The Mass Effect ending support group

I read the book. It had 6 races, quarian, batarian, drell, volus, hanar and elcor.

3 of those are reskinned humans (same animation skeleton) that'd take next to no effort at all beyond creating 3 models. They already put the batarian in the multiplayer even. Didn't seem difficult.

The other 3 were basically never animated in the previous trilogy anyway (aside from the Volus in ME3MP). I doubt any would be made combat squadmates, so really all that was needed for them to be NPCs is to create the models and maybe a simple walking animation.

I think you're overselling how much work would've been required.

Also, if it was sequel bait, it seems to have worked out no better than it being DLC bait, and for the same reason.

You know, I keep coming to this "support group" everyday but have yet to figure out how to dispense the whiskey. I must be missing the appropriate patch.

Excellent assessment of the current global situation. Stretches across every aspect of our lives, this disbelief in gray.



The animations barely improved after launch, this is why the meme remains. The meme material is still there in the fully patched game - I know, because it's the only way I ever played it.

It is a failure for the other reasons mentioned in this thread, specifically the financial one - it is the only metric that matters to investors.

What you aren't putting together is that while there exists plenty of gray in the world, there are also accepted metrics for many things. The game sold poorly, the MP did not make nearly the money that 3MP did, and that metric makes it a failure for the company. The company responded to this financial failure by ending support for the game early, and no DLC content added. This for many fans was a failure, as there are many empty hooks in the game waiting for exposition.

Finally, the defensiveness in this thread is understandable. Many of you loved the game, thought it was just the right thing. That is ok, and it is also ok to like something that is deemed a failure. The failure doesn't automatically transfer itself to someone because they liked the thing considered a failure. The Cheech and Chong movies are terrible in almost every possible way, yet they still amuse me and I love them. If someone tells me I like trash, I smile and nod my head.

this is an utterly absurd argument given all EA ever. EA has a very specific history in letting specific studios develop their own unique properties. Battlefield/ front is Dice, the sports are developped by their sports guys, bioware is only developping the main line mass effect games, and Dragon Age, and pretty much everything...which also stretches to the studios that have been shut down...no more dead space since its been shut down.

Which this argument is also a rather dramatic strawman considering that i don't think anyone considers Andromeda a smash sucess except for personally.

To paraphrase the current occupant of the White House...c'mon man.

According to most businesses, a failure is any product that did not facilitate growth, in comparison to its previous iteration.

Not on release, but eventually. Still, it was a regression from ME3's market performance and all metrics put it closer to ME2 market performance. And MEA's 2017 market is a whole different beast to the 2010 market of ME2. To put it another way, ME1 to ME3 saw a growth of 100% from title to title, while ME:A saw a 50% regression from its predecessor.

We've had this conversation together at least five times now. I would really appreciate it, if I did not have to quote EA's financial quarter investor call, the extremetech article that notes the excerpt of $150m from net sales of full game downloads that specific financial quarter, the wiki that has market analyst quotes that ME:A had sold in 2.5 million copies by the end of its first retail year. Frankly, I am tired of repeating myself.

So you won't ask me the next time.

And yet profit is the core aspect of growth. How much did they make over how much did they spend. So what is the profit ratio to determine growth?

If what you think the next game should be and do is a success though, that kills any chance of an Andromeda sequel since they’d just do sequels to that game instead. So according to you Andromeda fans are screwed either way.