The Mass Effect ending support group

Seems odd to mention Tarquin Victus among these names. Dude’s a single-serve mook that falls into a hole and dies in a side mission. 

I would think maybe the writers would shoot for something more intriguing than the character just being an even bigger wig, thus more people want them dead right off the bat for some reason, because that sounds kinda boring.

“Put the franchise in the freezer” is just saying the same thing as before. You’d be better off just saying “Shepard is Mass Effect, and absolutely no other game should exist without them”. I mean, that’s basically what this boils down to, isn’t it?

I’d like to think we’d get something better than the Mandalorian. Frankly, I think the sequel trilogy hurt fans so badly, any low effort schlock that doesn’t desecrate the setting further will be embraced at this point.  

My Shepard is gone, reduced to atoms, so not much you can do with them.

Lol. "Just make the entire galaxy hate Shepard again, despite saving them from extinction. I have no idea how you go about doing that, but BioWare is stupid if THEY can't think of something."

Hey, if we're peddling dumb ideas, why don't we do "Mass Effect Next Gen", and have all the party members be the children of the classic crew, just like them except cynical, disaffected teenagers who think saving the galaxy is "teh lamezors" and some are gender-swapped, and they're all also better in every way. Like, imagine Garrus getting out-done on the shooting range by his own daughter? Wouldn't that be a cool scene? Or Liara being all "Liara Jr, get off that stripper pole and get back to Shadow Broker training!"

And they all have to band together with a teenage Shepard clone, to save their parents from TIM's evil daughter clone, and her new human supremacy group, Medusa, which is way better than Cerberus because it's feminist and also, what with her hair being snakes, she technically has way more heads.

With all the cameos and callbacks and running jokes the writers could cram in, how could the fans possibly hate it?

Here's an idea; Garrus gets captures by the new Batarian ... what do the Batarians have? Hegemony? Oligarchy? Whatever. Garrus gets accused of blowing up the biggest Batarian post war colony, because their homeworld got fucked. Garrus gets captured and put to death row. Shepard breaks him out, to keep him alive enough until he can be proven innocent, Batarians demand Shepard's expedition, because even as a Spectre, that was not under the Council's orders. Considering the state of the Batarians and the crime inflicted upon them, the council cannot turn a blind eye at Shepard's crime, since now he's an accomplish. There's literally a million things you can do.

Hegemony.

Also that and anything like that is stupid.
Also both Garrus and Shepard can be dead, the former twice.

I think “Who Framed Commander Shepard” is way too regressive a story path. How am I supposed to buy into the idea that some evil prankster can manage to undo all of the good will this character earned over the course of a trilogy, pulling everyone’s asses out of an existential fire? The implausibility jiggers the imagination.

You don’t need characters to be playable to sort their resolutions out; it’s definitely not something you need a 20-30 hour campaign of a character having to pull themself back together to accomplish. I’d much rather have a “where are they now” than “Ah shit, here we go again.” 

The question of people being disinterested in the new protagonist because of ME3 seems kind of ironic, because you claim that people aren’t interested in a sequel to Andromeda specifically because of its protagonist. Shouldn’t people be wary of Shepard because of ME3? 

Frankly, I don’t buy this argument about new protagonists in the slightest. People can claim they won’t be interested in a new protagonist, but these clowns will eat it up if it turns out to be good. I don’t buy for a single second that positive word of mouth would simply go ignored, “bEcAuSe AnDrOmEdA sUcKeD”. 

Incriminating evidence, council has no authority, as Garrus is not affiliated with them in any capacity, he is not a spectre, not even part of Palaven's military forces. He's a mercenary. War Hero or not, he was just found committing mass murder against a sentient species bordering on extinction. He's not getting a free pass.

Don't put up strawman arguments. It doesn't become you.

Oof....what? “Garrus is not affiliated with them in any capacity”. Boy, they finna drag you over this one. Garrus is essentially buddy-buddy with the Primarch, and organized efforts during the reaper war. This man’s basically got connections within the Turian meritocracy that goes all the way to the top. He’s not some nobody merc you can just fuck with. 

If anything, even a large number of Batarians would oppose this, knowing it would bring down the hammer of both the Hierarchy and the Alliance with the Council’s support. 

Only if he gets to do a dance number using a LOKI mech as his new body. 

What is his rank, then?


It wouldn't be illegal. First of all, in the event of the colony's decimation, what Batarian forces would orbit the colony would have authority to detain any and all ships near the colony. Furthermore, Garrus would be using a Batarian transport, which falls under Batarian jurisdiction. Since Garrus knows of his innocence, he would comply, perhaps even offer his services in aiding the forensic investigation. Until the evidence would point at him, in which case, he would be legally charged.

You are, in fact, putting up a strawman, assuming a logical course of events is not possible in a hypothetical scenario of simply a way something could be approached.

This isn't a discussion. This is a kangaroo court. And I fail to see reason to engage in a conversation that I will be found guilty regardless, due to your biased disposition.


Perhaps they would and fail. But they would most definitely not mount an offensive and declare war against a species that has every right to detain Garrus, based on the evidence they have found and are, as far as they are aware, damning of Garrus' guilt. Especially when that species is on the brink of extinction and may not recover that war. It would be a war crime of unprecedented magnitude. Not only would the Turians have declared open war, they would have denied Batarian sovereignty within their space, denied Batarian justice, denied damning evidence, but also condemn an entire sentient species to extinction, all for the sake of one Turian, war hero or not. And even in the event of the Batarians surviving, it would further decimate their forces, to the point where their survival would be entirely at the whims of pirates and raiders good will, since that would only expose them as weak and vulnerable. No. Galactic law would dictate that they cannot challenge Batarian authority, within Batarian space. Anything less, would compromise the very survival of the species.