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Post by RedCaesar97 on Apr 30, 2021 20:35:51 GMT
I would hardly call any of this a spicy take. I'd call this a good idea. About half of the "spicy takes" in this thread are lukewarm opinions at best.
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Post by Psychevore on Apr 30, 2021 20:37:35 GMT
I think a Mass Effect MMO set in the original galaxy slightly before the story of ME1 would be fantastic. Imagine for a second that the game is actually good (something which MMOs, in my opinion, almost never are) and gets a big, stable playerbase. Over the course of years, we could have a fully developed galaxy, with all the homeworlds visitable (except Rannoch, cause you know... the Geth would kill you immediatly), all the capital cities as big hubs, a fully traversable and fleshed out Citadel and play all the species (except for, ya know, the Geth). I'd actually play that. You know, I read this and then people tell me that a ME3 that isn't about the Reaper War, but has the "possible" ME2 dead characters as party members is just unattainable. This requires 10x the work of ME3, whereas what I ask is maybe 1.2x the work. Oh yeah, let's just make the original trilogy not about the Reapers so you can play with Miranda. Excellent idea.
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Post by ahglock on Apr 30, 2021 20:37:43 GMT
To be fair, his point was simply how "successful" GTA is, in response to Hanko dismissing something as a "failure" simply because they don't like it. I don't think his point was really calculating for quality, or consumer friendliness or anything like that. And in that regard he is right. GTA V is unfortunately the most "successful" thing in the history of entertainment. You're right about everything you said though. Rockstar outright promised people single player DLCs, and never did it, and no one noticed or cared overall sadly. You're also right about the ridiculous tone of GTA V, it's kinda bonkers. That's why personally, GTA IV is the best GTA, and frankly on my best of all time list. The tone of the work is deadly serious and soul crushingly cynical, but it makes sense because it was made, and takes place during the Recession when everyone basically felt super cynical. 4 was definitely the height of the franchise, but it's not as if 5 is bad. It's still an excellent SP game, and while the online offering isn't my thing, it's well designed and does what it's supposed to. I can acknowledge that it definitely isn't a failure at anything. Rocktstar's other franchises also haven't gone to shit, quite the opposite (e.g. RDR2), so if you are bored of GTA not getting SP content they have other stuff on offer. In an alternate universe I'd love for Anthem to be making a shit zillion dollars off of rubes buying online trinkets, while ME/DA games are winning GOTY awards (as both ME2 and DAI managed), but I don't think that sort of thing is ever gonna happen for the studio again. They're lucky just to turn a profit within a year off the next entry at this point. 5 was pretty bad imo. Honestly 3-4 were top notch in how they nailed the themes they were going for. 5 felt disjointed and for me the creepy dude they went to far with. Not in what he did but to how it was basically to a laugh track.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2021 20:43:49 GMT
ME3MP is hands down the best thing in the ME Trilogy. Thus the original MET > MELE can ever be. Come at me MP scrubs! (Dons flame suit, grabs Ryncol...) I wish I still had 100 accounts to give this 100 likes. I would be so hyped for the MELE if it actually had MP. Now I dont even know if I'll buy the damn thing. Just imagine getting the high lord again, thats really all you need.
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Post by Spectr61 on Apr 30, 2021 20:51:33 GMT
ME3MP is hands down the best thing in the ME Trilogy. Thus the original MET > MELE can ever be. Come at me MP scrubs! (Dons flame suit, grabs Ryncol...) I wish I still had 100 accounts to give this 100 likes. I would be so hyped for the MELE if it actually had MP. Now I dont even know if I'll buy the damn thing. Just imagine getting the high lord again, thats really all you need. This. The High Lord Claymore speaks!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2021 21:01:27 GMT
I wish I still had 100 accounts to give this 100 likes. I would be so hyped for the MELE if it actually had MP. Now I dont even know if I'll buy the damn thing. Just imagine getting the high lord again, thats really all you need. This. The High Lord Claymore speaks!
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Post by themikefest on Apr 30, 2021 21:03:07 GMT
Shepard should have the option to let the geth be destroyed, when choosing the red, or letting the asari be destroyed I headcanon my Shepard to head back to the SR2, after the what-the-crap hug with t'soni on Illuim, to change clothing and armor, take a decomtamination shower, have a blood transfusion, get a rabbies and tetanus shot. Then scanned to make sure all the asari coodies are removed Zaeed has the best ending image of all characters in the trilogy
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Post by SirSourpuss on Apr 30, 2021 21:17:03 GMT
Oh yeah, let's just make the original trilogy not about the Reapers so you can play with Miranda. Excellent idea. It's good to know we share a few common viewpoints.
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Post by Radec on Apr 30, 2021 21:35:31 GMT
Shepard should have the option to let the geth be destroyed, when choosing the red, or letting the asari be destroyed Pick the asari every time. I wanted an option to Control the geth like the Morrigan Admiral was saying. Maybe with the right choices in the Tali mission (e.g. revealing the data to the Admirals) you can get enough political clout to get the idiot Loghain Admiral demoted to a tugboat captain after his dopey stunt shooting up the Dreadnought with another admiral on it. You replace him with someone more level headed who sees the utility of using them as disposable cannon fodder against the Reapers (just like the Krogan hah!) after you take down the Reaper signal. So you don't upgrade them with the Reaper crap. Instead you put the Legion machine back in the contraption and repurpose the signal to Control the Geth. Maybe include more Cerberus goodness (can always use more of them in the story) with Dr. Archer showing up from Project Overlord and helping you do this if you left the kid in the machine. If you took him out of it or skipped Overlord, you can't get this ending to the arc. It'd fit thematically with the blue ending. Destroying them is like....well the Destroy ending. And the Reaper code upload everyone is friends now crap is the green.
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Post by KaiserShep on Apr 30, 2021 22:19:03 GMT
Shepard should have the option to let the geth be destroyed, when choosing the red, or letting the asari be destroyed I headcanon my Shepard to head back to the SR2, after the what-the-crap hug with t'soni on Illuim, to change clothing and armor, take a decomtamination shower, have a blood transfusion, get a rabbies and tetanus shot. Then scanned to make sure all the asari coodies are removed Zaeed has the best ending image of all characters in the trilogy How would it even be possible for the asari to be destroyed? Given the way they reproduce, even one is sufficient to repopulate their entire species.
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Post by Radec on Apr 30, 2021 22:25:30 GMT
Shepard should have the option to let the geth be destroyed, when choosing the red, or letting the asari be destroyed I headcanon my Shepard to head back to the SR2, after the what-the-crap hug with t'soni on Illuim, to change clothing and armor, take a decomtamination shower, have a blood transfusion, get a rabbies and tetanus shot. Then scanned to make sure all the asari coodies are removed Zaeed has the best ending image of all characters in the trilogy How would it even be possible for the asari to be destroyed? Given the way they reproduce, even one individual is sufficient to reconstitute their entire species. Hire the shifty frogs to make another genophage. That should be the plot of ME5 tbh, physical removal of the blue xenos menace that nearly destroyed the galaxy.
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Post by KaiserShep on Apr 30, 2021 22:29:52 GMT
Meanwhile, the Salarians will probably get us into the Yagh War after their experiments go awry......again. We’ll probably have Yagh with varren thralls tearing across the galaxy, and somehow the frogs’ll get away scot-free.
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Post by obbie1984 on Apr 30, 2021 22:41:42 GMT
The aliens are extremely over-rated and behave just like humans. I'm unsure why fans go on and on about them when they basically act like most humans. I also don't like how characters like Garrus and Liara are kind of forced on you after ME1. You can dislike them in ME1, but by ME2 onward you are friends for life or something.
I also concur that ME3 MP is one of the best things in the franchise as well. It is preventing me from wanting to invest in MELE. I would have loved to see them remove all the glitches and issues with it running at 60 FPS.
Kaidan is one of the best written characters in the series. Don't know how "spicy" that is here, but in other places, people have acted like I'm insane for thinking this.
Liara is one of my most hated characters in any game I've played.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2021 22:49:12 GMT
How would it even be possible for the asari to be destroyed? Given the way they reproduce, even one individual is sufficient to reconstitute their entire species. Hire the shifty frogs to make another genophage. That should be the plot of ME5 tbh, physical removal of the blue xenos menace that nearly destroyed the galaxy. Can I keep a couple as sex slaves?
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Post by mikaelnovasun on Apr 30, 2021 23:08:23 GMT
Shepard should have the option to let the geth be destroyed, when choosing the red, or letting the asari be destroyed Pick the asari every time. I wanted an option to Control the geth like the Morrigan Admiral was saying. Maybe with the right choices in the Tali mission (e.g. revealing the data to the Admirals) you can get enough political clout to get the idiot Loghain Admiral demoted to a tugboat captain after his dopey stunt shooting up the Dreadnought with another admiral on it. You replace him with someone more level headed who sees the utility of using them as disposable cannon fodder against the Reapers (just like the Krogan hah!) after you take down the Reaper signal. So you don't upgrade them with the Reaper crap. Instead you put the Legion machine back in the contraption and repurpose the signal to Control the Geth. Maybe include more Cerberus goodness (can always use more of them in the story) with Dr. Archer showing up from Project Overlord and helping you do this if you left the kid in the machine. If you took him out of it or skipped Overlord, you can't get this ending to the arc. It'd fit thematically with the blue ending. Destroying them is like....well the Destroy ending. And the Reaper code upload everyone is friends now crap is the green. Morrigan Admiral...I am not Commander Shepard and this is favorite post on bsn. Now I want to romance her. I bet she isn't even a real quarian, maybe Morrigan managed to jump universes and is in disguise.
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Post by Radec on Apr 30, 2021 23:14:25 GMT
Hire the shifty frogs to make another genophage. That should be the plot of ME5 tbh, physical removal of the blue xenos menace that nearly destroyed the galaxy. Can I keep a couple as sex slaves? why bother when you can just take a way hotter and less smelly human girl and give her a silly hat and some body paint? humanity #1 even better than the xenos scum at looking like a xenos scum.
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Post by Son of Dorn on Apr 30, 2021 23:23:37 GMT
Shepard should have the option to let the geth be destroyed, when choosing the red, or letting the asari be destroyed I headcanon my Shepard to head back to the SR2, after the what-the-crap hug with t'soni on Illuim, to change clothing and armor, take a decomtamination shower, have a blood transfusion, get a rabbies and tetanus shot. Then scanned to make sure all the asari coodies are removed Zaeed has the best ending image of all characters in the trilogy How would it even be possible for the asari to be destroyed? Given the way they reproduce, even one is sufficient to repopulate their entire species. Easy. You set loose Sly Marbo on them. 😆😈👍
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Post by mikaelnovasun on Apr 30, 2021 23:24:28 GMT
The aliens are extremely over-rated and behave just like humans. I'm unsure why fans go on and on about them when they basically act like most humans. I also don't like how characters like Garrus and Liara are kind of forced on you after ME1. You can dislike them in ME1, but by ME2 onward you are friends for life or something. I also concur that ME3 MP is one of the best things in the franchise as well. It is preventing me from wanting to invest in MELE. I would have loved to see them remove all the glitches and issues with it running at 60 FPS. Kaidan is one of the best written characters in the series. Don't know how "spicy" that is here, but in other places, people have acted like I'm insane for thinking this. Liara is one of my most hated characters in any game I've played. I agree that Kaidan is well written. His sacrifice to ensure the bomb detonates is a great conclusion to his character arc. It was so well done that they canonized that part of ME1. See the Take Back Earth trailer for reference...both versions, because they are both canon.
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Post by Son of Dorn on Apr 30, 2021 23:25:04 GMT
Can I keep a couple as sex slaves? why bother when you can just take a way hotter and less smelly human girl and give her a silly hat and some body paint? humanity #1 even better than the xenos scum at looking like a xenos scum. Normally that'd be heresy, but I'll let that slide.
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Post by Radec on Apr 30, 2021 23:34:16 GMT
Pick the asari every time. I wanted an option to Control the geth like the Morrigan Admiral was saying. Maybe with the right choices in the Tali mission (e.g. revealing the data to the Admirals) you can get enough political clout to get the idiot Loghain Admiral demoted to a tugboat captain after his dopey stunt shooting up the Dreadnought with another admiral on it. You replace him with someone more level headed who sees the utility of using them as disposable cannon fodder against the Reapers (just like the Krogan hah!) after you take down the Reaper signal. So you don't upgrade them with the Reaper crap. Instead you put the Legion machine back in the contraption and repurpose the signal to Control the Geth. Maybe include more Cerberus goodness (can always use more of them in the story) with Dr. Archer showing up from Project Overlord and helping you do this if you left the kid in the machine. If you took him out of it or skipped Overlord, you can't get this ending to the arc. It'd fit thematically with the blue ending. Destroying them is like....well the Destroy ending. And the Reaper code upload everyone is friends now crap is the green. Morrigan Admiral...I am not command Shepard and this is favorite post on bsn. Now I want to romance her. I bet she isn't even a real quarian, maybe Morrigan managed to jump universes and is in disguise. There's a spicy take. Tali is lame, doesn't fit the tone of ME2, and I wish we had the option to recruit crazy Admiral Morrigan instead. While we're at it dump boy scout Garrus and give me the this cool dude as the turian instead.
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Post by themikefest on May 1, 2021 0:07:29 GMT
How would it even be possible for the asari to be destroyed? Given the way they reproduce, even one is sufficient to repopulate their entire species. If they're destroyed, you won't have to worry about one being able to reproduce, right? Since asari reproducing is mentioned, the only way they reproduce is with the thorian as seen on Feros. They have a number of them on Thessia. When an asari wants a kid, she pushes some buttons on a console indicating what traits will be added, climbs in a plant pod, then presto, a ready made asari.
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Post by Guardian on May 1, 2021 0:15:44 GMT
Another spicy take is that most the females are better than Miranda. I could only argue for maybe being tied with Peebee, but...that's kinda it. I mean, I like Miranda, but I don't get the mass appeal/following she seems to have. She's Space Evelyn Mulwray. What's not to like? And her interactions with Jack are always top tier.
*shrugs*
Like I said - I don't hate Miranda (I actually do enjoy her once she ditches the Cerberus brainwashing and opens up as a person), but what I'm saying is I just don't get why there's so much fawning over her is all. But each their own.
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Post by sassafrassa on May 1, 2021 1:27:44 GMT
Shepard should have the option to let the geth be destroyed, when choosing the red, or letting the asari be destroyed The asari present a long term existential threat to the other races. Due to their culture, every asari birth is -1 birth for another species. This is compounded by the fact that asari are so long lived so a relationship with a human, batarian, turian, drell, ect, is likely the entire lifetime for the non-asari, but merely one of many such unions for the asari partner. This is probably why the asari are no so numerous in the galaxy. In fact, they are the most populace species. Another factor in this is their cultural influence. This is of-course driven in part by their large population and accompanying economy, but another factor is probably all these asari/non-asari unions. When a human takes an asari as their partner they are probably going to want to seek economic and legal benefits as Alliance citizens. Their interests are now tied to their long-lived alien partner and any children she has, skewing the Systems Alliance's political priorities as with time a substantial portion of its citizenry is bound at the hip to an alien species. Doubtless this is an aspect of asari control over the galaxy. How would it even be possible for the asari to be destroyed? Given the way they reproduce, even one is sufficient to repopulate their entire species. If they're destroyed, you won't have to worry about one being able to reproduce, right? Since asari reproducing is mentioned, the only way they reproduce is with the thorian as seen on Feros. They have a number of them on Thessia. When an asari wants a kid, she pushes some buttons on a console indicating what traits will be added, climbs in a plant pod, then presto, a ready made asari. I have a radical plan. We engineer a virus which alters asari DNA and turns them into Ardat-Yaskhi. This will forever end their ability to (peacefully) meld with other species to reproduce. The danger asari would present would also erode their cultural dominance and political standing. They'll become a galactic menace. There are risks of-course, but it's the only way.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2021 1:32:56 GMT
Spicy take: Mass Effect 3 should be scrapped altogether. Instead we should have several games focusing on the MEU build, consolidating the various factions, with no Messiah overarc, just the average people in an unforgiving galaxy. The Reapers are the looming threat, but Arrival should have brought us years, not months. After about 3 shorter games focusing on the Citadel and C-sec, Omega and mercenaries (the first two less human-centric) and Human colonies, this three games fleshing out the MEU, that's when we should have the Reaper war. The games timespan should've lengthened as well, The reaper war happening 5 years after ME2, and the war itself happening over years, not months, maybe divided in two games. The Asari mental manipulation aluded in ME2 should've been made canon. It gives the hilarious asari face blunder in MEA a reason! None of Mac Walter's books/comics are good. Why not scrap ME2 and actually make it do... something to progress the overall story?
And make it less of a terrible 90s action movie while you're at it.
Because Miranda's butt makes me peepee happy.
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Post by themikefest on May 1, 2021 1:36:59 GMT
If they're destroyed, you won't have to worry about one being able to reproduce, right? Since asari reproducing is mentioned, the only way they reproduce is with the thorian as seen on Feros. They have a number of them on Thessia. When an asari wants a kid, she pushes some buttons on a console indicating what traits will be added, climbs in a plant pod, then presto, a ready made asari. I have a radical plan. We engineer a virus which alters asari DNA and turns them into Ardat-Yaskhi. This will forever end their ability to (peacefully) meld with other species to reproduce. The danger asari would present would also erode their cultural dominance and political standing. They'll become a galactic menace. There are risks of-course, but it's the only way. I've said a few times before. Have the salarians make a genophage for the asari not to mate with other species as punishment for not revealing the artifact earlier
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