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Post by SirSourpuss on Dec 11, 2020 10:38:54 GMT
Well, obviously, I'm not killing myself. But I have no interest in any of these titles. I don't care for 600 years in the future Milky Way. Everything I loved about the franchise is long dead, in that timeline. And I don't care about DA. So maybe I won't be around as much, or for some while, or ever again.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Dec 11, 2020 10:39:06 GMT
She didn’t give us the helmet. We find it among the Normandy’s wreckage. She gives us our old dog tags that she got from Hackett. Really? Wow, I'm entirely misremembering that, then. I remember we were told our brain was intact b/c of our helmet. And I guess my mind just filled in the gaps there and assumed that the helmet was brought to Cerberus along with our body. Cus why remove it on Alchera? But yeah I do recall the gift from Liara being dog tags, now that you mention it. You remember correctly. It was BioWare who forgot so we could have the memento.
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Post by Unicephalon 40-D on Dec 11, 2020 10:42:17 GMT
Here is what Alec Ryder says.
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Post by sageoflife on Dec 11, 2020 10:42:58 GMT
I've heard some people saying it could be between ME1 and 2 and this is Liara getting the body for Cerberus. Then there wouldn't be a dead Reaper in the background, not to mention Liara looking older.
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Post by The Elder King on Dec 11, 2020 11:02:58 GMT
Well, obviously, I'm not killing myself. But I have no interest in any of these titles. I don't care for 600 years in the future Milky Way. Everything I loved about the franchise is long dead, in that timeline. And I don't care about DA. So maybe I won't be around as much, or for some while, or ever again. The 600 years in the future is a conjecture, though, even if it seems a good possibility. But in this case, the ones that want an Andromeda sequel could be somehow ‘safe’ since I doubt they’d go 600 years in the future and focus completely on the MW. In any case, I’m sorry, as I said before for others that wanted different things, plot wise, for the new games. My major concern is the kind to games they’re going to make, and it *seems* they won’t go straight away for the Anthem formula...so far. So I’ll just wait and see what they’re going to offer. I feel bad for those that wanted something differently.
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Post by bshep on Dec 11, 2020 11:03:06 GMT
I've heard some people saying it could be between ME1 and 2 and this is Liara getting the body for Cerberus. Then there wouldn't be a dead Reaper in the background, not to mention Liara looking older. Plus the one she was walking right on top of it. This is set on the future, there is no denying that.
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Post by Pounce de León on Dec 11, 2020 11:49:36 GMT
She can be pregnant when she wants. She has all memories stored. Who cares when some Shepard romanced some Bantha in someone's fantasy - the trilogy went down the drain and a story has to be written. That's not how asari reproduction works. At all. Well it does now. Deal with it.
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Post by Andrew Waples on Dec 11, 2020 11:58:21 GMT
Well, obviously, I'm not killing myself. But I have no interest in any of these titles. I don't care for 600 years in the future Milky Way. Everything I loved about the franchise is long dead, in that timeline. And I don't care about DA. So maybe I won't be around as much, or for some while, or ever again. Don't let the door hit you on the way out.
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Post by coldsteelblue on Dec 11, 2020 12:02:23 GMT
Just seen the teaser, looks good, a lot of questions come to mind, the main one being how long will we have to wait?
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Post by Adia on Dec 11, 2020 12:05:08 GMT
I've heard some people saying it could be between ME1 and 2 and this is Liara getting the body for Cerberus. With the destroyed reapers? and the destroyed relays? and the giant dead Reaper on the planet Liara is on? Unlikely which is good for me Looks like many of the old Bioware veterans are back! This gives me confidence.
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Post by Atemporal Vanguardian-Debugger on Dec 11, 2020 12:05:08 GMT
Yeah, it sounds like they're going to tie the two together... somehow. Maybe that's what the concept art of relays being built were for? There's a segment of audio I can't make out that starts at about 0:51 in the Mass Effect trailer. Can anyone make that out? Close to 0:51, it sounds like Liara is saying "You are not leaving us all behind!". Kind of similar to her goodbye to Shepard during the beam run potentially? The voice after sounds too distorted and deep to make out. I hear that too but also there is a second line of dialog that sounds like it is running simultaneous to the first. "Your not leaving us behind" and in behind it is being said: "The Anomaly is spreading across space."
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Post by Atemporal Vanguardian-Debugger on Dec 11, 2020 12:07:43 GMT
I have... questions:
Is it Shepard in first person view we are viewing this from? Is that why Liara -if really her turns our way and smiles?
Or is it more subtle? I mean we hear audio from the 20th century. I know that it takes time for sound like everything else to travel the stars... Are we viewing this from something traveling into the Milky Way from outside and hearing what it hears?
Noting that our view is also moving IN toward the Milky Way OPPOSITE the Andromeda -which we see. Could something from Triangulum be playing a part this time? Or just theatrical license to give a scale of feeling?
Which also brings up another point of contention... Wasn't the Citadel above Earth in the final act of ME3 -no matter the choice? So shouldn't the helmet debris be on Earth? And Liara is walking on a world that is a moon to a Gas Giant. Unless Earth now orbits a Gas Giant. OR unless this is taking place at least 600-800 years in the future and the helmet has transferred locations many times... I mean she was very young by Asari standards during the Reaper War so she could live nearly a millennium of time gone by.
Ok. Brain. Be. Still...
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Post by The Elder King on Dec 11, 2020 12:07:48 GMT
Just seen the teaser, looks good, a lot of questions come to mind, the main one being how long will we have to wait? Three year minimum, and that’s if DA4 is released in 2022 as planned. Which I wouldn’t bet on it with the pandemic. Which based on the abysmal TGA of this year (even by normal standards), is something that it’s clearly affecting the whole industry.
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Post by SofaJockey on Dec 11, 2020 12:15:47 GMT
A dozen pages of debate in a few hours. Good to see BSN being busy. I'm looking forward to whatever it is.
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Post by ShadowAngel on Dec 11, 2020 12:19:15 GMT
My interest in ME isn't to high really because I just don't believe bioware is capable anymore, that said in regards to what I want in a new game: I just know I don't want to see the previous characters and protagonist from Andromeda because they were that bad to me, I'm perfectly ok with another Andromeda if they time skip to where the colonies have grown. I also won't mind another milky way game as it still has a lot of potential just as any other Galaxy would.
What I will say since people are talking on it: if they do canonize an ending I believe it has to be destroy. I also know at this point no matter what they do, not everyone's going to be happy but I mean, you can't please everyone to begin with🤷. I believe bioware should just choose what they want to do and hopefully it's something they feel confident in that they're capable of doing it. The ME3 crap is history at this point, people are already unhappy about it so screw it if they canonize an ending, the perception of choice wasn't there to begin with so meh.
I believe at this point bioware just needs to regain an audience because they've lost so much already, most people have already moved on from them because of their last 10 year history and they're just going to keep struggling with what they have trying to please a mixed fanbase that has tried sticking around. It's pretty clear just reading this thread alone that there will be people that won't be happy with whatever bioware ends up doing.
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Post by LadyofNemesis on Dec 11, 2020 12:22:35 GMT
*sigh* ...loved the trailer, but then they showed Liara...and I'm like
Though she does look older here...which probably means the old cast (aside from her and maybe Grunt/Wrex/Wreav) will not be returning.
I am curious about the new game though...looks interesting so far
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Post by Heimdall on Dec 11, 2020 12:24:32 GMT
There’s a possibility here that Gamble’s post means this really is an Andromeda sequel. It’s possible that Liara either decades or centuries after ME3 has organized a new ark.
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Post by The Elder King on Dec 11, 2020 12:26:53 GMT
My interest in ME isn't to high really because I just don't believe bioware is capable anymore, that said in regards to what I want in a new game: I just know I don't want to see the previous characters and protagonist from Andromeda because they were that bad to me, I'm perfectly ok with another Andromeda if they time skip to where the colonies have grown. I also won't mind another milky way game as it still has a lot of potential just as any other Galaxy would. What I will say since people are talking on it: if they do canonize an ending I believe it has to be destroy. I also know at this point no matter what they do, not everyone's going to be happy but I mean, you can't please everyone to begin with🤷. I believe bioware should just choose what they want to do and hopefully it's something they feel confident in that they're capable of doing it. The ME3 crap is history at this point, people are already unhappy about it so screw it if they canonize an ending, the perception of choice wasn't there to begin with so meh. I believe at this point bioware just needs to regain an audience because they've lost so much already, most people have already moved on from them because of their last 10 year history and they're just going to keep struggling with what they have trying to please a mixed fanbase that has tried sticking around. It's pretty clear just reading this thread alone that there will be people that won't be happy with whatever bioware ends up doing. There are dead Reapers in the teaser, so if they picked an ending to canonize, it’s clearly Destroy. I think it’s impossible to make any likely theory of what will go on in the next ME at this stage because they’re being intentionally vague. The only thing they confirmed is that there was a Reaper in the shot where Liara was walking. They’re then liking and tweeting about different theories (Gamble liked a tweet thanking them for continuing from ME3...which I’m not sure a 600 flash forwards would classify as such). They *seem* to have a clear idea in mind, but they don’t want to clarify anything at this point, which I get it. Hopefully they won’t wait until 2022 before revealing more...but I think there are some chances for a teaser or something around the line being placed inside the Legendary Edition, given that regardless of what NME will be about, a connection with the old trilogy is somehow present.
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Post by The Elder King on Dec 11, 2020 12:28:14 GMT
There’s a possibility here that Gamble’s post means this really is an Andromeda sequel. It’s possible that Liara either decades or centuries after ME3 has organized a new ark. It could be anything, because he also liked a tweet about continuing from ME3. He’s intentionally keeping all options open.
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Post by Adia on Dec 11, 2020 12:41:15 GMT
Liara might look older because this is a 4k close up of a CGI trailer so you get to see more of her facial imperfections. The whole thing just looks like it happens right after the events of ME3 - otherwise why would they show the freshly destroyed relays, the people struggling at comms, and the completely destroyed Citadel? You'd figure after some time people would start to rebuild.
Liara picking up the N7 logo. It's Shepard's, not Ryder. Senior Ryder died on Habitant 7, and last time I checked there were no Reapers in the Andromeda galaxy, let alone on that planet. And if it's Ryder Jr's, what the hell are they doing in the milky way? So yeah, that's Shepard.
I REALLY struggle to believe this is set in the far future.
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Post by The Elder King on Dec 11, 2020 12:53:12 GMT
Liara might look older because this is a 4k close up of a CGI trailer so you get to see more of her facial imperfections. The whole thing just looks like it happens right after the events of ME3 - otherwise why would they show the freshly destroyed relays, the people struggling at comms, and the completely destroyed Citadel? You'd figure after some time people would start to rebuild. Liara picking up the N7 logo. It's Shepard's, not Ryder. Senior Ryder died on Habitant 7, and last time I checked there were no Reapers in the Andromeda galaxy, let alone on that planet. And if it's Ryder Jr's, what the hell are they doing in the milky way? So yeah, that's Shepard. I REALLY struggle to believe this is set in the far future. They made references to Andromeda though, with Ark 6, Godspeed and the two galaxies clashing. Could it mean nothing? Absolutely. We simply don’t know because they wanted to keep things vague, and they intentionally made references to Andromeda, as well as hiding stuff in the teaser, apparently. The fact that at first it looks like a direct continuation of ME3 (although Shepard’s remains/pieces of armour from ME3 shoudn’t be found on what it looks like Archera), was certainly the first thing to come to mind after the teaser. Liara’s presence alone lead to that ‘conclusion’. But it’s clear now that they dropped hints of a connection between the two galaxies and stories. We don’t know for a true connection between the trilogy and Andromeda, or for something else.
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Post by Conquer Your Dreams on Dec 11, 2020 12:58:36 GMT
BiOWare please - don't bring Shep back. His/her story is finished. Just connect Milky Way route 700 years after Reapers with Liara as a Matron in charge (and Grunt as a her bodyguard) with the threat that Ryder's found in Andromeda. That will do.
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Post by alanc9 on Dec 11, 2020 13:01:06 GMT
Well, obviously, I'm not killing myself. But I have no interest in any of these titles. I don't care for 600 years in the future Milky Way. Everything I loved about the franchise is long dead, in that timeline. And I don't care about DA. So maybe I won't be around as much, or for some while, or ever again. Everything? Which things did you love?
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Post by souljahbill14 on Dec 11, 2020 13:12:18 GMT
If this is post-war, there’s gonna be trouble. There’s too much toothpaste out of the tube for a starting point that due she canonize multiple decisions, invalidating so many people’s choices.
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