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Pie-in-the-sky theory: If it's not a transgalactic relay bridging Andromeda with the Milky Way, perhaps it's a ship?

"Mass Runner 7"?

It does look different to the Reaper relays. I got it! Its a relay that transports you through time rather than space!

OK Refusal ending canon, Andromeda people need to go back in time, with the help of Liara, to undo Shepard's failure.

Not only both galaxies brought together but both teams also! Everyone wins!! /s

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Pie-in-the-sky theory: If it's not a transgalactic relay bridging Andromeda with the Milky Way, perhaps it's a ship?

"Mass Runner 7"?

With a Relay Drive Core, able to propel it wherever in the galaxy. Makes sense. In spite of what we saw, as I understand it, the Mudskipper is our Mako/Nomad replacement, not our actual ship. Think more like Hammerhead, but less out of glass.

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Dec 12, 2020 22:08:11 GMT SirSourpuss said:

Pie-in-the-sky theory: If it's not a transgalactic relay bridging Andromeda with the Milky Way, perhaps it's a ship?

"Mass Runner 7"?

With a Relay Drive Core, able to propel it wherever in the galaxy. Makes sense. In spite of what we saw, as I understand it, the Mudskipper is our Mako/Nomad replacement, not our actual ship. Think more like Hammerhead, but less out of glass.

Yeah, the Mud Skipper definitely strikes me as a heavy shuttle (and as you say, our Mako replacement) and not our main vessel.

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Maybe a pair of mass relays are set up that link the Milky Way with Andromeda, but it accidentally introduces the Scourge to the MW. We then have to split our time between damage control in the MW and investigating the source of the Scourge in Andromeda.
It would establish a threat to the galaxy fit to follow the Reapers, and explain why Liara is involved, as we know she has an interest in studying precursor civilisations. It would also make an effort to tie up some of the loose ends set up in MEA.

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Dec 12, 2020 22:07:07 GMT trengilly said:

Pie-in-the-sky theory: If it's not a transgalactic relay bridging Andromeda with the Milky Way, perhaps it's a ship?

"Mass Runner 7"?

It does look different to the Reaper relays. I got it! Its a relay that transports you through time rather than space!

OK Refusal ending canon, Andromeda people need to go back in time, with the help of Liara, to undo Shepard's failure.

Not only both galaxies brought together but both teams also! Everyone wins!! /s

I wouldn't put time travel out of the question. It seems all the big franchises that are facing some kind of trouble are using time travel to alter timelines and reboot themselves. Star Wars has those rumours about the Veil of the Force and Palpy, the MCU did time travel and soon AUs with the Multiverse, Star Trek (2009) did a reboot using Time Travel and a AU, DC is going to use Flashpoint in the DC movie universe to introduce AUs and time travel. It's the hip new thing.

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Dec 12, 2020 18:05:54 GMT The Elder King said:

Something to point out, not to start a discussion on the popularity of the series but on why it happened, but the NME teaser is being watched far more then the DA4 one in their respective channels, the former almost triplicating the views of the latter.

Not to negate this in full -- I concur that Mass Effect is the more popular of the two franchises -- but I think there's something to be said for the fact that there's more inherent hype in the Mass Effect trailer on multiple levels. For one thing, it's more unexpected. For another, it's simply a better trailer. As an important extension of that, it strives to cash in on some serious nostalgia from long-time fans. It's a recipe for going viral. The DA4 trailer is fine but it doesn't have those advantages. We already knew the Dread Wolf is coming. That can't remotely compare. And I cite all of this as relevant because a not-inconsiderable number of these views are always going to consist of rewatches from the same ardent fans. There's just not as much oomph involved in the Dragon Age trailer.

Again, I don't disagree about a popularity gap. I just think that, had the Dragon Age trailer come close to eliciting similarly "wowza" feelings from fans, the official trailer would be sitting closer to 600k by now rather than 370k and counting.

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Dec 12, 2020 18:02:34 GMT N7Pathfinder said:

Dec 12, 2020 17:24:45 GMT Atemporal Vanguardian-Debugger said:

0:08 - We know now that in the early years of the 20th century, this world was being watched. (No idea about this)

Could this imply the Salarians were watching?

Thought I read something about this in some book or heard it in one of the games -they were watching us early on.

0:54 - (Some whispers I cannot decipher)

Let me help that:

0:52-0:53:

"The Anomaly is spreading across space."

This could be a reference to the scourge.

I had the theory, that the scourge in the Andromeda galaxy is a byproduct of using the crucible in the Milky Way.

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Dec 12, 2020 22:47:51 GMT Quinton O'Connor said:

Dec 12, 2020 18:05:54 GMT The Elder King said:

Something to point out, not to start a discussion on the popularity of the series but on why it happened, but the NME teaser is being watched far more then the DA4 one in their respective channels, the former almost triplicating the views of the latter.

Not to negate this in full -- I concur that Mass Effect is the more popular of the two franchises -- but I think there's something to be said for the fact that there's more inherent hype in the Mass Effect trailer on multiple levels. For one thing, it's more unexpected. For another, it's simply a better trailer. As an important extension of that, it strives to cash in on some serious nostalgia from long-time fans. It's a recipe for going viral. The DA4 trailer is fine but it doesn't have those advantages. We already knew the Dread Wolf is coming. That can't remotely compare. And I cite all of this as relevant because a not-inconsiderable number of these views are always going to consist of rewatches from the same ardent fans. There's just not as much oomph involved in the Dragon Age trailer.

Again, I don't disagree about a popularity gap. I just think that, had the Dragon Age trailer come close to eliciting similarly "wowza" feelings from fans, the official trailer would be sitting closer to 600k by now rather than 370k and counting.

I think that might be my issue with the DA4 teaser. We already know what they are teasing and in fact, have already been teased about this same thing for years. The next trailer needs to bring something really new and unexpected.

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Dec 12, 2020 18:02:34 GMT N7Pathfinder said:

This could be a reference to the scourge.

I had the theory, that the scourge in the Andromeda galaxy is a byproduct of using the crucible in the Milky Way.

It has been some time but doesn't MEA state that the scourge was the result of something that happened locally in the Heleus cluster?

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Post by The Elder King on Dec 12, 2020 23:10:43 GMT

Dec 12, 2020 18:56:09 GMT SirSourpuss said:

Dec 12, 2020 18:29:41 GMT ahglock said:

The easiest reason is people are seeing more age than is supposed to be there. I have more crows feet on my ryder and hes like 24. Its art in a trailer, the artist very easily may not have been trying to represent age at all from those lines. That is peoples interpretations form a 2 second bit.

I don't know. You can see the wrinkling in her cheeks, even before she smiles.

Dec 12, 2020 18:13:37 GMT The Elder King said:

Something to point out, not to start a discussion on the popularity of the series but on why it happened, but the NME teaser is being watched far more then the DA4 one in their respective channels, the former almost triplicating the views of the latter.

I've said several times that the interest in DA is at an all time low and even less than ME. There is basically no DA conversation, outside of targeted fandoms. Even here the DA discussion died the moment the ME trailer popped up. Which is why I keep saying that Bioware hoping to turn things around with DA isn't going to happen and that DA being the "best selling" Bioware game is very skewed. You might see Anthem overtake it in the next year, before even the relaunch. Which will be for the exact same reasons why DA:I is the best selling Bioware game.

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I’d say the NME teaser, for being a teaser, is doing rather well. I do think that for DA4, the fact that they announced it two years ago and waited more then a year before showing something likely caused some indifference to the project. They need to come out with something more substantial next year...and likewise, even if with little droplets of info, keep feeding the NME ‘hype’.

That’s aside the fact that ME is likely more ‘popular’ as a whole then DA. And that they made people thing we’d get something more then a teaser for DA.

Dec 12, 2020 22:08:11 GMT SirSourpuss said:

Pie-in-the-sky theory: If it's not a transgalactic relay bridging Andromeda with the Milky Way, perhaps it's a ship?

"Mass Runner 7"?

With a Relay Drive Core, able to propel it wherever in the galaxy. Makes sense. In spite of what we saw, as I understand it, the Mudskipper is our Mako/Nomad replacement, not our actual ship. Think more like Hammerhead, but less out of glass.

Given the style of the Mud Skipper, it’d have been quite weird, to me, if that was our main ship.

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Dec 12, 2020 18:02:34 GMT N7Pathfinder said:

This could be a reference to the scourge.

I had the theory, that the scourge in the Andromeda galaxy is a byproduct of using the crucible in the Milky Way.

That is a reach.

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Post by traks on Dec 12, 2020 23:18:30 GMT

Dec 12, 2020 23:08:17 GMT bshep said:

I had the theory, that the scourge in the Andromeda galaxy is a byproduct of using the crucible in the Milky Way.

It has been some time but doesn't MEA state that the scourge was the result of something that happened locally in the Heleus cluster?

Not entirely sure right now, but how would they know? We didn't 'look' outside that cluster and only know for sure that it happened around the time the crucible was used. Just a wild theory though, when I thought about how could you combine both plots. More likely it has nothing to do with it though, because in Andromeda it was thought of being a reason for the Jaardan's departure in its own battle with an unknown enemy.

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Post by SirSourpuss on Dec 12, 2020 23:18:46 GMT

Dec 12, 2020 23:12:29 GMT The Elder King said:

I’d say the NME teaser, for being a teaser, is doing rather well. I do think that for DA4, the fact that they announced it two years ago and waited more then a year before showing something likely caused some indifference to the project. They need to come out with something more substantial next year...and likewise, even if with little droplets of info, keep feeding the NME ‘hype’.

That’s aside the fact that ME is likely more ‘popular’ as a whole then DA. And that they made people thing we’d get something more then a teaser for DA.

Just for comparison's sake, the 2018 DA teaser has 1.6 million views on the official channel, in 2 years. The ME5 teaser has 1.2 million views in 2 days. And, of course, the bulk of the views will happen early on, rather than later, but the ME5 teaser only has to do 400k views in 2 years minus 2 days to tie it.

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Dec 12, 2020 23:17:16 GMT Croatsky said:

I had the theory, that the scourge in the Andromeda galaxy is a byproduct of using the crucible in the Milky Way.

That is a reach.

Of course. It would be a good reason for Liara's interest though. And a nice way to tell players, yeah, you solved one conflict, but by using tech you didn't fully understand and didn't know what kind of byproducts it'll have.

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Dec 12, 2020 23:18:46 GMT SirSourpuss said:

Dec 12, 2020 23:12:29 GMT The Elder King said:

I’d say the NME teaser, for being a teaser, is doing rather well. I do think that for DA4, the fact that they announced it two years ago and waited more then a year before showing something likely caused some indifference to the project. They need to come out with something more substantial next year...and likewise, even if with little droplets of info, keep feeding the NME ‘hype’.

That’s aside the fact that ME is likely more ‘popular’ as a whole then DA. And that they made people thing we’d get something more then a teaser for DA.

Just for comparison's sake, the 2018 DA teaser has 1.6 million views on the official channel, in 2 years. The ME5 teaser has 1.2 million views in 2 days. And, of course, the bulk of the views will happen early on, rather than later, but the ME5 teaser only has to do 400k views in 2 years minus 2 days to tie it.

It’s also fair to notice that the 2018 teaser was just a concept art. Putting aside ME being more popular, I think having Liara in it was clearly going to make people at least curious about it...if anything else, for the implications of her presence (a question on the difference of the two teasers, though: would the NME indicate that they’re ‘deeper’ in the project then the DA team was in 2018?)

Which gets me to the fact that a lot of the hype could be generated by people thinking the next game will be a sequel to the trilogy. Which might very well be, but not necessarily in a way people think it’d be.

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It’s also fair to notice that the 2018 teaser was just a concept. Putting aside ME being more popular, I think having Liara in it was clearly going to make people at least curious about it...if anything else, for the implications of her presence.

It's looking increasingly like nothing DA does would make it more popular than ME.

Which gets me to the fact that a lot of the hype could be generated by people thinking the next game will be a sequel to the trilogy. Which might very well be, but not necessarily in a way people think it’d be.

Technically, any game after ME3, in the timeline, is a sequel to ME3, regardless of whether it addresses ME3.

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Dec 12, 2020 23:18:46 GMT SirSourpuss said:

Just for comparison's sake, the 2018 DA teaser has 1.6 million views on the official channel, in 2 years. The ME5 teaser has 1.2 million views in 2 days. And, of course, the bulk of the views will happen early on, rather than later, but the ME5 teaser only has to do 400k views in 2 years minus 2 days to tie it.

It’s also fair to notice that the 2018 teaser was just a concept art. Putting aside ME being more popular, I think having Liara in it was clearly going to make people at least curious about it...if anything else, for the implications of her presence (a question on the difference of the two teasers, though: would the NME indicate that they’re ‘deeper’ in the project then the DA team was in 2018?)

Which gets me to the fact that a lot of the hype could be generated by people thinking the next game will be a sequel to the trilogy. Which might very well be, but not necessarily in a way people think it’d be.

Yeah. Like I've said elsewhere, it's not that I disagree that Mass Effect's more popular than Dragon Age; however, the 370k-versus-1.2-million comparison is a bit rough IMO since Mass Effect delivered something vivid, largely unexpected, and smothered in the sort of nostalgia that many fans have longed for. DA4's art gallery and Brian Bloom voice-acting is nice and all, but it's got nothing on what was achieved with NME.

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Dec 12, 2020 23:27:57 GMT SirSourpuss said:

It’s also fair to notice that the 2018 teaser was just a concept. Putting aside ME being more popular, I think having Liara in it was clearly going to make people at least curious about it...if anything else, for the implications of her presence.

It's looking increasingly like nothing DA does would make it more popular than ME.

Which gets me to the fact that a lot of the hype could be generated by people thinking the next game will be a sequel to the trilogy. Which might very well be, but not necessarily in a way people think it’d be.

Technically, any game after ME3, in the timeline, is a sequel to ME3, regardless of whether it addresses ME3.

I don’t think DA needs to be more popular then ME to be successful...though to be honest, all the issues with the franchise started because EA didn’t think it’d be as popular as ME and wanted to make a quick sequel that was more action based. Regardless of the gameplay, have they waited for DAO’s sales, they might’ve given BioWare more, proper time to develop DA2. As much blame BioWare gets for recent struggles, DA2’s problems were all on EA.

And yes, but some people obviously think it’d be a more direct sequel. I guess they might end disappointed in the end.

Could you reply, if you can, about what I edited in the post you quoted, about the different status of the teams based on their initial teasers, in 2018 and 2020?

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