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Post by themikefest on Dec 20, 2020 2:17:34 GMT
It would take a long time to fix the Normandy, so if the game is set after Shep leaves the hospital but before the Normandy is spaceworthy, It would only take a long time to fix the SR2 if ems is below 2600. And if ems is that low, it shows the thrusters being ripped from the fuselage. No way the SR2 will be fixed. If ems is that low, Shepard is dead. Who is this Urdnot Mordin you speak of? Hopefully you're wrong
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Post by Shinobu on Dec 20, 2020 2:24:16 GMT
Cool analysis, I missed the in depth analysis, more common in the ye olde days of ME fandom. I also watched your "Scott Falls Down" clip, I'm like this isn't what I think it is, it is! LOL. Thanks! It's probably just because I'm old and housebound that I had the time and energy to devote to looking up stuff.
I was poring over maps of the galaxy for a week and was super paranoid that someone else would beat me to it. I think everything moves so fast these days that everyone thought they had to put out their take on the trailer by day 2, which doesn't leave much time for scouring the wiki for blue marbles and figuring out which direction the Witch's Broom is in. I watched a few analysis videos and was sad no one seemed to be really looking at the first half of the trailer. "What is that flat thing that looks like an old 45?" I didn't know what an Alderson disc was and was really interested to find out that it would be better suited for a machine race than an organic one.
I don't know if Bioware chose the nebulae they did because they're pretty and striking, or if it's also because they almost literally spell out "Perseus Veil, Dumbbell."
Thanks for checking out my other videos! I was frustrated that Scott was always falling down while Shepard got to make all the cool power poses, so I thought I'd just put all of the falling in one place. Not everyone gets my sense of humor.
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Post by Polka Dot on Dec 20, 2020 2:31:46 GMT
Possibly, although either of them would represent canonization of choices. I don't see a hint of crow's feet or laugh lines - just the usual asari scales. You're right, Grunt can die on the suicide mission Well, there's multiple ways that Grunt could be MIA/KIA. You can choose not to open the tank, and if he does survive ME2, he can die in ME3 if you save the rachni queen and he wasn't loyal in ME2. Here's the text from Gamble's tweet, referencing the trailer: But who is in the background, nathan? You know. But the world doesnt. But can they figure it out? Who knows!Which sort of sounds like "the world" (us) is supposed to be able to figure it out. Could it be Kallo (flying the mudskipper), Drack, and Ryder? If it is centuries in the future, no salarian we know could survive, and the only krogan possibilities may not have survived, either. In order for the krogan to be someone we know from TMW, they would have had to canonize their survival.
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Post by Polka Dot on Dec 20, 2020 2:38:05 GMT
my Yagh sized butt? Was that in the vid? I missed it.
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Post by Shinobu on Dec 20, 2020 2:45:08 GMT
It would take a long time to fix the Normandy, so if the game is set after Shep leaves the hospital but before the Normandy is spaceworthy, It would only take a long time to fix the SR2 if ems is below 2600. And if ems is that low, it shows the thrusters being ripped from the fuselage. No way the SR2 will be fixed. If ems is that low, Shepard is dead. Who is this Urdnot Mordin you speak of? Hopefully you're wrong 1) Yes, that's why there is no reason for Shepard to be without the Normandy if the game takes place immediately post ME3. So since we have a Mudskipper and not the Normandy, it's either not Shepard or it's not immediately post ME3. Or maybe both (a different protagonist with a new ship set around the time of Andromeda).
2) If the genophage is cured and Wrex and Bakara lead the Urdnot clan, Bakara wants to name their firstborn Mordin. Wrex hopes it's a girl.
3) I could be. We'll find out eventually.
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Post by biggydx on Dec 20, 2020 2:47:13 GMT
Quick question. Don't Barriers/Shields help in protecting those from the elements. For example, during Tali's loyalty mission on Haustrum (in Mass Effect 2), when the sun was no longer occluded, it would eat away at your shields if you were caught in the open. Would this not be such a case for that particular planet that Liara was on in the trailer?
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Post by gothpunkboy89 on Dec 20, 2020 2:55:03 GMT
Quick question. Don't Barriers/Shields help in protecting those from the elements. For example, during Tali's loyalty mission on Haustrum (in Mass Effect 2), when the sun was no longer occluded, it would eat away at your shields if you were caught in the open. Would this not be such a case for that particular planet that Liara was on in the trailer?
Even biotics have their barriers effected by the sun in that mission. Only Grunt is unaffected because I don't think he has any shields technically. The series has always been very inconsistent with the capabilities of barriers and shields. In ME1 everyone put a mask on when on hostile planets but it also showed in ME2 and Andromeda barriers and shields being capable of sealing off hull breeches and keeping atmosphere in the ship.
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Post by Shinobu on Dec 20, 2020 3:34:09 GMT
You're right, Grunt can die on the suicide mission Well, there's multiple ways that Grunt could be MIA/KIA. You can choose not to open the tank, and if he does survive ME2, he can die in ME3 if you save the rachni queen and he wasn't loyal in ME2. Here's the text from Gamble's tweet, referencing the trailer: But who is in the background, nathan? You know. But the world doesnt. But can they figure it out? Who knows!Which sort of sounds like "the world" (us) is supposed to be able to figure it out. Could it be Kallo (flying the mudskipper), Drack, and Ryder? If it is centuries in the future, no salarian we know could survive, and the only krogan possibilities may not have survived, either. In order for the krogan to be someone we know from TMW, they would have had to canonize their survival. 1) Oh yes, you're right. I always open the tank to get my murder baby. And how can I forget bawling my eyes out when he sacrificed himself fighting the Rachni -- only to laugh watery tears when he showed up later asking for food? I don't even take him in my squad and I love him. So he probably won't be there, more's the pity.
2) Well, Bioware has canonized survival in the past (Leliana, for example), but my guess is that they'd try to avoid that as much as possible because they are already canonizing Liara's survival (themikefest already disapproves). The word "who" could be referring to only one of the three or all of them.
At the most conservative, let's say only one of the people is a recognizable face.
If it's the Salarian, the only Reaper War Salarian who could be canonically alive is the Dalatrass, I believe (Padok, Mordin, Maelon, Jondum Bau, Kirrahe can all die, and the councilor could be one of two people). That doesn't seem likely, so the Salarian is either someone we don't know, or from Andromeda.
If it's the Krogan, the only Reaper war Krogan who could be canonically alive would be... Fortack (the Urdnot scientist)? The very polite krogan who works for Mister Thrax? Still doesn't seem likely. So the Krogan is probably someone we don't know or from Andromeda.
If it's the humanoid, it gets more complicated, because I'm not sure what species that person is. Drell: None in Andromeda, could be Kolyat Krios if set in the reaper war era, or unknown. Feron can die in ME3 I think?
Human: Reaper war era: Joker survives, but he doesn't stand that straight. Cortez, Traynor, who else? Andromeda: Anyone but Alec, Sloane, and Aroane.
Asari: Reaper War era: Aethyta, Aria, the Consort, Andromeda: Any
Angara: Any
Help, please?
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Post by Shinobu on Dec 20, 2020 3:37:33 GMT
Quick question. Don't Barriers/Shields help in protecting those from the elements. For example, during Tali's loyalty mission on Haustrum (in Mass Effect 2), when the sun was no longer occluded, it would eat away at your shields if you were caught in the open. Would this not be such a case for that particular planet that Liara was on in the trailer? I'm not sure about the cold, but it shouldn't protect against breathing a toxic atmosphere (like the methane/ammonia one on Alchera) for example.
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Post by themikefest on Dec 20, 2020 3:41:00 GMT
(themikefest already disapproves). So? Why would I approve?
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Post by Shinobu on Dec 20, 2020 3:41:42 GMT
my Yagh sized butt? Was that in the vid? I missed it. Yes, I put it in as a single frame. Please watch the video repeatedly to find it.
No, I was just teasing smilesja.
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Post by Shinobu on Dec 20, 2020 3:44:48 GMT
(themikefest already disapproves). So? Why would I approve? You won't. Because Liara is canonically alive. That's my point.
Edit: But I think they will try to avoid pissing you off further by making Wrex, Garrus, Tali, etc. canonically alive as well.
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Post by Polka Dot on Dec 20, 2020 4:44:08 GMT
Well, there's multiple ways that Grunt could be MIA/KIA. You can choose not to open the tank, and if he does survive ME2, he can die in ME3 if you save the rachni queen and he wasn't loyal in ME2. Here's the text from Gamble's tweet, referencing the trailer: But who is in the background, nathan? You know. But the world doesnt. But can they figure it out? Who knows!Which sort of sounds like "the world" (us) is supposed to be able to figure it out. Could it be Kallo (flying the mudskipper), Drack, and Ryder? If it is centuries in the future, no salarian we know could survive, and the only krogan possibilities may not have survived, either. In order for the krogan to be someone we know from TMW, they would have had to canonize their survival. 1) Oh yes, you're right. I always open the tank to get my murder baby. And how can I forget bawling my eyes out when he sacrificed himself fighting the Rachni -- only to laugh watery tears when he showed up later asking for food? I don't even take him in my squad and I love him. So he probably won't be there, more's the pity.
2) Well, Bioware has canonized survival in the past (Leliana, for example), but my guess is that they'd try to avoid that as much as possible because they are already canonizing Liara's survival (themikefest already disapproves). The word "who" could be referring to only one of the three or all of them. At the most conservative, let's say only one of the people is a recognizable face. If it's the Salarian, the only Reaper War Salarian who could be canonically alive is the Dalatrass, I believe (Padok, Mordin, Maelon, Jondum Bau, Kirrahe can all die, and the councilor could be one of two people). That doesn't seem likely, so the Salarian is either someone we don't know, or from Andromeda.
If it's the Krogan, the only Reaper war Krogan who could be canonically alive would be... Fortack (the Urdnot scientist)? The very polite krogan who works for Mister Thrax? Still doesn't seem likely. So the Krogan is probably someone we don't know or from Andromeda.
If it's the humanoid, it gets more complicated, because I'm not sure what species that person is. Drell: None in Andromeda, could be Kolyat Krios if set in the reaper war era, or unknown. Feron can die in ME3 I think?
Human: Reaper war era: Joker survives, but he doesn't stand that straight. Cortez, Traynor, who else? Andromeda: Anyone but Alec, Sloane, and Aroane.
Asari: Reaper War era: Aethyta, Aria, the Consort, Andromeda: Any
Angara: Any Help, please?
I'd love to if I could, but alas - I'm not coming up with anything that hasn't been covered. In studying the images kindly provided by N7Pathfinder , my best guess is that the figure in the middle is human. I'm also not quite sure what to make of images from the other mudskipper graphic we've seen - but it appears that the figures on the right are drell and salarian, and the 2 on the left are humanoid - though I notice it appears that whatever they are wearing is made of cloth rather than the rigid materials typically used for armor. Of course, every last one of them is likely a temporary placeholder, not actual character designs we'll ever see in-game. But what if this: But who is in the background, nathan? You know. But the world doesnt. But can they figure it out? Who knows!is actually inviting us to figure out the general roles of these characters instead of their individual identities? Perhaps the answer is more along the lines of, "Why, that's the new PC and crew of course" or "Those are Liara's Shadow Broker agents" or somesuch? I dunno. The mudskipper really adds to the mystery, since we've never seen one before. We don't know whether it was developed in TMW or Andromeda, nor do we know whether it travels in the cargo hold of a much bigger vessel or independently.
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Post by Shinobu on Dec 20, 2020 22:08:10 GMT
1) Oh yes, you're right. I always open the tank to get my murder baby. And how can I forget bawling my eyes out when he sacrificed himself fighting the Rachni -- only to laugh watery tears when he showed up later asking for food? I don't even take him in my squad and I love him. So he probably won't be there, more's the pity.
2) Well, Bioware has canonized survival in the past (Leliana, for example), but my guess is that they'd try to avoid that as much as possible because they are already canonizing Liara's survival (themikefest already disapproves). The word "who" could be referring to only one of the three or all of them. At the most conservative, let's say only one of the people is a recognizable face. If it's the Salarian, the only Reaper War Salarian who could be canonically alive is the Dalatrass, I believe (Padok, Mordin, Maelon, Jondum Bau, Kirrahe can all die, and the councilor could be one of two people). That doesn't seem likely, so the Salarian is either someone we don't know, or from Andromeda.
If it's the Krogan, the only Reaper war Krogan who could be canonically alive would be... Fortack (the Urdnot scientist)? The very polite krogan who works for Mister Thrax? Still doesn't seem likely. So the Krogan is probably someone we don't know or from Andromeda.
If it's the humanoid, it gets more complicated, because I'm not sure what species that person is. Drell: None in Andromeda, could be Kolyat Krios if set in the reaper war era, or unknown. Feron can die in ME3 I think?
Human: Reaper war era: Joker survives, but he doesn't stand that straight. Cortez, Traynor, who else? Andromeda: Anyone but Alec, Sloane, and Aroane.
Asari: Reaper War era: Aethyta, Aria, the Consort, Andromeda: Any
Angara: Any Help, please?
I'd love to if I could, but alas - I'm not coming up with anything that hasn't been covered. In studying the images kindly provided by N7Pathfinder , my best guess is that the figure in the middle is human. I'm also not quite sure what to make of images from the other mudskipper graphic we've seen - but it appears that the figures on the right are drell and salarian, and the 2 on the left are humanoid - though I notice it appears that whatever they are wearing is made of cloth rather than the rigid materials typically used for armor. Of course, every last one of them is likely a temporary placeholder, not actual character designs we'll ever see in-game. But what if this: But who is in the background, nathan? You know. But the world doesnt. But can they figure it out? Who knows!is actually inviting us to figure out the general roles of these characters instead of their individual identities? Perhaps the answer is more along the lines of, "Why, that's the new PC and crew of course" or "Those are Liara's Shadow Broker agents" or somesuch? I dunno. The mudskipper really adds to the mystery, since we've never seen one before. We don't know whether it was developed in TMW or Andromeda, nor do we know whether it travels in the cargo hold of a much bigger vessel or independently. I think they are hinting that we actually know the character. I didn't think we'd see Andromeda characters in the MW, but going through the exercise above it seems if it isn't Shepard, Cortez, Traynor or Kolyat in the middle it's going to have to be Andromeda characters unless themikefest knows of other Salarian/Krogan/human characters that could be alive post-reaper war to crew a new ship.
So who is the crew of the Mudskipper? A drell (seen twice) A salarian (seen twice, possibly 3 times) A krogan (seen once) A female Quarian (seen once in the pic of the misty planet surface) 2 humans (because there are always a human male and female on the team)
Two other figures of unknown species -- are these the human crew or some other species? The one on the far left in the mud flats looks like it has hooks for hands.
We will probably get 6 or 8 squad members, so this might account for them all. No Turian this time? I've always wanted a Vorcha or Batarian squadmate as well.
All three pictures of the Mudskipper show it landed on a planet. I wonder if this means it has no shuttle -- it doesn't look big enough to hold one anyway. So it literally has to land on each mudball planet and skip to the next. It has a very human aesthetic -- it looks like it has fighter jet engines on the back. Perhaps they're so big because the Mudskipper has to power its way between worlds with no relay travel. I think it is too big to fit into the cargo bay of either the Normandy or Tempest, so I think it's it's own ship.
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I'd love to if I could, but alas - I'm not coming up with anything that hasn't been covered. In studying the images kindly provided by N7Pathfinder , my best guess is that the figure in the middle is human. I'm also not quite sure what to make of images from the other mudskipper graphic we've seen - but it appears that the figures on the right are drell and salarian, and the 2 on the left are humanoid - though I notice it appears that whatever they are wearing is made of cloth rather than the rigid materials typically used for armor. Of course, every last one of them is likely a temporary placeholder, not actual character designs we'll ever see in-game. But what if this: But who is in the background, nathan? You know. But the world doesnt. But can they figure it out? Who knows!is actually inviting us to figure out the general roles of these characters instead of their individual identities? Perhaps the answer is more along the lines of, "Why, that's the new PC and crew of course" or "Those are Liara's Shadow Broker agents" or somesuch? I dunno. The mudskipper really adds to the mystery, since we've never seen one before. We don't know whether it was developed in TMW or Andromeda, nor do we know whether it travels in the cargo hold of a much bigger vessel or independently. I think they are hinting that we actually know the character. I didn't think we'd see Andromeda characters in the MW, but going through the exercise above it seems if it isn't Shepard, Cortez, Traynor or Kolyat in the middle it's going to have to be Andromeda characters unless themikefest knows of other Salarian/Krogan/human characters that could be alive post-reaper war to crew a new ship.
So who is the crew of the Mudskipper? A drell (seen twice) A salarian (seen twice, possibly 3 times) A krogan (seen once) A female Quarian (seen once in the pic of the misty planet surface) 2 humans (because there are always a human male and female on the team)
Two other figures of unknown species -- are these the human crew or some other species? The one on the far left in the mud flats looks like it has hooks for hands.
We will probably get 6 or 8 squad members, so this might account for them all. No Turian this time? I've always wanted a Vorcha or Batarian squadmate as well.
All three pictures of the Mudskipper show it landed on a planet. I wonder if this means it has no shuttle -- it doesn't look big enough to hold one anyway. So it literally has to land on each mudball planet and skip to the next. It has a very human aesthetic -- it looks like it has fighter jet engines on the back. Perhaps they're so big because the Mudskipper has to power its way between worlds with no relay travel. I think it is too big to fit into the cargo bay of either the Normandy or Tempest, so I think it's it's own ship.
In the mudskipper art the figure beside the human is an angara, and yes, gamble hinted we know the character. I don't want to get my hopes up but the only logical thing is it's ryder, and if you look at the pc image i posted, if you look closely you will see the helmet has big glass, basically it seems like the pathfinder armor, and the stance is exactly the same. Even the movement is the same as when you leave ryder idle.
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Post by themikefest on Dec 20, 2020 22:45:53 GMT
Edit: But I think they will try to avoid pissing you off further by making Wrex, Garrus, Tali, etc. canonically alive as well. Why do you think that?
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Post by Shinobu on Dec 21, 2020 1:22:34 GMT
I think they are hinting that we actually know the character. I didn't think we'd see Andromeda characters in the MW, but going through the exercise above it seems if it isn't Shepard, Cortez, Traynor or Kolyat in the middle it's going to have to be Andromeda characters unless themikefest knows of other Salarian/Krogan/human characters that could be alive post-reaper war to crew a new ship.
So who is the crew of the Mudskipper? A drell (seen twice) A salarian (seen twice, possibly 3 times) A krogan (seen once) A female Quarian (seen once in the pic of the misty planet surface) 2 humans (because there are always a human male and female on the team)
Two other figures of unknown species -- are these the human crew or some other species? The one on the far left in the mud flats looks like it has hooks for hands.
We will probably get 6 or 8 squad members, so this might account for them all. No Turian this time? I've always wanted a Vorcha or Batarian squadmate as well.
All three pictures of the Mudskipper show it landed on a planet. I wonder if this means it has no shuttle -- it doesn't look big enough to hold one anyway. So it literally has to land on each mudball planet and skip to the next. It has a very human aesthetic -- it looks like it has fighter jet engines on the back. Perhaps they're so big because the Mudskipper has to power its way between worlds with no relay travel. I think it is too big to fit into the cargo bay of either the Normandy or Tempest, so I think it's it's own ship.
In the mudskipper art the figure beside the human is an angara, and yes, gamble hinted we know the character. I don't want to get my hopes up but the only logical thing is it's ryder, and if you look at the pc image i posted, if you look closely you will see the helmet has big glass, basically it seems like the pathfinder armor, and the stance is exactly the same. Even the movement is the same as when you leave ryder idle. I can't tell what that person is, although the broad shoulders could be angaran. The legs don't look correct.
I'm having trouble wrapping my head around having Ryder in the MW. Why would she have a Mudskipper instead of the Tempest? Unless the intergalactic relay has some sort of weight restriction and can only send people but not ships.
As far as the movement goes, wouldn't every human have that idle animation going forward in the Frostbite engine?
If Bioware doesn't bring back Shepard and instead brings Ryder to clean up the aftermath of a low EMS Destroy outcome, I think most of the fanbase would birth a cow and then explode. Like The Last Jedi type of explosion. I love Ryder, but that seems inadvisable.
EDIT: To correct the star Wars reference.
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Post by Shinobu on Dec 21, 2020 1:32:30 GMT
Edit: But I think they will try to avoid pissing you off further by making Wrex, Garrus, Tali, etc. canonically alive as well. Why do you think that? Every time Bioware brings back someone who could have died (Anders, Leliana, now Liara) they get unhappy people who feel their choices aren't being honored. So I doubt Bioware would try to get away with bringing back more than one character who could be dead in a single game, even if that character is generally loved. So I doubt they're going to say "Hey, Liara's back! And Tali! And Garrus!" From the trailer we see that Liara is the one they've chosen to get the special resurrection this game, so no one else will be coming back in any meaningful way.
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Post by N7Pathfinder on Dec 21, 2020 10:27:39 GMT
In the mudskipper art the figure beside the human is an angara, and yes, gamble hinted we know the character. I don't want to get my hopes up but the only logical thing is it's ryder, and if you look at the pc image i posted, if you look closely you will see the helmet has big glass, basically it seems like the pathfinder armor, and the stance is exactly the same. Even the movement is the same as when you leave ryder idle. I can't tell what that person is, although the broad shoulders could be angaran. The legs don't look correct.
I'm having trouble wrapping my head around having Ryder in the MW. Why would she have a Mudskipper instead of the Tempest? Unless the intergalactic relay has some sort of weight restriction and can only send people but not ships.
As far as the movement goes, wouldn't every human have that idle animation going forward in the Frostbite engine?
If Bioware doesn't bring back Shepard and instead brings Ryder to clean up the aftermath of a low EMS Destroy outcome, I think most of the fanbase would birth a cow and then explode. Like The Force Awakens type of explosion. I love Ryder, but that seems inadvisable.
The mudskipper is a problem and i see it in every artwork and as we see in the teaser. If that's the main ship i don't like it. Everyone believe shepard is gonnna come back but that is stupid imo. We can see that liara is older, and I don't think they did that to confuse people whether she is or not. The n7 could mean nothing, we see n7 in every promotional video, Andromeda too. I think liara is just reminiscent of her/him and hopeful for the future. If they want to revive shepard again is gonna be ridiculous at this point... Shepard could be at most a reference or see some memories, and at least they had 3 games to develop whereas ryder has only 1. I know people will rage but if the game has ryder, and it's good, i don't think there's gonna be that much big of a problem... Unless they travel through time and redo the ending with shepard surviving, but i don't think they will go that far. There are people that want the Andromeda story albeit fewer than a shepard continuation but they are there, and they can win new and old people. People need to stop jumping to conclusions and say "omg Shepard's back!". Same goes for the journalists. They hype themselves for nothing and at the end they might be disappointed cause it's gonna be their fault, not bioware's. Granted, i too was thinking shepard was gonna return but i didn't paying attention at the time. After seeing it a lot of times i realized that's not the case, but more informations will come at some point and we'll know who the pc is gonna be.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Dec 21, 2020 13:41:14 GMT
The Jardaan built it, yeah. They're everywhere, even though we've never seen them. They're even here, in this very board. In fact, they also built the BSN. Each one of us could be a Jardaan. Even Hrungr isn't actually human, but a twitter scouting advanced Jardaan bot.
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Post by ahglock on Dec 21, 2020 15:30:43 GMT
I can't tell what that person is, although the broad shoulders could be angaran. The legs don't look correct.
I'm having trouble wrapping my head around having Ryder in the MW. Why would she have a Mudskipper instead of the Tempest? Unless the intergalactic relay has some sort of weight restriction and can only send people but not ships.
As far as the movement goes, wouldn't every human have that idle animation going forward in the Frostbite engine?
If Bioware doesn't bring back Shepard and instead brings Ryder to clean up the aftermath of a low EMS Destroy outcome, I think most of the fanbase would birth a cow and then explode. Like The Force Awakens type of explosion. I love Ryder, but that seems inadvisable.
The mudskipper is a problem and i see it in every artwork and as we see in the teaser. If that's the main ship i don't like it. Everyone believe shepard is gonnna come back but that is stupid imo. We can see that liara is older, and I don't think they did that to confuse people whether she is or not. The n7 could mean nothing, we see n7 in every promotional video, Andromeda too. I think liara is just reminiscent of her/him and hopeful for the future. If they want to revive shepard again is gonna be ridiculous at this point... Shepard could be at most a reference or see some memories, and at least they had 3 games to develop whereas ryder has only 1. I know people will rage but if the game has ryder, and it's good, i don't think there's gonna be that much big of a problem... Unless they travel through time and redo the ending with shepard surviving, but i don't think they will go that far. There are people that want the Andromeda story albeit fewer than a shepard continuation but they are there, and they can win new and old people. People need to stop jumping to conclusions and say "omg Shepard's back!". Same goes for the journalists. They hype themselves for nothing and at the end they might be disappointed cause it's gonna be their fault, not bioware's. Granted, i too was thinking shepard was gonna return but i didn't paying attention at the time. After seeing it a lot of times i realized that's not the case, but more informations will come at some point and we'll know who the pc is gonna be.
Ryder poofing into the MW makes even less sense than Shepard being alive 600 years from the end of ME3. We know Shepard can be alive, we know they have tech like status pods, the entire cyro freeze fad of the 80s was about freezing people until they found a way to fix them. It would be make more sense and be far more believable for that to have happened to Shepard than having Ryder back. And somehow I suspect they want people to buy the game, so Ryder not just being back but solving stuff in the MW would pretty much end the franchise.
And you are jumping to just as many conclusions as the people saying omg Shepard is back. I don't think either is back, but anything is possible. But unless they want to throw money away they wont be putting Ryder back as the person solving the MW problems. They could have swung a Ryder story in andromeda, wouldn't have been my cup of tea but hey people may get it.
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Post by N7Pathfinder on Dec 21, 2020 16:18:28 GMT
The mudskipper is a problem and i see it in every artwork and as we see in the teaser. If that's the main ship i don't like it. Everyone believe shepard is gonnna come back but that is stupid imo. We can see that liara is older, and I don't think they did that to confuse people whether she is or not. The n7 could mean nothing, we see n7 in every promotional video, Andromeda too. I think liara is just reminiscent of her/him and hopeful for the future. If they want to revive shepard again is gonna be ridiculous at this point... Shepard could be at most a reference or see some memories, and at least they had 3 games to develop whereas ryder has only 1. I know people will rage but if the game has ryder, and it's good, i don't think there's gonna be that much big of a problem... Unless they travel through time and redo the ending with shepard surviving, but i don't think they will go that far. There are people that want the Andromeda story albeit fewer than a shepard continuation but they are there, and they can win new and old people. People need to stop jumping to conclusions and say "omg Shepard's back!". Same goes for the journalists. They hype themselves for nothing and at the end they might be disappointed cause it's gonna be their fault, not bioware's. Granted, i too was thinking shepard was gonna return but i didn't paying attention at the time. After seeing it a lot of times i realized that's not the case, but more informations will come at some point and we'll know who the pc is gonna be.
Ryder poofing into the MW makes even less sense than Shepard being alive 600 years from the end of ME3. We know Shepard can be alive, we know they have tech like status pods, the entire cyro freeze fad of the 80s was about freezing people until they found a way to fix them. It would be make more sense and be far more believable for that to have happened to Shepard than having Ryder back. And somehow I suspect they want people to buy the game, so Ryder not just being back but solving stuff in the MW would pretty much end the franchise.
And you are jumping to just as many conclusions as the people saying omg Shepard is back. I don't think either is back, but anything is possible. But unless they want to throw money away they wont be putting Ryder back as the person solving the MW problems. They could have swung a Ryder story in andromeda, wouldn't have been my cup of tea but hey people may get it.
I didn't mean suddenly ryder appears in the mw. It might symbolize the connection between both galaxies thus showing him/her but as you said, anything is possible. I still think it could be ryder cause of the helmet and what looks like the pathfinder suit. It could be a new pc too though. Ryder might solve some stuff in the mw if they connect and integrade story elements from andromeda. Solving things in andromeda too. Basically they might mix both galaxies stories like for example where did the jardaaans go? Did they visited mw too besides andromeda? As for shepard returning i doubt it, unless they can clone or time travel which it might be unlikely, unless gamble really want's to please both fanbases if he'll ever gonna pull this off. Most possible scenario is either ryder or a new pc.
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Post by ahglock on Dec 21, 2020 16:31:24 GMT
As I said it does not require a clone or time travel. They have stasis that lasts at least 600 years canonically. A he is so jacked up we can't fix him, yet. Heck they even did it for mama ryder. Stasis is more logical than a great bridge between galaxies being anywhere in the game other than its end. And heck a basic from the reapers we discovered genetic engineering that lets us extend our lifespans into the thousands of years seems more plausible than a relay between galaxies, especially since you'd need one on both ends and they would need some way to connect.
I'll agree a new protagonist is more plausible, but Ryder in a game that appears to be MW focused, only if they completely want to end ME for all time and lose epic piles of cash in the process.
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Post by Spectr61 on Dec 21, 2020 20:08:12 GMT
Anyone know where Liara put her beacons?
If so, do any of those locations match up with these supposed planets?
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Post by malanek on Dec 21, 2020 20:39:26 GMT
I think that it is logical to assume that in a high ems post destroy setting there would be a Quarian faction that wanted to rebuild the Geth. And this would probably not be legally approved so it would be done in secret and quite an interesting plot point.
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