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Post by Polka Dot on Dec 14, 2020 20:01:01 GMT
Hard to say. But which Shepard? They would likely let us specify gender and class, but what would this Shep look like? One of the problems they'd face bringing Shep back is that they would not/could not look like the Shep we left in MET. I mean, the appearance wasn't even consistent across those 3 games, and now they'd be moving the characters to a new engine, new CC, and probably entirely new combat system so the character would not play the same, either. If only there was a remaster coming out in a new engine... Is it? I wasn't aware of their engine choice - or whether any impacts to gameplay are expected. But I guess you're saying that Shep from the remaster might look and play the same as a potential Shep in NME? The folks who buy the remaster might like that.
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Post by Vortex13 on Dec 14, 2020 20:02:49 GMT
Might be in the minority here but I really hope that any sort of potential crossover will NOT be tied to an antagonist that will somehow be a threat to both galaxies.
That's Dragonball Z/Star Wars sequel levels of exponential threat generation (aka poor writing) and I don't really want to see the Mass Effect franchise go down the same route. I mean if this new game/trilogy is going to be about a threat to both Andromeda and the Milky Way then whats next? Do we fight a universe-threatening antagoinist in games 8-10? What about in ME 11? Do we have to travel the multiverse now and find away to punch out god?
The Milky Way was less then one percent explored by the time of ME 3 and Andromeda didn't even take us out of a single star cluster. The narrative doesn't need a "bigger and badder" villain.
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Post by Kabraxal on Dec 14, 2020 20:05:42 GMT
Might be in the minority here but I really hope that any sort of potential crossover will NOT be tied to an antagonist that will somehow be a threat to both galaxies. That's Dragonball Z/Star Wars sequel levels of exponential threat generation (aka poor writing) and I don't really want to see the Mass Effect franchise go down the same route. I mean if this new game/trilogy is going to be about a threat to both Andromeda and the Milky Way then whats next? Do we fight a universe-threatening antagoinist in games 8-10? What about in ME 11? Do we have to travel the multiverse now and find away to punch out god? The Milky Way was less then one percent explored by the time of ME 3 and Andromeda didn't even take us out of a single star cluster. The narrative doesn't need a "bigger and badder" villain. More likely to be a wild west band of competing groups or Cerberus is back in full and is trying to control or now does control much of the MW.
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Post by Little Bengel on Dec 14, 2020 20:12:09 GMT
Cerberus is back in full and is trying to control or now does control much of the MW. And just like that, you lost me.
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Post by Vortex13 on Dec 14, 2020 20:12:46 GMT
Might be in the minority here but I really hope that any sort of potential crossover will NOT be tied to an antagonist that will somehow be a threat to both galaxies. That's Dragonball Z/Star Wars sequel levels of exponential threat generation (aka poor writing) and I don't really want to see the Mass Effect franchise go down the same route. I mean if this new game/trilogy is going to be about a threat to both Andromeda and the Milky Way then whats next? Do we fight a universe-threatening antagoinist in games 8-10? What about in ME 11? Do we have to travel the multiverse now and find away to punch out god? The Milky Way was less then one percent explored by the time of ME 3 and Andromeda didn't even take us out of a single star cluster. The narrative doesn't need a "bigger and badder" villain. More likely to be a wild west band of competing groups or Cerberus is back in full and is trying to control or now does control much of the MW. That would be immensely stupid (imo). Cerberus should never have been a threat to galactic-super powers in game three let alone being able to go toe-to-toe with combined species' militaries. Having Cerberus now taking control of the Milky Way would be the exact type of exponential antagonist threat-generation I would prefer to have the series avoid.
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Post by Kabraxal on Dec 14, 2020 20:15:47 GMT
More likely to be a wild west band of competing groups or Cerberus is back in full and is trying to control or now does control much of the MW. That would be immensely stupid (imo). Cerberus should never have been a threat to galactic-super powers in game three let alone being able to go toe-to-toe with combined species' militaries. Having Cerberus now taking control of the Milky Way would be the exact type of exponential antagonist threat-generation I would prefer to have the series avoid. Uh... a group of close minded but brilliant shadow operatives sliding in on a galaxy healing from a war isn’t some uber villain. It’s political machinations of a competent group. It’s actually how extreme sects can rise to power.
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Post by ClarkKent on Dec 14, 2020 20:16:05 GMT
I like the idea of Liara playing the role of mentor for the new hero. Perhaps we'll be an agent of the shadowbroker? I don't like the idea of shipping out the cast of the OT to Andromeda. Liara isn't going to save that setting. Personally I don't see it. I see a Salarian, a Human and a Krogan. But the game is likely so far away I doubt they even have character designs, let alone character models, aside from Liara's. Ultimately, this is true. It's fun to speculate though. I agree with a user a few pages back that Bioware basically threw a bunch of vague possibilities at the wall with that teaser to see which one the audience liked best.
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Post by biggydx on Dec 14, 2020 20:22:24 GMT
Maybe humanity in Andromeda (along with the other races) found a way to harness the tech of the Jardaan in order to create an intergalactic relay. This Andromeda sect aids in bringing resources to the Milky Way in order to help them rebuild, but the process is slowed due to Kett Incursions, so your crew jumps back forth between galaxies to lead the fight against them. Hell, maybe the Kett find a way to cross into our Milky Way and we have to fight them off. For that to even work, the Milky Way species would need to have built there own relay that is directly linked to another in Andromeda. While we've seen concept art of one being made, this doesnt mean theres necessarily one ready in the Andromeda by the time this next game starts. Idk, I'm just spitballing.
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Post by Cyberstrike on Dec 14, 2020 20:29:12 GMT
After watching it again I have a theory. Here it is: it's not a trailer for the next ME game, it's a trailer for the MET:LE. Think about Liara on the snow planet finding part of an N7 helmet was a scene from the first comic book series. That also had a turian, human, krogan, and salarian mercs looking for Shepard's remains in that comic. The final shot saying " Mass Effect will continue." could mean that they're not abandoning the series. Honestly the more I watch it the more it feels more a new trailer for ME2 than a new game.
Then again it's just a theory, and not the gospel of Cyberstrike.
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Post by Kappa Neko on Dec 14, 2020 20:33:07 GMT
I agree with a user a few pages back that Bioware basically threw a bunch of vague possibilities at the wall with that teaser to see which one the audience liked best. I can totally believe that too. There's no better way to gauge the current mood on more Andromeda vs. more Milky Way (and Shepard) than making a trailer that could mean anything really. On the other hand,the game is so far in the future that I wonder how many people who played the trilogy will even still be interested. People have jobs and families. I was in college at the time... Ultimately they'll have to make a game for young adults in 2025 or whenever that game will be released. A game that appeals to a largely new audience. The world has changed a lot since 2012, society has changed. I already didn't feel like the target audience anymore in 2017 with MEA. So what I want, what the old fanbase wants, might not be what kids in the future will like.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Dec 14, 2020 20:40:15 GMT
Do you mean one of the 2 pairs I circled in red? Sorry, no. Let me ... wait. I'm watching the trailer again. And it's the same video, but no. Those aren't it. And what I saw in that other clip, is not in the teaser in the official ME youtube channel. Even the part where I can see Peebee ... is not looking like Peebee? I can see the light reflection as it glistens off the middle figure's armour and it paints it visibly so. Like, I can see how the light can make the colours look a certain way and I can definitely see the armour, which I don't see in the previous picture I shared. This is weird. What the hell did I see? Was it all SirP's bad acid trip?
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Post by chris2365 on Dec 14, 2020 20:40:32 GMT
After watching it again I have a theory. Here it is: it's not a trailer for the next ME game, it's a trailer for the MET:LE. Think about Liara on the snow planet finding part of an N7 helmet was a scene from the first comic book series. That also had a turian, human, krogan, and salarian mercs looking for Shepard's remains in that comic. The final shot saying " Mass Effect will continue." could mean that they're not abandoning the series. Honestly the more I watch it the more it feels more a new trailer for ME2 than a new game.
Then again it's just a theory, and not the gospel of Cyberstrike.
I definitely see the idea you are going with. However, the fact that we have two dead/inactive Reapers on the planet Liara is on kind of disproves that theory. Unless there were secret dead Reapers on Alchera during ME2 that we did not know about ...
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Post by traks on Dec 14, 2020 20:40:58 GMT
That would be immensely stupid (imo). Cerberus should never have been a threat to galactic-super powers in game three let alone being able to go toe-to-toe with combined species' militaries. Having Cerberus now taking control of the Milky Way would be the exact type of exponential antagonist threat-generation I would prefer to have the series avoid. Uh... a group of close minded but brilliant shadow operatives sliding in on a galaxy healing from a war isn’t some uber villain. It’s political machinations of a competent group. It’s actually how extreme sects can rise to power. Except Cerberus did never do anything in the shadow. At least in the games. If they would've been competent, they would've let Shep do his work and then sneak up on him to take control of the crucible in the last second instead of fighting Shep and company in the open at every turn. The funniest thing about this supposed shadow group? That they ran around in uniforms, so that everyone knew at the first second when a Cerberus officer was in the house. Dumbest shadow organization ever.
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Post by Iakus on Dec 14, 2020 20:41:07 GMT
After watching it again I have a theory. Here it is: it's not a trailer for the next ME game, it's a trailer for the MET:LE. Think about Liara on the snow planet finding part of an N7 helmet was a scene from the first comic book series. That also had a turian, human, krogan, and salarian mercs looking for Shepard's remains in that comic. The final shot saying " Mass Effect will continue." could mean that they're not abandoning the series. Honestly the more I watch it the more it feels more a new trailer for ME2 than a new game.
Then again it's just a theory, and not the gospel of Cyberstrike.
So, basically just a "Yes, we haven't forgotten about Mass Effect" rather than confirmation that a new game is being made? I could believe that.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Dec 14, 2020 20:41:41 GMT
Honestly the more I watch it the more it feels more a new trailer for ME2 than a new game. Deja vu
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Post by Vortex13 on Dec 14, 2020 20:43:30 GMT
That would be immensely stupid (imo). Cerberus should never have been a threat to galactic-super powers in game three let alone being able to go toe-to-toe with combined species' militaries. Having Cerberus now taking control of the Milky Way would be the exact type of exponential antagonist threat-generation I would prefer to have the series avoid. Uh... a group of close minded but brilliant shadow operatives sliding in on a galaxy healing from a war isn’t some uber villain. It’s political machinations of a competent group. It’s actually how extreme sects can rise to power. In an isolated system, one cut off from the rest of the galaxy due to supply lines or post-war troubles that an opportunistic despot can take advantage of, sure. But a Cerberus 2.0 faction that can somehow threaten the major races in the Milky Way doesn't make any sense. Unless of course the narrative gives them 'miles thick' levels of plot armor and/or beats the Citadel races near to death with the idiot ball. Even with taking the brunt of the Reaper invasion there is no way the Turian navy (for example) would be unable to do anything about some hostile group that somehow starts trying to take over the galaxy. Unless of course said hostile faction somehow could produce mass fleets of Reaper-strength dreadnoughts; which would of course lead right back to the whole poor writing issue I hope the new game avoids.
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Post by Son of Dorn on Dec 14, 2020 20:56:27 GMT
More likely to be a wild west band of competing groups or Cerberus is back in full and is trying to control or now does control much of the MW. That would be immensely stupid (imo). Cerberus should never have been a threat to galactic-super powers in game three let alone being able to go toe-to-toe with combined species' militaries. Having Cerberus now taking control of the Milky Way would be the exact type of exponential antagonist threat-generation I would prefer to have the series avoid. Plus Cerberus is pretty much dead before TIM eats a bullet....
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Post by The Elder King on Dec 14, 2020 20:59:44 GMT
I mean, aside the Dead Reapers and Liara being older, which are enough evidence...the teaser on YouTube and Twitter is described as ‘The Next Mass Effect’ teaser trailer, and the devs are referring to it as the next game, not the remaster...with the blog also making the distinction between the two.
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Post by abedsbrother on Dec 14, 2020 21:00:22 GMT
Maybe humanity in Andromeda (along with the other races) found a way to harness the tech of the Jardaan in order to create an intergalactic relay. Problem with that is it assumes the MW species already had the knowledge for building a relay. Afaik they didn't at the time the Arks left (ME2), though who knows what Reaper tech Hackett & the Alliance were holding back. (Maybe Cerberus didn't REALLY go rogue until Mars in ME3.)
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Post by N7Pathfinder on Dec 14, 2020 21:00:48 GMT
Do you mean one of the 2 pairs I circled in red? Sorry, no. Let me ... wait. I'm watching the trailer again. And it's the same video, but no. Those aren't it. And what I saw in that other clip, is not in the teaser in the official ME youtube channel. Even the part where I can see Peebee ... is not looking like Peebee? I can see the light reflection as it glistens off the middle figure's armour and it paints it visibly so. Like, I can see how the light can make the colours look a certain way and I can definitely see the armour, which I don't see in the previous picture I shared. This is weird. What the hell did I see? Was it all SirP's bad acid trip? What clip? The pic isn't visible btw.
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Post by abedsbrother on Dec 14, 2020 21:06:18 GMT
That would be immensely stupid (imo). Cerberus should never have been a threat to galactic-super powers in game three let alone being able to go toe-to-toe with combined species' militaries. Having Cerberus now taking control of the Milky Way would be the exact type of exponential antagonist threat-generation I would prefer to have the series avoid. Plus Cerberus is pretty much dead before TIM eats a bullet.... Post-ME3, Liara + what's left of her Shadow Broker network is far better positioned to be the new villain than whatever is left of Cerberus.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Dec 14, 2020 21:08:33 GMT
That's not important, as it was probably manipulated.
Edit: I got played like a damn fiddle. I'll do better in the future.
The pic isn't visible btw. Link
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Post by Son of Dorn on Dec 14, 2020 21:08:51 GMT
Plus Cerberus is pretty much dead before TIM eats a bullet.... Post-ME3, Liara + what's left of her Shadow Broker network is far better positioned to be the new villain than whatever is left of Cerberus. I'd take that... About time she was put 6 feet under. 😈😉😆
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Post by traks on Dec 14, 2020 21:11:53 GMT
Maybe humanity in Andromeda (along with the other races) found a way to harness the tech of the Jardaan in order to create an intergalactic relay. Problem with that is it assumes the MW species already had the knowledge for building a relay. Afaik they didn't at the time the Arks left (ME2), though who knows what Reaper tech Hackett & the Alliance were holding back. (Maybe Cerberus didn't REALLY go rogue until Mars in ME3.) The Milky Way part of the Andromeda Initiative has 600 years to research how Relays work. They "just" have to reconnect via QEC to send the blueprints over to Andromeda. At least that should've been the plan, because an Andromeda Initiative only makes sense if it was initially planned for scientific reasons with the goal to report key findings back to the Milky Way. If the goal is not to explore Andromeda to probably find answers and solutions for the Milky Way, why travel 600 years in cryo pods? The question "what do we even want in Andromeda" should be retroactively answered in ME5 to put the AI on a more solid premise and not the "Utopian horseshit" mentioned in MEA by Addison. If they just wanted to create an independent society, they could have just searched for a planet in the Milky Way.
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Post by N7Pathfinder on Dec 14, 2020 21:13:54 GMT
That's not important, as it was probably manipulated. The pic isn't visible btw. Link Ok...
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