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Post by mtheillusive on May 3, 2021 1:56:22 GMT
So... this is what we're going to be doing until MELE actually releases? Until....during....after. The old ways have been reborn. Praise be to Biower. Wait till the old players start talking about the ending once the game comes out. Can't wait. Got LOTS of popcorn!
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Post by Son of Dorn on May 3, 2021 1:58:36 GMT
Until....during....after. The old ways have been reborn. Praise be to Biower. Wait till the old players start talking about the ending once the game comes out. Can't wait. Got LOTS of popcorn! And the vodka! Don't forget the vodka!😋
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Post by KaiserShep on May 3, 2021 2:00:40 GMT
Until....during....after. The old ways have been reborn. Praise be to Biower. Wait till the old players start talking about the ending once the game comes out. Can't wait. Got LOTS of popcorn! The best part is that there’s probably this inkling of hope that the endings will somehow be altered, to the point where the narrative will somehow warp into it being expected, and when the endings end up being the same, the anger ensues, because their own promise to themselves was not fulfilled.
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Post by The Elder King on May 3, 2021 2:01:09 GMT
This obsession with needing to play an "alpha male" is hilariously sad. Nobody said anything about "alpha" or "male", so if you're ascribing strength of character to those types of things (and by extension weakness to the opposite) well....more a projection of your own problems. I dont actually care if someone desires to play a weak, incompetent and feckless character in a leadership position. It doesn't make much sense based on the rules of our world, but then this is just an escapist fantasy. You do you. Problem is that for Shepard that personality type was one of many options, for Ryder it's the only option. This is regression from a roleplay perspective. Bio needs to do better. I’d question when exactly, or which options really allowed us to roleplay Shepard as ‘weak’. Incompetent, depending on certain decision on either side, I can see. Not really weak or feckless, though. I’d say I found Ryder, personally, more limited to RP compared to Shepard, I’d give you that.
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Post by mikaelnovasun on May 3, 2021 2:15:13 GMT
Wait till the old players start talking about the ending once the game comes out. Can't wait. Got LOTS of popcorn! The best part is that there’s probably this inkling of hope that the endings will somehow be altered, to the point where the narrative will somehow warp into it being expected, and when the endings end up being the same, the anger ensues, because their own promise to themselves was not fulfilled. As much as we are all harping and poking fun at ME in this thread, I get a sense of genuine enjoyment of the series despite it flaws. It will be interesting to see what the new bloods to the series will think of the endings. Especially since they get to the miss out on the glory that was the original choice of RBG. I wonder if that youtube video is still out there with the original 3 endings side by side.
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Post by 10k on May 3, 2021 2:19:35 GMT
Until....during....after. The old ways have been reborn. Praise be to Biower. Wait till the old players start talking about the ending once the game comes out. Can't wait. Got LOTS of popcorn! It's funny, because today I started watching ME3 ending analyst videos again and started to get angry again. Can't wait for that shit storm again.
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Post by regack on May 3, 2021 2:21:35 GMT
Until....during....after. The old ways have been reborn. Praise be to Biower. Wait till the old players start talking about the ending once the game comes out. Can't wait. Got LOTS of popcorn! I'm not sure why I didn't add this before...
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Post by Guardian on May 3, 2021 3:07:08 GMT
So... this is what we're going to be doing until MELE actually releases? Until....during....after. The old ways have been reborn. Praise be to Biower.
\(*.*)\ \(*.*)\ ALL PRAISE BE TO BIOWARE! \(*.*)\ \(*.*)\
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Post by pessimistpanda on May 3, 2021 4:06:38 GMT
This obsession with needing to play an "alpha male" is hilariously sad. Nobody said anything about "alpha" or "male", so if you're ascribing strength of character to those types of things (and by extension weakness to the opposite) well....more a projection of your own problems. I dont actually care if someone desires to play a weak, incompetent and feckless character in a leadership position. It doesn't make much sense based on the rules of our world, but then this is just an escapist fantasy. You do you. Problem is that for Shepard that personality type was one of many options, for Ryder it's the only option. This is regression from a roleplay perspective. Bio needs to do better. What else am I supposed to infer when people complain about Ryder behaving like a "sub" or "cuck"? We're not talking about sexual situations, so it can only be the Reddit definition. "Nobody said the WORDS 'alpha male' ahyuckhyuckhyuck" wow, that is iron-clad. Boy do I have egg on my face.
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Post by gothpunkboy89 on May 3, 2021 4:34:14 GMT
Until....during....after. The old ways have been reborn. Praise be to Biower. Wait till the old players start talking about the ending once the game comes out. Can't wait. Got LOTS of popcorn! Not really convinced anything will change. People still use head canon as an attempt to deflect away from addressing arguments or as a last ditch effort to validate theirs. Anyone that strays to far from "acceptable" thoughts is deemed a moron or troll when they fail to bow to the superior opinions. And people still rely heavily on appeal to popularity to validate their ideas.
Pretty much par the course for here.
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Post by Radec on May 3, 2021 13:32:32 GMT
Nobody said anything about "alpha" or "male", so if you're ascribing strength of character to those types of things (and by extension weakness to the opposite) well....more a projection of your own problems. I dont actually care if someone desires to play a weak, incompetent and feckless character in a leadership position. It doesn't make much sense based on the rules of our world, but then this is just an escapist fantasy. You do you. Problem is that for Shepard that personality type was one of many options, for Ryder it's the only option. This is regression from a roleplay perspective. Bio needs to do better. What else am I supposed to infer when people complain about Ryder behaving like a "sub" or "cuck"? We're not talking about sexual situations, so it can only be the Reddit definition. "Nobody said the WORDS 'alpha male' ahyuckhyuckhyuck" wow, that is iron-clad. Boy do I have egg on my face. I don't know, I'm not the type who ascribes strength or weakness to a gender. That's in your head. The character seemingly was written by someone with a humiliation fetish. Didn't say if they were male, female, or attack helicopter. Frankly I don't know, or care. At least you know. Admitting you made a fool of yourself takes courage.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2021 14:36:31 GMT
Boy do I have egg on my face. Yes, yes you do. Your incivility is evidenced everytime you load unsaid words into other people's posts. You have been doing this for a long time, and somehow get a pass for what is really anti-social behavior. You instantiated "alpha male" here, and it is truly your instance and no one else's.
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Post by themikefest on May 3, 2021 15:50:13 GMT
After the reapers have been destroyed, the council will look at the goodness Cerberus showed in helping Shepard defeat the collectors. Because of that, they come to the conclusion that Cerberus were victims in the reaper war to be used against the galaxy. After that, Miranda rebuilds Cerberus to their former glory.
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Post by Radec on May 3, 2021 15:58:02 GMT
Yes, yes you do. Your incivility is evidenced everytime you load unsaid words into other people's posts. You have been doing this for a long time, and somehow get a pass for what is really anti-social behavior. You instantiated "alpha male" here, and it is truly your instance and no one else's. Pretty ironic too, that it goes on to call everyone it doesn't like racist (toward fictional space aliens I guess?) And people wanting to play as an explicit racist is deeply concerning. literally one post after making the sexist comment. Always amusing watching these smug types hoist themselves with their own petard.
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Post by gothpunkboy89 on May 3, 2021 16:09:25 GMT
Boy do I have egg on my face. Yes, yes you do. Your incivility is evidenced everytime you load unsaid words into other people's posts. You have been doing this for a long time, and somehow get a pass for what is really anti-social behavior. You instantiated "alpha male" here, and it is truly your instance and no one else's. Out of curiosity
What do these words and word choice mean to you? Because I have seen this sort of terminology a lot online. Always by people who subscribe to the "alpha" male ideology. Be it far right wing nut jobs to sad and pathetic incels that blame their own repugnant personalities on women.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2021 16:26:20 GMT
Yes, yes you do. Your incivility is evidenced everytime you load unsaid words into other people's posts. You have been doing this for a long time, and somehow get a pass for what is really anti-social behavior. You instantiated "alpha male" here, and it is truly your instance and no one else's. Out of curiosity
What do these words and word choice mean to you? Because I have seen this sort of terminology a lot online. Always by people who subscribe to the "alpha" male ideology. Be it far right wing nut jobs to sad and pathetic incels that blame their own repugnant personalities on women.
I separate modern connotation and simply rely on the actual meanings of the words used and the context they were used in. Inferring constantly is imverysmart material and I've never been that smart. When I assume people's context, it seems that I usually end up with egg on my face. The fact that Ryder can be a male or female, and is described exactly the same way regardless of gender, informs me that this is a gender-agnostic complaint and your concerns are based on contemporary hot-button subjects rather than the context of this discussion. In other words, leave YOUR real world politics at the door as much as possible, as they are rarely relevant to a discussion that has remained in-world.
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Post by 10k on May 3, 2021 16:41:18 GMT
Out of curiosity
What do these words and word choice mean to you? Because I have seen this sort of terminology a lot online. Always by people who subscribe to the "alpha" male ideology. Be it far right wing nut jobs to sad and pathetic incels that blame their own repugnant personalities on women.
I separate modern connotation and simply rely on the actual meanings of the words used and the context they were used in. Inferring constantly is imverysmart material and I've never been that smart. When I assume people's context, it seems that I usually end up with egg on my face. The fact that Ryder can be a male or female, and is described exactly the same way regardless of gender, informs me that this is a gender-agnostic complaint and your concerns are based on contemporary hot-button subjects rather than the context of this discussion. In other words, leave YOUR real world politics at the door as much as possible, as they are rarely relevant to a discussion that has remained in-world. Said it much better than I
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Post by Radec on May 3, 2021 16:54:26 GMT
Out of curiosity
What do these words and word choice mean to you? Because I have seen this sort of terminology a lot online. Always by people who subscribe to the "alpha" male ideology. Be it far right wing nut jobs to sad and pathetic incels that blame their own repugnant personalities on women.
I separate modern connotation and simply rely on the actual meanings of the words used and the context they were used in. Inferring constantly is imverysmart material and I've never been that smart. When I assume people's context, it seems that I usually end up with egg on my face. The fact that Ryder can be a male or female, and is described exactly the same way regardless of gender, informs me that this is a gender-agnostic complaint and your concerns are based on contemporary hot-button subjects rather than the context of this discussion. In other words, leave YOUR real world politics at the door as much as possible, as they are rarely relevant to a discussion that has remained in-world. This is the same dopey "you said civilized so you're clearly an age of sail era racist" nonsense from a while ago that got a bunch of that thing's troll posts deleted. You'd think it'd get more sophisticated in its strategies, not double down on failed ones.
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Post by smilesja on May 3, 2021 16:55:22 GMT
Andromeda is a better game than ME1.
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Post by 10k on May 3, 2021 16:56:02 GMT
Pretty ironic too, that it goes on to call everyone it doesn't like racist (toward fictional space aliens I guess?) I know. I've never understood why so many here get butt hurt when people here prefer the human race in a videogame. Why do I have to like the turians, asari, salarians etc... There's nothing interesting about them, and they're always trying to control what or what not the humans can do. I'm a human so I'm going to have more sympathy for the humans in the game.
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Post by alanc9 on May 3, 2021 17:17:06 GMT
Wait till the old players start talking about the ending once the game comes out. Can't wait. Got LOTS of popcorn! It's funny, because today I started watching ME3 ending analyst videos again and started to get angry again. OK, I gotta ask. Why do that?
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Post by mikaelnovasun on May 3, 2021 17:32:49 GMT
Andromeda is a better game than ME1. I can agree with you as far as exploration, and biotic combat are concerned. The rest of it not so much. Edit: Thought of another, it had a better inventory system then ME1. I hated that on PC, selling and destroying items took forever with keyboard and mouse.
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Post by Radec on May 3, 2021 17:33:18 GMT
Pretty ironic too, that it goes on to call everyone it doesn't like racist (toward fictional space aliens I guess?) I know. I've never understood why so many here get butt hurt when people here prefer the human race in a videogame. Why do I have to like the turians, asari, salarians etc... There's nothing interesting about them, and they're always trying to control what or what not the humans can do. I'm a human so I'm going to have more sympathy for the humans in the game. These takes always come off as projection to me. The setting doesn't portray the pro human position as a racist one, sans perhaps the Terra Firma party (which also pro human Ashley Williams calls out for being such). Also Cerberus is RayCis, but half your crew in ME2 is aliens. Sure You usually hear this from pro-Council type players. Funny I don't see the Cerberus AI calling the other aliens "lesser species" but sure, they're the racists
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Post by 10k on May 3, 2021 17:35:50 GMT
It's funny, because today I started watching ME3 ending analyst videos again and started to get angry again. OK, I gotta ask. Why do that? Well I am a little hyped about getting to play the series again. So I begain watching little things like saving Jack from purgatory and meeting up with garrus in ME 2. But because the recommended section on youtube acts like a wormhole about 1 hour later there I was watching some random youtuber talk about the ending lol. And by the end I watched 3 videos about the ending.
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Post by smilesja on May 3, 2021 17:49:20 GMT
This obsession with needing to play an "alpha male" is hilariously sad. Nobody said anything about "alpha" or "male", so if you're ascribing strength of character to those types of things (and by extension weakness to the opposite) well....more a projection of your own problems. I dont actually care if someone desires to play a weak, incompetent and feckless character in a leadership position. It doesn't make much sense based on the rules of our world, but then this is just an escapist fantasy. You do you. Problem is that for Shepard that personality type was one of many options, for Ryder it's the only option. This is regression from a roleplay perspective. Bio needs to do better. But Ryder was anything but weak and ineffectual.
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