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Post by Son of Dorn on May 1, 2021 1:46:09 GMT
I have a radical plan. We engineer a virus which alters asari DNA and turns them into Ardat-Yaskhi. This will forever end their ability to (peacefully) meld with other species to reproduce. The danger asari would present would also erode their cultural dominance and political standing. They'll become a galactic menace. There are risks of-course, but it's the only way. I've said a few times before. Have the salarians make a genophage for the asari not to mate with other species as punishment for not revealing the artifact earlier Or make humans immune to asari melding.
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The BioWare forum is over-rated and the users put too much stock into a public forum about fictional settings.
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Post by KaiserShep on May 1, 2021 6:51:12 GMT
How would it even be possible for the asari to be destroyed? Given the way they reproduce, even one is sufficient to repopulate their entire species. If they're destroyed, you won't have to worry about one being able to reproduce, right? Since asari reproducing is mentioned, the only way they reproduce is with the thorian as seen on Feros. They have a number of them on Thessia. When an asari wants a kid, she pushes some buttons on a console indicating what traits will be added, climbs in a plant pod, then presto, a ready made asari. No the thing is that it’s impossible to wipe out their population, since they’re mingling with other species in large numbers in every major hub.
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Post by natetrace on May 1, 2021 9:42:08 GMT
My spicy take is that whenever someone posts about their spicy take it’s quite terrible. Also it always baffles me when I see the ME2 had bad writing because it wasn’t directly dealing with the reapers. Thats part of what makes it my favorite. You could argue this case about nearly any middle entry of any game or movie. It’s almost always a bridge to the end. And Tali is great because she’s an alien, so she’s different, but won’t outlive you like Liara, so she’s similar. Writing in 3 is solid throughout the game. it was always going to end with the need to use an all powerful weapon to destroy the reapers. My spicy take: too many armchair game devs with spicy takes.
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Post by themikefest on May 1, 2021 10:45:29 GMT
If they're destroyed, you won't have to worry about one being able to reproduce, right? Since asari reproducing is mentioned, the only way they reproduce is with the thorian as seen on Feros. They have a number of them on Thessia. When an asari wants a kid, she pushes some buttons on a console indicating what traits will be added, climbs in a plant pod, then presto, a ready made asari. No the thing is that it’s impossible to wipe out their population, since they’re mingling with other species in large numbers in every major hub. In your version sure, but in mine, they are wiped out.
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Post by KaiserShep on May 1, 2021 10:48:45 GMT
No the thing is that it’s impossible to wipe out their population, since they’re mingling with other species in large numbers in every major hub. In your version sure, but in mine, they are wiped out. Well, my version is the official version, so nyeeehhhh.
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Post by mikaelnovasun on May 1, 2021 11:18:29 GMT
In your version sure, but in mine, they are wiped out. Can I cite some of your posts as an example of a xenophobe next time I am defending Ash? Not that I totally disagree with you about Asari, but what Ash says is tame in comparison.
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Post by mikaelnovasun on May 1, 2021 11:26:01 GMT
Having just completed an Ash ME3 I romance, I have to say that came across as about as well as some fanfics I read. My nostalgia goggles had me recalling it more cohesively and consistently written. Sad when a fan mod using pieced together and recycled dialog has a more real feel to a relationship.
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Post by gothpunkboy89 on May 1, 2021 12:19:34 GMT
My spicy take is that whenever someone posts about their spicy take it’s quite terrible. Also it always baffles me when I see the ME2 had bad writing because it wasn’t directly dealing with the reapers. Thats part of what makes it my favorite. You could argue this case about nearly any middle entry of any game or movie. It’s almost always a bridge to the end. And Tali is great because she’s an alien, so she’s different, but won’t outlive you like Liara, so she’s similar. Writing in 3 is solid throughout the game. it was always going to end with the need to use an all powerful weapon to destroy the reapers. My spicy take: too many armchair game devs with spicy takes. I agree with nearly everything you said save for the ME2 had bad writing. It is bad writing not because it wasn't directly dealing with the Reapers but because it didn't advance the plot at all. You are never given a reason for their actions or how it helps the Reapers. When Aragon, Gimli and Legalos makes a detour to Rohan not only are they trying to save their friends. But they are actively working to stop the now corrupted Sauruman who is working with Sauron from raising an orc army and crushing Rohan an long time ally of Gondor. The results of this being Rohan now free from the threat of Saurman can now ride to the aid of Gondor during the Battle of Pelennor Fields and is instrumental in breaking the siege of Gondor from the invading armies of Mordor.
ME2 even if they went with the under developed and over hyped dark energy plot, it didn't add anything to the over arching story and nothing done in ME2 has any effect on the continuing story line. In fact one of the biggest eye rolling moments in ME3 were Liara just happens to find the Crucible plans in the Mars Archive section that suddenly existed just as the Reapers invade the Sol system is a direct result of ME2 doing nothing to advance the plot.
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Post by natetrace on May 1, 2021 13:00:34 GMT
My spicy take is that whenever someone posts about their spicy take it’s quite terrible. Also it always baffles me when I see the ME2 had bad writing because it wasn’t directly dealing with the reapers. Thats part of what makes it my favorite. You could argue this case about nearly any middle entry of any game or movie. It’s almost always a bridge to the end. And Tali is great because she’s an alien, so she’s different, but won’t outlive you like Liara, so she’s similar. Writing in 3 is solid throughout the game. it was always going to end with the need to use an all powerful weapon to destroy the reapers. My spicy take: too many armchair game devs with spicy takes. I agree with nearly everything you said save for the ME2 had bad writing. It is bad writing not because it wasn't directly dealing with the Reapers but because it didn't advance the plot at all. You are never given a reason for their actions or how it helps the Reapers. When Aragon, Gimli and Legalos makes a detour to Rohan not only are they trying to save their friends. But they are actively working to stop the now corrupted Sauruman who is working with Sauron from raising an orc army and crushing Rohan an long time ally of Gondor. The results of this being Rohan now free from the threat of Saurman can now ride to the aid of Gondor during the Battle of Pelennor Fields and is instrumental in breaking the siege of Gondor from the invading armies of Mordor.
ME2 even if they went with the under developed and over hyped dark energy plot, it didn't add anything to the over arching story and nothing done in ME2 has any effect on the continuing story line. In fact one of the biggest eye rolling moments in ME3 were Liara just happens to find the Crucible plans in the Mars Archive section that suddenly existed just as the Reapers invade the Sol system is a direct result of ME2 doing nothing to advance the plot.
I get the Lord of the Rings, but I’d compare it to to when Shepard goes around recruiting people to stop the Reapers from using the Collectors to capture and liquify people to make a new reaper before the war even starts. In stopping this Shepard helps strengthen humanity for the war against the Reapers. Plus with Arrival Shepard delays the inevitable, just like killing Sovereign in 1 did. People could also criticize Empire for the entire middle being Luke training with Yoda and Han and Leia being stuck in a giant worm. Even after the end fight nothing has been gained for the third movie. Yet, it is considered the best. A New Hope is probably my favorite but nevertheless, Empire ranks supreme among many. And yes I remember playing back in 2012 when Liara unveils the crucible plans. I figured it would go that way anyway so I wasn’t too disappointed and ended up finding it a satisfying conclusion. I didn’t blame 2, projects change direction and the dark energy plot is only ever brought up a handful of times, on Haestrom and the flotilla. It was easy to scrap.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2021 13:55:21 GMT
Agreed, especially on the First Lady being better than Miranda. Better in every way, shape, and form.
Another spicy take is that most the females are better than Miranda. I could only argue for maybe being tied with Peebee, but...that's kinda it. I mean, I like Miranda, but I don't get the mass appeal/following she seems to have.
Skip Smash and she is the best sentinel the game offered us. Better than Alenko. So, from an ME2 perspective, some people may like her simply because she is damned effective in combat and can make AdeptShep a doom dealer.
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Post by gothpunkboy89 on May 1, 2021 14:23:14 GMT
I agree with nearly everything you said save for the ME2 had bad writing. It is bad writing not because it wasn't directly dealing with the Reapers but because it didn't advance the plot at all. You are never given a reason for their actions or how it helps the Reapers. When Aragon, Gimli and Legalos makes a detour to Rohan not only are they trying to save their friends. But they are actively working to stop the now corrupted Sauruman who is working with Sauron from raising an orc army and crushing Rohan an long time ally of Gondor. The results of this being Rohan now free from the threat of Saurman can now ride to the aid of Gondor during the Battle of Pelennor Fields and is instrumental in breaking the siege of Gondor from the invading armies of Mordor.
ME2 even if they went with the under developed and over hyped dark energy plot, it didn't add anything to the over arching story and nothing done in ME2 has any effect on the continuing story line. In fact one of the biggest eye rolling moments in ME3 were Liara just happens to find the Crucible plans in the Mars Archive section that suddenly existed just as the Reapers invade the Sol system is a direct result of ME2 doing nothing to advance the plot.
I get the Lord of the Rings, but I’d compare it to to when Shepard goes around recruiting people to stop the Reapers from using the Collectors to capture and liquify people to make a new reaper before the war even starts. In stopping this Shepard helps strengthen humanity for the war against the Reapers. Plus with Arrival Shepard delays the inevitable, just like killing Sovereign in 1 did. People could also criticize Empire for the entire middle being Luke training with Yoda and Han and Leia being stuck in a giant worm. Even after the end fight nothing has been gained for the third movie. Yet, it is considered the best. A New Hope is probably my favorite but nevertheless, Empire ranks supreme among many. And yes I remember playing back in 2012 when Liara unveils the crucible plans. I figured it would go that way anyway so I wasn’t too disappointed and ended up finding it a satisfying conclusion. I didn’t blame 2, projects change direction and the dark energy plot is only ever brought up a handful of times, on Haestrom and the flotilla. It was easy to scrap.
The Collectors have been targeting isolated small human colonies out in the lawless section of space. Purposefully far away from the Alliance or Council beyond their reach or jurisdiction. These are literal small homestead were all they have is what ever guns they have on hand and what ever self created government they agreed to make. If the Alliance is a 30 year old in their prime then these colonies are 1 year olds. They only have a couple hundred to maybe low thousand people to start with. No major manufacturing base. They are not strategic locations with stock plies of supplies because they are not associated with the Alliance. You could Thanos snap them out of existence and the Alliance would remain at 100% capability. Or to be generous go from 100% to 99.99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999%
How does creating a new Reaper help anything? The Citadel is still closed off to the Reapers. The various races of the galaxy are slowly reverse engineering the tech from Sovereign amplifying their abilities. As well as rebuilding their fleets. The Geth Heretics have been decimated and being hunted down by every race capable of space flight. Any incursions into Alliance Territory would be met by Alliance Fleets with at least token support from Turian, Salarian and Asari Fleets given this would be an unknown enemy that tries to kidnap entire planets. They would be decimated because the only straight up fight the SR-2 a heavy Frigate with upgraded Thanix canons that ups it's combat ability into Cruiser level fire power is able to decimate a Collector Cruiser easily. The only other fight was a single frigate caught unaware and alone with no support near by.
A single captured Collector ship would allow them to revers engineer the IFF they use to access the Omega Relay. Instead of a single ship with a handful of people it would be multiple ships with entire battalions assaulting the Collector base. Even if this drained some military forces and reduced the various races from 100% strentht to 75% strength. It doesn't matter because ME1 already made it crystal clear that you can not beat the Reapers in conventional warfare. At 100% or 50% all it would mean is a slight different to how long it would take before the Reapers won. Like dragging out a checker match by moving your one piece back and forth across the board to avoid it being taken but no real chance to actually take any of the other person's pieces.
In fact the one known example of Collector attack on an actual Alliance strong point with James Vega was the direct result of a Cerberus operative purposefully attracting them and sabotaging all efforts to stop them in the name of collecting data on their tech, methods and actions.
Your Star Wars example isn't quite the same as each movie is fairly stand alone. There was no build up to a massive Imperial invasion that the Rebel Alliance would have to deal with. This is why I used Lord of the Rings because it is a better comparison. As it goes out of the way to explicitly state how Sauron is preparing to attack all the free people of Middle Earth. And it shows how the actions of Two Towers has effects in then next book. Thane making up with his son isn't the same level as Eowyn slaying the Witch King.
With Mass Effect you could play ME1 and jump right into ME3 and have pretty much the same idea of what is happening. If you jump from Fellowship to Return you would be very lost and have no idea what is going on.
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Post by Radec on May 1, 2021 14:28:17 GMT
Another spicy take is that most the females are better than Miranda. I could only argue for maybe being tied with Peebee, but...that's kinda it. I mean, I like Miranda, but I don't get the mass appeal/following she seems to have.
Skip Smash and she is the best sentinel the game offered us. Better than Alenko. So, from an ME2 perspective, some people may like her simply because she is damned effective in combat and can make AdeptShep a doom dealer. Plus she provides that 15% squad weapon damage bonus with Cerberus Leader, which is probably the best passive in the game. Very useful to the two sniper classes early game Insanity in particular (without her+ kuwashii visor, you often end up leaving headshot targets with a sliver of health).
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Post by mikaelnovasun on May 1, 2021 14:37:01 GMT
Another spicy take is that most the females are better than Miranda. I could only argue for maybe being tied with Peebee, but...that's kinda it. I mean, I like Miranda, but I don't get the mass appeal/following she seems to have.
Skip Smash and she is the best sentinel the game offered us. Better than Alenko. So, from an ME2 perspective, some people may like her simply because she is damned effective in combat and can make AdeptShep a doom dealer. I may have to take a step back and reassess how I look at things. At first I read that as Skip THE Smash as in skip smashing her. She is one of my favorite squad mates due to how she makes Shepard more effective no matter the class. And another reason I wish she was part of the squad in ME3. I blame Chuck fans for saving that show and getting it a final season. If it was canceled as originally planned we would have likely had more Miranda in ME3.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2021 14:40:23 GMT
Skip Smash and she is the best sentinel the game offered us. Better than Alenko. So, from an ME2 perspective, some people may like her simply because she is damned effective in combat and can make AdeptShep a doom dealer. I may have to take a step back and reassess how I look at things. At first I read that as Skip THE Smash as in skip smashing her. She is one of my favorite squad mates due to how she makes Shepard more effective no matter the class. And another reason I wish she was part of the squad in ME3. I blame Chuck fans for saving that show and getting it a final season. If it was canceled as originally planned we would have likely had more Miranda in ME3. Hey bro, smash away! I just skip Smash as a power... Then I do my power smashing.
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Post by Phantom on May 1, 2021 17:33:48 GMT
Kai Leng has the best hair in the game.... and he should have saved Shepard from the Clone Shepard.... for reasons
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Post by mikaelnovasun on May 1, 2021 18:07:27 GMT
Kai Leng has the best hair in the game.... and he should have saved Shepard from the Clone Shepard.... for reasons You too? My Shepard gets lost in those cybernetic eyes while staring Kai Leng in the face as he is pierced by Shepard's omniblade.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on May 1, 2021 18:11:57 GMT
Kai Leng has the best hair in the game.... and he should have saved Shepard from the Clone Shepard.... for reasons "No one gets to kill Shepard except me!"
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Post by Radec on May 1, 2021 18:36:14 GMT
I want a Kai Leng stealth game where you get to steal Anderson's cereal.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2021 18:43:22 GMT
The BioWare forum is over-rated and the users put too much stock into a public forum about fictional settings. Are you telling me our forum about a mediocre science fiction story with 1,5 good games, three somewhat good books, horrible comics and movies is overrated?!?!111!01!!!!
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Post by SirSourpuss on May 1, 2021 18:44:49 GMT
three somewhat good books The books were never good.
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three somewhat good books The books were never good.
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Post by Phantom on May 1, 2021 19:02:12 GMT
Kai Leng has the best hair in the game.... and he should have saved Shepard from the Clone Shepard.... for reasons You too? My Shepard gets lost in those cybernetic eyes while staring Kai Leng in the face as he is pierced by Shepard's omniblade. Well Omniblade can be a stand in for something else and within a poorly written romance story, it is a stand in for something else
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Post by mikaelnovasun on May 1, 2021 19:22:45 GMT
You too? My Shepard gets lost in those cybernetic eyes while staring Kai Leng in the face as he is pierced by Shepard's omniblade. Well Omniblade can be a stand in for something else and within a poorly written romance story, it is a stand in for something else Kinda where my mind went as I finished writing that one. I pretty much ruined that scene for myself, and now need some brain bleach.
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Post by Phantom on May 1, 2021 19:41:22 GMT
Well Omniblade can be a stand in for something else and within a poorly written romance story, it is a stand in for something else Kinda where my mind went as I finished writing that one. I pretty much ruined that scene for myself, and now need some brain bleach. Well this is BSN. Weird stuff happens.
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