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Post by Grog Muffins on Dec 14, 2020 18:26:31 GMT
This trailer shows Liara on her way to meet the Andromeda Initiative, as we can see PeeBee and co. in the background. The middle figure has a full helmet with full shiny glass like the AI ones (look at the top of their head, it shines in the light). Last time I looked through the entire series, no Asari ever wore more than a breather mask over their mouths and noses, not even to protect their eyes. Hell, Liara isn't wearing any head gear at all. From there, right when you see "Mass Effect will continue" you see Liara's and the Initiatives crafts flying away together, at the top right of the screen, presumably going back to Andromeda. I don't know where you say you see 2 crafts but there are none, that's either lens flares or space rocks.
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Post by alanc9 on Dec 14, 2020 18:27:58 GMT
Exactly...it can't be Mordin, but guess what? THAT IS MORDIN's CHARACTER MODEL. Just like you swearing it's Peebee means absolutely nothing. Their placeholders fam. I'd like to hope you're right. I'd love to. I still don't see why that's supposed to be PeeBee. I think that's highly unlikely wherever the game is set. It just wouldn't be ME without an asari LI for the new protagonist, and there's no way that Bio's going to serve up Shepard or Ryder's sloppy seconds in that role. Liara wouldn't be. But it's right up Bioware's alley for a Ryder sequel. *shrugs* You told us Ryder wasn't coming back as the PC. Did I miss a retraction?
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Post by Little Bengel on Dec 14, 2020 18:32:30 GMT
At this point, it's looking more and more likely that sirpetrakus is either tripping hard, or trolling y'all.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Dec 14, 2020 18:34:17 GMT
The middle figure has a full helmet with full shiny glass like the AI ones (look at the top of their head, it shines in the light). Last time I looked through the entire series, no Asari ever wore more than a breather mask over their mouths and noses, not even to protect their eyes It doesn't look like that, to me. But again, nothing would make me happier, than being wrong. I don't know where you say you see 2 crafts but there are none, that's either lens flares or space rocks. There are two moving objects a little above and to the right for the word Effect in the trailer. Too small to make out a craft, but I doubt Mike would put two space rocks. It's definitely not lens flare.
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Post by N7Pathfinder on Dec 14, 2020 18:36:54 GMT
He didn't want to find anything, because does not care, and wants you to know that really bad. I do care, though. Just not what Bioware wants to serve me. And I gotta admit, I got played by them, here. As a lot of things I were told, weren't entirely honest. You wanna know what I do care about? A direct ME3 sequel with Shepard and co. set after a high EMS destroy ending. This trailer shows Liara on her way to meet the Andromeda Initiative, as we can see PeeBee and co. in the background. From there, right when you see "Mass Effect will continue" you see Liara's and the Initiatives crafts flying away together, at the top right of the screen, presumably going back to Andromeda. I am not thrilled with this direction. I'd say I am the exact opposite of thrilled with this direction and I think a lot of people will be angry at Mike, for making such a suggestive video, with the N7 helmet and Liara and having nothing to do with Shepard and co., just to bridge Liara over to Andromeda. For all we know this might not be ryder but other characters. How you insist that it's peebee and co I don't know, and for the flying crafts. Where did you see them? I like when you said in other posts that the game is gonna take place in the mw with a new pc, and now you say it's gonna be in andromeda.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Dec 14, 2020 18:38:10 GMT
*shrugs* You told us Ryder wasn't coming back as the PC. Did I miss a retraction? Being played is a very, very big likelihood. Which is what I believe happened. And I do not appreciate it. Of which, yeah, I do owe you guys an apology, if I have mislead you. It was not intentional. At this point, it's looking more and more likely that sirpetrakus is either tripping hard, or trolling y'all. I do hope I be trippin', yo. Let's say strong feelings did get the better of me.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Dec 14, 2020 18:41:40 GMT
For all we know this might not be ryder but other characters. How you insist that it's peebee and co I don't know, and for the flying crafts. Where did you see them? I like when you said in other posts that the game is gonna take place in the mw with a new pc, and now you say it's gonna be in andromeda. Like I said, I do believe I got played here. One side or another.
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Post by N7Pathfinder on Dec 14, 2020 18:50:39 GMT
For all we know this might not be ryder but other characters. How you insist that it's peebee and co I don't know, and for the flying crafts. Where did you see them? I like when you said in other posts that the game is gonna take place in the mw with a new pc, and now you say it's gonna be in andromeda. Like I said, I do believe I got played here. One side or another. Whoever "told you" is under nda you know? It makes sense if he works for bioware.
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Post by xMissWoox on Dec 14, 2020 18:52:00 GMT
Personally I don't see it. I see a Salarian, a Human and a Krogan. But the game is likely so far away I doubt they even have character designs, let alone character models, aside from Liara's.
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Post by N7Pathfinder on Dec 14, 2020 18:55:37 GMT
This trailer shows Liara on her way to meet the Andromeda Initiative, as we can see PeeBee and co. in the background. The middle figure has a full helmet with full shiny glass like the AI ones (look at the top of their head, it shines in the light). Last time I looked through the entire series, no Asari ever wore more than a breather mask over their mouths and noses, not even to protect their eyes. Hell, Liara isn't wearing any head gear at all. From there, right when you see "Mass Effect will continue" you see Liara's and the Initiatives crafts flying away together, at the top right of the screen, presumably going back to Andromeda. I don't know where you say you see 2 crafts but there are none, that's either lens flares or space rocks. It might be an ai helmet but also not. We don't know unless bioware shows more. It could be something completely different from what we think it is. Most of the times this is what happens.
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Post by Polka Dot on Dec 14, 2020 18:57:53 GMT
I've no idea what to make of this, other than that Bio wants to let the world know that a new ME is a thing.
It's possible that their primary goal is to create excitement around the remaster, as its planned release is approaching.
Personally, I'm not inclined to get excited about anything as far away as I suspect NME is at this point. And can I just say that as much as I find traditional dev crunch a loathsome practice, I also take issue with the length of time that passes between releases lately. The remaster might draw new people and excitement to the franchise, but it's probably not going to help NME much if it's still 6 years away.
Some general comments/impressions about the trailer:
-- The whole thing is really sort of an abbreviated anthology tracing humanity's history as it relates to space exploration. As such, I'm not sure how we are expected to interpret things like the debris around the relay. Did they intend to show us that that happened at some point, or is that the current status?
-- Oh, and is it possible that the wrecked relay could have been the one Shep wrecked during the Arrival?
-- I don't think destroy is necessarily conclusive. The reaper Liara climbs - as well as the one in the background - don't show any obvious signs of damage, and the one in the background still has its claws stuck in the ground. They could be inactive or hibernating or something, post control ending.
-- Also, that Liara's eyes don't glow green isn't conclusive proof that synthesis could not have been chosen. It's entirely possible that the green glow was temporary while the beam traveled through the galaxy.
-- Liara's garments have been mentioned as some sort of signal that she's no longer engaging in combat, but... I noticed that she appears to be wearing shinguards w/ knee protection as she's walking up the reaper, and her boots look armored as she bends over to pick up the artifact. She looks to me like she's wearing as much armor as she ever did under the cloak.
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Post by saMoorai on Dec 14, 2020 19:08:30 GMT
Wait, so now we're hearing it's a Ryder sequel? Really hoping this is true - I love my Ryder a lot, and really want to continue his story and playing as him. I wanna see my boy and everyone in his crew grow and mature.
It also makes me weirdly more accepting of Liara coming back? Like, it's still really forced, but I find the idea of Liara becoming something of a mentor figure for Ryder to be kinda heartwarming - It feels like it'd make for a nice 'passing the torch' moment.
Am curious what all this means for the MW though and how much time would actually be spent there. I always envisioned an Andromeda sequel to be about more Arks built during the Reaper War arriving from the MW carrying as much refugees as they could carry and having to deal with the political tension of all the MW's major governments arriving and trying to take over from the Initiative and causing tensions to flair with the Angara, who are worried about losing their system to even more newcomers while everyone in the Initiative having to deal with the resentment of the Refugees for being somewhere 'safe' from the war, while also having to live with knowing that any loved ones they left behind would most likely have died in a horrifying war that is beyond their imagination.
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Post by Polka Dot on Dec 14, 2020 19:08:31 GMT
Kinda looks like Peebee, yeah. You also see what might be her racoon makeup I think that's a helmet but there's indeed a purple jacket/suit. I can also see the pant has a belt, like peebee has, and also her bracelet. Again though it might be a new protagonis or ryder or someone irrelevant. Also, the character appears to be either wearing sunglass or has the dark makeup around the eyes ala Peebs. All that said - it absolutely, positively could be PeeBee. But even if it is, it wouldn't tell us that she's going to be making an appearance in NME - they could very easily be using whatever assets they have on hand to fill in the visuals temporarily.
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Post by Hrungr on Dec 14, 2020 19:08:32 GMT
I've looked at the video a bunch of times, and it's just not clear enough to say one way or the other. However...I would not be surprised if they combined the crews as a way to try to satisfy both fanbases. I could see that. If they have a transgalactic mass relay/ship that allows easy travel between galaxies (which I think they're going to do), then it makes all this possible. I don't think they'll give up on the Andromeda Initiative, but it would allow crews to bounce between the two galaxies for whatever plot reasons.
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Post by Grog Muffins on Dec 14, 2020 19:14:41 GMT
There are two moving objects a little above and to the right for the word Effect in the trailer. Too small to make out a craft, but I doubt Mike would put two space rocks. It's definitely not lens flare. Do you mean one of the 2 pairs I circled in red? Those look a lot like space rocks or lens flares. They're not stars because they move and disappear but they don't look like any kind of craft. And they're all around the screen, some of them do have tails like comets, though, maybe that's why you might think they're different. The middle figure has a full helmet with full shiny glass like the AI ones (look at the top of their head, it shines in the light). Last time I looked through the entire series, no Asari ever wore more than a breather mask over their mouths and noses, not even to protect their eyes. Hell, Liara isn't wearing any head gear at all. I don't know where you say you see 2 crafts but there are none, that's either lens flares or space rocks. It might be an ai helmet but also not. We don't know unless bioware shows more. It could be something completely different from what we think it is. Most of the times this is what happens. Sorry, didn't mean to imply it's someone from the AI, specifically, just the style of the helmet and why I don't believe it's Peebee. Everything we get we should take with a huge mountain of salt because a lot of people jump to conclusions thanks of confirmation bias and over-excitement. We really don't know anything and making something out to be true based on speculation (for those of us without inside sources) is a recipe for disappointment when that might not even be the case in the long run. Be more critical, guys.
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Post by N7Pathfinder on Dec 14, 2020 19:17:57 GMT
I think that's a helmet but there's indeed a purple jacket/suit. I can also see the pant has a belt, like peebee has, and also her bracelet. Again though it might be a new protagonis or ryder or someone irrelevant. Also, the character appears to be either wearing sunglass or has the dark makeup around the eyes ala Peebs. All that said - it absolutely, positively could be PeeBee. But even if it is, it wouldn't tell us that she's going to be making an appearance in NME - they could very easily be using whatever assets they have on hand to fill in the visuals temporarily. Agree on the assets part. The figure looks to be a male human but again we can't say who are they, it's too blurry..... Something that makes me wonder though is Michael Gamble's tweet saying to someone from the team(?) " Who's on the background? You know but people don't". Are we gonna see someone familiar? Maybe shepard?
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Post by N7Pathfinder on Dec 14, 2020 19:19:10 GMT
I've looked at the video a bunch of times, and it's just not clear enough to say one way or the other. However...I would not be surprised if they combined the crews as a way to try to satisfy both fanbases. I could see that. If they have a transgalactic mass relay/ship that allows easy travel between galaxies (which I think they're going to do), then it makes all this possible. I don't think they'll give up on the Andromeda Initiative, but it would allow crews to bounce between the two galaxies for whatever plot reasons. I hope this is what happens. Don't know how they are gonna pull this off though.
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Post by Grog Muffins on Dec 14, 2020 19:25:14 GMT
It also makes me weirdly more accepting of Liara coming back? Like, it's still really forced, but I find the idea of Liara becoming something of a mentor figure for Ryder to be kinda heartwarming - It feels like it'd make for a nice 'passing the torch' moment. I kind of don't like that idea, personally. Ryder already had a pseudo-mentor in both Drak (military) and the Moshae (science), with Lexi (people) also pitching in to offer advice from time to time. I don't need another mentor. That would just show how Ryder still hasn't matured enough to be self sufficient. Plus, it would be redundant, what Ryder would learn from Liara (curiosity for the unknown and an appreciation for science) they already got from the Moshae.
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Post by Polka Dot on Dec 14, 2020 19:50:19 GMT
I would not be surprised if they combined the crews as a way to try to satisfy both fanbases. I could see that. I could see them doing that, but I don't think it would be satisfactory. As someone who wants MEA2 (with a lot of improvements), I can say that I'm not interested in ever seeing Ryder's crew again unless I'm playing Ryder. I've thought that, too - and hope they don't go there. I don't much like the idea of trivializing intergalactic travel. There really should be enough to do in one galaxy - lol. Are we gonna see someone familiar? Maybe shepard? Hard to say. But which Shepard? They would likely let us specify gender and class, but what would this Shep look like? One of the problems they'd face bringing Shep back is that they would not/could not look like the Shep we left in MET. I mean, the appearance wasn't even consistent across those 3 games, and now they'd be moving the characters to a new engine, new CC, and probably entirely new combat system so the character would not play the same, either.
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Post by KR96 on Dec 14, 2020 19:50:58 GMT
I've looked at the video a bunch of times, and it's just not clear enough to say one way or the other. However...I would not be surprised if they combined the crews as a way to try to satisfy both fanbases. I could see that. If they have a transgalactic mass relay/ship that allows easy travel between galaxies (which I think they're going to do), then it makes all this possible. I don't think they'll give up on the Andromeda Initiative, but it would allow crews to bounce between the two galaxies for whatever plot reasons. I hope this is what happens. Don't know how they are gonna pull this off though. In particular I find it hard to imagine a story which would gracefully justify hopping back and forth being the two galaxies. I'm open to being surprised, though.
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Post by Polka Dot on Dec 14, 2020 19:53:07 GMT
It also makes me weirdly more accepting of Liara coming back? Like, it's still really forced, but I find the idea of Liara becoming something of a mentor figure for Ryder to be kinda heartwarming - It feels like it'd make for a nice 'passing the torch' moment. I kind of don't like that idea, personally. Ryder already had a pseudo-mentor in both Drak (military) and the Moshae (science), with Lexi (people) also pitching in to offer advice from time to time. I don't need another mentor. That would just show how Ryder still hasn't matured enough to be self sufficient. Plus, it would be redundant, what Ryder would learn from Liara (curiosity for the unknown and an appreciation for science) they already got from the Moshae. Also SAM. Well, sort of. I guess they mentored each other in ways unique to artificial versus organic species.
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Post by Kabraxal on Dec 14, 2020 19:53:32 GMT
I just find it weird my little wild thought that the Mud Skipper at the end is an AI team arriving and Liara is going to meet up and explain what the hell happened might be true... and that it might be our Tempest team at that is just even more shocking. I love it but damn, it was just a wild hope: AI team returns to the MW and shenanigans? Didn’t think they could bridge the galaxies but I am hyped if it happens.
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Post by vonuber on Dec 14, 2020 19:54:39 GMT
Hard to say. But which Shepard? They would likely let us specify gender and class, but what would this Shep look like? One of the problems they'd face bringing Shep back is that they would not/could not look like the Shep we left in MET. I mean, the appearance wasn't even consistent across those 3 games, and now they'd be moving the characters to a new engine, new CC, and probably entirely new combat system so the character would not play the same, either. If only there was a remaster coming out in a new engine...
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Post by N7Pathfinder on Dec 14, 2020 19:59:13 GMT
I would not be surprised if they combined the crews as a way to try to satisfy both fanbases. I could see that. I could see them doing that, but I don't think it would be satisfactory. As someone who wants MEA2 (with a lot of improvements), I can say that I'm not interested in ever seeing Ryder's crew again unless I'm playing Ryder. I've thought that, too - and hope they don't go there. I don't much like the idea of trivializing intergalactic travel. There really should be enough to do in one galaxy - lol. Are we gonna see someone familiar? Maybe shepard? Hard to say. But which Shepard? They would likely let us specify gender and class, but what would this Shep look like? One of the problems they'd face bringing Shep back is that they would not/could not look like the Shep we left in MET. I mean, the appearance wasn't even consistent across those 3 games, and now they'd be moving the characters to a new engine, new CC, and probably entirely new combat system so the character would not play the same, either. We might not see shepard but play as ryder for the whole game. It's very early and we won't hear from the game for a year at least, if they'll show anything on n7 day. Only tweets with teases here and there.
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