the old games installed. LE is eating up more than 90 GB of my hard drive ATM... space I could use for other games once I'm done with it.
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Post by colfoley on Jun 28, 2021 17:48:12 GMT
LE is well worth it. Bugs in areas I care about have been relatively minor and its actually...so far at least...running far smoother then the OT when you get down to it. I've still only had two crashes/ two game breaking bugs and they were both in ME 1. The biggest dissapointments is they really didn't do enough to improve ME 1 and ME 3. ME 2 was fine but the improvements really weren't that much of an improvement to alter the game fundamentally. All the major problems I had with the game are still there just...maybe slightly blunted here and there. And then they didn't fix ME3s facial animations. They did, seemingly with 1, but I had no idea that Shepard would squint a lot in 3...or the reasons why...until now.
Still having the collection on this generation of consoles with all their improvements plus the PS5 generation, if I should ever get one, is a treat and makes it well worth the price of admission. All the other improvements and one to oneing is just iceing on the cake.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Jun 28, 2021 18:03:00 GMT
LE is well worth it. Bugs in areas I care about have been relatively minor and its actually...so far at least...running far smoother then the OT when you get down to it. I've still only had two crashes/ two game breaking bugs and they were both in ME 1. The biggest dissapointments is they really didn't do enough to improve ME 1 and ME 3. ME 2 was fine but the improvements really weren't that much of an improvement to alter the game fundamentally. All the major problems I had with the game are still there just...maybe slightly blunted here and there. And then they didn't fix ME3s facial animations. They did, seemingly with 1, but I had no idea that Shepard would squint a lot in 3...or the reasons why...until now. Still having the collection on this generation of consoles with all their improvements plus the PS5 generation, if I should ever get one, is a treat and makes it well worth the price of admission. All the other improvements and one to oneing is just iceing on the cake. Yeah other than the fish bug I mentioned I've not really faced any issues or bugs if anything it runs and plays very smooth indeed. For those tha tdon't know I was referrin to this little bug I noticed an took a screenshot of. fish bug by Steven Sharp, on Flickr But yeah this is very muc hworth it as whlist the upgrades despite being small all add up to m et omaking it a better expreience I think. Though tbh I don't think the trilogy needed anything major anyway.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2021 18:16:59 GMT
LE is well worth it. Bugs in areas I care about have been relatively minor and its actually...so far at least...running far smoother then the OT when you get down to it. I've still only had two crashes/ two game breaking bugs and they were both in ME 1. The biggest dissapointments is they really didn't do enough to improve ME 1 and ME 3. ME 2 was fine but the improvements really weren't that much of an improvement to alter the game fundamentally. All the major problems I had with the game are still there just...maybe slightly blunted here and there. And then they didn't fix ME3s facial animations. They did, seemingly with 1, but I had no idea that Shepard would squint a lot in 3...or the reasons why...until now. Still having the collection on this generation of consoles with all their improvements plus the PS5 generation, if I should ever get one, is a treat and makes it well worth the price of admission. All the other improvements and one to oneing is just iceing on the cake. In ME3 LE, I had a huge problem with enemies going down and staying downed, but alive and also enemies winding up alive in inaccessible areas. For example of the latter, I had to restart Priority Palaven twice becaause hitting a husk while coming in on the shuttle caused them to be downed below the cliff and unable to get up and continue to climb. With enemies still registering, the Turian wouldn't speak and the gate to the compound wouldn't open. Using Liara's singularity, more often than not, results in enemies getting stuck in all sorts of places... with my having to seek out and finish off numerous enemies downed behind cover all over the battlefield before I could progress in the missions. This was a rare occurrence for me in the old games, but became very irritatingly common in the LE.
Hopefully, they'll do some more bug fixes and that might improve things a bit. One big difference is that I do have the entire Trilogy on the Xbox One (and it will probably be backwards compatible on the Xbox X as well). I can see where PS users would see the LE as a big plus over what they had, but that's less of an issue on the Xbox. All it does really is add the step of having to go through the launcher before you can start one of the 3 gaames. With the old games, you don't have to even do that.
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Post by mtheillusive on Jun 28, 2021 18:21:38 GMT
I just realized something....about Mass Effect 1. So let me get this straight (from the perspective of an in universe civilian or soldier): *Humans have been on the galactic front for less than 30 years. About 25 give or take. *The Geth, who have not been seen outside the veil in centuries after the Morning War, just randomly decide to attack humanity, whom have only been on the galactic front 25 or so years. *Not only do the Geth attack, but they have a MASSIVE ship that in both size and powers surpasses anything and everything known to Citadel space. *There may or may not be a rouge spectre involved. Which is kind of just extra, because the Geth have randomly decided to attack humanity, who have only been with the Citadel Species for 25 or 26 years. Now, if that doesn't put an IMMEDIATE alarm to the Citadel Council...what they hell are they there for?!?! Instead of gathering every fleet in Citadel space, their all like "well we aren't going to risk war over a few human colonies nuked by the Geth..." BRUH WTF!!!! Literally every Citadel species should be on Red Alert from the jump. Saren or no Saren. Geth came out to attack and people act like its just another Tuesday. And to think I used to be nice and save these ***hats to keep galactic peace. Shame on me
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Post by colfoley on Jun 28, 2021 18:22:17 GMT
LE is well worth it. Bugs in areas I care about have been relatively minor and its actually...so far at least...running far smoother then the OT when you get down to it. I've still only had two crashes/ two game breaking bugs and they were both in ME 1. The biggest dissapointments is they really didn't do enough to improve ME 1 and ME 3. ME 2 was fine but the improvements really weren't that much of an improvement to alter the game fundamentally. All the major problems I had with the game are still there just...maybe slightly blunted here and there. And then they didn't fix ME3s facial animations. They did, seemingly with 1, but I had no idea that Shepard would squint a lot in 3...or the reasons why...until now. Still having the collection on this generation of consoles with all their improvements plus the PS5 generation, if I should ever get one, is a treat and makes it well worth the price of admission. All the other improvements and one to oneing is just iceing on the cake. In ME3 LE, I had a huge problem with enemies going down and staying downed, but alive and also enemies winding up alive in inaccessible areas. For example of the latter, I had to restart Priority Palaven twice becaause hitting a husk while coming in on the shuttle caused them to be downed below the cliff and unable to get up and continue to climb. With enemies still registering, the Turian wouldn't speak and the gate to the compound wouldn't open. Using Liara's singularity, more often than not, results in enemies getting stuck in all sorts of places... with my having to seek out and finish off numerous enemies downed behind cover all over the battlefield before I could progress in the missions. This was a rare occurrence for me in the old games, but became very irritatingly common in the LE.
Hopefully, they'll do some more bug fixes and that might improve things a bit. One big difference is that I do have the entire Trilogy on the Xbox One (and it will probably be backwards compatible on the Xbox X as well). I can see where PS users would see the LE as a big plus over what they had, but that's less of an issue on the Xbox. All it does really is add the step of having to go through the launcher before you can start one of the 3 gaames. With the old games, you don't have to even do that.
I mean the further trouble is I am just not getting these bugs either. Only instance I have had of someone phasing through the environment was during Purgatory and even then a couple of blasts from my Mattock finished him off right quick. Now I have put far more hours into the OGs then the LE so this might not be a one to one comparison but so far both as an aggregate whole and individual games the games have been way less buggy in the 'game breaking' category. Less times I have had to reset, less times its crashed, or pure immersion breaking. Though i suppose the more I think about it I might have had less issue with classic 1.
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Post by Unicephalon 40-D on Jun 28, 2021 18:27:57 GMT
At this point I feel they did fix ME1 the most, which is fine by me, but lets see when 3rd one comes if they fixed anything in it. Mostly if the combat is now on good level or do I still get stuck to everything etc... Some of the faces and their animations are hilarious today, more than anything in MEA before patches, but for me they never were a problem. Now the Legion mission next, I'm gonna just walk over the glowing lines on the ground
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Post by colfoley on Jun 28, 2021 18:31:24 GMT
At this point I feel they did fix ME1 the most, which is fine by me, but lets see when 3rd one comes if they fixed anything in it. Mostly if the combat is now on good level or do I still get stuck to everything etc... Some of the faces and their animations are hilarious today, more than anything in MEA before patches, but for me they never were a problem. Now the Legion mission next, I'm gonna just walk over the glowing lines on the ground This is definitley a hind sight thing since I don't think I fully noticed or appreciated how bad it was but now that you mention it you are right. "Your face is tired." Says the Shepard through eyes so squinty they look like they are closed...
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