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Post by mikaelnovasun on May 2, 2021 21:35:53 GMT
I dunno about all that...my Ryder was pretty secretly ruthless. She told Liam and his Angaran friend to F off, told Drax to stuff it cause were saving the Pathfinder, let Sarissa keep her secret and stay pathfinder, killed the Roaker leader and dared Jaal to say something about it, killed Peebee ex without question, kept the Roaekar data on the virus just incase we need to use it against them, exiled countless people, chose Sloan and shot Reyes, let Drax drop that guy he was hanging upside down, started a colony on Voled without Angaran permission, and more things that I cant remember off the type of my head. By end game, with her being the only one who knows the truth about the Initiative and the Milky Way...shes basically become the female Illusive Man. Milky Way first If your Ryder cucked to that clown Sloane and did her dirty work (which everyones does), then got your colony extorted by her, they were in no way "ruthless". Shepard would've blown that traitorous two bit thug's head off within 5 minutes of landing on that shithole, just like any number of low rent Mercenary scum, Weryloc's leaders and psychotic robots that got their bodies stacked throughout the trilogy. Theres no way to play a Ryder that isnt a doormat. You aren't even playing Ryder really. Ryder's motor functions are shot due brain damage and SAM is piloting Ryder's body. Its part of the reason why I lean towards male Ryder as canon along with the Cora romance. In one of the MEA prequel books Cora and SAM start flirting inside her head. The player as SAM "helps" Ryder make the decision to pursue a romance with her since SAM now has a body and can better experience the emotions he/it started to feel in the novel .
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on May 2, 2021 22:07:35 GMT
I dunno about all that...my Ryder was pretty secretly ruthless. She told Liam and his Angaran friend to F off, told Drax to stuff it cause were saving the Pathfinder, let Sarissa keep her secret and stay pathfinder, killed the Roaker leader and dared Jaal to say something about it, killed Peebee ex without question, kept the Roaekar data on the virus just incase we need to use it against them, exiled countless people, chose Sloan and shot Reyes, let Drax drop that guy he was hanging upside down, started a colony on Voled without Angaran permission, and more things that I cant remember off the type of my head. By end game, with her being the only one who knows the truth about the Initiative and the Milky Way...shes basically become the female Illusive Man. Milky Way first If your Ryder cucked to that clown Sloane and did her dirty work (which everyones does), then got your colony extorted by her, they were in no way "ruthless". Shepard would've blown that traitorous two bit thug's head off within 5 minutes of landing on that shithole, just like any number of low rent Mercenary scum, Weryloc's leaders and psychotic robots that got their bodies stacked throughout the trilogy. Theres no way to play a Ryder that isnt a doormat. Then there’s no way to play a Shepard that isn’t a doormat either, since Shepard is far worse with Aria than Ryder is with Sloane. At least Ryder stands up to Sloane and can go against her wishes, unlike Shepard who might complain but still always does what Aria wants.
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Post by Radec on May 2, 2021 22:25:59 GMT
If your Ryder cucked to that clown Sloane and did her dirty work (which everyones does), then got your colony extorted by her, they were in no way "ruthless". Shepard would've blown that traitorous two bit thug's head off within 5 minutes of landing on that shithole, just like any number of low rent Mercenary scum, Weryloc's leaders and psychotic robots that got their bodies stacked throughout the trilogy. Theres no way to play a Ryder that isnt a doormat. Then there’s no way to play a Shepard that isn’t a doormat either, since Shepard is far worse with Aria than Ryder is with Sloane. At least Ryder stands up to Sloane and can go against her wishes, unlike Shepard who might complain but still always does what Aria wants. Nope, Aria never tells me to get out of her face and then my character slinks away like a cuck. Aria is in fact entirely helpful, serving as useful intel source and eventually powerful ally in the Reaper war. Sloane is nothing but an obstruction that extorts the Nexus if I dont remove her (or rather watch someone else remove her, because Ryder is too chickenshit). We have no reason not to put a bullet in her ugly mug when we take that gun from her pathetic goon, save that Ryder has no balls. Further, Aria controls the Terminus i.e. about half of the MW galaxy, and thus significant forces that could complicate Shepard's mission. She is a relative equal to Shepard that is worthy of respect and for whom opposing gains nothing. Sloane is a degenerate gang leader that has no influence outside of 1 little port, and barely even that with the Collective able to undermine her even there. That smug Eclipse merc whom my Shepard broke the neck of as an afterthought commands more respect. No, lil' Ryder is as their name suggests, nothing but a sub who takes, rather than dishes out.
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Post by mtheillusive on May 2, 2021 22:56:51 GMT
Then there’s no way to play a Shepard that isn’t a doormat either, since Shepard is far worse with Aria than Ryder is with Sloane. At least Ryder stands up to Sloane and can go against her wishes, unlike Shepard who might complain but still always does what Aria wants. Nope, Aria never tells me to get out of her face and then my character slinks away like a cuck. Aria is in fact entirely helpful, serving as useful intel source and eventually powerful ally in the Reaper war. Sloane is nothing but an obstruction that extorts the Nexus if I dont remove her (or rather watch someone else remove her, because Ryder is too chickenshit). We have no reason not to put a bullet in her ugly mug when we take that gun from her pathetic goon, save that Ryder has no balls. Further, Aria controls the Terminus i.e. about half of the MW galaxy, and thus significant forces that could complicate Shepard's mission. She is a relative equal to Shepard that is worthy of respect and for whom opposing gains nothing. Sloane is a degenerate gang leader that has no influence outside of 1 little port, and barely even that with the Collective able to undermine her even there. That smug Eclipse merc whom my Shepard broke the neck of as an afterthought commands more respect. No, lil' Ryder is as their name suggests, nothing but a sub who takes, rather than dishes out. Well, Shepard was a doormat to the Illusive Man in the VAST majority of 2. And Anderson. And Hackett. And Ryder never got trolled on by...Kai Leng I mean...IS there a reason Shepard didn't just shoot the roof of the car, or save Thane/Karahee/whomever from dying as they just stood there? Was he/she in awe? Don't tell me big bad Shepard was scurred
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Post by Radec on May 2, 2021 23:04:43 GMT
Nope, Aria never tells me to get out of her face and then my character slinks away like a cuck. Aria is in fact entirely helpful, serving as useful intel source and eventually powerful ally in the Reaper war. Sloane is nothing but an obstruction that extorts the Nexus if I dont remove her (or rather watch someone else remove her, because Ryder is too chickenshit). We have no reason not to put a bullet in her ugly mug when we take that gun from her pathetic goon, save that Ryder has no balls. Further, Aria controls the Terminus i.e. about half of the MW galaxy, and thus significant forces that could complicate Shepard's mission. She is a relative equal to Shepard that is worthy of respect and for whom opposing gains nothing. Sloane is a degenerate gang leader that has no influence outside of 1 little port, and barely even that with the Collective able to undermine her even there. That smug Eclipse merc whom my Shepard broke the neck of as an afterthought commands more respect. No, lil' Ryder is as their name suggests, nothing but a sub who takes, rather than dishes out. Well, Shepard was a doormat to the Illusive Man in the VAST majority of 2. And Anderson. And Hackett. And Ryder never got trolled on by...Kai Leng I mean...IS there a reason Shepard didn't just shoot the roof of the car, or save Thane/Karahee/whomever from dying as they just stood there? Was he/she in awe? No reason not to work with TIM. He's the only galactic power player doing anything about Reapers at that point in the story. I guess you can headcanon going to Anderscum and the lolCouncil after Freedoms Progress, then put your controller down and let the Reapers win when those useless clowns decide to do nothing. I have no defense of Shepards cutscene incompetence vis a vis Leng, save that it was a product of ME3, and ME3 is mostly bad GoW clone shlock, where every character gets ruined to a degree, not just Shep (still not anywhere near Ryder bad tho). At least Leng still gets fucked in the end, unlike that random nobody looter NPC that told my Ryder to fuck off and got away scot free.
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Post by 10k on May 2, 2021 23:10:13 GMT
Nope, Aria never tells me to get out of her face and then my character slinks away like a cuck. Aria is in fact entirely helpful, serving as useful intel source and eventually powerful ally in the Reaper war. Sloane is nothing but an obstruction that extorts the Nexus if I dont remove her (or rather watch someone else remove her, because Ryder is too chickenshit). We have no reason not to put a bullet in her ugly mug when we take that gun from her pathetic goon, save that Ryder has no balls. Further, Aria controls the Terminus i.e. about half of the MW galaxy, and thus significant forces that could complicate Shepard's mission. She is a relative equal to Shepard that is worthy of respect and for whom opposing gains nothing. Sloane is a degenerate gang leader that has no influence outside of 1 little port, and barely even that with the Collective able to undermine her even there. That smug Eclipse merc whom my Shepard broke the neck of as an afterthought commands more respect. No, lil' Ryder is as their name suggests, nothing but a sub who takes, rather than dishes out. Well, Shepard was a doormat to the Illusive Man in the VAST majority of 2. And Anderson. And Hackett.And Ryder never got trolled on by...Kai Leng I mean...IS there a reason Shepard didn't just shoot the roof of the car, or save Thane/Karahee/whomever from dying as they just stood there? Was he/she in awe? Don't tell me big bad Shepard was scurred How so? In all of these cases Shep was working with the three to further the same goal. There were numerous of times Shep could disagree with TIM. Even when Shep first meets TIM, and he's telling Shep what he wants him to do. There's an option where Shep holds up his hand and says "Wait we're doing this my way" There's also another dialogue option the player can pick where Shep says "I don't take orders from you" at which point TIM backs down and state "It was only a suggestion" at no point does TIM treat Shep as a doormat. But there has been numerous times in Andromeda where Ryder doesn't even reprimand his own crew, when they act out of line.
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Post by alanc9 on May 2, 2021 23:27:37 GMT
So... this is what we're going to be doing until MELE actually releases?
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Post by mikaelnovasun on May 2, 2021 23:50:52 GMT
How so? In all of these cases Shep was working with the three to further the same goal. There were numerous of times Shep could disagree with TIM. Even when Shep first meets TIM, and he's telling Shep what he wants him to do. There's an option where Shep holds up his hand and says "Wait we're doing this my way" There's also another dialogue option the player can pick where Shep says "I don't take orders from you" at which point TIM backs down and state "It was only a suggestion" at no point does TIM treat Shep as a doormat. But there has been numerous times in Andromeda where Ryder doesn't even reprimand his own crew, when they act out of line. Not until Liam did I EVER want to off one of my ME squad mates.....The douche puts a colony at risk, and then blows it off like it is nothing. Ryder gives him the equivalent of a smack with a wet noodle as a reprimand. A few missions later the idiot is setting up some type of illegal deal in a freaking public square on a planet that is normally closed to visitors and while Ryder is trying to set up diplomatic relations. And Ryder just goes with it.
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Post by 10k on May 2, 2021 23:57:13 GMT
How so? In all of these cases Shep was working with the three to further the same goal. There were numerous of times Shep could disagree with TIM. Even when Shep first meets TIM, and he's telling Shep what he wants him to do. There's an option where Shep holds up his hand and says "Wait we're doing this my way" There's also another dialogue option the player can pick where Shep says "I don't take orders from you" at which point TIM backs down and state "It was only a suggestion" at no point does TIM treat Shep as a doormat. But there has been numerous times in Andromeda where Ryder doesn't even reprimand his own crew, when they act out of line. Not until Liam did I EVER want to off one of my ME squad mates.....The douche puts a colony at risk, and then blows it off like it is nothing. Ryder gives him the equivalent of a smack with a wet noodle as a reprimand. A few mission later the idiot is setting up an some type of illegal deal in a freaking public square on a planet that is normally closed to visitors and while Ryder is trying to set up diplomatic relations. And Ryder just goes with it. PeeBee is the one who upset me the most by launching a life pod with Ryder and crew into an active volcano. At no point could I slap her, or at the very least yell at her. Ryder just makes a joke out of it. Even as something as small as an argument between crew mates. Shep can tell them basically to shut the fuck up and deal with it. Ryder on the other hand does nothing, or jokes are made when the player wants to be serious.
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Post by mikaelnovasun on May 3, 2021 0:11:23 GMT
Not until Liam did I EVER want to off one of my ME squad mates.....The douche puts a colony at risk, and then blows it off like it is nothing. Ryder gives him the equivalent of a smack with a wet noodle as a reprimand. A few mission later the idiot is setting up an some type of illegal deal in a freaking public square on a planet that is normally closed to visitors and while Ryder is trying to set up diplomatic relations. And Ryder just goes with it. PeeBee is the one who upset me the most by launching a life pod with Ryder and crew into an active volcano. At no point could I slap her, or at the very least yell at her. Ryder just makes a joke out of it. Even as something as small as an argument between crew mates. Shep can tell them basically to shut the fuck up and deal with it. Ryder on the other hand does nothing, or jokes are made when the player wants to be serious. Yea that one pissed me off too. At least she seemed to learn from it and actually grew as a character realizing she needed to work as part of the team. While Liam sits on that stupid couch going, "Its all cool bro" and shows no growth. But Ryder is a freaking joke in both situations.
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Post by themikefest on May 3, 2021 0:29:52 GMT
Not until Liam did I EVER want to off one of my ME squad mates.....The douche puts a colony at risk, and then blows it off like it is nothing. Ryder gives him the equivalent of a smack with a wet noodle as a reprimand. A few mission later the idiot is setting up an some type of illegal deal in a freaking public square on a planet that is normally closed to visitors and while Ryder is trying to set up diplomatic relations. And Ryder just goes with it. PeeBee is the one who upset me the most by launching a life pod with Ryder and crew into an active volcano. At no point could I slap her, or at the very least yell at her. Ryder just makes a joke out of it. Even as something as small as an argument between crew mates. Shep can tell them basically to shut the fuck up and deal with it. Ryder on the other hand does nothing, or jokes are made when the player wants to be serious. Ryder has the I don't care attitude. As far as the peepee asari goes, forgetting about the other crap involving her, she tells Ryder she prefers working alone. For me, that's a no go to be on the roster. If you can't be a team player, I have no use for you. Ryder should know that being in the Alliance. Then again, it appears whatever little Ryder learned in the Alliance went in one ear and out the other.
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Post by gothpunkboy89 on May 3, 2021 0:35:03 GMT
So... this is what we're going to be doing until MELE actually releases? How is this any different then every other day on this forum?
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Post by marshalmoriarty on May 3, 2021 0:43:12 GMT
My biggest issue with ME has to be the dubious continuity of ME2 and the way Sheperd literally throws away his whole life on a vague tip from a known terrorist. Over a decade of loyal service, friends, comrades, everything. Just to chase the possibility of the Reapers being involved and ignoring all his actual responsibilities to the Alliance and Spectres. The fact that its never built up as any kind of big deal emotionally or that he doesn't feel *any* trepidation flying the colours of such an infamous group made it impossible to view Sheperd as an actual person anymore. From then on, Sheperd just seemed like John Hero: Space Adventurer!
The galaxy also feels like its moved forward culturally waaaay too far in just 2 years. ME1 established that because of the First Contact War and the generally different more full throttle approach to life than the unhurried pace of the galactic community, it was still very early days in terms of human integration in the galaxy. Vets like Sheperd and Kaiden hadn't even visited the Citadel ever before ME1 due to only recently thawing tensions with the Alliance military and the Council races. Yet in ME2 after just 2 years all of that tension and slow path to coexistence has completely evaporated.
Yes there would be progress and its not like its all peace and harmony but it feels like warp speed change even in human years - 2 years is a blink of the eye culturally but to long lived aliens used to a galaxy with minimal contact with and understanding of humans? There's no way it would happen so fast. The perceived time gap in terms of cultural integration looks closer to 10 years than the 2 which is stated. And such a time skip would sell the whole premise far better IMO. It would lend more credence to TIM's pitch if he could say 'That life has passed you by, there's no career to go back to after a decade and in all that time they've done jack about the Reapers'.
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Post by pessimistpanda on May 3, 2021 0:52:26 GMT
This obsession with needing to play an "alpha male" is hilariously sad.
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Post by pessimistpanda on May 3, 2021 0:56:33 GMT
And people wanting to play as an explicit racist is deeply concerning.
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Post by 10k on May 3, 2021 0:57:10 GMT
This obsession with needing to play an "alpha male" is hilariously sad. It's not about playing "alpha male" it's about standing up for yourself, and having standards. If you don't respect yourself, no one else will. I play my FemShep this way as well; a no-nonsense leader. It's better than taking orders from a clown.
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Post by mikaelnovasun on May 3, 2021 0:57:54 GMT
My biggest issue with ME has to be the dubious continuity of ME2 and the way Sheperd literally throws away his whole life on a vague tip from a known terrorist. Over a decade of loyal service, friends, comrades, everything. Just to chase the possibility of the Reapers being involved and ignoring all his actual responsibilities to the Alliance and Spectres. The fact that its never built up as any kind of big deal emotionally or that he doesn't feel *any* trepidation flying the colours of such an infamous group made it impossible to view Sheperd as an actual person anymore. From then on, Sheperd just seemed like John Hero: Space Adventurer! The galaxy also feels like its moved forward culturally waaaay too far in just 2 years. ME1 established that because of the First Contact War and the generally different more full throttle approach to life than the unhurried pace of the galactic community, it was still very early days in terms of human integration in the galaxy. Vets like Sheperd and Kaiden hadn't even visited the Citadel ever before ME1 due to only recently thawing tensions with the Alliance military and the Council races. Yet in ME2 after just 2 years all of that tension and slow path to coexistence has completely evaporated. Yes there would be progress and its not like its all peace and harmony but it feels like warp speed change even in human years - 2 years is a blink of the eye culturally but to long lived aliens used to a galaxy with minimal contact with and understanding of humans? There's no way it would happen so fast. The perceived time gap in terms of cultural integration looks closer to 10 years than the 2 which is stated. And such a time skip would sell the whole premise far better IMO. It would lend more credence to TIM's pitch if he could say 'That life has passed you by, there's no career to go back to after a decade and in all that time they've done jack about the Reapers'. You need to shorten that to one paragraph because I am a primitive, knuckle dragging, alpha male and have a relatively short attention span unless it is involves a female.
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Post by marshalmoriarty on May 3, 2021 1:07:55 GMT
Alright then. Leisure Suit Larry 2 has better continuity than ME2.
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Post by mikaelnovasun on May 3, 2021 1:23:55 GMT
Alright then. Leisure Suit Larry 2 has better continuity than ME2. I wouldn't be surprised to find that true. In all seriousness though I agree with most of your previous points. ME2's strength lies in its characters, and how your actions/choices determine the outcome. In my first play of ME2 when Garrus died, I was shocked and wondered wtf did I do to screw that up. As much as I love ME1 you didn't feel the weight of all the choices you made at the end of that game. Most didn't pay off till 3, and many of those fell flat. Looking at you Virmire...
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Post by 10k on May 3, 2021 1:32:01 GMT
And people wanting to play as an explicit racist is deeply concerning. I just prefer the human species. There's nothing wrong with that. I think it would be great to be able to play more of a pro-human character. People should be more pro-human, hell even in the real world we need more pro-human sentiment, maybe it'd create less division among ourselves.
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Post by Radec on May 3, 2021 1:39:41 GMT
This obsession with needing to play an "alpha male" is hilariously sad. Nobody said anything about "alpha" or "male", so if you're ascribing strength of character to those types of things (and by extension weakness to the opposite) well....more a projection of your own problems. I dont actually care if someone desires to play a weak, incompetent and feckless character in a leadership position. It doesn't make much sense based on the rules of our world, but then this is just an escapist fantasy. You do you. Problem is that for Shepard that personality type was one of many options, for Ryder it's the only option. This is regression from a roleplay perspective. Bio needs to do better.
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Post by marshalmoriarty on May 3, 2021 1:45:50 GMT
I'm a ME1 fan myself and I agree with most of that. I agree about the characters being the root of ME2's true quality. Not sure about the choices though - I mean you don't really make many choices in that game (at least in terms of the main plot and most truly important decisions are out of your hands (you must work for Cerberus, you must initiate a fatal prison riot to recruit a mentally unstable criminal, you must let Liara be the Shadow Broker etc etc).
There is the Suicide mission but that does suffer a few boneheaded moments (enforcing instant acceptence of the SM to save the whole crew when you can usually delay supposedly urgent missions indefinately is unfairly moving the goalposts without telling you and essentially forces you to leave recruiting Legion so late that he's barely in the game, shouldn't you already have protection from Seeker Swarms, would sending 1 guy to escort your crew really make any difference, why can't Adept Shep do the barrier or Engineer Shep handle the doors etc etc etc).
It still works but like all of ME2 you have to take it for what it is - a decently enjoyable alien abduction Bond film caper that frankly has hardly anything to do with the ongoing story. And which left ME3 with so much to do that it had no chance of being even a remotely credible conclusion to the trilogy.
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Post by mtheillusive on May 3, 2021 1:50:37 GMT
How so? In all of these cases Shep was working with the three to further the same goal. There were numerous of times Shep could disagree with TIM. Even when Shep first meets TIM, and he's telling Shep what he wants him to do. There's an option where Shep holds up his hand and says "Wait we're doing this my way" There's also another dialogue option the player can pick where Shep says "I don't take orders from you" at which point TIM backs down and state "It was only a suggestion" at no point does TIM treat Shep as a doormat. But there has been numerous times in Andromeda where Ryder doesn't even reprimand his own crew, when they act out of line. If you choose the more serious, logical dialogue choices (which sounds better on Lady Ryder imo, as Male Ryder sounds better as sarcastic), they kind of do (or blatantly do). Now could they have took things further, like space Liam out the airlock? Certainly! But to say its not there at all...
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Post by KaiserShep on May 3, 2021 1:52:37 GMT
So... this is what we're going to be doing until MELE actually releases? Until....during....after. The old ways have been reborn. Praise be to Biower.
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