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Post by phoray on Mar 3, 2021 21:54:07 GMT
My biggest sadness about the original reboot to start using Anthem Code was that I loved the character creator in DAI and just thought it needed moar. Additionally, I thought by reusing the assets of DAI, they wouldn't have to waste a bunch of time remaking old maps if they wanted to do a cool using the mirror network to visit old places. They could reuse, add more to show time had passed, sort of thing.
so does the regression to a none GAAS MP model mean they are using DAI assets or are they already too far into the Anthem asset creation to bother or...?
Also, all hail SP.
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Post by colfoley on Mar 3, 2021 23:08:43 GMT
My biggest sadness about the original reboot to start using Anthem Code was that I loved the character creator in DAI and just thought it needed moar. Additionally, I thought by reusing the assets of DAI, they wouldn't have to waste a bunch of time remaking old maps if they wanted to do a cool using the mirror network to visit old places. They could reuse, add more to show time had passed, sort of thing. so does the regression to a none GAAS MP model mean they are using DAI assets or are they already too far into the Anthem asset creation to bother or...? Also, all hail SP. I would think the latter. THough didn't BioWare make some tweet or something about future Character Creators? Maybe I was imagining it... or not.
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Post by Lebanese Dude on Mar 4, 2021 4:38:26 GMT
I always enjoyed Mass Effect multiplayer, but Dragon Age was weird.
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Post by Unicephalon 40-D on Mar 4, 2021 7:44:43 GMT
My biggest sadness about the original reboot to start using Anthem Code was that I loved the character creator in DAI and just thought it needed moar. Additionally, I thought by reusing the assets of DAI, they wouldn't have to waste a bunch of time remaking old maps if they wanted to do a cool using the mirror network to visit old places. They could reuse, add more to show time had passed, sort of thing. so does the regression to a none GAAS MP model mean they are using DAI assets or are they already too far into the Anthem asset creation to bother or...? Also, all hail SP. I would think the latter. THough didn't BioWare make some tweet or something about future Character Creators? Maybe I was imagining it... or not. One would guess they would reuse some of the assets, though with higher polycount instead of the ps3/x360 level they had to do in DAI... at least enviromental assets. Heads in CC I dunno.
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Post by qunaripenis on Mar 8, 2021 1:19:51 GMT
Listen, i'm trying so hard to pretend i'm sad they axed the live service and multiplayer from DA4 but my mind, body, and soul is just, right now, thinking
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Post by Sanunes on Mar 8, 2021 8:04:31 GMT
My biggest sadness about the original reboot to start using Anthem Code was that I loved the character creator in DAI and just thought it needed moar. Additionally, I thought by reusing the assets of DAI, they wouldn't have to waste a bunch of time remaking old maps if they wanted to do a cool using the mirror network to visit old places. They could reuse, add more to show time had passed, sort of thing. so does the regression to a none GAAS MP model mean they are using DAI assets or are they already too far into the Anthem asset creation to bother or...? Also, all hail SP. I doubt GAAS is that hard to add to a game that they needed to change from the version of the game engine they were using to a different variation to a more recent release. The difference is that going from Anthem instead of Dragon Age they are gaining years of improvement in the coding they developed for the engine for the five additional years of development. So that gives the the additional years of improvements and modifications they already have done instead of having to redo them again and allows them to jump ahead five years of development and improving from there. If you want to look at a possible reason for the reduction of character creator options I think it would be more likely BioWare's typical over reaction to the online mob. When Andromeda launched one of the first and loudest complaints was how "horrible" the lip syncing was. Having a selection of preset faces means they only have to animate for those faces instead of trying to predict how untold number of potential combinations would animate correctly.
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Post by Sanunes on Mar 8, 2021 8:05:35 GMT
I always enjoyed Mass Effect multiplayer, but Dragon Age was weird. My experience with the multiplayer in Dragon Age was definitely ruined by the bugs and issues that were there at launch. Not to mention the looter approach for loot drops.
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Post by Energizer Bunny 211 on Mar 8, 2021 16:03:43 GMT
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Hmm... They have a stronger hand than I thought. Lol, completely unrelated but having grown up on Thundercats and Sega, I always read your name as Linkso-Carina. It just occurred to me that that's wrong.
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Post by linksocarina on Jan 28, 2022 22:51:24 GMT
Hmm... They have a stronger hand than I thought. Lol, completely unrelated but having grown up on Thundercats and Sega, I always read your name as Linkso-Carina. It just occurred to me that that's wrong. Ive never heard that one before.
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Post by Beerfish on Jan 29, 2022 2:45:22 GMT
I always enjoyed Mass Effect multiplayer, but Dragon Age was weird. My experience with the multiplayer in Dragon Age was definitely ruined by the bugs and issues that were there at launch. Not to mention the looter approach for loot drops. Too bad they didn't get those things fixed earlier because it is much much more stable now and some bugs they never could figure out to start are no where to be found these days.
I am still playing it.
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Post by Unicephalon 40-D on Jan 29, 2022 8:52:06 GMT
My experience with the multiplayer in Dragon Age was definitely ruined by the bugs and issues that were there at launch. Not to mention the looter approach for loot drops. Too bad they didn't get those things fixed earlier because it is much much more stable now and some bugs they never could figure out to start are no where to be found these days.
I am still playing it.
Me too, but it is very clear the game balancing and some systems were left to their own devices so to say. Most glaring ones being player made staggers are negated the next hit (staggered enemy gets instantly up) and there is no gate time for enemy actions (archers can instantly hit you when they recover. instantly.), there is no gating for how many times enemies can stagger you (they can stagger you forever actually) etc. It is still nice MP game if one can handle the pain of steep climb and grind.
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Post by Sanunes on Jan 29, 2022 9:44:21 GMT
My experience with the multiplayer in Dragon Age was definitely ruined by the bugs and issues that were there at launch. Not to mention the looter approach for loot drops. Too bad they didn't get those things fixed earlier because it is much much more stable now and some bugs they never could figure out to start are no where to be found these days.
I am still playing it.
It would have been nice, for its one of those things that might have been good if the problems were not there. For me the biggest sin a game can have is making me feel like I wasted my time so when the MP match has to be abandoned due to the key not dropping or regularly having total party kills on the final boss on the lowest difficulty I don't stick around for long. I did try and go back a couple of times, but the lobbies were pretty much dead at that point with long waits for groups to form. The one thing I wish BioWare had done with all of the MP approaches (I include Anthem) is not being so focused on groups having to be four people in size. I probably would be playing some form of BioWare MP if they had allowed for solo or smaller groups, but its that feeling of wasting my time again for its hard to complete solo (or at least for me). The ability to scale is why I am still playing The Division 2 for sometimes I am playing solo or small groups of friends, but I am able to complete my missions the majority of time while not in a max group.
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Post by tommy6860 on Jan 31, 2022 16:14:08 GMT
In a nutshell, GOOD!
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Post by unlucky13 on Feb 13, 2022 23:13:07 GMT
As someone who has absolutely zero interest in playing online, this can only be a good thing.
While some games have done the live service deal really well - such as Assassin's Creed Odyssey, and kept the core of the single player experience going beyond the original release, most of it is just a way to take things away from people who aren't going to pay extra for more content.
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Post by Unicephalon 40-D on Feb 14, 2022 12:53:37 GMT
TBH I would not mind being without MP in next games, because of generally how buggy these have been and bolted on "last minute" style, except Anthem generally was in much better condition, but overall not so.
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Post by Adia on Feb 16, 2022 16:22:18 GMT
I just wanna state it - a few years ago I remember Casey Hudson saying that Anthem was experimental, that's why it didn't follow the Bioware formula exactly and moving forward we should expect existing IP's to remain the same as they've always been. The marketing for DA4 now feels so insidious - they were marketing a multiplayer game when they were aware we all expected a singleplayer game based on their previous word. I'm not blaming the devs, obviously. It's not their decision to make. And it doesn't matter now that it's singleplayer again. And to be fair, I'm not anti multiplayer. I would've played it either way. I just don't appreciate being mislead and lied to.
Ever since the move from multiplayer to singleplayer they've been so quiet. I'm guessing they had to restart on a lot of things (rewrites and such) so they don't have much to show. It's still puzzling to me how many times DA4 has been rebooted. It can't be a good sign :/ I'm hoping for the best but keeping my expectations in check
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Post by colfoley on Feb 16, 2022 18:15:42 GMT
I just wanna state it - a few years ago I remember Casey Hudson saying that Anthem was experimental, that's why it didn't follow the Bioware formula exactly and moving forward we should expect existing IP's to remain the same as they've always been. The marketing for DA4 now feels so insidious - they were marketing a multiplayer game when they were aware we all expected a singleplayer game based on their previous word. I'm not blaming the devs, obviously. It's not their decision to make. And it doesn't matter now that it's singleplayer again. And to be fair, I'm not anti multiplayer. I would've played it either way. I just don't appreciate being mislead and lied to. Ever since the move from multiplayer to singleplayer they've been so quiet. I'm guessing they had to restart on a lot of things (rewrites and such) so they don't have much to show. It's still puzzling to me how many times DA4 has been rebooted. It can't be a good sign :/ I'm hoping for the best but keeping my expectations in check where's your evidence it would have been a MP game on the scale of Anthem?
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Post by Adia on Feb 19, 2022 0:22:45 GMT
I just wanna state it - a few years ago I remember Casey Hudson saying that Anthem was experimental, that's why it didn't follow the Bioware formula exactly and moving forward we should expect existing IP's to remain the same as they've always been. The marketing for DA4 now feels so insidious - they were marketing a multiplayer game when they were aware we all expected a singleplayer game based on their previous word. I'm not blaming the devs, obviously. It's not their decision to make. And it doesn't matter now that it's singleplayer again. And to be fair, I'm not anti multiplayer. I would've played it either way. I just don't appreciate being mislead and lied to. Ever since the move from multiplayer to singleplayer they've been so quiet. I'm guessing they had to restart on a lot of things (rewrites and such) so they don't have much to show. It's still puzzling to me how many times DA4 has been rebooted. It can't be a good sign :/ I'm hoping for the best but keeping my expectations in check where's your evidence it would have been a MP game on the scale of Anthem? Multiplayer was going to be the focus this time around, lets not kid ourselves. There's a reason why the title of this thread is "DA4 is going to be SP game now" opposed to LS such as Anthem. There's a reason why they decided to repivot and stopped marketing altogether. I highly doubt the story wasn't rewritten to accommodate that change and I also doubt the game wasn't somewhat rebooted. My opinion, guess we'll know in a couple of years.
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Post by colfoley on Feb 19, 2022 0:26:32 GMT
where's your evidence it would have been a MP game on the scale of Anthem? Multiplayer was going to be the focus this time around, lets not kid ourselves. There's a reason why the title of this thread is "DA4 is going to be SP game now" opposed to LS such as Anthem. There's a reason why they decided to repivot and stopped marketing altogether. I highly doubt the story wasn't rewritten to accommodate that change and I also doubt the game wasn't somewhat rebooted. My opinion, guess we'll know in a couple of years. I mean lets not conflate live service with MP here. But otherwise I think part and parcel of the point is the whole title of the thread. We have multiple tweets and what not from devs going back years which point to the game more or less being in line with what we have come to expect from Dragon Age games to this point. And yet this title exists that says with definitive proof that DA is going to be a SP game like it wasn't always. Now I will admit the apparent release window of this game is probably the biggest indicator that you are right...but as far as it goes I will trust the people at BioWare over vague 'journalistic' insinuations.
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