Mass Effect Legendary Edition (General Discussion)

Gods? Ha. Yet those so-called gods were controlled by thing that made them look stupid in this cycle.

Should never have explained the reapers... and used the dark energy plot hints as an eventual weapon instead of doom.

Or both... the Scourge from Andromeda would be a great “well it killed the reapers buuuuuuutt”.

Please reread:





I even underlined the most important part.

Whatever makes you happy.

Just quoting to say your avatar makes me happy, and I laughed when I zoomed it (on mobile as usual) as I wasn't sure what was going on until then. Bravo

I thought Bahak was the alternate plan. The Reapers were supposed to storm the Citadel but Shepard ruined that plan. Hence, they decided on Bahak, which was also wrecked.

In reality, the Reapers shouldn't even have bothered with the relays. It's took them no more than six months to go from dark space to Earth. They would do what they ended up doing and attack every major center as they went. The main target was, as Udina said, Earth, since the Reapers planned to harvest humanity to create a new Reaper. Nothing indicated they had the same plan for the other races.

..... you really go out of your way to miss the point. I am not saying to use their original idea but to alter it so that it turns out dark energy can be the weapon to take down the Reapers. And you can even have it so the galactic readiness determines how successful it is... from failure, to losing multiple star systems, maybe even earth, by causing degradation in stars, all the way to fully harnessing dark energy with little negative consequences.

And just leave the Reapers as full Cthulhu homages and never explain them. It would be far better than the hot mess of an ending they shat out.

Warning: long rant

So started ME3LE. Sigh, the tutorial part is terribad for me still. Graphics have crushed blacks (calibration seems to be same as in other LE games, -4 or -5 depending on how bright the livingroom is, for my telly) and some faces look like potatoes that fists have pounded buuut thats the way it is in OT. Seriously the faces are way worse in OT than in MEA, they dont have enough expression and most have dead eyes looking somewhere else. Lighting comes lagging behind the scene changes as it did in original.

I chose second hardest difficulty for starters, I think its Hardcore.

Imported Adept from 2LE with 22 points available. Double Throw. You can just spam this skill and be done with it in the beginning. In Mars let Liara singularity the ... forgot enemy name already ... cerberus shield idiots and then double throw again and again...
Like in ME2LE one can spam shockwave, here we can spam double throw which has near zero cooldown. Amazing. Ah yes, global cooldown - thankfully we got rid of this already.

I forgot how little in the beginning one has to say to about anything, its just small corridor areas with combat mostly. Now combat, its better than in ME3 original, but it still exhibits some of the same flaws:

- Getting stuck to geometry: This is mostly fixed but still happens in some combat areas, one can get stuck to edge of something while running and this means you'll probably die there.
- Running/Walking switch throws camera from time to time around and you'll lose control every time. I really hated this. Its still there.
- Movement is still janky, I feel its more janky than in ME1LE.
- Powers and some guns are immediately OP. Balance is totally wrong in the beginning already I think.
- All the fights feel like they're snacks while camping behind cover (camping because movement is not good for combat) - I compared to MEA where you must actually work for the combat because enemies can come from all the directions (up and down etc.) and areas can be from small to huge.
- Grenade instakills you ... what.
- They buffed the weakling sounds from ME2 for the guns and biotic sounds with large bass expansion plus even higher in gain (read: worse)
- Still some moves are speedup like 100x from what they would really be. MEA did these much more realistically (and slower as one cannot just open M-8 and put a new sink in under a second). Then the sudden speedup/slowdowns like laughable heavy melee - oh man the rule of cool goes fast to rule of meh&laugh.
(- the one who thought the combat engine would be good enough to put into use as it is in multiplayer was crazy .. ok joking joking)

Well ok lets just say MEA did combat so freaking much better its not even funny anymore!

Good things:
- There is some banter, I had forgotten this. Great. Especially like going on with Liara
- Mars music by Sam Hulick
- Some of the visuals look good when not overly crushed by blacks
- Shepard actually goes around some of the level geometry more smoothly
- Liara is back as squad member.

All in all I feel the same as with ME2 - these two games are more like cartoony/toyish versions of 1 which one can smash through fast just for corridor combat.

I will continue playing today, until I wont
Personally, I like OT still but after DAI & MEA the realisations have been very eye opening, how rudimentary these are but 3rd one does some good progress in some areas, which DAI & MEA took to another level completely.

yeah there is actually a lot more depth and time spent talking with your companions in 3 which DAI expanded upon, then MEA crushed.

That was kind of how I fel twhen I said hello to the Geth Turret in Overlord for the firsttime of cours enow I know how to handle mysel fand deal with it now. It still gets m efrom timet otime but now that I have a strategy tha tworks I think I can be more patient with it. It's one of the main reasons wh yI used cheats on i toriginall yt owork around it. Thankfully I don' t need those anymore

Death by grenade or Cerberus Turret is a feature, not a bug, and certainly not new. ME3 is incredibly easy on Insanity, but these are two of the few ways to get killed quickly.

I'm not sure how death by grenade or turret could ever be considered "buggy" or undesirable. It's working as intended. I want games to push me; and needing to move away from live grenades or avoid turrets is not a terribly high bar.


I do agree that MEA's cover system is vastly superior. No matter how aggressive your build and playstyle, you sometimes grab cover to regen shields or take a second to prep your next move. Ryder glides in and out of cover naturally and seamlessly. He can also swap shoulders. I do it reflexively all the time, both in and out of cover. Being unable to swap hands in the MET is frustrating. It definitely feels primitive by comparison. (For good reason, given the comparative ages and dev sequences of the games.)